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I often wonder why there are so many people spending their precious time trying to make their android phone look and feel like an IPhone.
dont get it, does not compute.
every time i see a skin or theme for the iphone on the market i puke in my mouth a little
+1. Go and get an iPony if that's what you want!
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Walking around with an Android phone to only show off an iOS theme...
It's a walking contradiction of not being an iSheep AFAIC.
The look and feel of Android is up to the individual, that's the reason Android is Android. If you don't like it tough, Apple has great UI's...it is what it is.
I do it because I can! Can any other OS emulate another? I have yet to see that.
Windows 7 and old Windows Mobile users did the same thing, it's not new
they simply want to fool iphone fans into new version of iphones
Maybe they want to see something other than their usual theme?
Other than having good looking ui elements, my phone looks nothing like ios running miui.
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The look and feel of Android is up to the individual, that's the reason Android is Android. If you don't like it tough, Apple has great UI's...it is what it is.
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That's merely an opinion, which everyone is entitled too. Frankly I hate the iOS UI, which cannot be changed on an iOS device. If I wanted to call the iOS UI something else, I'd call it the 'Fisher Price UI'.
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That's merely an opinion, which everyone is entitled too. Frankly I hate the iOS UI, which cannot be changed on an iOS device. If I wanted to call the iOS UI something else, I'd call it the 'Fischer Price UI'.
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It can be. Although not quite as flexible, it can be done with ease.
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I often wonder why there are so many people spending their precious time trying to make their android phone look and feel like an IPhone.
dont get it, does not compute.
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They do it because THEY CAN.
Im sure many people are not in a financial state to go buy a $100 or $200 dollar iphone when they can get a perfectly good android phone for "free".
There is a fan base such as 10-15 year olds who cant afford "smart" phones and are required by there finances to buy something cheaper. It is one of those things where they get to look just as cool as someone with an iPhone, its only a small idea though.
I hate iPhones as much as the next android user, so that is the viewpoint I am coming from.
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That's merely an opinion, which everyone is entitled too. Frankly I hate the iOS UI, which cannot be changed on an iOS device. If I wanted to call the iOS UI something else, I'd call it the 'Fisher Price UI'.
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Then don't use it...it's quite easy.
I personally find MIUI, which resembles IOS, superior to the stock Android interface. (Firewall, theme manager, app locker) The icons from the ICS screenshots look like they were made about 10 years ago. I really see little about Android that is particularly well designed/astetically pleasing so maybe thats why people skin their phone to look more like IOS. Design has always been Apples strong point, Google's apps have great usability but visually they have never been very impressive. They really should look for some new designers, the person responsible for the whole Tron look just isnt cutting it for me. If they wanted to go that way they should have done it properly since that movie had some of the most awesome designs.
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I personally find MIUI, which resembles IOS, superior to the stock Android interface. (Firewall, theme manager, app locker) The icons from the ICS screenshots look like they were made about 10 years ago. I really see little about Android that is particularly well designed/astetically pleasing so maybe thats why people skin their phone to look more like IOS. Design has always been Apples strong point, Google's apps have great usability but visually they have never been very impressive. They really should look for some new designers, the person responsible for the whole Tron look just isnt cutting it for me. If they wanted to go that way they should have done it properly since that movie had some of the most awesome designs.
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I completely agree with this. Polish the icons a bit and get something consistent across the OS and a thing of beauty will be born.
i agree i enjoy android's UI's way better than apple, sure apple may have a smoother display but android phones are alot newer, given the rate at which android is progressing i expect in a years time the smoothness issues and most bug fixes will be resolved
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i agree i enjoy android's UI's way better than apple, sure apple may have a smoother display but android phones are alot newer, given the rate at which android is progressing i expect in a years time the smoothness issues and most bug fixes will be resolved
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samsungs trying, but somehow I see Motorola being the ones to create the first truly smooth android experience and I can't wait
ThEiiNoCeNT said:
Im sure many people are not in a financial state to go buy a $100 or $200 dollar iphone when they can get a perfectly good android phone for "free".
