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So I just recently (a few months ago) figured out what rooting was and what you were capable of after doing so, and I have a new found love for my G1. However, I still want something new, because device-wise, I want something thinner. The G1 just isn't cutting it for me anymore.
I am looking into the Behold 2 and thinking about getting it tomorrow. Does anyone know if this phone is going to be an easy phone to root? I don't like what Samsung did to the UI (i.e., the "cube" and the QuickAccess buttons along the bottom that are ALWAYS there, taking up screen space) and figured, it would be an awesome phone if I was able to root it and put a new ROM on there.
Any info back on this would be greatly appreciated guys!
Thank you!
um no. The behold runs it's own OS. No way to ever put anything android on it, let alone "root" it. I don't even think samsung does updates on their own OSs. What you get is what you're going to have until you switch to a far superior phone.. like say the G1 also Android has some pretty slim phone coming out in the near future, are you under some sort of time restraint?
http://theunlockr.com/2009/11/18/how-to-root-your-samsung-behold-2-samsung-galaxy-in-one-click/
You might want to search more up on rooting the behold 2, I just googled that and it was the first thing i found.
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um no. The behold runs it's own OS. No way to ever put anything android on it, let alone "root" it. I don't even think samsung does updates on their own OSs. What you get is what you're going to have until you switch to a far superior phone.. like say the G1 also Android has some pretty slim phone coming out in the near future, are you under some sort of time restraint?
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The Behold II is running Android, it's just customized like the Sense UI on the Hero.
dam it's going to be hard to get this shoe out of my mouth lol :O you know it's getting late when you fail @ google
nice save Anartic.
edit: and some of the "other" devices i spoke of pdadb.net / android 1.6 devices and of course the behold II is listed heh
If I were you, I would try and hold off a bit... lots of good ones coming out/already out that will be more customizable than that. Stick to HTC devices, since in turn you will have this community. As well, you will have far superior quality and reliability in the long run. Samsung makes some good phones, but you lose this community.
i know next year there will probably be some good devices coming out, but i don't want to wait. that's the problem. and even so, i have many friends who work in t-mobile retail stores so i always get the discount even if i'm not eligible.
it all depends on how much i can get the behold 2 for tomorrow. my friend already told me he would get me the mytouch for 149.99. if i was to get the behold 2 i'm thinking it would be the 199.99 price that current tmobile customers are eligible for. if its the 229.99 price, then i most likely wont get it and will get the mytouch.
but overall, i like the look of the behold 2 more than any of the current offerings from tmobile. my g1 runs good with cyans 4.2.5 rom.. its the fastest yet and getting better all the time. but the battery life is just damn awful and i can't deal with that anymore. and not to mention the behold 2 has a 5mp cam with flash. and that's something drawing me towards that phone. and also the 320MB RAM
I've never been a fan of samsungs.. all that graphical jazz gets in the way of usability imo.
Quite apart from that, I would be lost without my familiar bootloader/recovery system. It would be like losing a limb after all these years.
i have the behold 2 and the UI is terrible, really hurts usability. i'll write more details later, but i'll be flashing to stock android first opportunity i get.
Your basically exchanging a 1rst generation android phone, for another 1rst generation android phone that is running 1.5 (maybe 1.6, I can't recall). I would just wait man.... I really dont think a camera on a phone is more important. Why not wait a few months and get a stellar phone with a bigger processor and android 2.0. I really think it's a bad move on your part.
I took back the Behold II today and exchanged it for a myTouch. I had it for one day. Which shows you what I think about it.
Don't do it. I was in the same situation as you, I had the g1 since day one and got tired of it (and it's bulkiness), except that I switched to the Pre (which was good, but not Android) and gave my G1 away. I was with a dumbphone for a couple of months. So even though I plan on getting the Xperia X10, I couldn't live without a smartphone any longer..
But the Behold II is not a good phone. The UI changes are MAJOR. I know that they don't look major, before I got the phone I thought that the "touchwiz interface" was just the stupid cube. Don't use the cube, it's that simple right? Wrong. The entire screen is from the perspective that you are "inside the cube". So when you change screens, there is an animation of the cube moving. And it's not a simple "camera trick", because you can see your widgets moving as if they are on a 3D surface. It's kinda sorta cool, but it VERY LAGGY too....
