Here's the story of how a once forgotten Nook Color got it's mojo back.
I pretty much gave up on my NC as a useable device a couple months ago. I need a back button always available. I tried softkeys but it never really worked right. It was just too cumbersome. I did the dual boot and actually liked the Honeycomb solution of always having the status bar on the bottom. But it was still just a hack job dual boot bleah...and HC doesn't really have that much app support.
I have a Windows 7 64bit box so creating those bootable SD cards was pretty much impossible...so I was stuck.
I purchased a woo-Tab (a woot G-Tablet). ROMing it was really easy and I plowed around for a couple days until I discovered CM7 with tablet tweaks. Holly Schmolly...what a revolution! froyo-like app support, and the conveniences of always having the back and menu buttons available .... right there...at the bottom ....where it belongs.
I stumbled across this thread in the NC development forum while looking for another CM7TabTweaker ROM for my gTab. hmmmm ... tablet tweaks...on the NC...I had a mission...and my NC will self destruct in 7 seconds.
So I went on a mission to get CM7TabTweaks on my NC. tried the bootable SDcard crap again like 5 times...no joy...then I found a thread that gives 5 (or so) easy ADB steps to get the new CWMod with the proper ext-4 stuff......so I tried it....and it worked.....
ALMOST HOME!
I can't tell you how excited I was....my hands were shaking...I was having the flop sweats, as those beautiful words came across my screen
CM tablet tweaks [tt.RC2] 07.04.2011#2 is installing
it seemed like and hour....then it booted...and that beautiful skateboarding blue boy came across my screen....being a pretty long toothed ROMer, I was patient, first boots always take some time...but 20 minutes! CRAP! I'm bootloopy!
back into recovery I go..."DOCTOR, DATA WIPE! STAT!.....and get me 200 cc's of Delv cache wipe..."
"The patient is wide open doc....should we just replace the heart?"
"It couldn't hurt nurse....RE-INSTALL!"
"but doctor....we didn't backup!"
"SCOTTIE! I NEED MORE POWER!"
ok now i'm mixing my movie/daytime drama metaphors....but you get the point....
so I reinstalled the ROM again....the skateboarding blue beauty came up...and.....the wife walks in and starts yammering on about something. Now all you ROMers know, that our wives pretty much think we love our devices more than them. I now try to put the device down when my better half walks in the room.
So when the Beautiful Janny is came in and started telling me a story...I put down the NC with the blue skateboarding Andy. I listened intently, trying VERY hard not to look down at the device.
When I looked down....it was like I could hear angles singing. A soft glow, was emanating from my Nook Color....there it was....a home screen....with that beautiful Tablet Tweak status bar on the bottom.
I mean...holy usefulness DroidMan ...
The moral of this story.
EVERYONE.........GET YOUR TABLET TWEAKS NOW!
It's worth any pain and suffering and wifey stories you have to endure.
Thanks for listening. Just had to share.
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Here's the story of how a once forgotten Nook Color got it's mojo back.
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Thanks for listening. Just had to share.
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thanks for the narrative lol, but how about more stepbystep of the actual install process dude? im thinkin about getting a NC to overclock and load up honeycomb, but it just seems laggy even oc'd...
i love how responsive my phone is.. so even with a bigger screen, lots of lag would just piss me off. so how well does it work with the tabtweaks?
I'll add step by steps in a while...gotta get some work done
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thanks for the narrative lol, but how about more stepbystep of the actual install process dude? im thinkin about getting a NC to overclock and load up honeycomb, but it just seems laggy even oc'd...
i love how responsive my phone is.. so even with a bigger screen, lots of lag would just piss me off. so how well does it work with the tabtweaks?
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Here's what I did. Works like a charm. Next to no lag. I love it.
I don't mean any disrespect, but I guess i never got all the hype about the "Tablet Tweaks" mod. I am running it right now, and yes, it adds some nice buttons, but certainly doesn't revolutionize the device. I mean, it does nothing more than put button savior into the toolbar, and allow you to hide it in some cases.
That said, i guess i can't complain about any good dev effort on the nook; the community here is great, and I will take whatever we can get..
I think it's really just more the principle that it makes it one more step closer to being a full fledged tablet. Is it 100% need? Not really, but it does help keep the device looking cleaner and in some cases running smoother.
I like it a lot and feel like it's a very good alternative to Honeycomb.
