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Infiniti/Nissan bluetooth problems with Tilt/8925/Kaiser

Apparently there is a known issue with the Microsoft bluetooth stack which makes it virtually useless to use this phone with Infiniti/Nissan vehicles.
I own a G37, and when I connect the Tilt, everything connects but the quality is sooooo poor that it sounds as if I have the phone in the house and the car is 100 ft away (crackling sound, and no one on the other end can hear me).
I have tried several of the roms here, including the official ones, and no luck thus far. I have tried playing around with the bitpool settings and once again no luck.
Anyone have any suggestions? Is there any way of replacing the Microsoft stack implementation from the Kaiser with the one from the Hermes? That one works perfectly with my car...

Have you tried Austinsync's clean rom? Its working fine with my M45 and I had the same problem you did with some other ROMs. Not sure if ROM change fixed it or one of the other hundred changes I make to my phone every other day. I assume you have adjusted the volume while in-call?

sell your car and buy American!

kireol said:
sell your car and buy American!
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Your phone is made by a Taiwanese manufacturer. I tried searching for a American-made cellphone so that you could immediately begin your purchasing prospects, but was stunned to find that there is not one American cellphone manufacturer.
Your profile picture looks somewhat like a Dodge Ram to me. You might be interested to know that Chrysler recently built a new $315M Dodge plant in Brazil. They also worked collaboratively with Mitsubishi and Hyundai to design 3 engines that will be manufactured mostly in South Korea and Japan.
But let me get back to the topic at hand. I own a 2007 G35S Sedan and I have had very minimal trouble with my Tilt and the handsfree system. Everything works fine, including the reception meter (never worked on my 8525, even with WM6 ROMs). The only problem that I have noticed is that if I answer an incoming call using the button on the steering wheel, the car appears to start the call, though the audio is routed through the phone for the first 10 seconds and then the car resumes control. It is worth noting that I couldn't get my 8525 (WM6) to work with the car at all - even with the latest and greatest.

I will borrow my dad's Kaiser (as mine was returned earlier today), and try the Austinsnyc's superstorage rom. Hope it works, although I think it's based on the base HTC rom. As I'm sure they're using the same Bluetooth stack, problem should be the same.
Either way, I'll try and report if it works.
As far as the buying American... I thought that whole marketing scheme went out the window a few years ago when Chrysler merged with Mercedes Benz, and most of our products are made in China (as our workers are not willing to work so cheap without going on strike)... don't you just love the beauty of the world economy?

klasikahl said:
Your phone is made by a Taiwanese manufacturer. I tried searching for a American-made cellphone so that you could immediately begin your purchasing prospects, but was stunned to find that there is not one American cellphone manufacturer.
Your profile picture looks somewhat like a Dodge Ram to me. You might be interested to know that Chrysler recently built a new $315M Dodge plant in Brazil. They also worked collaboratively with Mitsubishi and Hyundai to design 3 engines that will be manufactured mostly in South Korea and Japan.
But let me get back to the topic at hand. I own a 2007 G35S Sedan and I have had very minimal trouble with my Tilt and the handsfree system. Everything works fine, including the reception meter (never worked on my 8525, even with WM6 ROMs). The only problem that I have noticed is that if I answer an incoming call using the button on the steering wheel, the car appears to start the call, though the audio is routed through the phone for the first 10 seconds and then the car resumes control. It is worth noting that I couldn't get my 8525 (WM6) to work with the car at all - even with the latest and greatest.
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It was supposed to be a joke as it has nothing to do with the car. But since you wanted to act all high and mighty......
My Dodge ram was designed approximately 15 miles from my house. It was built 5.5 miles from my house. The company that built it employs approx 200,000+ direct employees and roughly 400,000 indirect, here in the U.S., where i live. At an average salary of $75,000 that's roughly 45,000,000,000 that the company that I buy my car from pumps back into the American economy. This does not include car dealers.
The 2007 G35S is designed in Japan. The 2007 G35S is built in Japan. The 2007 G35S employs maybe 1000 people here in the U.S. because someone has to import it and drive the boat, drive trucks, and do paper work. At an average salary(i'm sure it's way off but lets pretend) of $75,000 that's 75,000,000 that gets pumped back into the American economy. This does not include car dealers.
45,000,000,000 vs 75,000,000
yeah, you are right, it's all even. buy imported cars. it makes sense.