This is the laggiest phone I've ever owned. You know how sometimes your G1 will be a little laggy when you bring up the app drawer? Well the Behold II does this every time. That's the worst thing, and why if I was Samsung I wouldn't have released the phone. Quite frankly, for the engineers it is embarrassing. I would be embarrassed to release this phone.
I'm cool with Android skinning... but they do more than just skin it. They have replaced most of the major applications (contacts, music, photos) with their own.... and what's crazy is that they are all worse than the android apps. Contacts can only be searched by first name... the music player is just awful, you can't get back to the main screen by bringing up the menu...
On all of the apps, when you bring up the menu, the buttons don't have icons. That doesn't hurt usability but it does show that Samsung didn't even want to pay designers to draw icons. It shows how little effort they put into this phone. It seems obvious that they didn't want to pay google for their apps so they made bad alternatives.
What this has done for me is open my eyes and make me realize how much I like stock android UI. It's really quite lovely once you're accustomed to it. I got the myTouch (which i'm loving so far) with the plan of still getting the Xperia X10... but I might not now. Not because the myTouch is so awesome, it is a 1gen phone after all.. but because I don't know if I want to leave stock android again.
Anyways, if you want another 1st gen android device, they are many good choices but the Behold II is not one of them. It'll will make me think twice about buying a Samsung product in the future because they obviously put no effort into this device other than to put their branding into it.
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Your basically exchanging a 1rst generation android phone, for another 1rst generation android phone that is running 1.5 (maybe 1.6, I can't recall). I would just wait man.... I really dont think a camera on a phone is more important. Why not wait a few months and get a stellar phone with a bigger processor and android 2.0. I really think it's a bad move on your part.
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it's 1.5 and won't get 1.6 even. samsung has no intent to upgrade this phone, ever.
And the camera, in my limited time, wasn't as great as advertised. Well, there are many reviewers out there who are more experts than I when it comes to camera, so I will take their word... but when I took pictures I had the same "shacky camera" problem that is typical of cell phone pictures.
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it's 1.5 and won't get 1.6 even. samsung has no intent to upgrade this phone, ever.
And the camera, in my limited time, wasn't as great as advertised. Well, there are many reviewers out there who are more experts than I when it comes to camera, so I will take their word... but when I took pictures I had the same "shacky camera" problem that is typical of cell phone pictures.
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gotta agree here, im a long time samsung instinct owner(origional&S30) both were awful including the custom Ui.Upgrades always made other features broken, but now im a proud G1 owner w/cyan mod.
Just thought of a couple of others things. I buy my music from lala.com (great great service, highly recommended) and when I put my mp3s on the Behold II they all came up as "unknown" artist. I assumed there was something wrong with the mp3 tags and thought of maybe contacting lala and asking why they have bad tags... but then when I exchanged the Behold II and got the myTouch, the tags are just fine on the same mp3 files. So the Samsung mp3 player doesn't recognize these artist tags for some reason, who knows why. Terrible.
Also, the home screen UI doesn't "snap" in place. So you can literally stack widgets/icons on top of each other. For a neat freak like me, getting everything "in line" is annoyingly difficult.
Not everything is bad. The virtual keyboard was pretty good, maybe even better than stock android. But overall the phone is flat-out embarrassing. I will never buy another Samsung phone, ever.
Also, the GPS is awful. I only had it for a day, but Maps was never able to locate me. Ever. After I got the myTouch, it locked me in on the drive home.
mateo2 said:
it's 1.5 and won't get 1.6 even. samsung has no intent to upgrade this phone, ever.
And the camera, in my limited time, wasn't as great as advertised. Well, there are many reviewers out there who are more experts than I when it comes to camera, so I will take their word... but when I took pictures I had the same "shacky camera" problem that is typical of cell phone pictures.
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umm actually you're wrong. they have stated that it will be upgraded to 2.0
Hey, I'm new here, and also new to smartphones. I was told to read up on this site to learn more about them. I bought a Behold II a couple days ago and its awesome. Now I realize its my first smartphone, so its probably in actuality not as awesome as I think it is, however I have spent plenty of time playing around with my friend's G1, and also a lot of time with the Cliq. So while this is this is the first I've ever owned, its not my first smartphone experience.
As for mateo2, its unfortunate that you had all those problems with the phone, but I've had it for about 5 days now and have not experienced all the problems you did. For instance, the app drawer has yet to lag in the 5 days that I've owned the phone. The home screens however do lag for about the first 5 seconds after you wake the phone up. This can be an annoyance to some, but it really is only about 5 seconds or so, and then its gone. I mean I can live with it.