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I don't mean any disrespect, but I guess i never got all the hype about the "Tablet Tweaks" mod. I am running it right now, and yes, it adds some nice buttons, but certainly doesn't revolutionize the device. I mean, it does nothing more than put button savior into the toolbar, and allow you to hide it in some cases.
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Personally I wasn't a fan of Button Savior or Softkeys. They never worked quite right on my NC and I was constantly calling up the buttons by accident when I meant to hit something on the edge of the screen.
CM7 initially having the extra buttons at the top was a godsend for me; all the other CM7 goodies were just frosting on the cake. Mad-Murdock's implementation of the buttons and moving them to the bottom pretty much ensured CM7 will be the only ROM I need until Honeycomb officially shows up.
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Now all you ROMers know, that our wives pretty much think we love our devices more than them.
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Ain't that the truth.
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I guess there's a debate about how useful TabTweaks is....
I'll tell you this...I never would have handed my NC to The Beautiful Janny for her to use. She would have been soooooo frustrated after about 10 seconds. The Beautiful Janny is a techno phobe...it's takes all of my "head of household" power to keep her from going *choke* *cough* *gag* *apple*.
But I still want her to enjoy this amazing device.
Now, I just have to point to the back button, the home button and the menu key and say.
- Press that to go Back,
- That one to go to the main page,
- This one to get options where-ever you are.
Now I can hand her the device, give her those three simple instructions, and let her explore.
I'm very excited for The Beautiful Janny...and for me....and everyone else who TabTweaks their NC.
LONG LIVE CM7TabTweaks!
Anyone who thinks the CM7 tablet tweaks is just Button Savior on the status bar should delete their xda account.
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Anyone who thinks the CM7 tablet tweaks is just Button Savior on the status bar should delete their xda account.
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Obviously directed at me, so i will respond. Aside from adding perm soft buttons (like button savior), the ability to hide/show soft buttons on top of full screen apps (like button savior), the only new functionality is the ability to move the bar to the bottom (ok, but not earth shattering). The softkeys being added to the power menu is worthless to me, but i guess also worth a mention.
I am not trying to be rude to the dev, but people making this out to be earth shattering are crazy to me. Button Savior has been doing this for me for months, so i just don't get the excitement. Yes, i use RC2 of TT, simply because its the newest in code, and i like to keep up. But CM7 felt great before, and this really didn't rock my world... sorry.
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Yeah, tbh, I don't get it either. I hated using both button savior and softkeys.
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It always felt like a burden, even if only a slight one, to have to pop-out the softkeys and then finally press the button I want. I could never place the pop out button where I wanted it and I was constantly accidentally hitting it. Since this really was one of the few things that constantly reminded me that I wasn't using a device meant to be a tablet (sounds silly, perhaps but still true) I was extraordinarily excited to have all those issues fixed in one fell swoop.
These mods fit like a glove. By comparison, Button Savior and Softkeys fit like a cloth tied around your hand (no disrespect to their authors).
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Obviously directed at me, so i will respond. Aside from adding perm soft buttons (like button savior), the ability to hide/show soft buttons on top of full screen apps (like button savior), the only new functionality is the ability to move the bar to the bottom (ok, but not earth shattering). The softkeys being added to the power menu is worthless to me, but i guess also worth a mention.
I am not trying to be rude to the dev, but people making this out to be earth shattering are crazy to me. Button Savior has been doing this for me for months, so i just don't get the excitement. Yes, i use RC2 of TT, simply because its the newest in code, and i like to keep up. But CM7 felt great before, and this really didn't rock my world... sorry.
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I feel the same way but perhaps I'm a little biased
dalingrin said:
I feel the same way but perhaps I'm a little biased
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I ditched button savior for the tweaks. Was kinda confused. BS was closed-source, but based on softkeys which is GPL'd? Or am I smokin' crack?
I will agree with the OP (great narrative by the way, you must be in sales).
CM7TT makes the Nook feel like a turn key tablet for me. I was using softkeys on rooted stock and it felt cumbersome to operate.
AdamT.
What's battery life on it?
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I will agree with the OP (great narrative by the way, you must be in sales).
CM7TT makes the Nook feel like a turn key tablet for me. I was using softkeys on rooted stock and it felt cumbersome to operate.
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I'm a geek...project manager...and you, sir, are clearly brilliant because
CM7TabTweaks Rock the House!
I've always hated SoftKeys. Button Savior was a relatively clean workaround, but pressing two buttons to get the one I wanted gets to be a little more bothersome than I like. Tablet Tweaks just feels natural, as if that's how it was supposed to be the whole time.