There is a fan base such as 10-15 year olds who cant afford "smart" phones and are required by there finances to buy something cheaper. It is one of those things where they get to look just as cool as someone with an iPhone, its only a small idea though.
I hate iPhones as much as the next android user, so that is the viewpoint I am coming from.
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This^
In NZ, the cheapest iPhone I can buy new is a 3GS for $620. The cheapest Android I can buy is a Galaxy 5 for $160.
If I liked iOS but was poor, I'd probably do the same.
Thank god I'm neither. >.>
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really don't understand these people.
Some time ago we had somebody post his Nexus 7 review as Apple user, now i did the other way around and released an Article on my blog:
http://smartphoneblogging.com/2012/09/review-the-apple-ipad-and-ios-experience-from-an-android-users-view/
Please let me know what you think.
I also made two articles about the Nexus 7 Hardware and Jelly Bean running on the Nexus 7:
http://smartphoneblogging.com/2012/07/review-google-nexus-7-hardware/
http://smartphoneblogging.com/2012/07/review-android-4-1-jelly-bean-for-tablets-nexus-7/
Hope you like it, please let me know if there are any specific questions.
good post, i do not see ANY lag on my Nexus 7, stock, rooted.
Wheres the link to the Apple user reviewing the N7 thats what i wanna see ill read yours afterwards.
Decently fair review with only a slight hint of android bias.
I agreed with your points, but I am an Android user looking at it from an Android perspective.
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Wheres the link to the Apple user reviewing the N7 thats what i wanna see ill read yours afterwards.
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Here's the thread with the Apple user reviewing the N7. The link to the review is in the first post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1819397
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blahblahyoutoo said:
Decently fair review with only a slight hint of android bias.
I agreed with your points, but I am an Android user looking at it from an Android perspective.
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Thanks. I didn't try to hide the fact that i really like android, but tried to be fair to apple as they also have great products.
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Here's the thread with the Apple user reviewing the N7. The link to the review is in the first post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1819397
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I was lol'ing throughout that whole "review"
Great read. I agree 100% with your conclusion. iOS is a great OS but dated by todays standards. Their hardware has always been top quality and sexy. Devices also get several good years of upgrades also. Really, iOS just needs Widget support and you basically have a good Android-like iOS setup (since the Notification Drawer was already copied).
For most people, Apple gets the job done.
For me, as a hobbyist, iOS gets boring quick. I also don't like how some of the Jailbreak mods actually cost money?! Basic tasks such as reading emails, surfing, etc are easy on either platform; but things get ugly on iOS when I try to sit down to do some ACTUAL work. I work out in the field. Getting files on and off my device, on the fly, without internet or network connectivity is a MUST. I also don't like the fact that I had to sync ALL of my files and ALL of my music each time I wanted to do crap. There is absolutely no need to have 3 copies of everything (home, work, and device) just to function. I also don't like my personal files being synced on my corporate computer.
If iOS would update it's "launcher" to something a little more customizable and somehow solve the problem of iTunes (Cloud Sync maybe, ala Play Store style), I would be sold.
Also reading your initial Nexus 7 review by an iPad User, I just wanted to comment on the stupid home button/spacebar issue. Use Tablet Mode. Several roms have this built in as an option in settings. Don't screw with the initial method of DPI editing. Tablet mode puts the Nav buttons in the left corner and the Status Bars/Clock in the bottom right, clearing up the middle. EOS also now has an option to hide the dock entirely from an Option in the Power menu.
Ironically, this is what makes Android great.
Well, at least you weren't essentially saying "this design choice isn't like on Android; I don't like it".
@OP
Nice goatee.
>But i don’t understand why Apple is so focused on mimicking different materials on screen. Showing contacts in a notebook like background doesn’t look good.
It's a UI design approach called skeuomorphism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeuomorph). The rationale is simple enough: to use familiar constructs to enhance user comfort level and increase intuition of use.