Also, I disagree about the music player, I think it is much nicer than stock Android, the only problem is that the cover art doesn't transfer. It does on some, but on most it doesn't. So, hopefully there will be an update soon to fix that. I'm not quite sure what you're talking about with not being able to get back to the main screen by pressing menu. If you mean the home screen of the phone just hit home. If you mean the main screen of the music player you just swipe left or right.
Also, as someone else has said you are misinformed about the update, it will get updated to 2.0. Samsung has the update ready and is waiting on Tmobile to release it. It is mentioned in passing in the review or preview by Cnet I believe.
Contacts can only be searched by first name which may be an annoyance to some, but not really to me.
Also, the keyboard is much better than the stock Android's I have used. Some people have reported a lag that can be fixed by turning off the vibration feedback, I haven't had it lag noticeably yet though. The keyboard IS difficult to use in portrait mode however, so someone might want to get a keyboard replacement because of that. I only find that its difficult when I'm trying to do other things at the same time, like drive, so I'm going to keep the keyboard so I don't text and drive anymore lol.
The camera is the best I've seen on a phone. Better than the Behold my girlfriend has, better picture than the iPhone that my friend has (although not as quick), better than the Droid (from the short time I had with it, and also from reviews that I've seen of it). The flash can be too bright at times, but some time with the camera and you figure out how to work it properly and the pictures are really quite amazing for a phone.
If anyone has any questions I'd be happy to answer them the best I can. Like I said earlier, I'm not as smart as you guys when it comes to these devices so you might ask me something that I have no idea how to answer haha. But, I plan on reading around this forum over the next couple of weeks to expand my knowledge. Hopefully it works, and I can root the thing without breaking it
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Hey, I'm new here, and also new to smartphones. I was told to read up on this site to learn more about them. I bought a Behold II a couple days ago and its awesome. Now I realize its my first smartphone, so its probably in actuality not as awesome as I think it is, however I have spent plenty of time playing around with my friend's G1, and also a lot of time with the Cliq. So while this is this is the first I've ever owned, its not my first smartphone experience.
As for mateo2, its unfortunate that you had all those problems with the phone, but I've had it for about 5 days now and have not experienced all the problems you did. For instance, the app drawer has yet to lag in the 5 days that I've owned the phone. The home screens however do lag for about the first 5 seconds after you wake the phone up. This can be an annoyance to some, but it really is only about 5 seconds or so, and then its gone. I mean I can live with it.
Also, I disagree about the music player, I think it is much nicer than stock Android, the only problem is that the cover art doesn't transfer. It does on some, but on most it doesn't. So, hopefully there will be an update soon to fix that. I'm not quite sure what you're talking about with not being able to get back to the main screen by pressing menu. If you mean the home screen of the phone just hit home. If you mean the main screen of the music player you just swipe left or right.
Also, as someone else has said you are misinformed about the update, it will get updated to 2.0. Samsung has the update ready and is waiting on Tmobile to release it. It is mentioned in passing in the review or preview by Cnet I believe.
Contacts can only be searched by first name which may be an annoyance to some, but not really to me.
Also, the keyboard is much better than the stock Android's I have used. Some people have reported a lag that can be fixed by turning off the vibration feedback, I haven't had it lag noticeably yet though. The keyboard IS difficult to use in portrait mode however, so someone might want to get a keyboard replacement because of that. I only find that its difficult when I'm trying to do other things at the same time, like drive, so I'm going to keep the keyboard so I don't text and drive anymore lol.
The camera is the best I've seen on a phone. Better than the Behold my girlfriend has, better picture than the iPhone that my friend has (although not as quick), better than the Droid (from the short time I had with it, and also from reviews that I've seen of it). The flash can be too bright at times, but some time with the camera and you figure out how to work it properly and the pictures are really quite amazing for a phone.
If anyone has any questions I'd be happy to answer them the best I can. Like I said earlier, I'm not as smart as you guys when it comes to these devices so you might ask me something that I have no idea how to answer haha. But, I plan on reading around this forum over the next couple of weeks to expand my knowledge. Hopefully it works, and I can root the thing without breaking it
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well put man. i've had this phone since the day it came out, so, i guess a week now. and i'm liking it. it has taken some getting use to after having a G1 for over a year, but i am very glad i made this purchase and not the mytouch. the mytouch is great, but its missing things that this phone doesn't have. one of these days, hopefully soon, there will be a hack to where we can root this phone without it getting rid of the root at startup, because as of right now, that is what is happening. samsung has put a pretty tough security lock on this phone. hopefully someone can crack it soon.