Further, there's more to TT than just the softkeys. The long-press hardware button mapping is great. I can't wait 'til the Volume Button mapping comes back since it was just plain handy in a variety of situations that you wouldn't think of until they came up.
the best part for me is that now everything is completely under my control.
i can have lots of buttons or none, have a status bar at all times or toggle it on and off while in full screen apps. it completely replaces a third party solution and i don't even have to map my volume keys... although if i want to map them the option will be right there without having to install anything.
not to mention all of this was done quickly and with user input. i'm also sure that this is just the beginning of something much bigger
thanks again to MM and all the people here making the nook better.
Related
Stumbled across this nice little app called "Itching Thumb" (Link goes to android zoom for overview http://tinyurl.com/29p9g8x)
It is a task manager that looks like the "card view" that some maybe familiar with from Palm.
It looks nice, runs smooth. been installed for a couple hours, no FC's. Thought others would like to know of this.
I tried this and really liked it. The one thing I couldn't stand was when you hit home from any app, it would take an extra second or two and show a black screen in order to create the screenshot for Itching Thumb. Annoying.
InsaneJester17 said:
I tried this and really liked it. The one thing I couldn't stand was when you hit home from any app, it would take an extra second or two and show a black screen in order to create the screenshot for Itching Thumb. Annoying.
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ya i saw this last night and decided to give it a try. it has a LOT of potential, but im gonna wait for it to be a little bit more polished. i also wish you could get it to work by long pressing home somehow so if you have it, it actually does replace the stock one. (unless i was missing something and you can long press home with it somehow)
Wish it had the flick to end apps like on webOS though. I'm sticking with powerstrip app. It was money well spent
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Wish it had the flick to end apps like on webOS though. I'm sticking with powerstrip app. It was money well spent
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This actually does the flick to end.
It would be nice to have it hit on a long press. All who use should msg the developer to see that added in a further build. Once more bugs are ironed out, I would totally pay for this. Its pretty solid so far. just minor kinks
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/...ical-question/page__view__findpost__p__118284
Awesome. Straight from ciwrl. Also inquired on Twitter and he and TheDude confirmed they already have CM7 booting and running on the NC.
What's the over-under? A month?
Awesome news, the community support for the device is amazing.
CM7 on my Nook? That is going to rock!!
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Sure, it's awesome. Not every device catches attention of the best gurus of Cyanogen, and CM7 on NC within a striking distance (boots and runs already) is beyond. In my article http://fineoils.blogspot.com/2011/01/nookcolor-on-its-road-to-android-23.html dated Jan 3 I never hoped it will happen so soon.
Hopefully, this NC CM7 port will bring all the power of VOME engine into video playing, less buggy Adobe Flash 10.x with full HW acceleration, HD YouTube, better 2D/3D HW accelerated drivers. Then, only RIM BB PlayBook can beat it.
CM on my Nook?? If this thing gets any better I may explode lol. It has almost replaced everything I take to class. Once I get a good stylus for it, then I don't need anything else
That's great. Didn't think they'd start on it so fast.
Curious why all the excitement about CM... What's the big deal? What does it give you that autonootering doesn't?
Awesome!!! Can't wait!!
@above poster:
I think gingerbread will simply make the nookcolor speed up a bit...
Useful for games.
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Curious why all the excitement about CM... What's the big deal? What does it give you that autonootering doesn't?
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CM7 is based on Android 2.3 (Gingerbread), rather than our current 2.1 (autonooter) and 2.2 (nookie froyo) options.
CM itself also includes hundreds of kernel tweaks and customization options that dramatically improve just about every aspect of Android.
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I hope they bake in some sort of button bar at the bottom of the screen. With the lack of phyical buttons the bar along the bottom is nice for the menu and back button.
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I hope they bake in some sort of button bar at the bottom of the screen. With the lack of phyical buttons the bar along the bottom is nice for the menu and back button.
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Did you know that you can also slide your finger from right to left across the notification bar at the bottom to function as a back button? This is true even of a stock NOOKcolor.
aludal said:
Sure, it's awesome. Not every device catches attention of the best gurus of Cyanogen, and CM7 on NC within a striking distance (boots and runs already) is beyond. In my article http://fineoils.blogspot.com/2011/01/nookcolor-on-its-road-to-android-23.html dated Jan 3 I never hoped it will happen so soon.
