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I want kingshero rom..but i hear running Hero Rom on G1 is kind of slow and laggy....What is the best Rom out and how can I get a hold of it and how can I install it???

Define "Best rom" please. The fastest one? The best one for gaming? The best one for social integration? The one with most features? The prettiest one? The best one for me? The best one for you? You see where I'm going with this?
You have so many tools at your hands: Nandroid backup, BART back-up, switch-rom, why don't you try all of the roms and pick YOUR best rom. Remember, search button is your friend.

borodin1 said:
Define "Best rom" please. The fastest one? The best one for gaming? The best one for social integration? The one with most features? The prettiest one? The best one for me? The best one for you? You see where I'm going with this?
You have so many tools at your hands: Nandroid backup, BART back-up, switch-rom, why don't you try all of the roms and pick YOUR best rom. Remember, search button is your friend.
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This is such a solid explanation of "what's the best rom" thread, it should be stickied.

people should stop making these threads..I mean when you think about it, what in the world is the point of a search engine?!
@OP I'm sure you will find a few good 1000 threads on "Best ROM" but if you are feeling adventurous then do some Studying yourself. that way You will know what the best ROMs are.
just a suggestion though

Why do "Best Rom" threads bother everyone so much? You could just ignore them, you know. I'm sure there are folks who would love to give an opinion. If there's not, then the thread would quickly die.
I read them just to see how fast someone replies
A. Try them all and see for yourself.
B. Use the search button.
C. There is no Best Rom.
or D. Please close this thread.
In any case, everyone has different reasons for reading a thread. Just ignore the ones you're not interested in and everyone can be happy.

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Why do "Best Rom" threads bother everyone so much?
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Because 10 "Best Rom" threads every week make it harder for people who actually search for answers.
Because there will be as many opinions as there are roms.
Because if someone does not reply this way, OP will just proceed to ask all of the "usual" questions (that have been answered multiple times) without a thought to search first.
Do we need any more reasons?

the best rom is cyanogen mod
if you cant do your own research flash that rom and dont use anything else
because like everyone said
there is no best
they are all good for something
you will find your fav rom when you try them all like we all have - and guess what
diff people for diff roms

borodin1 said:
Because 10 "Best Rom" threads every week make it harder for people who actually search for answers.
Because there will be as many opinions as there are roms.
Because if someone does not reply this way, OP will just proceed to ask all of the "usual" questions (that have been answered multiple times) without a thought to search first.
Do we need any more reasons?
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Those reasons are only valid if the pool of ROMS is static. Since new ones are released frequently, any previous opinions are probably outdated.
Yes there are many opinions. But, that's exactly what this question is looking for. I see these opinions as mini reviews. It gives a chance to explain what you like about a ROM. Maybe I'll see a comment that points out something I had not thought of as important.

I like Sonic 2 or Super Mario 3, there are some of ther good ones out their, but I always find myself going back to one of those two when I am bored.

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I like Sonic 2 or Super Mario 3, there are some of ther good ones out their, but I always find myself going back to one of those two when I am bored.
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I see what you did there

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I see what you did there
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lol did you just join so you could say that? xD

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taino887 said:
I would like to install the KiNgxKxKlair DroidEris2G1 v0.1 on my g1....I am not sure of the steps to install it though.....Please can someone help me with a step by step tutorial on how to get kings rom....PLEASE!!!!
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about 30 min before opening this thread. Any more questions?

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I don't understand your point. The guy's asking for help. This is a Q&A section, right?

taino887 said:
I want kingshero rom..but i hear running Hero Rom on G1 is kind of slow and laggy....What is the best Rom out and how can I get a hold of it and how can I install it???
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If you guys actually read my post in its entirety you guys would realize that I did not just ask what is the best rom....I stated what i wanted and I also sated that i heard its slow and laggy....All I wanted was feedback about the HERO ROM....I said i wanted a HERO ROM....what is the best HERO ROM.....and i also asked how to get a hold of it...Also if you look at the amount of posts that I have put up, you can see I am new to this...But if I did not make myself clear....I WANT A HERO ROM.....but i hear runnign a HERO ROM on g1 is slow and laggy....WHAT IS THE BEST ROM(HERO).......SORRY IF I DIDNT MAKE MYSELF CLEAR....people in my other post helped me out greatly