Thats EXACTLY the same problem with my 2007 G35 sedan and my HTC TYTN 2.
When i press the receive button, it takes 10-15 seconds to transfer over to the car audio (goes to the handset first).
THe only solution i have is to receive the call using the phone's talk button, which will go immediately to the car.
I am currently running Dutty's Touchflow Final 2 rom.
BTW. Before my G35, i had a 2006 Chrysler 300C Hemi rollin on 22's with full multimedia setup. My first domestic. I only owned imports before. After i came back to get my infinity G35 (after my major accident), i remember now why imports are so much better than domestci. The Infiniti is built like a ROCK, and the 300 was very crude in build quality.
Anyhow.
klasikahl said:
Your phone is made by a Taiwanese manufacturer. I tried searching for a American-made cellphone so that you could immediately begin your purchasing prospects, but was stunned to find that there is not one American cellphone manufacturer.
Your profile picture looks somewhat like a Dodge Ram to me. You might be interested to know that Chrysler recently built a new $315M Dodge plant in Brazil. They also worked collaboratively with Mitsubishi and Hyundai to design 3 engines that will be manufactured mostly in South Korea and Japan.
But let me get back to the topic at hand. I own a 2007 G35S Sedan and I have had very minimal trouble with my Tilt and the handsfree system. Everything works fine, including the reception meter (never worked on my 8525, even with WM6 ROMs). The only problem that I have noticed is that if I answer an incoming call using the button on the steering wheel, the car appears to start the call, though the audio is routed through the phone for the first 10 seconds and then the car resumes control. It is worth noting that I couldn't get my 8525 (WM6) to work with the car at all - even with the latest and greatest.
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No problems in my M45...
Maybe it's the car and not the phone?
I had a G35 prior to the Bluetooth option so I cant speak about the quality there but the M45 has been pretty good. the Tilt has a low out put at times but 95% of the time it connects perfectly with zero issues. beats using a headset imo

could be the car, but more than likely it's not... here's why:
I have successfully paired and used 2 tytn, 2 8125 (Wizard), and 1 ol' school SMT5600. All worked fine without any crackling, or the other person on the other end not hearing me...
On the other hand, I have tried 2 Kaisers and both exhibit the exact same things...
(btw, in the info screen about the bluetooth connection the connection shows up as "poor" for the kaisers, excellent for the rest...)
It's hard to believe that I'm the only a-hole that has the Kaiser/Tilt and G37 combo out there... anyone else having the same problem or am I alone on this one?

Did you not read my post? I have a Tytn 2 and a 2007 G35 sedan with the exact same problems as you.. Just use the Talk button on your phone to receive calls..
Arent you on G35drivers.com?
marsb007 said:
could be the car, but more than likely it's not... here's why:
I have successfully paired and used 2 tytn, 2 8125 (Wizard), and 1 ol' school SMT5600. All worked fine without any crackling, or the other person on the other end not hearing me...
On the other hand, I have tried 2 Kaisers and both exhibit the exact same things...
(btw, in the info screen about the bluetooth connection the connection shows up as "poor" for the kaisers, excellent for the rest...)
It's hard to believe that I'm the only a-hole that has the Kaiser/Tilt and G37 combo out there... anyone else having the same problem or am I alone on this one?
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Tilt + my Mercedes work great.

Same problem w/ Tilt & G35x
Not that I'm glad anyone is having this problem but glad to see it isn't just me. I started with an unlocked imported TyTN (Hermes) phone that worked perfectly in my '07 G35x purchased in May. I never had one problem pairing in the car, receiving or making calls, using voice commands via the car or audio quality.
As soon as I purchased my Tilt I immediately had problems in the G35x but not with any other bluetooth device (I also have a Garmin c550 and pair and make / receive calls with it without any problems).
I can pair the Tilt with the car - no problem. I can use voice commands to make a call - no problem. As soon as the phone starts to ring through the car speakers I can tell there will be a problem because the ring is very 'tinny'. I can hear the person answer and speak but they cannot hear me at all. I then put Dutty's ROM on the phone thinking maybe it was a stack issue that might have been resolved in a new ROM (assuming their had been updates to the BT stack). That did not make any difference.
I will by tomorrow test my corporate Blackberry in the car again. I had used it in the car via bluetooth while I had the Hermes - no problem. I will retest now that the Tilt isn't working.
Have any of you contacted Infiniti and / or AT&T? I could only assume until they have a quantity of calls will they say anything other than "not our problem" or, "never heard of that before".
If there are others with this problem it would be good for them to acknowledge their experience here along with any comparative good/bad feedback with other phones in the same and different car / devices.
Update: I've just tested my Blackberry 8700 that worked prior to pairing the Tilt with the G35. I can confirm that the Blackberry still works flawlessly. As the Tilt also works flawlessly with my Garmin device I think the cause is unclear but would appear to be with the Tilt as it is the only thing that has changed in the tests I've identified above.
Regards,
David