An example of skeuomorphism is the "printed book" design with page-flipping animation, used in many e-book readers. Functionally, it's not needed. But by presenting the text as a familiar object which we all know how to use, it's immediately intuitive--swiping side-to-side to flip pages--and we tend to like it better out of familiarity.
Another advantage is that it allows a "3D" effect in a 2D presentation. By using real-world constructs, we can also emulate attendant characteristics, weight, speed, light-sourcing, etc. This allows us to introduce "mood", ie an emotional appeal, to the presentation. Humans are emotional creatures, and a UI won't get far by sticking only to the functional.
Like any aesthetic, it's dependent on individual tastes. Some will like it and some won't. iOS uses skeuo extensively, and there's some controversy over the issue.
http://google.com/search?q=ios+skeuomorphism
A clear contrast to iOS' skeuo use would be Windows Metro UI with its emphasis on stark lines and minimalism. It's not better or worse, per se. Aesthetic is about what you like.
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@OP
Nice goatee.
>But i don’t understand why Apple is so focused on mimicking different materials on screen. Showing contacts in a notebook like background doesn’t look good.
It's a UI design approach called skeuomorphism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeuomorph). The rationale is simple enough: to use familiar constructs to enhance user comfort level and increase intuition of use.
An example of skeuomorphism is the "printed book" design with page-flipping animation, used in many e-book readers. Functionally, it's not needed. But by presenting the text as a familiar object which we all know how to use, it's immediately intuitive--swiping side-to-side to flip pages--and we tend to like it better out of familiarity.
Another advantage is that it allows a "3D" effect in a 2D presentation. By using real-world constructs, we can also emulate attendant characteristics, weight, speed, light-sourcing, etc. This allows us to introduce "mood", ie an emotional appeal, to the presentation. Humans are emotional creatures, and a UI won't get far by sticking only to the functional.
Like any aesthetic, it's dependent on individual tastes. Some will like it and some won't. iOS uses skeuo extensively, and there's some controversy over the issue.
http://google.com/search?q=ios+skeuomorphism
A clear contrast to iOS' skeuo use would be Windows Metro UI with its emphasis on stark lines and minimalism. It's not better or worse, per se. Aesthetic is about what you like.
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Thanks for the info about skeuomorphism, didnt know that. It doesnt really change the fact that the UI looks old school IMHO compared to Jelly Bean and WP8 though. I love the windows phone approach as much as Android, but just can't get along with the iOS apps like calendar. I mean the calendar is not even looking like a nice real world calendar but an ugly one. Of course this is all a matter of taste. But I believe that older people would prepare the ios approach more often, while the younger generation which grows up with tablets and smartphones will prefer the more mordern UI of the competition.
>It doesnt really change the fact that the UI looks old school IMHO compared to Jelly Bean and WP8 though.
Yes, the main criticism of skeuo is that many of the visual metaphors used in iOS are archaic--eg rolodex--and don't resonate with younger users who have no experience with them.
IMO, visual metaphors as a whole are helpful in transitioning users from real-world knowns to the digital UI, and as such, should be employed. I don't think it's an either/or issue, but more a matter of degree, and of the appropriateness of the metaphors chosen.
Skeuo designs are rich in detail, and as said, can be imbued with emotion. MS' Metro design, by contrast, is minimalist and functional, but lacks an emotional element. While I personally favor the second approach, I think by and large people prefer the first. This is borne out by Apple users' strong loyalty to the brand, which isn't true for most any other OS/computer brands.
Cultural tastes change, and UI designs change along with them. iOS hasn't changed much since the first iPhone, and is overdue for a facelift. But Apple products have always had an emotional angle, and I doubt Apple will discard its present design for something strictly functional like Metro.
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>It doesnt really change the fact that the UI looks old school IMHO compared to Jelly Bean and WP8 though.
Yes, the main criticism of skeuo is that many of the visual metaphors used in iOS are archaic--eg rolodex--and don't resonate with younger users who have no experience with them.
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Yes, most younger people just don't care about i.e. fake leather stitching...