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Please note how the same user posted
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CAN YOU GO ONE DAY WITHOUT GOING INTO THE Q&A SECTION AND GETTING BUTTHURT BECAUSE N00BIES BRING THERE QUESTIONS AND IF YOU DONT LIKE THE BEST ROM QUESTIONS SIMPLY STAY AWAY FROM THEM. PEOPLE WHO DO NOTHING BETTER THAN JUDGE DUE TO THEIR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE AND COMMON SENSE BUG ME AND CONGRATULATIONS YOUR NUMBER ONE ON THIS FORUMS LIST

borodin1 said:
Because 10 "Best Rom" threads every week make it harder for people who actually search for answers.
Because there will be as many opinions as there are roms.
Because if someone does not reply this way, OP will just proceed to ask all of the "usual" questions (that have been answered multiple times) without a thought to search first.
Do we need any more reasons?
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I agree with this.
tdusen said:
Those reasons are only valid if the pool of ROMS is static. Since new ones are released frequently, any previous opinions are probably outdated.
Yes there are many opinions. But, that's exactly what this question is looking for. I see these opinions as mini reviews. It gives a chance to explain what you like about a ROM. Maybe I'll see a comment that points out something I had not thought of as important.
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New ROMs come out often, yes. However, that doesn't make all previous opinions "out-dated." The only ROM I've noted a significant difference in is Cyanogenmod. Used to always be kinda laggy (never too buggy) and with newest update it really flies. Other than that - most ROM "updates" are mainly just fixing minor bugs/adding some other random feature. Except for eclair ROMs, those are the only ROMs that are getting closer and closer to being "complete." Just because a ROM is the newest ROM released does not in any way mean it is now the best ROM out there.
As for best Hero ROM - none. They're too slow, and not really THAT great. That's just my opinion, though.
One more thing: ROMs are all based on YOUR opinion. These threads irritate me beyond measure. Its like when I ask my fiancee what she wants for dinner and she responds, "I don't care, anything sounds good." I say, "Ok, how about a steak?" to which she responds "I'm not in the mood for steak." I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT YOU LIKE! YOU CAN'T TELL ANYONE ELSE WHAT THEY LIKE! PEOPLE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES! The only possible thing this thread is able of achieving is a suggestion - which EVERY other thread like this has.
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CAN YOU GO ONE DAY WITHOUT GOING INTO THE Q&A SECTION AND GETTING BUTTHURT BECAUSE N00BIES BRING THERE QUESTIONS AND IF YOU DONT LIKE THE BEST ROM QUESTIONS SIMPLY STAY AWAY FROM THEM. PEOPLE WHO DO NOTHING BETTER THAN JUDGE DUE TO THEIR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE AND COMMON SENSE BUG ME AND CONGRATULATIONS YOUR NUMBER ONE ON THIS FORUMS LIST
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Oh
dear
god.
Did you seriously just say "due to their lack of knowledge and common sense"? You do understand that you post was equivalent to a newborn throwing up, right? I'm sorry, but if you're going to attack someone for their lack of knowledge, then you're going to have at least show your own. What he said has a very good point. There are too many threads like that that NEVER offer an answer. Only suggestions, and guess what? THE SUGGESTIONS ARE ALWAYS THE SAME. Pointed that out earlier in my post but I see it needs to be reiterated for you.
Oh, forgot to point out: It's "their" not "there". There is a place. Their is a group of people. You need a comma before "and" because everything after it is a full functioning sentence. Need/could use a comma before simply. You need to show a pause, other way that just sounds like a run-on sentence. "...common sense bug me" should be the end of the sentence. If you do not want to end the sentence there, you need to drop "and" and add a semi-colon before "congratulations." "Your" should be "you're." Actually... you are is more formal, but this is not a formal essay so it is acceptable your way. "Forums" needs to be "forum's" to show possession. You need punctuation at the end of your last sentence as well. Last thing: you do know you are only supposed to capitalize the first letter of a sentence, right?
taino887 said:
If you guys actually read my post in its entirety you guys would realize that I did not just ask what is the best rom....I stated what i wanted and I also sated that i heard its slow and laggy....All I wanted was feedback about the HERO ROM....I said i wanted a HERO ROM....what is the best HERO ROM.....and i also asked how to get a hold of it...Also if you look at the amount of posts that I have put up, you can see I am new to this...But if I did not make myself clear....I WANT A HERO ROM.....but i hear runnign a HERO ROM on g1 is slow and laggy....WHAT IS THE BEST ROM(HERO).......SORRY IF I DIDNT MAKE MYSELF CLEAR....people in my other post helped me out greatly
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Your original post does not state, in any form, that you want a Hero ROM. We are trying to help. What you don't understand is how we are helping. If none of us use search, I'm almost positive anyone here who can help will leave because of the massive amount of threads/posts that will be utterly pointless. I promise, searching is not hard and usually returns fantastic results. I understand you are new. If you want a good starting ROM - go with Cyanogen. Easy to flash, easy to update, great community support, a full fledged wiki with step by step directions, and the best feature: doesn't need Danger SPL as most hero ROMs do. Danger SPL has caused the most dead phones than any other issue. That's my suggestion.