minirx7 said:
Did you not read my post? I have a Tytn 2 and a 2007 G35 sedan with the exact same problems as you.. Just use the Talk button on your phone to receive calls..
Arent you on G35drivers.com?
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well, one of the ways I use the phone also is calling out... when I dial the number and call from the phone, the car bluetooth connects and the crackling starts... (i call my voicemail to test).
besides being an Infiniti/Nissan issue, it appears it is far more widespread... there's already a 20 page thread on BT and Kaiser! from that thread it appears HTC is aware of the issue and is working on an upgraded stack/rom... everyone cross your fingers and hope that one works!

Could you provide the link to that thread?
Thanks,
David
marsb007 said:
well, one of the ways I use the phone also is
calling out... when I dial the number and call from the phone, the car bluetooth connects and the crackling starts... (i call my voicemail to test).
besides being an Infiniti/Nissan issue, it appears it is far more widespread... there's already a 20 page thread on BT and Kaiser! from that thread it appears HTC is aware of the issue and is working on an upgraded stack/rom... everyone cross your fingers and hope that one works!
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SteinyD said:
Could you provide the link to that thread?
Thanks,
David
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here ya go... hope someone finds a fix soon...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329270

Thanks .. I hope HTC truly has acknowledged the issue and is working on it. I sent an email tonight to HTC America and hope to get a favorable response soon.
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here ya go... hope someone finds a fix soon...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329270
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Multiple solutions...
I'm using Dutty's TouchFlo Final Rom and I'm not having any problems with my 2006 M. So maybe you can try that ROM.
But on the M, I did have horrible problems with my E-Ten M500+ (continous feedback...C R A Z Y), and limited functionalities with my 3125. Both of those problems were solved instantly with this software: http://www.jetwaremobile.com/ They offer 30 day trial of their software, so try it.

marsb007 said:
well, one of the ways I use the phone also is calling out... when I dial the number and call from the phone, the car bluetooth connects and the crackling starts... (i call my voicemail to test).
besides being an Infiniti/Nissan issue, it appears it is far more widespread... there's already a 20 page thread on BT and Kaiser! from that thread it appears HTC is aware of the issue and is working on an upgraded stack/rom... everyone cross your fingers and hope that one works!
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I do not have this issue with my g35... I do not get any crackling.. Its only when i try to receive calls, it delays like 10-15 seconds!!!
Making calls is NON-issue...

it really is crazy... I've tried that particular rom and it has the exact same problem. I have also tried the Jetware bluetooth stack, and once again, it does the same thing. I've tried about 5-6 different roms, from super clean roms, bigstorage, to the latest build numbers that I could find, and all do the exact same thing. I've played around with the bitpool settings, audiogateway settings, and nothing...
It may be that the combination of the G37 + Tilt just has something in there that makes it go crazy. Could be the car, but as I've said earlier, all other phones work, including the Hermes, without any problems whatsoever.
Anyone out there with a G37 willing to give the Tilt a try? I'm about to go to the dealer and pair it with other cars to see if it works!

If you have the G37 (coupe I guess?) then you have the 2008, right? I know they switched to the new hard drive based system. So maybe they don't have all the bugs worked out. Top it all off, MS's bluetooth stack is kinda shaky, so it might be amplifying the problem.
I don't see any service bulletins relating to this issue on your car either: http://x.infinitihelp.com/forum/local_links.php?catid=86 I doubt that Voice Recog system update will fix your bluetooth issues...but then it might. Worth a try.
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it really is crazy... I've tried that particular rom and it has the exact same problem. I have also tried the Jetware bluetooth stack, and once again, it does the same thing. I've tried about 5-6 different roms, from super clean roms, bigstorage, to the latest build numbers that I could find, and all do the exact same thing. I've played around with the bitpool settings, audiogateway settings, and nothing...
It may be that the combination of the G37 + Tilt just has something in there that makes it go crazy. Could be the car, but as I've said earlier, all other phones work, including the Hermes, without any problems whatsoever.
Anyone out there with a G37 willing to give the Tilt a try? I'm about to go to the dealer and pair it with other cars to see if it works!
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things, that i dislike on this phone

