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[Idea] iPhone like scrolling in Android System?

I love my Nexus One.
What i miss is the scrolling from the iPhone OS.
You know, if you are in the settings or browser app and start scrolling until the end, it's like a smooth finish in the iPhone OS.
Anyone knows if that's possible to integrate in the Android System?
I don't have any coding skills, therefore i don't know if it's complicated to implement.
- Darky.

Could you explain, what do you mean exactly? Not everyone have an iPhone.

As soon as I saw the title of this thread I grabbed my popcorn, this is going to be good lol

Brut.all said:
Could you explain, what do you mean exactly? Not everyone have an iPhone.
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Its not that easy to explain ! You can go to youtube to see it yourself. And I agree that the scrolling system on the Iphone OS is amazing.

te_quiero_forever_girl said:
Its not that easy to explain ! You can go to youtube to see it yourself. And I agree that the scrolling system on the Iphone OS is amazing.
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I've just watched several videos, but seems I didn't run into this feature or I just didn't notice it.
I personally think that contacts-list-like scrolling in Android is just perfect, I can't imagine anything better. I could select an item from list of hundreds of items (music app) in ~5 seconds

I think what he means is that the scrolling doesn't instantly stop when you hit the bottom, it goes beyond about 10-20 pixels and then springs back.

Clarkster said:
I think what he means is that the scrolling doesn't instantly stop when you hit the bottom, it goes beyond about 10-20 pixels and then springs back.
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Ahhh, maybe I was thinking about something useful, not just looking, so I might miss it on videos

Clarkster said:
I think what he means is that the scrolling doesn't instantly stop when you hit the bottom, it goes beyond about 10-20 pixels and then springs back.
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maybe he mean kinetic scrolling

Froyo already does this.
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The iPhone has very nice scrolling, I think Androids improved in froyo but there is still that resolution/quality change when holding down to scroll of course those who are lucky enough to have never spent much time with an iphone dont really notice this as a shortcoming . But I think op wants the desktops new bounceback feature to be throughout the ui. Personally the issue I described is what I really hope gets smoothed out if anything; I dont have preference for the ops request but maybe it would be cool if implemented...then again maybe I don't actually understand the ops request.

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I'm also using Froyo (Paul's pre-rooted FRF50). It doesn't have the scrolling I described.
In fact, there is kinetic scrolling in Android, but not the same as Clarkster explained:
Clarkster said:
I think what he means is that the scrolling doesn't instantly stop when you hit the bottom, it goes beyond about 10-20 pixels and then springs back.
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That's what I miss. In HTC ROMs (with Sense), this 'scrolling' is implemented in every app (system wide).

Darkyy said:
That's what I miss. In HTC ROMs (with Sense), this 'scrolling' is implemented in every app (system wide).
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I was going to say the same, Vanilla Android needs a lot of overall UI improvements.. Google doesn't seem to be to good in that department..

Eclair~ said:
I was going to say the same, Vanilla Android needs a lot of overall UI improvements.. Google doesn't seem to be to good in that department..
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Maybe they just want to give people a choice? I don't like Sense, many people don't like it. Currently I could buy N1, you could buy Desire and we both have, what we want. If such effects would be integral part of Android, I would have no choice.

I agree that stock Android needs a design upgrade (prob why 3.0 is slated to have a UI Refresh and they brought over that guy from Palm so obviously they are fully aware of it)
But as for the lil bounce back...to me it doesn't really matter.

I wouldn't bother trying to implement something like this until Google changes some underlying systems. Scrolling on the iPhone is definitely GPU assisted.

Darkyy said:
I'm also using Froyo (Paul's pre-rooted FRF50). It doesn't have the scrolling I described.
In fact, there is kinetic scrolling in Android, but not the same as Clarkster explained:
That's what I miss. In HTC ROMs (with Sense), this 'scrolling' is implemented in every app (system wide).
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Yes, i really love this scrolling feature on Iphone too, even though i have everything else about it lol

Brut.all said:
Maybe they just want to give people a choice? I don't like Sense, many people don't like it. Currently I could buy N1, you could buy Desire and we both have, what we want. If such effects would be integral part of Android, I would have no choice.
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Um, excuse me, did I say slap Sense on top of Vanilla and be done with it? I said Vanilla itself needs a UI overhaul - it is plain, colorless, lacks design that would add to its overall "pop". And as the OP stated, it also lacks delicious eye candy such as physics. At least Sense tries to appeal to the user.. its shiny, well put together, and 'aesthetically' pleasing - its smooth and differs from Vanilla in oh so many ways.. it attempts to make users ah and ooh when they see it perform.. and no, I am not running Sense on my Nexus, while I easily have the choice to so, it hasn't yet been graced by Froyo..
Hopefully hiring Palm's UI designer will somehow better Android..