Hopefully, this NC CM7 port will bring all the power of VOME engine into video playing, less buggy Adobe Flash 10.x with full HW acceleration, HD YouTube, better 2D/3D HW accelerated drivers. Then, only RIM BB PlayBook can beat it.
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I disagree. The Playbook will be more expensive and depend on a Blackberry for much of its email/calendar access, while the NC under CM7 will have native Exchange access. That is clutch and a must-have for me.
Would love to see CM7 on my Nook! I just installed Build 1 on my Motor Droid and love it!
~Ryan
aludal said:
Sure, it's awesome. Not every device catches attention of the best gurus of Cyanogen, and CM7 on NC within a striking distance (boots and runs already) is beyond. (removed the advertising) I never hoped it will happen so soon.
Hopefully, this NC CM7 port will bring all the power of VOME engine into video playing, less buggy Adobe Flash 10.x with full HW acceleration, HD YouTube, better 2D/3D HW accelerated drivers. Then, only RIM BB PlayBook can beat it.
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Video acceleration and bluetooth would make all the difference.
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Did you know that you can also slide your finger from right to left across the notification bar at the bottom to function as a back button? This is true even of a stock NOOKcolor.
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Dude! No way! That is awesome! I had no idea. Thank you!
Sent from my Nook Color.
I suspect the nootered community will have a version of 2.3 Gingerbread long before stock users get a version of 2.2 Froyo going. I have serious doubts that 2.2 is ever going to come to the stock NC.
I also installed the latest CM7 build on my Moto droid, and having it on my NC would be INCREDIBLE. Not only do we get all the little tweaks CM gives us, but Gingerbread looks like it brings quite a bit to the table by itself. see HERE for major changes in 2.3.
natoe33 said:
Dude! No way! That is awesome! I had no idea. Thank you!
Sent from my Nook Color.
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bad thing is that the notification bar isn't there on all apps.
madsquabbles said:
bad thing is that the notification bar isn't there on all apps.
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If you go to the market and download Button Savior it gives you access to buttons in all apps. It is very nice and much better than Soft Keys imo.
Soft Keys is better, actually, when configured right. Change it so Run as Service is unchecked, and change the Nook button to launch SoftKeys. When I'm at a place where I need a menu or a Back option, just a quick push of the Nook button and I not only get a back and a menu button, but a task switcher, as well. Very handy.
I have to say, my experience so far with getting my NC up and running with CM7 has been very positive so far. I'm running it from the SD and OC @ 1.1ghz. Just a great experience all around. I'm still considering a Xoom somewhere down the road but no rush now.
I wasn't going to buy it as I had a Kindle but I have to say, this really has so much more potential, I just couldn't say no.
Anyways, just wanted to pass along my positive experience and look forward to learning a bunch more from all the smart people around here.
I'm gonna add a question here as I don't want to make another thread.
One thing I'm slightly frustrated with, and really it's very minor, I have some difficulty with swiping through menus and accidentally selecting whatever happens to be at the location I start my swipe.
For example: When I'm scrolling through a web page, I'll press somewhere close to the bottom and drag up to scroll down the page. For some reason, this typically will launch a link if that happens to be around where my finger touches the screen initially. Or if I'm in 'Settings' and scrolling through the screen to go further down, this usually opens a misc option or checks/unchecks a box, etc. I don't know what else to do but is there a setting or something that will stall the OS from reacting so quickly?
If I click and hold, then drag, it seems to work ok. But this is something that's not really natural to me. I'll say now that I've used an iPhone and iPad and never had this type of quirky/touchy response. Is it just me?
Yea BN missed the boat. They could if given it full aosp android and probbley spent less software development money and charged more money.
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Do you use your stock BN home? It is laggy but I overclocked with Dal's 1.1 oc kernel for bn 1.2 and now things are snappy! I also use Phiremod 6.2 from sd which is a rocket!
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Kadin said:
I'm gonna add a question here as I don't want to make another thread.
One thing I'm slightly frustrated with, and really it's very minor, I have some difficulty with swiping through menus and accidentally selecting whatever happens to be at the location I start my swipe.
For example: When I'm scrolling through a web page, I'll press somewhere close to the bottom and drag up to scroll down the page. For some reason, this typically will launch a link if that happens to be around where my finger touches the screen initially. Or if I'm in 'Settings' and scrolling through the screen to go further down, this usually opens a misc option or checks/unchecks a box, etc. I don't know what else to do but is there a setting or something that will stall the OS from reacting so quickly?