sorry for this post, but this is the worst sp that i had till now, and i had a few already...
battery life is horrible,not even a day of normal using, if i have few more calls,emails and some browsing...
the keyboard is not ok for me, i had a vpa compact II which had a great keyboard, which gave realy good and fast response, and why are the soft keys on the qwerty keyboard under the screen more on the left side and right if i see a menu button on the screen i want to push right under it, and not to look first wheres the button exactly
if im listening to music with any application through the earphones, it makes-that the sound is at once also playing through the phone speaker, and i have to restart
not any one usable navigation software works under it ive tested: igo, tomtom, route 66...route66 is meda for devices without touchscreen and igo doesnt worked, which is normall, but tomtom works on some other devices, with fakecursor, but not here
cell phone switcher also didnt worked
it has only 64mb ram, its enough if i listen to mp3 and scroll a little bit faster through the start menu applications, and i have a lag
if someone could help with some of this stuff, i would be really lucky.
thx

i agree it is anoying that the landscape buttons are not under the text but i love the keyboard for how small it is. my battery life is amazing. I am going on two days of email/phone/text and it still has 20% left from its charge right out of the box. I havent even opened the charger yet. and no, i turned off the feature to charge when connected to pc so it doesnt use a cycle. it is faster then my tytn ii but the screen sucks in comparison. i just needed a smaller powerhouse and this is it and works for me
as for the navigation from what I read it lacks an internal antenna and will not pick up satellites anyway. again, my tytn II has gps and works great with tomtom but I also have a tomtom in my car so i never used the cell phone gps.

Lavachild said:
i agree it is anoying that the landscape buttons are not under the text but i love the keyboard for how small it is. my battery life is amazing. I am going on two days of email/phone/text and it still has 20% left from its charge right out of the box. I havent even opened the charger yet. and no, i turned off the feature to charge when connected to pc so it doesnt use a cycle. it is faster then my tytn ii but the screen sucks in comparison. i just needed a smaller powerhouse and this is it and works for me
as for the navigation from what I read it lacks an internal antenna and will not pick up satellites anyway. again, my tytn II has gps and works great with tomtom but I also have a tomtom in my car so i never used the cell phone gps.
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im using now as navi in car my vpa, but i would like also to use the s730, cause when im in a strange town, it is not so comfortable to take two phones...

if you only use in the car then just buy a tomtom!

Lavachild said:
if you only use in the car then just buy a tomtom!
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why should i? i want to use s730 as a navigation like other people are doing it with their smartphone, cause on their sp it is working fine...and i dont want an another device...

Battery Life: I use this all day for email communication, browsing, and phone without a problem (i'm 100% in the field for work). Note that I'm in the US, so I'm not using the 3G.
Keyboard: Keyboard is fine and is taking quite a bit of abuse from me (see above). Although, I agree that if they made a keyboard that tapped into my brain and guessed what keys I was going to hit next, wirelessly, it would be much better. I hear Motorola is working on that.
Music: I'm guessing you're using an ExtUSB adapter, or the included headphones, and you're stating that, while you're listening to music, after the connection is lost and regained with the ExtUSB headphones, you can't get the music to only come out of the headphones. It will come out of the speaker and the headphones only, until you soft reset. I had a problem that the ExtUSB plug on the included headphones wasn't hitting the piece of metal on square side of the ExtUSB port unless i pushed it in hard. After I pushed it in all the way, the metal made contact and I no longer had the "problem." The issue you're stating probably can be fixed with a call the HTC; if it, in fact, is truly an issue. Although, it makes no sense to me that this isn't simply a usage problem.
GPS Navigation: I have no problem running TomTom, or Google Maps. I tried using Route66, but it was too horrible (I couldn't look up addresses). There's always CoPilot Live 7, which looks much better than TomTom.
TomTom: TomTom is not compatible with Windows Mobile Standard/Smartphone. Therefore you can't expect it to work, ever. If it does (read last point), it's a gift. Try mapping FakeCursor with the built-in remapping feature of Windows Mobile.
Cell Phone Switcher: This not working is not the phone, the programmer just needs to update where the program gets the cell tower data from. It most likely just changed location.
RAM: I have no problem with RAM at all. I manage my tasks well, as should any user of a mobile device.
Overall, I'm dissatisfied with your arguments and the severity of your title "nothing works on this sp" is unwarranted. The only point you bring up that is actually bad, is the battery life; but, then again, that's the way it is; you know... batteries and stuff. It's very handy that HTC phones have the ability to charge via USB.

does anyone recommend a nice mobile usb charger?