Do you mean overshoot like in the ADW launcher? Where it goes a little past the edge and bounces into place?

Kenetic snap back would be nice. With a touch screen there is no tactile feedback so visual indicators like that are quite helpful. It really feels a lot more natural than an abrubt stop at the bottom of a list. I've noticed that some parts of the system are slowly starting to add effects like that. The new launcher in 2.1 does it, and the 3D gallery does something similar as well.
There are a lot of little things about the iPhone UI that you really don't notice until they are taken away. But I don't agree that great UIs are not Google's thing. Every Google web product is super slick and simple and their chrome browser is as well. I think they are just focusing their efforts on other areas first.

If you read some of apple's patents, the kinetic snap back is patented by them so that's probably why nobody else implements it.

Task manager like the Palm Pre

Stumbled across this nice little app called "Itching Thumb" (Link goes to android zoom for overview http://tinyurl.com/29p9g8x)
It is a task manager that looks like the "card view" that some maybe familiar with from Palm.
It looks nice, runs smooth. been installed for a couple hours, no FC's. Thought others would like to know of this.

I tried this and really liked it. The one thing I couldn't stand was when you hit home from any app, it would take an extra second or two and show a black screen in order to create the screenshot for Itching Thumb. Annoying.

InsaneJester17 said:
I tried this and really liked it. The one thing I couldn't stand was when you hit home from any app, it would take an extra second or two and show a black screen in order to create the screenshot for Itching Thumb. Annoying.
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ya i saw this last night and decided to give it a try. it has a LOT of potential, but im gonna wait for it to be a little bit more polished. i also wish you could get it to work by long pressing home somehow so if you have it, it actually does replace the stock one. (unless i was missing something and you can long press home with it somehow)

Wish it had the flick to end apps like on webOS though. I'm sticking with powerstrip app. It was money well spent
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igbo_scouser said:
Wish it had the flick to end apps like on webOS though. I'm sticking with powerstrip app. It was money well spent
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This actually does the flick to end.
It would be nice to have it hit on a long press. All who use should msg the developer to see that added in a further build. Once more bugs are ironed out, I would totally pay for this. Its pretty solid so far. just minor kinks

CM7 w/TabTweaks is....HOLY AWESOMENESS DROIDMAN!

Here's the story of how a once forgotten Nook Color got it's mojo back.
I pretty much gave up on my NC as a useable device a couple months ago. I need a back button always available. I tried softkeys but it never really worked right. It was just too cumbersome. I did the dual boot and actually liked the Honeycomb solution of always having the status bar on the bottom. But it was still just a hack job dual boot bleah...and HC doesn't really have that much app support.
I have a Windows 7 64bit box so creating those bootable SD cards was pretty much impossible...so I was stuck.
I purchased a woo-Tab (a woot G-Tablet). ROMing it was really easy and I plowed around for a couple days until I discovered CM7 with tablet tweaks. Holly Schmolly...what a revolution! froyo-like app support, and the conveniences of always having the back and menu buttons available .... right there...at the bottom ....where it belongs.
I stumbled across this thread in the NC development forum while looking for another CM7TabTweaker ROM for my gTab. hmmmm ... tablet tweaks...on the NC...I had a mission...and my NC will self destruct in 7 seconds.
So I went on a mission to get CM7TabTweaks on my NC. tried the bootable SDcard crap again like 5 times...no joy...then I found a thread that gives 5 (or so) easy ADB steps to get the new CWMod with the proper ext-4 stuff......so I tried it....and it worked.....
ALMOST HOME!
I can't tell you how excited I was....my hands were shaking...I was having the flop sweats, as those beautiful words came across my screen
CM tablet tweaks [tt.RC2] 07.04.2011#2 is installing
it seemed like and hour....then it booted...and that beautiful skateboarding blue boy came across my screen....being a pretty long toothed ROMer, I was patient, first boots always take some time...but 20 minutes! CRAP! I'm bootloopy!
back into recovery I go..."DOCTOR, DATA WIPE! STAT!.....and get me 200 cc's of Delv cache wipe..."
"The patient is wide open doc....should we just replace the heart?"
"It couldn't hurt nurse....RE-INSTALL!"
"but doctor....we didn't backup!"
"SCOTTIE! I NEED MORE POWER!"
ok now i'm mixing my movie/daytime drama metaphors....but you get the point....
so I reinstalled the ROM again....the skateboarding blue beauty came up...and.....the wife walks in and starts yammering on about something. Now all you ROMers know, that our wives pretty much think we love our devices more than them. I now try to put the device down when my better half walks in the room.
So when the Beautiful Janny is came in and started telling me a story...I put down the NC with the blue skateboarding Andy. I listened intently, trying VERY hard not to look down at the device.
When I looked down....it was like I could hear angles singing. A soft glow, was emanating from my Nook Color....there it was....a home screen....with that beautiful Tablet Tweak status bar on the bottom.
I mean...holy usefulness DroidMan ...
The moral of this story.
EVERYONE.........GET YOUR TABLET TWEAKS NOW!
It's worth any pain and suffering and wifey stories you have to endure.
Thanks for listening. Just had to share.