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IMO, visual metaphors as a whole are helpful in transitioning users from real-world knowns to the digital UI, and as such, should be employed. I don't think it's an either/or issue, but more a matter of degree, and of the appropriateness of the metaphors chosen.
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The thing that bothers me is that half of iOS can't be based on real live things, so the skeuomorphism can't be universally used in iOS which makes the UI feel inconsistent.
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Skeuo designs are rich in detail, and as said, can be imbued with emotion. MS' Metro design, by contrast, is minimalist and functional, but lacks an emotional element. While I personally favor the second approach, I think by and large people prefer the first. This is borne out by Apple users' strong loyalty to the brand, which isn't true for most any other OS/computer brands.
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Actually looking at the great metro UI and live tiles of WP i feel and see more emotion than on the iOS calendar.
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Cultural tastes change, and UI designs change along with them. iOS hasn't changed much since the first iPhone, and is overdue for a facelift. But Apple products have always had an emotional angle, and I doubt Apple will discard its present design for something strictly functional like Metro.
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I agree that this approach will be fine for a lot of people, but i wouldn't go as far to say that skeuomorphism is the only UI way to be effective regarding emotions.
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Great read. I agree 100% with your conclusion. iOS is a great OS but dated by todays standards. Their hardware has always been top quality and sexy. Devices also get several good years of upgrades also. Really, iOS just needs Widget support and you basically have a good Android-like iOS setup (since the Notification Drawer was already copied).
For most people, Apple gets the job done.
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Yep, i was really expecting some more UI changes with iOS 6 but it seems like Apple it not trying to make any big changes here...
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Also reading your initial Nexus 7 review by an iPad User, I just wanted to comment on the stupid home button/spacebar issue. Use Tablet Mode. Several roms have this built in as an option in settings. Don't screw with the initial method of DPI editing. Tablet mode puts the Nav buttons in the left corner and the Status Bars/Clock in the bottom right, clearing up the middle. EOS also now has an option to hide the dock entirely from an Option in the Power menu.
Ironically, this is what makes Android great.
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Just to clarify: the initial Nexus 7 review by an iPad user wasn't from me but another guy.
The setback is that the UI process will take priority over other tasks the OS has to handle. Just open safari and browse to a web page. Now start scrolling around the page before its completely loaded. Keep on scrolling without any break and you’ll realize that the web page won’t continue to built up until you stop scrolling around. This is the best way to show how iOS handles user input as first priority and everything else second.
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This is a very interesting Article about Apples design decisions:
http://www.fastcodesign.com/1670760/will-apples-tacky-software-design-philosophy-cause-a-revolt
>http://www.fastcodesign.com/1670760/will-apples-tacky-software-design-philosophy-cause-a-revolt
It's biased. It's an advocacy piece, and doesn't try to maintain any balance. One can glean its gist in two seconds, simply by seeing the "visual masturbation" subheading. The use of colored and inflammatory words always means a crass attempt to persuade, and the piece is true to the formula. It's not worth considering.
That doesn't mean the issue isn't worthy of consideration. I think the larger issue is that iOS is getting long in the tooth and needs an major update, as competing mobile OS'es are at parity, and even surpassing it in certain aspects.
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>http://www.fastcodesign.com/1670760/will-apples-tacky-software-design-philosophy-cause-a-revolt
It's biased. It's an advocacy piece, and doesn't try to maintain any balance. One can glean its gist in two seconds, simply by seeing the "visual masturbation" subheading. The use of colored and inflammatory words always means a crass attempt to persuade, and the piece is true to the formula. It's not worth considering.
That doesn't mean the issue isn't worthy of consideration. I think the larger issue is that iOS is getting long in the tooth and needs an major update, as competing mobile OS'es are at parity, and even surpassing it in certain aspects.
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I agree. But i found the pieces about internal apple discussions interesting. And some statements from previous apple employees.
>But i found the pieces about internal apple discussions interesting. And some statements from previous apple employees.