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no you are not right, the headphones are correctly plugged in, there is something wrong, i dont know if i have a broken model or what, but if i make a call with headphones plugged inanad the music is playin, then after the call the music is also playin through the phone speaker.
i dont know which version of tomtom do you have. but also route 66 and ive tried:v7.0.3040.0 and 7.0.2992, on some other smartphones is the version: TomTom 6.02 working, it could also on this one. the fake cursor isnt a problem, i mapped it successfully but it just cannot simulate a click in tomtom.
so ram is ok? try to play music through coreplayer and take a photo after the phone was a few days on.
i agree with you about the title, ive changed it.

darksider said:
no you are not right, the headphones are correctly plugged in, there is something wrong, i dont know if i have a broken model or what, but if i make a call with headphones plugged inanad the music is playin, then after the call the music is also playin through the phone speaker.
i dont know which version of tomtom do you have. but also route 66 and ive tried:v7.0.3040.0 and 7.0.2992, on some other smartphones is the version: TomTom 6.02 working, it could also on this one. the fake cursor isnt a problem, i mapped it successfully but it just cannot simulate a click in tomtom.
so ram is ok? try to play music through coreplayer and take a photo after the phone was a few days on.
i agree with you about the title, ive changed it.
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Headphone: I misunderstood your issue. You've attempted to reseat the headphones? If so, I'd call HTC and let them know. Issue yes... easily solvable from a software perspective... I'd assume so. Can anyone else replicate the problem? I'll try later.
Tomtom: So FakeCursor starts, you get the crosshairs... but when you hit the center directional button... it doesn't tap? You have to keep in mind that you can only "tap" in pocket pc apps, not in smartphone apps. I don't have this problem.
RAM: I don't use CorePlayer. However, I keep my tasks in check. I also soft reset daily. I never have a problem.

not any one usable navigation software works under it ive tested: igo, tomtom, route 66...route66 is meda for devices without touchscreen and igo doesnt worked, which is normall, but tomtom works on some other devices, with fakecursor, but not here
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I'm using Route 66 mobile 7 and it works very well.
I find it useful, and I don't miss TomTom 5 I used on my old Magician.

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Headphone: I misunderstood your issue. You've attempted to reseat the headphones? If so, I'd call HTC and let them know. Issue yes... easily solvable from a software perspective... I'd assume so. Can anyone else replicate the problem? I'll try later.
Tomtom: So FakeCursor starts, you get the crosshairs... but when you hit the center directional button... it doesn't tap? You have to keep in mind that you can only "tap" in pocket pc apps, not in smartphone apps. I don't have this problem.
RAM: I don't use CorePlayer. However, I keep my tasks in check. I also soft reset daily. I never have a problem.
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no reset headphones
if i have the headphones plugged in and listen tomusic through any player, and i want to call someone, i call someone and after i finish the call the music starts to play, but also through the phone speaker
yes, tomtom is a pocket pc application.

darksider said:
no reset headphones
if i have the headphones plugged in and listen tomusic through any player, and i want to call someone, i call someone and after i finish the call the music starts to play, but also through the phone speaker
yes, tomtom is a pocket pc application.
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Have you tried to remove and reinsert the headphones? This does sound like a major problem, I'll attempt to replicate it today. In the meantime, call HTC.
yeaaaa... did you get TomTom to work?

bigflavor said:
Have you tried to remove and reinsert the headphones? This does sound like a major problem, I'll attempt to replicate it today. In the meantime, call HTC.
yeaaaa... did you get TomTom to work?
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yes i have, no thanks, i will sell the phone, im not really comofortable with