What's your opinions?

G1 Owners, what are your favorite ROMs to use, and why? Interested in what people think.

Ninjineer said:
G1 Owners, what are your favorite ROMs to use, and why? Interested in what people think.
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Wow! What an open ended question.
Reference
Three cupcake roms
Fourteen Donut roms
Fourteen Eclair roms
Twelve Hero/SenseUI roms (with 1.5 - Donut)
Ten Hero/SenseUI roms with (2.1 - Eclair)
Three Blur roms (with 1.5 - Donut)
So we have a total of (pulling up calculator app) 56 different roms. And what was the question you were asking? Oh yeah... which one is our favorite? What kind of answer are you expecting? Do you want speed? Stability? Working bluetooth? Working Wi-Fi? Required DeathSPL? Required sdcard partitioning? Asking such a question is going to give you mixed results with very biased opinions. My advice is to first flash Amon_Ra's recovery, use nandroid to backup what you have and try some out for yourself. Make sure that you read the requirements for each rom first. I seriously doubt that anyone has tried all 50+ roms so any answer that you receive from such a question is going to be very biased. If you want my opinion though and I'm assuming that you do I suggest using a rom made by Cyanogen. Which one depends on your setup. If you want to run a fairly stable Eclair rom you can try test2 but be warned that it requires the DeathSPL which has been known to brick phones. Most Hero/SenseUI roms(with the exception of Micro Hero (1.5 - Donut)) require the DeathSPL rom as well and I believe that all 2.0 and 2.1 - Eclair roms require it too. However note that most Hero roms don't have working bluetooth on the G1. So you have a great user interface but you sacrifice a little bit of sdcard space and a working bluetooth connection. Plus the risk of bricking your phone is a turnoff for some newbies. So if you don't want to risk bricking your phone and have a hard time following instructions then I would skip that particular SPL and stick with that one that you have (assuming that you don't already have it of course.)
Now some roms require a properly partitioned SD card. That is FAT/ext 2/3 or 4/Swap. This is most Hero/SenseUI roms. Some may require ext3 while others may require something different. So again... you'll have to read up on the requirements and experiment for yourself.
You don't want to flash the Danger SPL and don't feel like reformating your SDCARD with separate partitions? Well... looks like your stuck with very few options. Less than half if I calculated accurately. So I guess it boils down to what you have now, what you are willing to do to experiment, what you want in regards to functionality versus stability.
Good luck.

He wants to know which one YOU like. He's not asking for a suggestion. He's not asking for links to ones. He's not asking which one is fastest. He's not asking which one is most stable. He's not asking how to do it. He's not asking where to get them.
You had a very good start:
which one is our favorite?
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then you went to this:
What kind of answer are you expecting? Do you want speed? Stability? Working bluetooth? Working Wi-Fi? Required DeathSPL? Required sdcard partitioning? Asking such a question is going to give you mixed results with very biased opinions.
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Wtf? He wants to know what you like and why. Not what every ROM does and which is the best. Not trying to be a ass about it. Sorry if I came off as such. That just blew my mind.
My favorite ROM? Dr. Cloverdale's Eclair/Donut. I've been having problems with the Eclair, so I'm sitting with donut for now. And I like it because it's got all the goodness of cyanogen but a smexified theme.