Those are hearsay. Even if they were true, they would be cherry-picked, given the piece's extreme slant. I disregard them out of hand.
The piece makes two claims, but never supports them with explanation or evidence. Most of it is an empty appeal to authority, ie experts, Apple insiders, et al. It doesn't add insight or clarity, only noise.
Some of the other articles concerning iOS' use of skeuomorph are more even-handed. One can make an argument that MS Metro is better than iOS--which would not be surprising, since Metro comes after, and has the benefit of hindsight.
But at the end of the day, there is no "right" way. I think the ultimate arbiter is whether iOS is "good enough," and at this point, it is, in maintaining Apple's hegemony in mobile. Every indication is that iPhone 5 and the reported iPad Mini will sell very well. That may not hold true next year, but now isn't then.
There is no hard evidence regarding the insider claims but i find it very believable that not all apple designer are big fans of skeuomorphism. Seems like a given fact.
But I'd love to read more even articles, as this one really is clearly taking sides. Can you post some links? It's a very interesting topic i want to read more about.
I see people say that you should not use Android Studio as your only IDE. I have tried searching on Google to see if you can sign / publish via Android Studio but I'm having trouble finding the answer.
Is it possible to use only Android Studio to fully code and publish an app? What problems are there with Android Studio?
Well for starters android studio isn't even 1.0 yet. It is heavily in beta and not exactly stable yet.
Eclipse is often recommended because it has a ton of documentation. Most tutorials will talk about eclipse.
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Well for starters android studio isn't even 1.0 yet. It is heavily in beta and not exactly stable yet.
Eclipse is often recommended because it has a ton of documentation. Most tutorials will talk about eclipse.
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Right. But what are the actual issues with it? Just being in beta doesn't really say much. Gmail was in beta for almost a decade.
I use Android Studio since it's been released. For simple app development, what i use for, it's good enough. You can build signed APK's. However there are always some bugs, but stackowerflow always knows the solution. I had some problems when importing from eclipse, i recommend to open a new project and copy the sourcefiles for full compatibility. I think Android Studio is better than eclipse!
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I use Android Studio since it's been released. For simple app development, what i use for, it's good enough. You can build signed APK's. However there are always some bugs, but stackowerflow always knows the solution. I had some problems when importing from eclipse, i recommend to open a new project and copy the sourcefiles for full compatibility. I think Android Studio is better than eclipse!
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Thank you. What kind of bugs were there? I'm interested to know the limitations.
Good recommendation. I'll start a fresh project and copy in my java files.
Paul22000 said:
Thank you. What kind of bugs were there? I'm interested to know the limitations.
Good recommendation. I'll start a fresh project and copy in my java files.
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So far I've used Eclipse, but for my next project I'm going to try Android Studio as well, mainly because of its much easier gradle built system so that you can create multiple versions easily. I feel that gradle, the only major difference between the two IDEs, is a bit complicated to get started but can give great results once fully understood...
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So far I've used Eclipse, but for my next project I'm going to try Android Studio as well, mainly because of its much easier gradle built system so that you can create multiple versions easily. I feel that gradle, the only major difference between the two IDEs, is a bit complicated to get started but can give great results once fully understood...
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I haven't heard of gradle. I just Googled it and saw that it is automated deployment builds for your app. Hmm, it certainly does sound confusing.
Don't know how much of regular-Java (not android) development You do - but for me personally the best IDE is the JetBrains IntelliJ (no - I'm not their employee ) - the base for Android Studio. If You look at the basic level both Eclipse / IntelliJ have pretty much the same functions - however the latter one does lots of stuff more intelligently (I'm in love with refactoring shortcuts ). I would also expect that Android Studio will be a bit more stable than Eclipse (I used to overkill it with too many plugins).
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Don't know how much of regular-Java (not android) development You do - but for me personally the best IDE is the JetBrains IntelliJ (no - I'm not their employee ) - the base for Android Studio. If You look at the basic level both Eclipse / IntelliJ have pretty much the same functions - however the latter one does lots of stuff more intelligently (I'm in love with refactoring shortcuts ). I would also expect that Android Studio will be a bit more stable than Eclipse (I used to overkill it with too many plugins).