If I click and hold, then drag, it seems to work ok. But this is something that's not really natural to me. I'll say now that I've used an iPhone and iPad and never had this type of quirky/touchy response. Is it just me?
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I had this same problem until I installed a screen protector and it solved all of my touch screen issues!
Jimbo67 said:
I had this same problem until I installed a screen protector and it solved all of my touch screen issues!
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Interesting... I never thought about that. If I may ask, where did you get it and how much was it? Does it take away much from the image quality?
Garoto1973 said:
Do you use your stock BN home? It is laggy but I overclocked with Dal's 1.1 oc kernel for bn 1.2 and now things are snappy! I also use Phiremod 6.2 from sd which is a rocket!
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I use the stock 1.2 without any type of modifications. I haven't found the need to do much to it as it runs pretty smooth. Although I maybe only run that mode 10% of the time, if that...
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Interesting... I never thought about that. If I may ask, where did you get it and how much was it? Does it take away much from the image quality?
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I picked up an anti-glare screen protector on Amazon.com, but I can't remember which one it was. I bought it mainly to just protect the screen from scratches, but it really cuts the glare and doesn't show fingerprints as easily as the bare screen.
It doesn't degrade image quality at all, although I bumped up the screen's brightness just a hair to compensate.
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tjsooley said:
Yea BN missed the boat. They could if given it full aosp android and probbley spent less software development money and charged more money.
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IDK, the stock interface is accessible for the computer-illiterate and the hardware configuration is equally accessible for all levels of power-users. I pretty much forgive all shortcomings in the stock OS because B&N made no effort to lock me into using it, aside from withholding the magazine and kids book functionality in their Android Market app.
Wanted to know is anyone in hero withdrawal??? And hows everyone who has upgraded enjoying the 3vo??? Cons and pros compared to hero. I chose to start this thread because if any users are due for an upgrade can get a general idea of what to expect. Also just to have some general discussion on both phones. I loved my hero it was my first android phoe before it I never knew xda existed. It all started in a sprint store when I went in to complain about how slow it was becoming and I was regretting getting the phone and since I was still under 30 days I almost swapped it for a Samsung. Then a rep pulled me to the side because I had handed him my business card the prior visit and told me have I ever heard of apps2sd. I replied no and he told me to google it. Well I went home and did just that and that's when I discovered xda and its been a blast every since. I started at 1.5 when I rooted and I've never looked back. My hero will always have a spot on my history shelf. I never knew it was possible that a little phone could do so much. And how its a whole different world on xda I mean I blew my mind on how many members were on here and that they do it all for the love. Never have I ever regretted rooting my hero and I'm glad that that sprint rep told me about apps2sd. I even went to the exact store to thank him but he was no longer there. Whish I could have showed that man the end results I think he would've been floored lol. But now getting the 3vo Im quite fond of the screen size especially because I wear glasses and I can take them off now and still read the print fine. That was one of my biggest dislikes of the hero such small print. I'm very thankful for the developer of spareparts and the rom developers for including it in most of the roms I've used. Also I like the feel of 3vo with the rubberized back the hero has hit the floor on my occasions because it lacked that feature. I like the charger port being on the side of the phone big plus IMO because it makes it easier to surff and charge at the same time. With the hero I just chose to disable the rotation because I got frustrated with having the cord in between my fingers when I wanted to surf in landscape. Also I love the fact of the 3vo's buttons on the bottom are flush and has no clicking sound. I was always afraid of to much wear and tear on the hero's button would one day catch up to me. What I don't like is the big stupid as camera button on the side I seem to activate the camera a lot and I haven't figured out a way to disable it yet. Probably can't. I liked the heros option that if you wanted the camera you had to select the camera. I love the speed of the 3vo of course. My hero was fast as hell but can't compare to it. Well that's enough for me. Any one else???
Edit: Also if ya dont mind post what apps, launcher, and themes your still using from your hero that your using on the 3vo and how they perform and your overall setup.
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I'm using most of my apps from the hero on the 3vo. However, I can't use the ex explorer. Randomly locks up. Sucks. The htc_ime works on.it too, but hugs the left screen.
Over all, the transition from the hero is frustrating a little since I can't root or anything. So there are plenty of apps that I cannot use.
Make the switch if you can. I'll post the app list during lunch chow.