r3s-rt said:
He wants to know which one YOU like. He's not asking for a suggestion. He's not asking for links to ones. He's not asking which one is fastest. He's not asking which one is most stable. He's not asking how to do it. He's not asking where to get them.
You had a very good start:
then you went to this:
Wtf? He wants to know what you like and why. Not what every ROM does and which is the best. Not trying to be a ass about it. Sorry if I came off as such. That just blew my mind.
My favorite ROM? Dr. Cloverdale's Eclair/Donut. I've been having problems with the Eclair, so I'm sitting with donut for now. And I like it because it's got all the goodness of cyanogen but a smexified theme.
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My point to this is that what is your favorite is not necessarily going to be mine. I prefer Cyanogen's rom, but clearly your preference differs. Which is exactly my point. And all this is going to mean absolutely nothing to him unless he actually tries them for himself. So how can one measure the best rom? Doesn't everybody have different taste? Doesn't everybody run different amount of screen with a variety of apps and widgets? No one is the same so asking for "the best" or even "What do you use?" is actually kind of a rhetorical question because in the end it's up to him to try the ones that interest him and all of our comments and suggestions mean nothing. What if everyone replies "Use Cyanogen's 5.0.7 rom" and the OP doesn't have the DangerSPL and doesn't want to risk bricking his device? What if he uses Wi-Fi and bluetooth constantly? What if he just has a 512mb class 2 sdcard? Does he want a large variety of themes or is he comfortable with the stock look?
Since we don't know how can we really give proper input? And you don't need to look far to know what other people use. Just look at the Development thread. The thread with the most input should tell you something right there. I honestly wouldn't trust a rom that has been out for a a couple months with no updates and only a couple pages of replies. However commonly used roms such as Cyanogen's, MLIGNS, bbuchacher, HTCCLay, dwang, manup456, KiNgxKxlicK, etc all have reputations of being very good roms. Some are great for eye candy, some are great for stability, others for speed.
Indeed he asked for our opinion and what we use... but the fact of the matter is that new roms are released/updated almost daily. So to suggest one today may not be a fair suggestion tomorrow. And if the OP just wants to know what we use and doesn't like suggestions... then this post is kind of useless in my opinion because that's all he's going to get.

Binary100100 said:
My point to this is that what is your favorite is not necessarily going to be mine.
... And if the OP just wants to know what we use and doesn't like suggestions... then this post is kind of useless in my opinion because that's all he's going to get.
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I am so with Binary100100 on this one. I see at least 1-2 new "favorite" or "best" rom threads every day. I think that starting thread like that should grounds for an instant ban.

Interested in what people think.
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The OP is asking what your favorite ROM is and why. He's not asking what to use OR a suggestion!
I'm going to break this down nice and easy.
]My point to this is that what is your favorite is not necessarily going to be mine.
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THAT'S WHY HE'S ASKING FOR YOUR FAVORITE, NOT MINE OR WHAT HIS SHOULD BE!
I prefer Cyanogen's rom, but clearly your preference differs. Which is exactly my point.
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Which is exactly why your post partially lacks meaning. OP wants to know everyone's favorite. Each individual users favorite. Get it?
And all this is going to mean absolutely nothing to him unless he actually tries them for himself.
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Wtf? He's just asking what your favorite ROM is. He probably has his own favorite.
So how can one measure the best rom? Doesn't everybody have different taste? Doesn't everybody run different amount of screen with a variety of apps and widgets? No one is the same so asking for "the best" or even "What do you use?" is actually kind of a rhetorical question because in the end it's up to him to try the ones that interest him and all of our comments and suggestions mean nothing.
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HE NEVER ASKED FOR BEST! He asked for YOUR FAVORITE!
"What do you use?" Is not a rhetorical question at all. I use cyanogenmod. It's simple as that.
Since we don't know how can we really give proper input?
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Wtf? You don't know what your favorite ROM is? How, bro?
And you don't need to look far to know what other people use. Just look at the Development thread. The thread with the most input should tell you something right there.
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This is true. =] This actually shows that this thread is somewhat pointless.
Indeed he asked for our opinion and what we use... but the fact of the matter is that new roms are released/updated almost daily. So to suggest one today may not be a fair suggestion tomorrow. And if the OP just wants to know what we use and doesn't like suggestions... then this post is kind of useless in my opinion because that's all he's going to get.
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This is true. BUT THIS IS WHAT HE WANTS! Useless or not, the whole point is that he never even mentioned a suggestion or close to it.
borodin1 said:
I am so with Binary100100 on this one. I see at least 1-2 new "favorite" or "best" rom threads every day. I think that starting thread like that should grounds for an instant ban.
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I'm with borodin that new ROMs come almost everyday, but narrow it down to a branch or two. You really generally have 1 or 2 favorite branches. Mine is cyanogenmod and Dr. Cloverdale's (which is just cyanogenmod). So my favorite ROM is cyanogen. Sure today it's test3 and in a week it will be test4, but that won't change the fact that cyanogenmod is still made by cyanogen. Either way, I'll still use cyanogen.
This would be better in General. This isn't exactly a Q&A. Would that have made it better for both of you?
I mean seriously, when your friend asks you what your favorite soda is, do you sit there and try to explain to him that what what you like isn't going to apply to him because he might like a small amount of sugar and you like a lot of sugar?