I'm new to android phones, so here goes my question. Are these 2 models similar enough that if I have these phones, from at&t preferably or t-mobile, and the phones are both unlocked could I burn the rom from one provider, to change over from say at&t to t-mobile and have access to [My Account] plus all the associated t-mobile software, then switch back by burning rom from sd to use at&t stuff?
Reason for this is can get them darn near free (actually free if I take minimum family plan plus text plan and get 2 samsung captivate for $50 plus an extra free android. I just need to re-flash one of the captivate phone to t-mobile when I'm in Canada. LOL, I'm Canadian EH!
Long and short can I do this, as I spent 3 days figuring how to update a Behold 2, making it rooted and getting latest 1.6. This included learning to partition sd card to Fat/Ext 4 with swap and logical partitions. That was real fun and accidentally wiped my attached esata backup drive, which caused me to name all my drives same as in Linux hda ETC. well I digress.
Thanks in advance.
They are different enough that the ROM from one won't boot on the other without alterations. A couple of examples of this are the orientation sensors, which on the Captivate are rotated 90 degrees from the way the are on Vibrant (and any other Galaxy S phone). As a result flashing a Vibrant kernel on Captivate will cause the screen to be off by 90 degrees. On the Vibrant the GPS is somewhat differently configured than other Galaxy S phones. As a result ROMS from Captivate will cause the GPS to not function at all. When someone is able to come up with a custom ROM that has a unified kernel, these will be not an issue, but that is yet to happen.
Tks ever so much. That's what i need to know.
Hi to all,
like I said HERE I'm going to buy a nexus one...for a very good price...
do you think is a good choice instead of buying the sony ericsson x10?
I like sony ericsson really much, and I like its design and 4 inch display, but I think nexus is more permormant, and amoled is great...
let me know I don't want to buy an android that is not so good...
Thanks
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I have another stupid question: can I install app on the sd card? because I read that nexus have 200mb for installing software...is really limited
Have you used the sony ericsson before? Or do you just like the design/4 inch display? I personally don't like SE Phones and don't like the software either. Never had a good experience I do miss the old days though ... I forget the name of the phone I Think it was like w850i or something olddd phones but great. I don't like their smartphones. If I were you I'd get the nexus one over the SE x10 (I did that) but honestly I wouldn't get either. There are too many newer and better phones out now! and yep you can install apps on the sd card. The nexus one internal blows (I think most people do it cause you cant install many apps without it)
ok but with 190$ I think I can't buy a phone better than nexus one or x10
You will regret getting a Sony Ericsson android phone. Definitely nexus one.
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I have another stupid question: can I install app on the sd card? because I read that nexus have 200mb for installing software...is really limited
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Yes you can install apps to SD. Not all apps can be moved though. There is also a trick to force apps to SD even if the dev didn't program it that way, and you don't even need root to do it. I'll post the link when I get home.
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Here are two links that should help you if you want to move most (if not all) apps to sd. I've done it on my N1, and I can tell you it works perfect. The best part about this method is it makes the sd the default location, and bypasses the internal storage all together, so you can even download huge apps. An example is Plants vs Zombies. My internal space available is 25MB. PvsZ is 75MB on it's own, but with this method I was able to get it on my N1 with no issues at all. I think the only apps you can't move are Google apps like Maps, Amazon MP3, etc. You can even move Flash to the sd with this. Enjoy.
EDIT: Yes you can move the apps back to internal if you need to. They don't have to stay on the sd. Just pointing this out as widgets shouldn't be on the sd.
http://androinica.com/2010/08/how-to-install-apps-to-the-sd-card-by-default-on-android-2-2-froyo/
http://androidforums.com/nexus-one/270910-internal-storage-space-rant.html
liam.lah said:
You will regret getting a Sony Ericsson android phone. Definitely nexus one.
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I didn't understand...you advice me SE or N1?
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Yes you can install apps to SD. Not all apps can be moved though. There is also a trick to force apps to SD even if the dev didn't program it that way, and you don't even need root to do it. I'll post the link when I get home.
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Really really thanks a lot for the links
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I didn't understand...you advice me SE or N1?