bigflavor said:
Battery Life: I use this all day for email communication, browsing, and phone without a problem (i'm 100% in the field for work). Note that I'm in the US, so I'm not using the 3G.
Keyboard: Keyboard is fine and is taking quite a bit of abuse from me (see above). Although, I agree that if they made a keyboard that tapped into my brain and guessed what keys I was going to hit next, wirelessly, it would be much better. I hear Motorola is working on that.
Music: I'm guessing you're using an ExtUSB adapter, or the included headphones, and you're stating that, while you're listening to music, after the connection is lost and regained with the ExtUSB headphones, you can't get the music to only come out of the headphones. It will come out of the speaker and the headphones only, until you soft reset. I had a problem that the ExtUSB plug on the included headphones wasn't hitting the piece of metal on square side of the ExtUSB port unless i pushed it in hard. After I pushed it in all the way, the metal made contact and I no longer had the "problem." The issue you're stating probably can be fixed with a call the HTC; if it, in fact, is truly an issue. Although, it makes no sense to me that this isn't simply a usage problem.
GPS Navigation: I have no problem running TomTom, or Google Maps. I tried using Route66, but it was too horrible (I couldn't look up addresses). There's always CoPilot Live 7, which looks much better than TomTom.
TomTom: TomTom is not compatible with Windows Mobile Standard/Smartphone. Therefore you can't expect it to work, ever. If it does (read last point), it's a gift. Try mapping FakeCursor with the built-in remapping feature of Windows Mobile.
Cell Phone Switcher: This not working is not the phone, the programmer just needs to update where the program gets the cell tower data from. It most likely just changed location.
RAM: I have no problem with RAM at all. I manage my tasks well, as should any user of a mobile device.
Overall, I'm dissatisfied with your arguments and the severity of your title "nothing works on this sp" is unwarranted. The only point you bring up that is actually bad, is the battery life; but, then again, that's the way it is; you know... batteries and stuff. It's very handy that HTC phones have the ability to charge via USB.
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I couldn't agree with you more. I could have written the above except my s730 has no gps which I don`t have any use for on a phone anyway. Ram is fine, battery is awesome for it's size and pleasently surprising. Keyboard is fine. I love the small pocketable size of this device. I'm very satisfied with it. If screen were a tad bigger it would be perfect, but then maybe not quite so pocketable...lol.....forgot to mention the RF is outstanding also.

I don't understand how you can buy a smartphone then complain that a Pocket PC application like TT6 won't work properly.
I've transferred TT5.2 from an older phone to my S730 and it works great. Probably because it's designed to?

madferret said:
I don't understand how you can buy a smartphone then complain that a Pocket PC application like TT6 won't work properly.
I've transferred TT5.2 from an older phone to my S730 and it works great. Probably because it's designed to?
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cause on other smartphones its working ,reeeead... i didnt wrote, that this sp is only terrible cause a application doesnt run on it, ive wrote more other things and just also that this applications are not runnig, whats wrong about? its my opinion, common!

darksider said:
cause on other smartphones its working ,reeeead... i didnt wrote, that this sp is only terrible cause a application doesnt run on it, ive wrote more other things and just also that this applications are not runnig, whats wrong about? its my opinion, common!
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TT6 isn't supported on any Windows Mobile powered smartphone.

moneytoo said:
TT6 isn't supported on any Windows Mobile powered smartphone.
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i knooooooooow, but some users with smartphones are runing it, and its working fine!
im sorry, that i even created a post.
holy god.

Use N1 as bluetooth GPS modul

Hi.
I had a thoughts here... It's possible to use the N1 as bluetooth GPS.

phuongpham said:
Hi.
I had a thoughts here... It's possible to use the N1 as bluetooth GPS.
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Should be do-able i think, we can access both (BT&GPS) but i think pretty useless

Use mytracks, record ur tracks then stop when ur finished and save the file n send it to ur self. There u go

Hi guys! Thanks for the feedback.
The reason i'm asking this is I have an iPad (yes it's a Apple gadget )
the Ipad doesn't have build in GPS. But I can use iPhone apps on the iPad.
So if i mount a bluetooth GPS device i can use TomTom on the iPad.
I have manage to pair a external bluetooth GPS to the iPad and TomTom works fine.
But it's easier for me to use N1 as an GPS modul.
Maybe this made more sense

phuongpham said:
Hi guys! Thanks for the feedback.
The reason i'm asking this is I have an iPad (yes it's a Apple gadget )
the Ipad doesn't have build in GPS. But I can use iPhone apps on the iPad.
So if i mount a bluetooth GPS device i can use TomTom on the iPad.
I have manage to pair a external bluetooth GPS to the iPad and TomTom works fine.
But it's easier for me to use N1 as an GPS modul.
Maybe this made more sense
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Not to flame, just curious! How is it more convenient to use the ipad as a gps unit? Why not just use google nav? I could see it being super useful if you have say a nice sturdy car mount for your ipad but thats about all i can think of.
Oh, just noticed youre not in the US :\ is google nav not enabled in your country?