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The OP is asking what your favorite ROM is and why. He's not asking what to use OR a suggestion!
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Exactly. It's just a fun, curiosity thread. I'm curious where the trends are going. Why all the angst and hatred? You don't want me going to another thread with tales of bigotry and all-around asshattery, do you?
Don't get your blood pressure up over it, I'm just simply curious how people prioritize, expanding my horizons.
Didn't expect to have to kick off my own thread, but here goes. I like the new version of Cyanogen. It's fast, as stable as I can tell, no force crashes in my experience, and my battery doesn't really drain any worse than it did before.
Hehe, this thread might as well have asked "Who are the high strung a holes around this forum?" because that's the answer I got.
I am sorry if this was misplaced. I'm still getting used to the organization of this forum, being a new member and all, just trying to soak up as much information as I can from others. The ones that are generous enough to allow it, that is.

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Exactly. It's just a fun, curiosity thread. I'm curious where the trends are going. Why all the angst and hatred? You don't want me going to another thread with tales of bigotry and all-around asshattery, do you?
Don't get your blood pressure up over it, I'm just simply curious how people prioritize, expanding my horizons.
Didn't expect to have to kick off my own thread, but here goes. I like the new version of Cyanogen. It's fast, as stable as I can tell, no force crashes in my experience, and my battery doesn't really drain any worse than it did before.
Hehe, this thread might as well have asked "Who are the high strung a holes around this forum?" because that's the answer I got.
I am sorry if this was misplaced. I'm still getting used to the organization of this forum, being a new member and all, just trying to soak up as much information as I can from others. The ones that are generous enough to allow it, that is.
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This PROBABLY would have fit better in General, but here isn't as bad as nubs flooding the Android Development section with questions. Plus, you're new. All forums are different with the way that the consider sub-forums should be used. It's all in experience.
I agree, when I first read I was like, wtf? Did they even read the TITLE or just click and post?
My favorite is cyanogenmod as well (now). I honestly like the donut more, though. Donut just seems to be more snappy and stable and ANY Eclair. Maybe Eclair will eventually evolve, which I believe it will, and then it will be an everydayer, but I don't see that as of now.

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This PROBABLY would have fit better in General, but here isn't as bad as nubs flooding the Android Development section with questions. Plus, you're new. All forums are different with the way that the consider sub-forums should be used. It's all in experience.
I agree, when I first read I was like, wtf? Did they even read the TITLE or just click and post?
My favorite is cyanogenmod as well (now). I honestly like the donut more, though. Donut just seems to be more snappy and stable and ANY Eclair. Maybe Eclair will eventually evolve, which I believe it will, and then it will be an everydayer, but I don't see that as of now.
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Yeah, it does get a little old maintaining a test/experimental build if I don't have time to live in my PC chair.

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Yeah, it does get a little old maintaining a test/experimental build if I don't have time to live in my PC chair.
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Very true. Once it's stable it will be awesome, though.

[Q] Which Roms are prepared by professionals? Everyone makes roms.

I really want to know this. How to these Roms prepared? If i take ficetos JVP CWM rom and add lets say modded camera, modded sms,modded other apk files to it. Choose a theme, choose one of those kernels,choose a free launcher, use darkys or juwe ram script. Add a fex wallpapers and name this Galaxied Gingerleylo Rom V.1
Who are really cooking roms, who are making roms like i told above?

This is unprofessional... The good roms are not built that way... See the supercurious voodoo for example... He did from scratch he ifs hero in samsung galaxy
But it takes time and people don't have time
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With respect what you are describing is just someone customizing their phone, that is not a rom, and to even think of publishing it is wrong!
Insanity cm 014/glitch

Everyone can make what you said, but only a few can actually write/modify the code for a kernel or rom (sammy example). Also modifing an apk/xml is not the same as writing code for a kernel.

miui rom ,cyanogenmod,insanity rom,darkys rom, ofcourse best of 2 miui and cyanogenmod for sgs

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Who are really cooking roms, who are making roms like i told above?
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Silly boy....ROMs are made by friendly trolls, and coded using Android, love and less than 1% animal byproducts as permitted by law. We ALL know that.
Do you make a habit of posting threads that mistake aggressive provocations as legitimate questions?