Really really thanks a lot for the links
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No problem. And for the post about the SE or N1 they are saying get an N1. The SE will disappoint you. You will be very happy with the N1. I love mine.
Highly recommend the N1 over the SE!
the nexus one is a superb device for 190 dollars. i would go with the n1 over the SE without a doubt.
So far I have purchased two N1's used and it has been the best phone purchase so far. I paid more than what you are paying for so yes I think it is the better choice than the SE.
The first N1 purchase was for myself but my wife liked it so much I gave it to her and bought me another N1. You will not be disappointed.
Not sure if you know but I'll inform you just in case. Google sold the N1 with two base bands. One for AT&T 3G and another for T-mobile 3G. One way to physically tell the difference is by checking the following link below I pulled from the Google forums:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=395c29e6b9cab6bc&hl=en
I also pasted the information from the link above:
Pull the battery and look for the PB # which is located just below the IMEI, S/N, and P/N #’s. You should see one of two PB numbers:
PB99110: 850 MHz, 1900 MHz, and 2100 MHz such as AT&T
PB99100: 900 MHz, AWS, 1700 and 2100 MHz such as T-Mobile
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Rooted Nexus One [T-mobile]
ROM: CM7 RC4-N1
Recovery: ClockworkMod 3.0.0.5
I only owned SE phones from the T68i on... Then I bought the X10 and loved it for a while because it was my first Android phone, but I found myself always wanting more out of it and realized that every mod I was doing was basically to get on par with other phones. I looked into the Nexus One and went for it.
I have never looked back and cannot believe I even wasted my time on the X10 for a few months. The N1 is a far superior user experience and just a better phone. I still love the device now and have not thought about upgrading yet. This is the most solid experience you're going to get for $190, not to mention if you are looking to flash custom roms and/or kernels, etc... you DO NOT want to deal with SE's UI at all..
but for the battery life?
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but for the battery life?
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My N1 can go two days easy with moderate use. Screen on time for two days is around 3 1/2 to 4 hours. That's on the stock battery, so I'm happy. You can get higher capacity batteries the same size from Mugen, or Seidio, so even if you need more life, you can always get a higher capacity battery.
Nexus one's so-called drawbacks:
No Physical buttons Absolutely. though physical keyboard is not that important, buttons certainly are.
Only Trackball, Not Optical
besides this in general its fine.
Trackball is great. I honestly do not know what im going to do when my next phone does not have trackball colours.
Trackball notify me for sms and calls?
I just love the way the SE P1 (the most beautiful phone I have had so far) notify the messages...
Oh I have another two question (this evening I'm going to take the n1):
1)can I import windows contacts?
2)how about push notification? they are like iphone?
Dunno. Optical Sensor is supposed to have better feeling...
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Nexus one's so-called drawbacks:
No Physical buttons Absolutely. though physical keyboard is not that important, buttons certainly are.
Only Trackball, Not Optical
besides this in general its fine.
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I think if the buttons were actually centered to the icons for touch I wouldn't mind as much, but having to touch slightly above the icons makes me want physical buttons, so there are no misses. I love the ball instead of the optical. Notifications are awesome, and I have excellent accuracy with it.
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I think if the buttons were actually centered to the icons for touch I wouldn't mind as much, but having to touch slightly above the icons makes me want physical buttons, so there are no misses. I love the ball instead of the optical. Notifications are awesome, and I have excellent accuracy with it.
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Physical buttons are old school and are on their way out...kinda like the resistive screen, keyboard, etc.!
I'm about to pull the trigger on purchasing this phone. I would like to ask if anyone out there REALLY miss having a micro SD slot or not. I've had my HTC Incredible for 4+ years now, and I've gotten used to having an easily accessible slot.
Do the HTC One owners wish they had this option on their phone? Or is it something you've gotten over, and no longer feel the need for?
Thanks!
Nope plenty of storage
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I had the HTC Incredible also, then I went with the iPhone (32GB), then to the G-Nexus (32GB), now I'm on the HTC One (also 32GB). I've gotten used to the fixed storage, and I have yet to fill it up, even with several apps (40+) and about 8 playlists saved on Spotify.
HD Videos will eat the space up like it's nothing. Ask me how I know -_-
I definitely miss it. I'm managing now but the hassle of eventually having to delete stuff for space will annoy me.
I miss it just because of how dangerous is to loose everything and cant recover it.
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How about removable battery?
Thanks for the replies! How about the lack of a removable battery?