sudermatt said:
Here's the story of how a once forgotten Nook Color got it's mojo back.
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Thanks for listening. Just had to share.
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thanks for the narrative lol, but how about more stepbystep of the actual install process dude? im thinkin about getting a NC to overclock and load up honeycomb, but it just seems laggy even oc'd...
i love how responsive my phone is.. so even with a bigger screen, lots of lag would just piss me off. so how well does it work with the tabtweaks?

I'll add step by steps in a while...gotta get some work done

infotechsailor said:
thanks for the narrative lol, but how about more stepbystep of the actual install process dude? im thinkin about getting a NC to overclock and load up honeycomb, but it just seems laggy even oc'd...
i love how responsive my phone is.. so even with a bigger screen, lots of lag would just piss me off. so how well does it work with the tabtweaks?
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Here's what I did. Works like a charm. Next to no lag. I love it.

I don't mean any disrespect, but I guess i never got all the hype about the "Tablet Tweaks" mod. I am running it right now, and yes, it adds some nice buttons, but certainly doesn't revolutionize the device. I mean, it does nothing more than put button savior into the toolbar, and allow you to hide it in some cases.
That said, i guess i can't complain about any good dev effort on the nook; the community here is great, and I will take whatever we can get..

I think it's really just more the principle that it makes it one more step closer to being a full fledged tablet. Is it 100% need? Not really, but it does help keep the device looking cleaner and in some cases running smoother.
I like it a lot and feel like it's a very good alternative to Honeycomb.

Divine_Madcat said:
I don't mean any disrespect, but I guess i never got all the hype about the "Tablet Tweaks" mod. I am running it right now, and yes, it adds some nice buttons, but certainly doesn't revolutionize the device. I mean, it does nothing more than put button savior into the toolbar, and allow you to hide it in some cases.
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Personally I wasn't a fan of Button Savior or Softkeys. They never worked quite right on my NC and I was constantly calling up the buttons by accident when I meant to hit something on the edge of the screen.
CM7 initially having the extra buttons at the top was a godsend for me; all the other CM7 goodies were just frosting on the cake. Mad-Murdock's implementation of the buttons and moving them to the bottom pretty much ensured CM7 will be the only ROM I need until Honeycomb officially shows up.

sudermatt said:
Now all you ROMers know, that our wives pretty much think we love our devices more than them.
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Ain't that the truth.
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I guess there's a debate about how useful TabTweaks is....
I'll tell you this...I never would have handed my NC to The Beautiful Janny for her to use. She would have been soooooo frustrated after about 10 seconds. The Beautiful Janny is a techno phobe...it's takes all of my "head of household" power to keep her from going *choke* *cough* *gag* *apple*.
But I still want her to enjoy this amazing device.
Now, I just have to point to the back button, the home button and the menu key and say.
- Press that to go Back,
- That one to go to the main page,
- This one to get options where-ever you are.
Now I can hand her the device, give her those three simple instructions, and let her explore.
I'm very excited for The Beautiful Janny...and for me....and everyone else who TabTweaks their NC.
LONG LIVE CM7TabTweaks!