Hi Mike.
The reason i want to use tomtom is i like tomtom
The second reason is it support offline maps, local POI etc. etc. etc.
My plan is not to use the iPad as a main GPS unit in my car
But I like to explore new stuff.. so it would be nice if that was possible to do.

phuongpham said:
Hi Mike.
The reason i want to use tomtom is i like tomtom
The second reason is it support offline maps, local POI etc. etc. etc.
My plan is not to use the iPad as a main GPS unit in my car
But I like to explore new stuff.. so it would be nice if that was possible to do.
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Ahh i see that screen would make an awesome nav unit hehe. You would probably need a developer to make an application to use it as a bluetooth gps. Since it will probably need root to run it might be harder to find a developer since these things are harder to sell :\

[Q] External GPS

Has anyone experience with the connection of the galaxy with a bluetooth GPS ? My car's windows are provided with a heat shield made of a metal film, i can only use a bluetooth GPS in my cars GPS windows.
I would use Sygic.
I'm now using a HTC Touch Pro WM6.5 and it works fine with a Bluetooth GPS
I contacted Samsung with my question but the only answer i got was that i had tot contact route 66 ???
The bluetooth GPS is for me the point to buy a galaxy or not<;

Don't buy any android phone, far as I know, bt gps not supported on android. May be some workarounds for specific programs.
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Bynar010 said:
Don't buy any android phone, far as I know, bt gps not supported on android. May be some workarounds for specific programs.
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Its a pity that android does not suport external gps.. I'd like to use that too. (I just got a Galaxy S).
I think the galaxy S has a socket for gps antenna on the back (under the cover).. so you can at least try to plug in one of those 5€ ebay gps 1.5ghz antennas to improve signal. Just put the magnetic box on the roof of your car.

As I've replied in the GPS Poll thread, I believe TrekBuddy supports external GPS just fine, so I wouldn't think it's Android limitation rather than a choice of the programmers of most apps - IMO they just don't bother supporting external GPS when there's not a single Android device that doesn't have internal...(I guess).

I guess you got a point when you say that all Android devices have a gps chip embedded. But I sill think it's an Android limitation not supporting an external gps.
On Symbian devices, you just have to say 'use bluetooth gps' in your application once you've paired it.
In WinMo the internal gps has a com port, so does the external when you hook it up. Again you tell the gps software which com port it has to use.
This kind of association does not exist inside Android. You can hook up a external GPS, but no program will access it. The OS itself doesn't have access to it.
BTW I looked this up, but I could not find what chip goes inside the SGS. Is it SirfStar III? Can anyone confirm?

guibao said:
BTW I looked this up, but I could not find what chip goes inside the SGS. Is it SirfStar III? Can anyone confirm?
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It is a Broadcom BCM 4751 chip. Designed on a friday afternoon, after a long, well-wined lunch. Or so I heard. But I hear a lot of nonsensical rumours.

Beowulf_pt said:
It is a Broadcom BCM 4751 chip. Designed on a friday afternoon, after a long, well-wined lunch. Or so I heard. But I hear a lot of nonsensical rumours.
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Beowulf_pt did you manage to redirect data from external GPS?
I can read data with "bluetooh GPS" aplication but i did not find any redirect software.
I have a Hollux receiver that say's 10 satelites in use rather then 8 of the galaxy.

jllb said:
Beowulf_pt did you manage to redirect data from external GPS?
I can read data with "bluetooh GPS" aplication but i did not find any redirect software.
I have a Hollux receiver that say's 10 satelites in use rather then 8 of the galaxy.
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You got me wrong. I'm not trying to use the BT GPS with the SGS as that is currently not possible in android. No native stack support nor navigation apps that use the units over the internal GPS. Only that little experimental app that reads NMEA data but has no real use. I hope Android gets this in 3.0 but I doubt it.
What I will try to do with the Samsung is to connect it to an external amplified GPS antenna (1.5 GHz) via the connector on the back of the samsung (net to the SIM card).
I have not recieved the antenna yet so I can't comment... but it should at least provide some better SNR results.
PS: I also have a Holux. It is quite nice, I use it a lot with my Nokia E72 and it works fine unlike the SGS
guibao said:
I guess you got a point when you say that all Android devices have a gps chip embedded. But I sill think it's an Android limitation not supporting an external gps.
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I can understand their decision not to invest time in this as all android devices have an internal GPS... but time has proven that that is a bad idea as many units have really poor GPS. The Galaxy S is probably the worst of them all.
Without the ability to use an externa receiver you're pretty much screwed... no alternatives at all.

Guys,
Did any one try this app ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7703266#post7703266

jllb said:
Guys,
Did any one try this app ?
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7703266#post7703266
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this is the site of the developer :
mobile-j.de/snipsnap/space/start
wonder if it's works well, pitty it doesn't support sygic and others ....