I love the phone and the performance, the screen size is awsome, but the phone doesn't feel bulky like my wifes OG Evo. Contrary to Laie, I don't like the charge port on the left side of the phone. Maybe I'll get used to it, but for the last 16 months or so the Hero has sat on the charger on the right armrest of my recliner, now doing that leaves a cord hanging across my body and it just doesn't feel normal sitting on the left arm rest. Not a big fan of the camera button either. It's nice to use as a shutter button, but awkward during normal phone usage. I haven't changed much about the HTC setup yet, but I've been busy setting up the Hero for my son. What I'm not fond of, being back on a sense rom are....the 7 homescreens (I generally only use 1), the goofy 3 button sense dockbar, and the fact that the apps I've spent so much time changing out the icons for use on the Hero and resigning are installing ok, but showing up with the original unchanged icons (I haven't yet investigated why, but I'm guessing it has something to do with the difference between the MDPI and HDPI displays). So the bottom line is that I'm definately pleased with the upgrade and the power of the phone, but I find myself tiptoeing out of my son's bedroom with the Hero in hand to flash something or try something new.
I have an otter box case, so I don't notice the camera button. I don't like the usb port on the side, but they have the right angle plugs you can get so it runs along the side of the phone. My hero feels so small compared to this phone. Oh, and the speed of it is crazy. I keep trying to use the trackball to move my cursor, but am slowly remembering its there. I'm still hanging around this forum to help out if I can.
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I was overjoyed when I heard a rumor that the Kingdom was the code name for Hero 2. Turns out its not. I miss the smaller screen of the Hero. The 3VO is a big bad boy tho. Using Sense, Go SMS, Miren browser, Robo Defense, AndroXplorer, dropbox, sugar sync, zumo drive, audio galaxy, glow hockey, mobo player, news rob, spare parts, Verizon Fios DVR manager, and Zedge. With the extra horsepower of the 3VO I started using Pocket Casts (podcasts), My Beach lwp, music beta, ghostTown (if you're a music fan, check it out), amazon app store and album art grabber.
I bought my 3vo today, upgraded from my overclocked hero running the latest cm7 nightly. I miss the bulk in hand of the hero. The 3vo is big but doesn't fall to hand quite the same. The camera button is awkward as well as the usb placement for me.
The performance can't even be compared. The 3vo is blazing fast. Network is fast. Everything just feels instant. It's really hard to describe the difference coming from the hero. I kind of miss the physical keys and the menu unlock and the trackball. I definitely have the itch to root and flash this thing already.
In all honesty, I bought the phone out of excitement for something new. I could care less about the 3d features but would get so frustrated at watching my gf's droid x do things my phone just couldn't do. That was enough to justify the purchase. Will I keep it? I'm still not sure. I'm kind of hoping we get a couple of new offerings during the 30 day trial (SgsII, kingdom, photon) but overall I'm pleased at the performance.
I think I'm going to purchase a case (something I never did with the Hero) just to add to feel in hand. I'm definitely going to miss the hero, and will keep it around, but it was just beyond dated.
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I was overjoyed when I heard a rumor that the Kingdom was the code name for Hero 2. Turns out its not. I miss the smaller screen of the Hero. The 3VO is a big bad boy tho. Using Sense, Go SMS, Miren browser, Robo Defense, AndroXplorer, dropbox, sugar sync, zumo drive, audio galaxy, glow hockey, mobo player, news rob, spare parts, Verizon Fios DVR manager, and Zedge. With the extra horsepower of the 3VO I started using Pocket Casts (podcasts), My Beach lwp, music beta, ghostTown (if you're a music fan, check it out), amazon app store and album art grabber.[/QUOTE
Lol dam. That's a whole lotta aps. Lol but I will check out the amzon app store. Were can I find it should I google it??
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I love the phone and the performance, the screen size is awsome, but the phone doesn't feel bulky like my wifes OG Evo. Contrary to Laie, I don't like the charge port on the left side of the phone. Maybe I'll get used to it, but for the last 16 months or so the Hero has sat on the charger on the right armrest of my recliner, now doing that leaves a cord hanging across my body and it just doesn't feel normal sitting on the left arm rest. Not a big fan of the camera button either. It's nice to use as a shutter button, but awkward during normal phone usage. I haven't changed much about the HTC setup yet, but I've been busy setting up the Hero for my son. What I'm not fond of, being back on a sense rom are....the 7 homescreens (I generally only use 1), the goofy 3 button sense dockbar, and the fact that the apps I've spent so much time changing out the icons for use on the Hero and resigning are installing ok, but showing up with the original unchanged icons (I haven't yet investigated why, but I'm guessing it has something to do with the difference between the MDPI and HDPI displays). So the bottom line is that I'm definately pleased with the upgrade and the power of the phone, but I find myself tiptoeing out of my son's bedroom with the Hero in hand to flash something or try something new.