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Interesting. I'll have to check that out. I wonder why IntelliJ isn't used more for Android Development.
Paul22000 said:
Interesting. I'll have to check that out. I wonder why IntelliJ isn't used more for Android Development.
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Hi Paul,
AndroidStudio is built using IntelliJ. I'm very new to android development (started out a month ago after almost 2 years on the xda forums decided it was time to embark!) I've been using it from the start, i have eclipse to make sure its android studio that causes any bugs instead of my code. However seasoned developers obviously don't need this back-up plan!
Hope this helps.
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Hi Paul,
AndroidStudio is built using IntelliJ. I'm very new to android development (started out a month ago after almost 2 years on the xda forums decided it was time to embark!) I've been using it from the start, i have eclipse to make sure its android studio that causes any bugs instead of my code. However seasoned developers obviously don't need this back-up plan!
Hope this helps.
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You are using Android Studio or IntelliJ? So far what bugs have you encountered that were caused by the IDE and not your code?
I've been using Android Studio as my exclusive IDE and i love it. Way better than Eclipse in my opinion.
It's a beta, but i haven't found any dealbreaker yet. Some errors have appeared (non intrusively, just a popup on the top right), but they haven't affected my workflow.
It is perfectly usable to code, compile (debug and release), sign the apks and use proguard if you want. You just need to come to grips with gradle, at least on a basic level (as i have). All the build process is managed via gradle, so Android Studio doesn't get in the way.
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It is perfectly usable to code, compile (debug and release), sign the apks and use proguard if you want.
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Ahh, great to hear!
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You are using Android Studio or IntelliJ? So far what bugs have you encountered that were caused by the IDE and not your code?
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Using Android Studio.
Bug wise i've not encountered many, One rather annoying one for me was that it is irritatingly long-winded to change your minSDKversion in AS. its no just a simple case of changing the manifest file. The actualy app developers out there will know what your developing for already, me as a beginner did not and it took me the best part of an hour googling and trying things to get it to change from api7 to api14.
I'm currently still embarking on my own reading through tutorials etc and its slow going. My aim (In case anyone is interested) is to develop a stable DAW (digital audio workstation) for android. with the ability to add notes (similar to soundcloud) and cloud backup (via dropbox hopefully unless googleDrive is the more stable connection.. working on it!) So i've had no end of strangle cod bugs crop up. But from what i can see, all others have been through my bad coding / lack of knowledge!
I'll update you with any other quirks i find along the way!
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Using Android Studio.
Bug wise i've not encountered many, One rather annoying one for me was that it is irritatingly long-winded to change your minSDKversion in AS. its no just a simple case of changing the manifest file. The actualy app developers out there will know what your developing for already, me as a beginner did not and it took me the best part of an hour googling and trying things to get it to change from api7 to api14.
I'm currently still embarking on my own reading through tutorials etc and its slow going. My aim (In case anyone is interested) is to develop a stable DAW (digital audio workstation) for android. with the ability to add notes (similar to soundcloud) and cloud backup (via dropbox hopefully unless googleDrive is the more stable connection.. working on it!) So i've had no end of strangle cod bugs crop up. But from what i can see, all others have been through my bad coding / lack of knowledge!
I'll update you with any other quirks i find along the way!
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Good to know about changing the api version, thank you. I appreciate you sharing your experiences.
I'm using Eclipse exclusively. I'll use Android Studio but the time it reaches version 1.1.
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Right. But what are the actual issues with it? Just being in beta doesn't really say much. Gmail was in beta for almost a decade.
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The main issue is no NDK support, the rest is now pretty much on-par with Eclipse feature-wise.
I've been using AS exclusively since about 2 weeks after the I/O and I really haven't looked back since. The refactoring options and code inspection is so much more thorough and well-though than on Eclipse, plus the UI (with the Darcula theme) is really a lot nicer to work with and enjoyable to use than the kinda of outdated look of Eclipse.
