I was wondering is there an app which allows you to limit the programs that run during stand-by? I know there are already apps like Advance Task Killer, but what I'm referring to is an app that could say let you set only certain programs such as phone, messaging, email, etc. to run on stand-by so your battery isn't being killed by unused apps.
Battery saving apps tend to use more battery than they save. Remember that they have to be constantly running to monitor the rest of the phone.
Freeze the apps u use once-in-a-blue-moon using TiBu.
Avoid using task killers and battery savers.
Take a look at Juice Defender, it handles turning off the various antenna's depending upon usage.
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can anyone recommend a good task killer? ive tried atk on 2.2 but its very sluggish. i dl task panel x and it doesnt update frequently lol. i have autokiller memory but not sure if i am using it right lol. so if anyone is using a task killer, what r u using and r u getting good results? thanks in advance!
Do not use autokiller. I can't remember what problem it causes but it does indeed cause a problem on all galaxy phones. Or at laast my fascinate
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You shouldn't need one from all I've read about it.
but I use system panel to kill an app here and there.
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Don't bother using a task killer. I used Advance Task Killer for the last two weeks but it probably hampered things more than it helped. Your phone will NOT slow down to a crawl. Most custom ROMs use good minfree settings that'll keep your phone snappy.
Just uninstall your task killer, or if you want to use it, turn off autostart, turn off autokill, and only use it for pesky apps that won't die.
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can anyone recommend a good task killer? ive tried atk on 2.2 but its very sluggish. i dl task panel x and it doesnt update frequently lol. i have autokiller memory but not sure if i am using it right lol. so if anyone is using a task killer, what r u using and r u getting good results? thanks in advance!
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I was using ATK and could not verify any benefit. I read the following article and gained some more understanding. I have been running without a Task Killer since and I see no loss in performance or battery life. I could say I have less FCs and more reliability with syncing email.
Read This: http://lifehacker.com/5650894/android-task-killers-explained-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
i have been getting random shutdown these few days (started like 3 days ago), about 1 shutdown per day. i'm not sure if it' the stock task manager, dolphin browser beta 4.0, or widget locker 1.2.7 causing it. i already removed stock task manager and downgraded widget locker to 1.2.4 to see what happens.
Task killers aren't generally needed on android. If its battery life you want then for one try not to compulsively look at your phone preventing the cpu from idling and screen from turning off. Get juice defender. It turns off data unless it is needed. Most apps don't use resorces when the phone is asleep unless they are designed to, like file sharing programs or apps that sync data in the background but there are also bad apps. In froyo Use the built in task manager (long prsss on home) to see what's running. If you havent used something in a while and don't need the process active then close it.
If it is performance you want then no task manager will help. You need to alter the minfree setting which manages memory and how apps use it. I use the one click lag fix app to do that. Other apps I used caused problems. I set the minfree to moderate. Its more agressive than stock but doesn't kill processes you might want running. Anything more agressive than that kills allshare while im streaming movies but there is a performance increase when set to optimal or strict however it is slight.
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According to Juicedefender battery saver-Autotask killer bad for our battery & which cause more battery draining.they directely said that avoid auto task kill.Is it true?
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It really depend on how u use ur phone. If u kill task that u do not yse fir a long time it actually save ur battery on the ither hand if u kill an app amd then run it again it will drain mire battery. Also dont kill system app they will just start right up which lead to battery drain. I personnaly use advanced task killer and set ignore the app u often use, dusable autokiller and set security level to low to avoid killing system. But it just a matter of opinion really so just decude for ur self.
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Im using easy task killer for months now. Though I wasn't aware about it draining my battery. Thanks for this info. Though I havent had any issues, still Ill look more to it. :beer:
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It’s still up in the air.
I'm using Advanced taskkiller.should i disable auto taskkiller.or auto taskkiller can effect battery?
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I'm using Advanced taskkiller.should i disable auto taskkiller.or auto taskkiller can effect battery?
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yes, it's better to kill app's manual
I also using two different task killer, but never set them to auto.. just like other opinion, it's true iff we continuously set the app to kill system or app we recently use, it might be drained our battery more effectively.. theoritycally it's just like you do the same task all over again in the same day.. wouldn't it gave you more exhausted than you do it only one time and manage to do it the other day..?
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Here, i give you a reason why autotask killer is battery draining.
#1. Android kills app every 15 minutes when phone is almost out of memory, Android drastically pushes old app process and kill them so currently running app can be running. AutoTask Killer kill app foreground & underground apps process, underground apps generated by app itself, and generating underground app is use some battery & CPU cycle. Android kill app only it's FOREGROUND apps which still save alot battery rather than generate another Underground app which eats battery & CPU cycle.
#2. AutoTask killer kills system app. System app generates more cache & underground process than user apps, since system app always runned by Android for some reason (at JB 4.2.1 it's managed more extensively). Just like reason number 1, underground & cache generating in Android consumes ALOT of battery.