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Have to admit it. Its true I missed my hero so I had to pry it from my wifes kunfu grip of death and check in on how the little guy was doing. Is it me or does the scren look funny as hell after looking at the 3vo screen?? But I did want to flash the new Cm7 but she wouldnt let me lol. Man do I miss Modding
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oohaylima said:
I'm using most of my apps from the hero on the 3vo. However, I can't use the ex explorer. Randomly locks up. Sucks. The htc_ime works on.it too, but hugs the left screen.
Over all, the transition from the hero is frustrating a little since I can't root or anything. So there are plenty of apps that I cannot use.
Make the switch if you can. I'll post the app list during lunch chow.
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Yup I totally agree. I spent all that time putting together a hit list if apps and in one day most of them are useless to me now. And I can't wait to get rid of sense to much dam applications running. I DON'T EVEN USE HALF THIS SH*T lol. Its just to many dam apps. Lol
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laie1472 said:
Have to admit it. Its true I missed my hero so I had to pry it from my wifes kunfu grip of death and check in on how the little guy was doing. Is it me or does the scren look funny as hell after looking at the 3vo screen?? But I did want to flash the new Cm7 but she wouldnt let me lol. Man do I miss Modding
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The flashing urge is not quite as bad for me.....I do still have a pair of Nooks, an OG Evo, the Optimus, and the Hero in my care, but yeah.....the Hero's still my favorite even with the tiny little screen and the silver paint worn off of all the buttons and the menu button that doesn't actually press down anymore.
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I bought my 3vo today, upgraded from my overclocked hero running the latest cm7 nightly. I miss the bulk in hand of the hero. The 3vo is big but doesn't fall to hand quite the same. The camera button is awkward as well as the usb placement for me.
The performance can't even be compared. The 3vo is blazing fast. Network is fast. Everything just feels instant. It's really hard to describe the difference coming from the hero. I kind of miss the physical keys and the menu unlock and the trackball. I definitely have the itch to root and flash this thing already.
In all honesty, I bought the phone out of excitement for something new. I could care less about the 3d features but would get so frustrated at watching my gf's droid x do things my phone just couldn't do. That was enough to justify the purchase. Will I keep it? I'm still not sure. I'm kind of hoping we get a couple of new offerings during the 30 day trial (SgsII, kingdom, photon) but overall I'm pleased at the performance.
I think I'm going to purchase a case (something I never did with the Hero) just to add to feel in hand. I'm definitely going to miss the hero, and will keep it around, but it was just beyond dated.
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Totally agreed. I love my hero but I was looking forward to something new. And I couldn't pass up a dual core with 3d. I love my hero but I don't regret the change at all.
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Have to admit it. Its true I missed my hero so I had to pry it from my wifes kunfu grip of death and check in on how the little guy was doing. Is it me or does the scren look funny as hell after looking at the 3vo screen?? But I did want to flash the new Cm7 but she wouldnt let me lol. Man do I miss Modding
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Turned mine off on Friday, Haven't turned it back on. I got burnt out on having to always set everything back up after flashing a new ROM, that I finally stuck with each ROM for months at a time. All I really want is custom kernels and free hotspot and usb tethering.
It's funny you are posting this in the Hero forums. What are you trying to do? Make them all jealous!
Changed my mind.....I'm taking mine back. Can't take the stupidity in those forums, it's even worse then the Nook forums. Some guy just posted a month old link to a post that says HTC will unlock the bootloader.....Geez we didn't know
I am not getting the 3vo until august but from what I saw at the sprint store when I tried it was: THEY MADE SENSE MORE BLOATED!!! D:
I personally think that I won't be getting it until I can root/flash it before I even get home from the sprint store. >.<
I have gotten so used to not using Sense that I genuinely hate it with a passion now, so much freaking bloatware.
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Changed my mind.....I'm taking mine back. Can't take the stupidity in those forums, it's even worse then the Nook forums. Some guy just posted a month old link to a post that says HTC will unlock the bootloader.....Geez we didn't know
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all the new forums are like that im sure the 3vo brought a ton of new people to android
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Changed my mind.....I'm taking mine back. Can't take the stupidity in those forums, it's even worse then the Nook forums. Some guy just posted a month old link to a post that says HTC will unlock the bootloader.....Geez we didn't know
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There's other sites besides XDA, but most good devs are on XDA, and some of the other sites just link you back here for ROMs. Just do what I do. Don't go to General or click a thread that doesn't look good.