I only go back to Eclipse when I need to compile native code or projects which contain native code.
Once you get used to gradle it's really a pleasure, just give it some time.
EDIT: NDK support was recently added
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The main issue is no NDK support, the rest is now pretty much on-par with Eclipse feature-wise.
I've been using AS exclusively since about 2 weeks after the I/O and I really haven't looked back since. The refactoring options and code inspection is so much more thorough and well-though than on Eclipse, plus the UI (with the Darcula theme) is really a lot nicer to work with and enjoyable to use than the kinda of outdated look of Eclipse.
I only go back to Eclipse when I need to compile native code or projects which contain native code.
Once you get used to gradle it's really a pleasure, just give it some time.
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Ah the NDK. I think that seals the deal. I don't use the NDK nor am I planning to so it seems there is really no reason for (most) people to use Eclipse.
does anyone know when version 1 will be released?
Same, only using Android Studio.
It's great really, just takes a long time opening. But hey, it's not like Eclipse was such a performance beast.
Just make sure you get the latest builds (they release an update every week).
So who's excited for Oreo!?
What features are you looking forward to the most?
For me it would be Project Treble!
Is there any devs here already working on a custom rom?
I'm looking forward to people stopping asking when it's coming.
Someone managed to get it to boot on a OP3, so wait a bit and you'll see it appear in XDA
Personally I'm waiting for Android P, because... I love peanut-butter. Anyone know when it will be released?
Yet another O thread, I might create an Android O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z anticipation thread so get it all out the way.
Kahun said:
So who's excited for Oreo!?
What features are you looking forward to the most?
For me it would be Project Treble!
Is there any devs here already working on a custom rom?
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yep, there are some..
On the basis that this is just an appreciation and excitement thread rather than an ETA thread I would say I'm looking forward to picture in picture for YouTube specifically.
Also looking forward to notification channels but think I will need to eventually try it to fully understand it's potential.
In the background I'm most excited for Google doing more to curb background battery drain from rogue apps as battery life is what I look to most in a phone.
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Jowhee said:
Personally I'm waiting for Android P, because... I love peanut-butter. Anyone know when it will be released?
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Next year
I'm most excited about the Autofill Framework. I've been using LastPass for a couple of years now and while it works decently on the phone, on many occasions I have to switch back and forth between LastPass and the app/website I'm trying to login into. Many times it takes more time and effort than I would like to and hopefully this new API will help integrate this feature seamlessly.
I read on the xda labs page that it might support OMS natively .. which is a big plus for me ... a couple of another features that i've seen are also interesting.
Jowhee said:
Personally I'm waiting for Android P, because... I love peanut-butter. Anyone know when it will be released?
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https://www.marshmallowpeeps.com/
djsubterrain said:
I'm looking forward to people stopping asking when it's coming.
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I'm happy with the progress with what we have now. Thank you to all the developers.
Moded ass OP5
This thread makes me feel like this is oneplus forums..
Great to see people excited about it and many developers already started doing development.
Good news for OP5 users!
halogenOS 8.0 development is ongoing. Releases for OnePlus 5, OnePlus 3 and OnePlus 2 will be coming as soon as we can manage.
In case there is a need to modify TWRP, I'll take a look at that as well.
caki25 said:
I read on the xda labs page that it might support OMS natively .. which is a big plus for me ... a couple of another features that i've seen are also interesting.
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Yes fully OOS level theme support of Substratum or a OnePlus own theme UI would be appreciated. I'd personally would vote for Substratum as there is already a mature theme library available on the playstore.
I'm also looking forward to the battery drain reduction from background apps.
ab7casper said:
I'm also looking forward to the battery drain reduction from background apps.
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Lets all hope that finally holds true.
ab7casper said:
I'm also looking forward to the battery drain reduction from background apps.