Anyone who thinks the CM7 tablet tweaks is just Button Savior on the status bar should delete their xda account.

RoboRay said:
Anyone who thinks the CM7 tablet tweaks is just Button Savior on the status bar should delete their xda account.
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Obviously directed at me, so i will respond. Aside from adding perm soft buttons (like button savior), the ability to hide/show soft buttons on top of full screen apps (like button savior), the only new functionality is the ability to move the bar to the bottom (ok, but not earth shattering). The softkeys being added to the power menu is worthless to me, but i guess also worth a mention.
I am not trying to be rude to the dev, but people making this out to be earth shattering are crazy to me. Button Savior has been doing this for me for months, so i just don't get the excitement. Yes, i use RC2 of TT, simply because its the newest in code, and i like to keep up. But CM7 felt great before, and this really didn't rock my world... sorry.

RoboRay said:
Anyone who thinks the CM7 tablet tweaks is just Button Savior ...
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Yeah, tbh, I don't get it either. I hated using both button savior and softkeys.
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It always felt like a burden, even if only a slight one, to have to pop-out the softkeys and then finally press the button I want. I could never place the pop out button where I wanted it and I was constantly accidentally hitting it. Since this really was one of the few things that constantly reminded me that I wasn't using a device meant to be a tablet (sounds silly, perhaps but still true) I was extraordinarily excited to have all those issues fixed in one fell swoop.
These mods fit like a glove. By comparison, Button Savior and Softkeys fit like a cloth tied around your hand (no disrespect to their authors).

Divine_Madcat said:
Obviously directed at me, so i will respond. Aside from adding perm soft buttons (like button savior), the ability to hide/show soft buttons on top of full screen apps (like button savior), the only new functionality is the ability to move the bar to the bottom (ok, but not earth shattering). The softkeys being added to the power menu is worthless to me, but i guess also worth a mention.
I am not trying to be rude to the dev, but people making this out to be earth shattering are crazy to me. Button Savior has been doing this for me for months, so i just don't get the excitement. Yes, i use RC2 of TT, simply because its the newest in code, and i like to keep up. But CM7 felt great before, and this really didn't rock my world... sorry.
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I feel the same way but perhaps I'm a little biased

dalingrin said:
I feel the same way but perhaps I'm a little biased
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I ditched button savior for the tweaks. Was kinda confused. BS was closed-source, but based on softkeys which is GPL'd? Or am I smokin' crack?

I will agree with the OP (great narrative by the way, you must be in sales).
CM7TT makes the Nook feel like a turn key tablet for me. I was using softkeys on rooted stock and it felt cumbersome to operate.
AdamT.

What's battery life on it?
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I will agree with the OP (great narrative by the way, you must be in sales).
CM7TT makes the Nook feel like a turn key tablet for me. I was using softkeys on rooted stock and it felt cumbersome to operate.
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I'm a geek...project manager...and you, sir, are clearly brilliant because
CM7TabTweaks Rock the House!

I've always hated SoftKeys. Button Savior was a relatively clean workaround, but pressing two buttons to get the one I wanted gets to be a little more bothersome than I like. Tablet Tweaks just feels natural, as if that's how it was supposed to be the whole time.
Further, there's more to TT than just the softkeys. The long-press hardware button mapping is great. I can't wait 'til the Volume Button mapping comes back since it was just plain handy in a variety of situations that you wouldn't think of until they came up.

the best part for me is that now everything is completely under my control.
i can have lots of buttons or none, have a status bar at all times or toggle it on and off while in full screen apps. it completely replaces a third party solution and i don't even have to map my volume keys... although if i want to map them the option will be right there without having to install anything.
not to mention all of this was done quickly and with user input. i'm also sure that this is just the beginning of something much bigger
thanks again to MM and all the people here making the nook better.

Nook app's upper edge not responsive

This drives me nuts as my conspiracy theorist mind wants to believe B&N doesn't fix it so we keep nook stock. The issue is that as I fire up the nook app on my emmc or sd card cm7 nook color the links (shop search etc) in the upper edge are not responsive as they should. You have to press them a few times. Its not a hardware problem with edges not being responsive since the same area works fine in different apps and when running stock rom. Any idea?
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I have the same issue. I have it there and when I open my magazines, every issue appears in the same stack so I can only download the top one. It kinda sucks but I guess that's what we get for going around our warranty.
Sent from my NookColor using XDA Premium App

Try this:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.assid.android.nookrecalibrate&feature=search_result

Yeah, nook screen re-calibrate worked pretty well for me - I still have problems using the search button in the nook app, but the search button in the market works well now.