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I am not getting the 3vo until august but from what I saw at the sprint store when I tried it was: THEY MADE SENSE MORE BLOATED!!! D:
I personally think that I won't be getting it until I can root/flash it before I even get home from the sprint store. >.<
I have gotten so used to not using Sense that I genuinely hate it with a passion now, so much freaking bloatware.
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Every HTC phone is going to have a lot of bloat. But even with all the bloat the phone is running smooth as can be. It doesn't slow it down at all. You could put ADW or LP on it and it will run 1000 times better than the Hero.
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Lol dam. That's a whole lotta aps. Lol but I will check out the amzon app store. Were can I find it should I google it??
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Yes google Amazon app store. Its great! They offer one free paid app a day. That is how I found pocket cast.
Ghosttown, very awesome. It takes videos from youtube and streams the audio to your phone, pretty good quality too. If you search by artist it will organize all the songs by albums, given if the video exists on youtube. Tried with the Hero and it was very choppy. Works great on 3G with the 3VO.
So happy with the phone. I have a wireless N router at home where my 4G signal is kinda weak and the phone is N compatible. 4G is strong at my work.
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There's other sites besides XDA, but most good devs are on XDA, and some of the other sites just link you back here for ROMs. Just do what I do. Don't go to General or click a thread that doesn't look good.
Every HTC phone is going to have a lot of bloat. But even with all the bloat the phone is running smooth as can be. It doesn't slow it down at all. You could put ADW or LP on it and it will run 1000 times better than the Hero.
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1000 times,, I seriously doubt that... LoL
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1000 times,, I seriously doubt that... LoL
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Would you believe 800% better?
Despite the fact that it's been roughly 3 years ago we were gifted by the miracle we know as android, there has been a major paradigm shift in design among phone manufacturers; gone are the days of the once mandatory, perpetually useful, but seemingly redundant trackball.
My first smartphone was an HTC Droid Eris; although I have a much better, faster phone now, I miss the convenience of having the trackball for scrolling through web pages, photo albums, and long lists of contacts or Facebook friends.
This is a tribute to the trackball, and a call to those who design our future lifelines: offer a high quality phone with a trackball again - it is a convenient feature that takes up next to no physical space.
Please contribute to this discussion in whatever way you see fit, hopefully there are others who miss the trackball...
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I miss the trackball sometimes.
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The trackball is a tool that I think you a lot more streamlined.
For some, however, does not like, depends on the tastes!
.... I like it!
I still have one... Unfortunately I can only dream of a fancy new android so am stuck with the very old HTC hero.
Still runs alright though with an OC and villainrom.
Gonna save my pennies for the HTC One S
Anyway back on topic. I don't use the trackball often but it is useful every once and a while. Great for stopping in the right spot in an e-mail to modify an error or add some text.
Its nice having the trackball to be able to pinpoint exaxt locations in text boxes or select links in webpages with very small text. Both of the smartphones that I have owned have had trackballs (G1 and Nexus One). I'm looking for something a bit newer (leaning towards an Atrix at the moment) and it looks like I will be hard-pressed to find another with a trackball.
My first track ball was on a Blackberry Pearl, and it was great, especially since I could change the LED's and make the thing light up different colors...
But yes, I miss the trackball, mostly for when I'm trying to correct text. It's a big pain in the ass when I have to tap my screen like a moron to get at my sentence.
I also miss a hardware keyboard too.... oh G1, come back to me...
Larger touch screens and improved response took away the need of the trackball completely.
I think the implementation was rather poor on the G1. It was not made for speedy selection so much as for precision.
Not really missing it much...
Well they brought the S-Pen (aka advance stylus) back in my GNote, maybe you'll see the trackball again someday.
remember when we thought all Google phones would have a track ball and the forward hump?
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Ahhh... The track ball....
Had it on G1 and I liked it. My first Android phone and the first one with track ball. I remember that it was weird at first but after some time, you get used to it.
G1 really was something else at the time.
They support the mouseover event in webpages in Opera, with only a touchscreen there is no way to hover over an element. Physical arrow keys also work for many of the things you could do with a trackball and I never noticed how much I use the arrow keys on my Droid 3 until I go to a phone without a keyboard.