Guys a new application is on the market and for free ...
Check Bluetooth GPS Mouse
Work but in my case a bir of lag sometimes ..

jllb said:
Guys a new application is on the market and for free ...
Check Bluetooth GPS Mouse
Work but in my case a bir of lag sometimes ..
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The free version is a trial, it disconnects every 10 minutes or so. The full version is 1.99€.
I tried the free version with two of my bluetooth devices (Holux M1200 and ncs-navi 150), seems to work fine with both.
BTW, with JM7+voodoo fix combination, the internal GPS has been quite satisfactory so far (touching wood...)

Has anyone experience with this application yet ?

Bluetooth gps seems to have a bug. It seems to update it's location and after that sgs will give its location, what happens is that it starts switches between the two locations every second
If you turn gps location service off from android settings, the lag is gone.
However, an app named "gps provider" does not lag in the same way. I think bluetooth gps mouse app will have updatea, where this problem will be fixed.
Other than that the location is very precise using an Nokia LD-W3 bluetooth gps.
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i'm using the bluetooth gps mouse with sygic mobile maps and it works perfectly. I did'nt hope it was working that nice.

rogo-1 said:
The free version is a trial, it disconnects every 10 minutes or so. The full version is 1.99€.
I tried the free version with two of my bluetooth devices (Holux M1200 and ncs-navi 150), seems to work fine with both.
BTW, with JM7+voodoo fix combination, the internal GPS has been quite satisfactory so far (touching wood...)
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What you mean with "quite satisfactory"? Does the internal GPS get a fix without A-gps support? I mean without being online?
I use GPS Bluetooth mouse unlimited on a daily basis with Motonav , Sygic or Navigon.
Internal gps receiver AND Mobile networks( A-gps) are disabled on my sgs.
My external gps receiver got a sirfstarIII chipset . In a hot start I get a fix in less than 20 seconds. Otherwise 4 to 6 minutes in a cold start.
Once again no need for internal gps receiver and / or A-gps (celular network) for for a fast and stable satellite fix. Pure GPS navigation pleasure...
Offline GPS navigation = Freedom
And it rocks on my super-Amoled gs screen!!!

Nook Color as a GPS - Hands On Video

My Nook Color just won't stop to impress me. I knew it can be used as a GPS unit, but I haven't taken the time to try it out, but I finally did it:
I am now seriously thinking of creating a car mount for it using Shapeways ...

Let people know if you get something generic done for a car mount for the Nook I am sure there would be some takers on here if the price is not too bad

It would look cooler in satellite view...
Also, for my fellow newbies, this requires a connection to a GPS unit or GPS-equipped cell phone, because the Nook does NOT have a GPS chip.

Nook Car Mount
There's a nice car mount over on ebay. Just search for "car mount holder docking station for noble nook color". I would post a photo and link, but am a new forum member and not allowed to do so until I have 8 posts.

impressive, I should have my NC by the end of the week, can't wait!

This is great... but it uses the GPS signal from a rooted Android phone, and over wi-fi, correct?
Has the community figured out a way to pair a rooted Nook with one of the many Bluetooth GPS receivers (those hockey puck devices)?

Heck yeah, always so annoyed to have my phone tied up by the GPS when im driving, hellooooooooo solution. Even better: no battery drain on bluetooth!

how do i pair this with my iPhone?
Bluetooth or wifi?

This is great... but it uses the GPS signal from a rooted Android phone, and over wi-fi, correct?
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Correct.
Has the community figured out a way to pair a rooted Nook with one of the many Bluetooth GPS receivers (those hockey puck devices)?
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I read from another forum that someone already got Bluetooth GPS to work using this app:
http://market.android.com/details?id=googoo.android.btgps
However, he complaint that the BT receiver has to be right next to the Nook Color for it to work, so it may not be the best setup.

how do i pair this with my iPhone?
Bluetooth or wifi?
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Sorry, the short answer is I don't know.
Technically, it's possible because all it needs is a server on your iPhone, and a client on your Nook Color. But I couldn't find one that work across platform. If you know how to programme, it shouldn't be too difficult to write one.
As for Bluetooth support, it's possible -- I did not try it myself personally, but as I said in an earlier post, I've heard a success story from another forum.

Software
What mapping software is running on the nook? Is it doing the vocals? I bought a Haicom HI-408BT to use bluetooth gps. I need to see about a good mapping software to go with it.