I have this same button unresponsiveness in landscape but not in portrait orientation.
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Clean screen, lock/unlock, run nook screen recalibrate, get a screen protector. All things that will help.
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I've the same issue, didn't know about the nook screen recalibration, I'll give it a try and post my results...

It doesn't work on my Nook. It's still unresponsive on the right corner. If it works for you, that's great !

My nook exhibits the same issues. NSR did not help it.

As I understand it, it's an issue with the app itself, and you can't really do anything about it. Sorry.
Rodney

A new version of the app came out on 11/3. Has anyone tried it yet?

patruns said:
A new version of the app came out on 11/3. Has anyone tried it yet?
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Updated just now, and I actually think the upper edge is a bit more responsive, I was able to hit settings, search and shop on the first try this time - it usually took me 3-4 previously. But it could just be a me thing, I'd like to see what others think.
I've run NSR, and have no screen protector.

It's definitely a software issue, but I see it mainly with the Market and Yahoo Mail apps. The problem was very bad with 1.1 and 1.2 rooted (took 10-15 tries to activate a button in the upper right corner); the problem went away when I installed Dalingren's OC kernel on 1.2 rooted, and now it's back with CM 7.1 (not as bad as originally; typically 2-3 tries to activate that upper right button).

[Q]Screen Jitter While Holding Touch

So I got the Nook HD+ a little over a month ago and have had this weird issue when touching and holding the screen "jitters" like it's sensing a constant shift in touch input. I have very green's CM on there and never tried the touch sensitivity with the native OS so not sure if it's a hardware issue, custom OS issue, or Android as a whole issue. It's kind of an annoying issue as it gets in the way of scrolling, highlighting, adding/removing widgets, etc. I've tried the touch sensitivity app thing but haven't found a good setting to get rid of it (and if anything created more problems with phantom inputs). Anyone else have this problem and find a solution?
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I've noticed the exact same thing.
I plan on reflashing back to stock at some point to test it with the stock rom.

waflsk8s said:
So I got the Nook HD+ a little over a month ago and have had this weird issue when touching and holding the screen "jitters" like it's sensing a constant shift in touch input. I have very green's CM on there and never tried the touch sensitivity with the native OS so not sure if it's a hardware issue, custom OS issue, or Android as a whole issue. It's kind of an annoying issue as it gets in the way of scrolling, highlighting, adding/removing widgets, etc. I've tried the touch sensitivity app thing but haven't found a good setting to get rid of it (and if anything created more problems with phantom inputs). Anyone else have this problem and find a solution?
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Many have reported this and it has been discussed at length in several threads. Just search for jitter.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

Here's a link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2078017&highlight=jitter

Sorry, I did a brief search but obviously not thorough enough. I apologize for posting a duplicate question. So I guess it's a Nook thing? That's a real bummer as the screen is gorgeous but if the device is borderline unusable it means nothing.

waflsk8s said:
Sorry, I did a brief search but obviously not thorough enough. I apologize for posting a duplicate question. So I guess it's a Nook thing? That's a real bummer as the screen is gorgeous but if the device is borderline unusable it means nothing.
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its got a few annoyances but its a far cry from unusable

bckrupps said:
its got a few annoyances but its a far cry from unusable
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For what I use it for it's almost unusable. I got it mainly as a portable textbook/reference; to read etextbooks and highlight/make notes (which, I'd like to digress a bit, the Kindle Android app is god awful compared to its iOS counterpart, which is ironic as the Kindle is an Android device...). Right now it's little more than a gimmicky toy with a really nice screen. I realize I'm being a bit harsh but this is the internet...

waflsk8s said:
For what I use it for it's almost unusable. I got it mainly as a portable textbook/reference; to read etextbooks and highlight/make notes (which, I'd like to digress a bit, the Kindle Android app is god awful compared to its iOS counterpart, which is ironic as the Kindle is an Android device...). Right now it's little more than a gimmicky toy with a really nice screen. I realize I'm being a bit harsh but this is the internet...
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yea no problem. I see it as a fully functional tablet myself.