I just know with experimenting with several ROMs, Kernels, and such, there has been need of doing a "battery pull".
Has anyone encountered a problem with this? Or is there some type of kill-switch or override built in?
Thanks again.
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Thanks for the replies! How about the lack of a removable battery?
I just know with experimenting with several ROMs, Kernels, and such, there has been need of doing a "battery pull".
Has anyone encountered a problem with this? Or is there some type of kill-switch or override built in?
Thanks again.
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Generally Power + Volume down will also do a reboot, just like pulling the battery
thekwijibo said:
I'm about to pull the trigger on purchasing this phone. I would like to ask if anyone out there REALLY miss having a micro SD slot or not. I've had my HTC Incredible for 4+ years now, and I've gotten used to having an easily accessible slot.
Do the HTC One owners wish they had this option on their phone? Or is it something you've gotten over, and no longer feel the need for?
Thanks!
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It's your call at the end of the day, everyones usage is different, some people like a lot of movies, others like games, or music, or apps.
You have to weigh up if this is enough for you. For me I always keep to my means.
32GB is plenty when you think about it, just don't keep un needed apps on your phone and honestly i don't think anyone needs 10,000 mp3's
So with a little juggling you can have a large library of apps, games, movies, pics and music with a load of space left over.
I'm around 12GB away but i know i could max it out if i installed all my apps, I just install what i need and if i need anything else then i can download it, keeps the phone nice and neat with little bloat too.
I had quite a few reservations before buying this phone but i'm glad that i did now, this year the One is the one to beat and for me it's the better buy between itself and it's nearest competitior which is the SGS4, the build quality, the audio, the screen, the overall look of the device is just mind blowing.
Only gripes i have is that it "DOES" get hot when you stress it, you notice it a lot more because of the aluminium chassis, the battery isn't as good as i'd have hoped and the BT stack is good old HTC's limited version rather than the one used on stock android or even samsung and other phones.
That last one is a personal gripe because i like to play tekken 3 with a ps3 controller but the Moga Pro is a decent replacement even if it is £40
Also the camera isn't great, although in low light it's suprisingly good and it picks up picture where'as the likes of the note 2 only gets a black screen.
Overall it's a beast of a handset and the battery being locked in is something that you'll get used to, forcing a reboot is simply a case of holding power until it goes off.
I've never used an SD card even in phones where I had the option! I hardly store anything on my phone but the 25-odd GB on the One is more than enough for me
I use a Mac and I miss not being able to simply mount my phone as an external storage. I can use the Andriod File Transfer utility, and I do, but it's kinda buggy and not convenient.
As far as the size of storage goes, it's plenty.
I have been away from HTC for a while and things have changed and imo not for the better. I absolutely loved my OG Evo and kept it up to the Evo LTE. I changed to iOS because I'm not a fan of overly large devices. Now though I am using the One m8 and Sense isn't Sense any longer and I've noticed that some apps I used aren't as good as they were the last time I used them. Before I go to far let me go ahead and answer some questions. 1st - I do not like large devices which is why I went iOS because that was/is the only way not to have to purchase one. 2nd - Was my sons phone and since having surgery on his hand he can't use this large device 1 handed without constantly dropping it. Me swapping my 5s with him is cheaper than replacement phones. Now to my reason for posting:
On my OG (Rooted) I used GoLauncher some. Mostly when I wanted to do something other than Sense. My most used app though, even during my short time with the Evo LTE, was GoSMS. I liked it because it would bypass the 160 char limit and Send/Receive large unbroken messages to/from and phone that supported it like all AT&T and iPhones. Installed GoSMS and it doesn't seem to have that feature any longer. Tested it on my 5s which has this ability even on Sprint network. Brings me to my questions.
1 - Is there a ROM that has the Classic Sense built in, ie no Blink and 7 screens, or is there a Launcher that does offer this feature and not as slow and bloated as Go?
2 - Is there still a Market App that handles SMS the way Go did? Have tried it and it no longer offers why I used it, or at least not on my device.
My phone is Stock including the last update that rolled out a couple days ago.
So after doing some searching and finally my OLD mind beginning to work I think I have the solution but it's going to require the help of someone here I think. Hopefully . My PC burnt out last year and I had saved every ROM I ever downloaded for my OG. One of them was SOS+ v2.0.9.8. This Rom has both files I am seeking .Anyone from OG days still have a copy I can get?