Actually, although it may have been seen as provocative, I understand his concern. Afterall, when you flash a rom you're entrusting your phone to whoever cooked it, and it's impossible to know if there's something unpleasant in there.
Clearly, the most popular roms are being used by enough people that surely someone would notice if it was transmitting personal data, or passwords or something... There's nothing wrong with asking questions rather than accepting blindly.

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Silly boy....ROMs are made by friendly trolls, and coded using Android, love and less than 1% animal byproducts as permitted by law. We ALL know that.
Do you make a habit of posting threads that mistake aggressive provocations as legitimate questions?
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Isn't he allowed to ask?!?

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Isn't he allowed to ask?!?
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I understand a desire to know, but then why not ask in the specific threads he is interested in? Perhaps it is partly born out of his poor English, but phrased and placed the way it was his post was more challange than query....which I am quite sure was how he meant it to be.
People who create mods and kernels are not paid employees or people he is paying for a service. They are volunteers and hobbyists who are sharing what they make. Noone has the right to demand anyone's "credentials' here, beyond the sources and details of their ROM. Some will be great, some will be pretty lousy...but a little caution and reading of threads will usually seperate the wheat from the chaff.
As for his demand to know "who" these people are...if someone said they were just a geek in their mom's basement or an off duty porn star coding android kernels on the side for fun, would he then be better informed about their ROM?
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an off duty porn star coding android kernels on the side for fun, would he then be better informed about their ROM?
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now that's a rom i would use!!

official roms or stock rom - made by professionals (i hope so)

yken said:
I really want to know this. How to these Roms prepared? If i take ficetos JVP CWM rom and add lets say modded camera, modded sms,modded other apk files to it. Choose a theme, choose one of those kernels,choose a free launcher, use darkys or juwe ram script. Add a fex wallpapers and name this Galaxied Gingerleylo Rom V.1
Who are really cooking roms, who are making roms like i told above?
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I think it is a mixture of everything. Some people take the stock code, add some stuff that is beneficial and publish it as their mod. Some other people may take this modded ROM, add some more stuff that they believe is beneficial and publish it as their mod. Atleast, thats what I believe. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
I'm not very sure about the "professional" ones, but CyanogenMOD and Darky's ROM are used by a lot of people. I'm a noob to this scene, so I dont know about others. But there are certainly a lot of mods floating around.
BTW, there should be "like" button on this forum. Some comments are very witty.

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BTW, there should be "like" button on this forum. Some comments are very witty.
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Most people use the Thanks button for that...though I agree having a like button as well would be nice.
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@rschenck: you are right. If he had read some dev-threads he would know more about it. But not everybody is interested in details. So I think he may ask this question.
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Some_sense_pro_v1

The Missing Rom, Sense 1, 2,3 are more than just HTC's UI. They are the way we Interact with our Incredible. As i write this There are Dev's and Dev teams making great strides on what they feel will be the greatest ROM. I have spent many years working on car project only to find that I am never happy with it. A good projects are never finished. With all the Sense rom's you get flavors of sense. With the senseless roms you get no Sense. With this rom you get some Sense and Launcher Pro. I have removed everything that doesn't work with Launcher Pro.
This is my first shot at a Rom, I plan to continue learning and devolving.
Sense widgets gone
Battery draining apps gone
Rom zip file is less than 110 MB
Sense clock and calander still there
camera works
If you want apps install them, the market is full.
Thanks to Jakresge, and every Dev. on this site.
http://db.tt/dwaOmCn
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reserved.............

I am a bit confused as to what this is?

Sense 1, rose removed, launcher pro added, Rom
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tjamscad said:
Sense 1, rose removed, launcher pro added, Rom
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...That's it?
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solarpolitiks said:
...That's it?
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Yes, it works
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Hmmmm...
¦*¦HYBRID¦*¦SPEED¦*¦ by ws83

I request to have this thread removed. No offense to the OP - but adding a different launcher and some other minor tweaks does not justify a ROM.
Thank you for your creativity and time spent on your project though.