#3. Task killing consumes CPU Cycle, CPU will need to get it's higher hertz to keep speed, higher the CPU, more battery killed
#4. Task killing MAY free RAM, until Android generate another cache which eats up X2 RAM than old cache, since new cache refreshed and need to be intergrated with apps. More RAM, no More Multitasking !
#5. AutoTask Killer make apps process blocked, which slow-down apps, since app cache is deleted. To make the app keep smooth, CPU is set to it's higher hertz, just like reason number 3, higher CPU, more battery killed.
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Here, i give you a reason why autotask killer is battery draining.
#1. Android kills app every 15 minutes when phone is almost out of memory, Android drastically pushes old app process and kill them so currently running app can be running. AutoTask Killer kill app foreground & underground apps process, underground apps generated by app itself, and generating underground app is use some battery & CPU cycle. Android kill app only it's FOREGROUND apps which still save alot battery rather than generate another Underground app which eats battery & CPU cycle.
#2. AutoTask killer kills system app. System app generates more cache & underground process than user apps, since system app always runned by Android for some reason (at JB 4.2.1 it's managed more extensively). Just like reason number 1, underground & cache generating in Android consumes ALOT of battery.
#3. Task killing consumes CPU Cycle, CPU will need to get it's higher hertz to keep speed, higher the CPU, more battery killed
#4. Task killing MAY free RAM, until Android generate another cache which eats up X2 RAM than old cache, since new cache refreshed and need to be intergrated with apps. More RAM, no More Multitasking !
#5. AutoTask Killer make apps process blocked, which slow-down apps, since app cache is deleted. To make the app keep smooth, CPU is set to it's higher hertz, just like reason number 3, higher CPU, more battery killed.
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so a ram manager app or a script for ram is better?
Actually it depends on how you use. I use Advanced Task Killer pro to kill apps after a session and to monitor which apps open by itself and run in background. Those apps are the ones I freeze in titanium backup pro. Some of them are Google Maps, Facebook (I use it rarely, FB app sucks)
Dont use the scheduled auto kill option, that will drain the battery.
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so a ram manager app or a script for ram is better?
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I'm using TouchWiz V5 (JB 4.2.1) + Ram Manager Pro and also Seeder have saver my battery.
I'm not charge my LilG for about 2days and still working fine..
Seeder ==> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
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Our mini can't handle a task killer. I suggest you to not use any of them.
If you want to kill an app, use the "long press back to kill" option in cyanogenmod.
Inspite of killing all applications by task manager or task killer programs and keeping the phone idle for say 1 minute ie without using it, when open the task killer, again some applications are there. what I would like to know is after killing the applications unless I start an application, applications stay killed. I tried periodic killing also.
Most of the apps are "listening" for specific system events, which cause them to perform some actions, killing such apps (e.g. using task killers) to save battery is counterproductive, cause in the end your device will consume more battery due to constant killing-restarting cycle.
To manage the problem you could use one of the two apps (maybe there's more, don't know), Autorun Manager or Autostarts, both available in market. Using either of those two you can disable the events causing apps to restart, usually without damaging their functionality - for example, if you want to use fb only when you need it, you can disable all triggers, and the app we'll run only when started by you, and will not restart when killed.
According to android its how memory management works.
It always loads it in memory. Its just there and works differently then windows where it eats your resources
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I use auto starts and it really helped me in naughty apps that insist on running after boot. Culprits are usually games and such.
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What's your opinions on these? I use Android Assistant (18 Features) to clear out some apps that don't need to be running and "boost" my system.... But I was told all that does is cause instability, and battery life to depleted faster.
I also use it to monitor my battery life and what is using the battery and how much of it.
Android already does that itself (kills extraneous apps when you need more RAM and tells you what's using what amount of battery). If you're rooted you can delete anything that you don't want on your phone and task killers do indeed just use up even more battery than would be used otherwise since the apps that it's killing are just continually being restarted.
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Android already does that itself (kills extraneous apps when you need more RAM and tells you what's using what amount of battery). If you're rooted you can delete anything that you don't want on your phone and task killers do indeed just use up even more battery than would be used otherwise since the apps that it's killing are just continually being restarted.
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Fair enough. Yes, I am rooted.. Running Wajee's de-sensed ICS CRT-OFF (Whatever that means) and have deleted pretty much anything I don't... Or won't use. What app would you recommend to monitor battery, battery usage, ram usage, etc?
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Fair enough. Yes, I am rooted.. Running Wajee's de-sensed ICS CRT-OFF (Whatever that means) and have deleted pretty much anything I don't... Or won't use. What app would you recommend to monitor battery, battery usage, ram usage, etc?