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Would be nicer if we had new battery tech! Lithium ion batteries been abouts since the 90s! We need some sort of breakthrough then we wont even really need these battery drain reductions.
A little off topic bit also exciting! Just need to see this tech move further along now. Maybe in the next 10 years this is what all gadgets will use. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/tech/super-safe-glass-battery-charges-in-minutes-not-hours/
bitojoe said:
A little off topic bit also exciting! Just need to see this tech move further along now. Maybe in the next 10 years this is what all gadgets will use. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/tech/super-safe-glass-battery-charges-in-minutes-not-hours/
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Did he work at Samsung? Too soon?
Just watched this video showing the new features of android Q. Samsung isn't on the list for the beta testing. I'm really not feeling the gestures it's just not quick enough going back.
For me the most impressive feature is the captions.
Basically it adds subtitles to your videos.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/7/1...vailable-pixel-oneplus-lg-sony-phones-io-2019
clax6 said:
Just watched this video showing the new features of android Q. Samsung isn't on the list for the beta testing. I'm really not feeling the gestures it's just not quick enough going back.
For me the most impressive feature is the captions.
Basically it adds subtitles to your videos.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/7/1...vailable-pixel-oneplus-lg-sony-phones-io-2019
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Used it on my pixel, boring update in my opinion. The reason Samsung isn't included is because all of those companies use versions extremely close to stock
clax6 said:
Just watched this video showing the new features of android Q. Samsung isn't on the list for the beta testing. I'm really not feeling the gestures it's just not quick enough going back.
For me the most impressive feature is the captions.
Basically it adds subtitles to your videos.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/7/1...vailable-pixel-oneplus-lg-sony-phones-io-2019
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In order for Samsung to be included they'd have to make a major overhaul to their one UI that they've just finished building (and is still not finished imo) and they won't just do that for beta testing.
The main reason for my post was about the new features. I just wondered what peoples thought were on them.
clax6 said:
The main reason for my post was about the new features. I just wondered what peoples thought were on them.
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It is a very sweet update. I think the finished android Q will kill it. I hope Samsung pushes it to the note 9.
crixley said:
Used it on my pixel, boring update in my opinion. The reason Samsung isn't included is because all of those companies use versions extremely close to stock
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Not true at all. Huawei and Xiaomi UI is modified to a large extent.
The reasons you won't see a preview release of Q on Samsungs are the locked bootloader and Samsung's insistence on their own customized UI. If past trends are correct, the Note 9 will get Android Q early next year. Each Samsung phone gets 2 major Android version upgrades so Q will likely be the final one. Also note that Samsung may choose to release it's own version of some new apps/features instead of using Google's implementation.
lee480 said:
Not true at all. Huawei and Xiaomi UI is modified to a large extent.
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Not to the degree Samsung's ui is. Regardless it's the most boring Android release ever, we aren't missing anything
crixley said:
Used it on my pixel, boring update in my opinion. The reason Samsung isn't included is because all of those companies use versions extremely close to stock
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crixley said:
Not to the degree Samsung's ui is. Regardless it's the most boring Android release ever, we aren't missing anything
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This clearly shows you have never used MIUI or EMUI before. I have used both as daily drivers and they are modified to a very large degree. And I'll confidently that say it's even more than Samsung. While Q doesn't introduce revolutionary features, there are several small improvements, especially in the privacy front that I guess many users are interested in and using the notion that it's a boring release isn't a very good justification for Samsung delaying it's upgrade plans.
lee480 said:
This clearly shows you have never used MIUI or EMUI before. I have used both as daily drivers and they are modified to a very large degree. And I'll confidently that say it's even more than Samsung. While Q doesn't introduce revolutionary features, there are several small improvements, especially in the privacy front that I guess many users are interested in and using the notion that it's a boring release isn't a very good justification for Samsung delaying it's upgrade plans.
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I've used both actually, however not to a large degree. In my use though I didn't find they were modded to the level that Samsung has modified Android.
Anyway enough being snotty, I am simply saying personally I'm not overly concerned about getting it asap