Lmao ill try it..why not? Maybe its good you never know
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tincbtrar said:
I request to have this thread removed. No offense to the OP - but adding a different launcher and some other minor tweaks does not justify a ROM.
Thank you for your creativity and time spent on your project though.
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What does
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Give it a chance guys. What have all sense 1 roms done? Changed little from stock? Exactly.
Youre looking at a crackflashing troll with ORD

No offense either bud. Its just... well... how exactly did you create "your ROM" on your phone?
Did you do a nand and then expect people to flash your back-up?
I don't understand what your doing or why. Normally ROM development takes place on a computer with some knowledge of how things work in these ROMs so we can make them better. And to make them more appealing to the other users of these forums or whoever.
Simply installing Launcher Pro or whatever else does not meen you have created a ROM. You have just installed Launcher Pro to a ROM, that is all.
However, if you would like to get into "real" ROM development there are a many valuable tools and resources in theses very forums to help you get started. Not to mention the devs that roam around here as well that would more than likely be willing to pull you to the side and help you out, provided you just ask them.
I want you to pay attention to this next part ok? The name of this website is called xda- wait for it... wait for it... "DEVELOPERS" yup, xda-developers. Not xda-I installed launcher pro to some craptastic ROM and I expect people to actually use it.com
Until then friend, maybe you should try something else.
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watt9493 said:
Give it a chance guys. What have all sense 1 roms done? Changed little from stock? Exactly.
Youre looking at a crackflashing troll with ORD
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It's not just that but if you remove rosie, why not all HTC widgets, etc?
This is literally deleting one APK and pasting another in its place.

wildstang83 said:
No offense either bud. Its just... well... how exactly did you create "your ROM" on your phone?
Did you do a nand and then expect people to flash your back-up?
I don't understand what your doing or why. Normally ROM development takes place on a computer with some knowledge of how things work in these ROMs so we can make them better. And to make them more appealing to the other users of these forums or whoever.
Simply installing Launcher Pro or whatever else does not meen you have created a ROM. You have just installed Launcher Pro to a ROM, that is all.
However, if you would like to get into "real" ROM development there are a many valuable tools and resources in theses very forums to help you get started. Not to mention the devs that roam around here as well that would more than likely be willing to pull you to the side and help you out, provided you just ask them.
I want you to pay attention to this next part ok? The name of this website is called xda- wait for it... wait for it... "DEVELOPERS" yup, xda-developers. Not xda-I installed launcher pro to some craptastic ROM and I expect people to actually use it.com
Until then friend, maybe you should try something else.
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A little harsh but funny. Gotta give the guy props for having the balls to post it. I myself made many kitchen built ROMs for personal use and never dared post them. Appears to me that many of the custom ROMSs here are just kitchen builds so what one more?

kzoodroid said:
Appears to me that many of the custom ROMSs here are just kitchen builds so what one more?
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Actually no. No offense bud but I don't think any of the seasoned devs on here use the kitchen to "build" a ROM. All the devs I work with manually port our ROMs peice by peice. Less error in the long run. The only reason I have ever used the kitchen is to deodex, zipalign and sign. I don't even hardly use it for that anymore. 9 times out of 10 the kitchen is not capable of doing the things that we do to our ROMs.
Never ment to crush dreams or whatever with my first response, I just think if we are going to do something that makes changes to or effects other peoples devices we should take the time and do it right.

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Actually no. No offense bud but I don't think any of the seasoned devs on here use the kitchen to "build" a ROM. All the devs I work with manually port our ROMs peice by peice. Less error in the long run. The only reason I have ever used the kitchen is to deodex, zipalign and sign. I don't even hardly use it for that anymore. 9 times out of 10 the kitchen is not capable of doing the things that we do to our ROMs.
Never ment to crush dreams or whatever with my first response, I just think if we are going to do something that makes changes to or effects other peoples devices we should take the time and do it right.
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Does that mean you didn't flash it? We all start somewhere. I did not mean to insult anyone. But there is a gap in the Rom selections. I like some of the sense apps that you lose when going senseless. I also don't like the button layout of sense. And the battery draining sense widgets. That is what I have done filled a hole
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wildstang83 said:
Actually no. No offense bud but I don't think any of the seasoned devs on here use the kitchen to "build" a ROM. All the devs I work with manually port our ROMs peice by peice. Less error in the long run. The only reason I have ever used the kitchen is to deodex, zipalign and sign. I don't even hardly use it for that anymore. 9 times out of 10 the kitchen is not capable of doing the things that we do to our ROMs.
Never ment to crush dreams or whatever with my first response, I just think if we are going to do something that makes changes to or effects other peoples devices we should take the time and do it right.
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Good to know that your building your own ROMs. Its hard to tell from all thats posted who to trust as a dev and who's just a hack. No offense to the op. CaptainKrtek had a post in the Eris forum last year about what it takes to be a real dev here, wish I could find it again had some good info in it.