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Do you really need something to monitor it more then stock does? Settings/Battery (or power) let's you know your current percen as well as some main apps eating your battery...and settings/apps-running displays the amount of ram being used out of the total on the bottom
What more then that do you need for monitoring? Anything extra is just eating more battery by running on the background and doing something the system already does...and if you want to kill am app you can go under settings/apps locate the app in any of the tabs tap it for more info and click force stop...built in task killer
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Do you really need something to monitor it more then stock does? Settings/Battery (or power) let's you know your current percen as well as some main apps eating your battery...and settings/apps-running displays the amount of ram being used out of the total on the bottom
What more then that do you need for monitoring? Anything extra is just eating more battery by running on the background and doing something the system already does...and if you want to kill am app you can go under settings/apps locate the app in any of the tabs tap it for more info and click force stop...built in task killer
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Sorry, I forgot that Android has that built-in. What about apps to clean Cache / etc? I use SD Maid Pro currently. Seems to be the best.
And another thing.. How can I kill certain apps from opening on start up? Like... For instance, Dolphin browser, PowerAMP, etc.
I am wondering if we have a task manager/process explorer app for Nexus 4? Currently I am using AirDroid v2 that includes a task manager, but I am looking for one with more options.
I travel a lot & would like to kill as much unwanted applications running in the background as possible to conserve battery.
There is no more need to use task killer to manage android systems any more. You will be doing more harm than good, in fact there is no good in killing tssks manually.
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Point noted.
But when I use Airdroid task manager, I see a process when the corresponding app is not running the background.
To mention a few; Cut the rope free, stocks & Hill climb racing.
Few system process like picasa uploader, chrome etc.
As you said andoird may optimize most of them, but I would like some control when running thin on battery.
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I am wondering if we have a task manager/process explorer app for Nexus 4? Currently I am using AirDroid v2 that includes a task manager, but I am looking for one with more options.
I travel a lot & would like to kill as much unwanted applications running in the background as possible to conserve battery.
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use greenify https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify&hl=en to hibernate any persisting apps/processes (except system). apps relaunch when you open them.
Killing apps and then having to reload them actually uses more battery than them being dormant in the background and already loaded when called upon. The problem is when you have misbehaving apps that stay in the foreground eating up cpu, instead of going dormant into the background. And this does happen. I use an app called Watchdog that alerts me when this happens. It allows you to kill the app when this happens. It also allows you to whitelist and blacklist apps and processes.
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main phone setting, apps, running.. default task/process manager. in the top right will be an option to show cached process as well.
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main phone setting, apps, running.. default task/process manager. in the top right will be an option to show cached process as well.
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We all know that is there. The op mentioned wanting more options, mainly monitoring and kill options.
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I am wondering if we have a task manager/process explorer app for Nexus 4? Currently I am using AirDroid v2 that includes a task manager, but I am looking for one with more options.
I travel a lot & would like to kill as much unwanted applications running in the background as possible to conserve battery.
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We all know that is there. The op mentioned wanting more options, mainly monitoring and kill options.
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fast reboot(free), but the paid version i like better https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greatbytes.fastreboot&hl=en
rayiskon, I will try greenify & let you know how that helps.
fernandezhjr, I agree restarting app is not an optimal way, but I require to squeeze battery to atleast make phone calls when I am away from charging options.
simms22, fast reboot looks promising. I'll try the free one for now and take it from there.
It's kind of already been said, but I want to clarify as much as possible.
Apps running dormant in the background (using RAM) use no more power than if it weren't running. This is because all of the memory you have is being refreshed all the time, the controller has no idea whether there is actually data there, it still refreshes the entire space of memory.
Apps running "dormant" but using CPU do use more power than if it weren't running. I assume OP is wanting some sort of monitoring app that shows which apps are using CPU, in which case is fine. If OP is wanting to kill all apps that he isn't using at the time to conserve battery, then he would actually be doing the opposite of what he wants, as it requires to CPU to spin back up to restart it later. Again, the difference here is RAM vs CPU, one doesn't use battery (or rather, uses the same amount of battery, no matter how much of it is being utilized), and one can use more or less battery depending on how much it's used.
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It's kind of already been said, but I want to clarify as much as possible.
Apps running dormant in the background (using RAM) use no more power than if it weren't running. This is because all of the memory you have is being refreshed all the time, the controller has no idea whether there is actually data there, it still refreshes the entire space of memory.
Apps running "dormant" but using CPU do use more power than if it weren't running. I assume OP is wanting some sort of monitoring app that shows which apps are using CPU, in which case is fine. If OP is wanting to kill all apps that he isn't using at the time to conserve battery, then he would actually be doing the opposite of what he wants, as it requires to CPU to spin back up to restart it later. Again, the difference here is RAM vs CPU, one doesn't use battery (or rather, uses the same amount of battery, no matter how much of it is being utilized), and one can use more or less battery depending on how much it's used.
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Thanks for the detailed explanation. I understand killing process, shutting down cached process or apps & later restarting them is only going to fire up the CPU usage which completely defeats the purpose of conserving battery.
Though not a daily ask, at times I am stuck in situation where a phone call or SMS is all I need to keep me going.