I will update my op I was more/less saying that I am new to this kinda thing and don't call myself a developer like a nurse doesn't call themselves Doctor, or a drafter doesn't call themselves an engineer.
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kzoodroid said:
Good to know that your building your own ROMs. Its hard to tell from all thats posted who to trust as a dev and who's just a hack. No offense to the op. CaptainKrtek had a post in the Eris forum last year about what it takes to be a real dev here, wish I could find it again had some good info in it.
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This thread? Second post....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1121585

tjamscad said:
I will update my op I was more/less saying that I am new to this kinda thing and don't call myself a developer like a nurse doesn't call themselves Doctor, or a drafter doesn't call themselves an engineer.
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If you really want to be a dev then start hanging out in chef central. The advice I had originally said came form captainkrtek actually was from cyanogen. I read it over a year ago when I was playing with dsixda's kitchen and thought of posting my own ROM. I posted a link below as I think its appropriate. Not sure why our dev section here isn't as nice as the Eris forum, they have a lot more info over there and being a former Eris owner I miss it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298

[Q] Which is the best rom for the cappy?

I'm starting this post as a guide for people trying new roms, I thought of asking which rom are you using right now, but that would be a popularity contest.
I've been an android user for a while, but I'm new with the cappy, as a new owner, I didn't know which rom is the best rom around, so far I've tried at least 5 (firefly, darky, apex, stock 2.1, stock 2.2) But I don't wanna say which one I'm using right now cause I don't wanna influence the results of this post.
So, I'm Gonna post all roms I've see and ask the users what you think, please, after voting, talk about your experiences with the roms you've been using, I feel this could help choosing a rom for every new owner.
If I'm leaving a rom out, please let me know and I'll post it.
If you are a developer and you don't wanna see your rom here, please let me know via PM it and I'll remove it.
Alright, I've tried to edit the poll but as it turns out, only moderators can edit polls, so, please, I'll try to contact a moderator to include other roms in the poll, but I don't wanna bug a moderator for every single rom, so, If you guys be so kind, which other roms would you like to see here?
So far I only have one suggestion from xhozt to add victory, I would like to add at least other 5 roms. Suggestions?

This is a bad idea. First off its a matter of opinion and secondly all the dev work hard on their roms, how is it fair to say one is better than the other?

prbassplayer said:
This is a bad idea. First off its a matter of opinion and secondly all the dev work hard on their roms, how is it fair to say one is better than the other?
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Yes, as choosing a phone its a matter of opinion, and yes, not all roms work the same and they don't have the same performance, are you implying cause they are working hard on their roms they shouldn't be rated?
What you are saying its like saying movies shouldn't be rated cause people work on them.
We should have an honest poll an opinion for guidence, this shouldn't mean we are disregarding other people works, I support all developers, but as a person, I believe some roms I've tried are better than others. The posts I've seen have not helped me making a decision on a particular rom, so far all have been trial an error. Not every rom is perfect, but some are better than others.
On a final note, Its just a poll, I'm just asking people around, if this polls were more extensive, I would ask more questions as memory managment, multitasking performace, etc. But I can only ask one question.

Lol thats different. We are talking about community dev's spending their part time working on projects. Don't know you shouldn't compare or rate.

luishawk said:
I'm starting this post as a guide for people trying new roms, I thought of asking which rom are you using right now, but that would be a popularity contest.
I've been an android user for a while, but I'm new with the cappy, as a new owner, I didn't know which rom is the best rom around, so far I've tried at least 5 (firefly, darky, apex, stock 2.1, stock 2.2) But I don't wanna say which one I'm using right now cause I don't wanna influence the results of this post.
So, I'm Gonna post all roms I've see and ask the users what you think, please, after voting, talk about your experiences with the roms you've been using, I feel this could help choosing a rom for every new owner.
If I'm leaving a rom out, please let me know and I'll post it.
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can we get victory added ?

xhozt said:
can we get victory added ?
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Sure thing buddy, I'm trying to edit the poll but I cant find where is that option

It is a bad idea only because it has been tried before and failed. Best rom threads are locked because every user has differences in what they like, as well as how their phone reacts to the rom. A search next time could show how many of these threads, including the last rom poll are locked.
Just so you know, you can't edit the poll once it has been created.
Glitch kernel let me OC to 1.4!

prbassplayer said:
Lol thats different. We are talking about community dev's spending their part time working on projects. Don't know you shouldn't compare or rate.
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I still believe work can be rated, but I'm not rating individual works, Im asking for people's opinion, if a developer has something to say about it, and want their rom removed, I would gladly remove it. I won't do it cause you don't think is right, this is a free site last time a checked.

Another one of these??
No thanks. Closed.