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TweetComb is a Twitter client designed and created exclusively for the Android Honeycomb platform. TweetComb gives you a tablet-friendly view of your Twitter timeline, mentions, direct messages, and more.
Market Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.chriswstewart.twitter
Features of TweetComb:
-- Interact with Twitter in a tablet-friendly way with the only Twitter experience designed for Honeycomb.
-- Read your timeline, mentions, and direct messages with three distinct fragments. Each fragment interacts with Twitter for updates independent of the others.
-- When new tweets arrive, TweetComb will alert you with an audio clip.
-- TweetComb gives you an easy way to use and switch between multiple Twitter accounts.
-- From an individual tweet, you can reply, retweet, share, favorite, and send a direct message.
-- Quickly send status updates with full support for cut/copy/paste.
-- Support for sending and replying to direct messages inside the app.
-- TweetComb can be shared to from other apps such as the browser, Newsr, and others.
If you have any feature requests, questions, comments, need support, or want to provide feedback please email me at [email protected]. Stay up to date with all of the apps from Locomo Labs by visiting:
Web: http://locomolabs.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/locomolabs
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Just purchased the app. Looks great. Nice use of the extra real estate.
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You know you'll have to change the name when Ice Cream comes out, right?
I still wonder why someone hasn't taken the name "Chirp" for a Twitter app yet.
Anyways, it looks really nice. I'd be more willing to lay down some cash for it if it had a widget.
Why didnt you make this app backwards compatible with android 2.2? I mean there are many tablets out there, like the galaxy tab and the viewsonic gtab, that are unfortunately stuck on froyo but are still tablets. Couldn't you have made it compatible and set a screen size minimum to 7"? That way you can prevent people from trying to make this work on a 3.5" screen (tho someone would get around it if they REALLY want it) but you keep the millions of froyo tab owners happy (and more $$ in your wallet). For example, take the touchdown exchange app. It automatically detects the larger screen on the tab and adjusts its UI accordingly. For $2.99 I would expect you to put more time and effort into your app because that is expensive for a twitter especially since we know many of the popular twitter apps will offer it for free. I have no problem supporting a dev especially when they go the extra mile to make things work properly across all devices. Making this compatible on the galaxy tab would be evident of this and I would buy it in a heartbeat. Please consider this.
Didnt google release a fragments library or something so this can be done pre-honeycomb?
I hope that you will find some insight to my opinion so I want to share it:
I think that the onslaught of new development for honeycomb tablets is great and I want to encourage it by purchasing these apps. With that said, I seem to be noticing a trend where these apps are coming out and they're basically alpha or beta stage without optimization or some features missing or "planned" with a pricetag and no ad-supported option for the users to download and check out the apps.
If you want to throw a new app out there, and ask us to test and feedback on it for a month... make it free during the development phase or only ad supported, and then when all of the features you are happy with are in and considered "ready to go" publish a paid version of the app and those of us who are really happy about it will gladly go buy it.
What I don't like, is having to pay 2 or 3 bucks for something and make a decision in 15 minutes or less as to whether or not it really works well. You cannot make an informed decision about a product in 15 minutes or less. This is not you the developers fault, and for that I am truly apathetic to your situation. If the 24 hour window still existed, or even if it was expanded to say 2 hours then I probably wouldn't make this post.
To combat the 15 minute window, I request that you consider an ad-supported version for people to spend more than a few minutes checking out.
For what its worth, I like the concept of a tablet optimized twitter client but judging only by screenshots I cannot tell if I would truly be satisfied or even need it as the official twitter app works just fine.
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Why didnt you make this app backwards compatible with android 2.2? I mean there are many tablets out there, like the galaxy tab and the viewsonic gtab, that are unfortunately stuck on froyo but are still tablets. Couldn't you have made it compatible and set a screen size minimum to 7"? That way you can prevent people from trying to make this work on a 3.5" screen (tho someone would get around it if they REALLY want it) but you keep the millions of froyo tab owners happy (and more $$ in your wallet). For example, take the touchdown exchange app. It automatically detects the larger screen on the tab and adjusts its UI accordingly. For $2.99 I would expect you to put more time and effort into your app because that is expensive for a twitter especially since we know many of the popular twitter apps will offer it for free. I have no problem supporting a dev especially when they go the extra mile to make things work properly across all devices. Making this compatible on the galaxy tab would be evident of this and I would buy it in a heartbeat. Please consider this.
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Though I'm loving this on my Xoom, i also have a gtab and if this is possible, would really love to be able to use this on my gtab too.... maybe even phones running froyo? Cos this really look very sweet!
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Didnt google release a fragments library or something so this can be done pre-honeycomb?
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They sure did!
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/03/fragments-for-all.html
ayman07 said:
Why didnt you make this app backwards compatible with android 2.2? I mean there are many tablets out there, like the galaxy tab and the viewsonic gtab, that are unfortunately stuck on froyo but are still tablets. Couldn't you have made it compatible and set a screen size minimum to 7"? That way you can prevent people from trying to make this work on a 3.5" screen (tho someone would get around it if they REALLY want it) but you keep the millions of froyo tab owners happy (and more $$ in your wallet). For example, take the touchdown exchange app. It automatically detects the larger screen on the tab and adjusts its UI accordingly. For $2.99 I would expect you to put more time and effort into your app because that is expensive for a twitter especially since we know many of the popular twitter apps will offer it for free. I have no problem supporting a dev especially when they go the extra mile to make things work properly across all devices. Making this compatible on the galaxy tab would be evident of this and I would buy it in a heartbeat. Please consider this.
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For me, I chose to focus on the tablet OS. While there are a few tablets out there running the phone OS, the trend over the next 6 months will be a whole new set of tablets running Honeycomb. I'd rather work on supporting that platform properly than diverting attention to support a setup that will be a tiny fraction of the market in about a year. I have no intention of bringing Newsr or TweetComb to earlier versions of Android for this reason.
There are Twitter apps, and Google Reader apps for that matter, which run on the phone OS just fine. I saw a market opportunity to make something for Honeycomb, using Honeycomb-specific features (that aren't included in the compat library), for both types of application.
If TweetComb isn't worth $2.99 to you, then I understand. I have put, and will continue to put, a lot of time and effort into it. I've done this with Newsr and will continue to with both. I'm not a company that can afford to put out free applications and hope I gain substantial market share to become attractive to acquisition. I'm a solo developer, with a full time job and a full time family, so for me the value proposition is making a couple bucks here and there to justify the serious amount of time and energy I put into developing Android apps. I have gotten a ton of positive feedback from my various applications, and it's been a really worthwhile endeavor for me.
I hope that answers your question on some level.
Edit: You know, and with all of that said, I am just a solo guy here in my home office making decisions and moving forward. Could I have made a mistake with TweetComb's price? Absolutely. Maybe I should have done any number of things. Frankly, I question every decision I make with my apps because I _do_ care. I put so much time and effort into them because I _do_ care. I want your input, I want everyone's input. It's not set in stone that I'll never have a free version, but right now something told me to put it up for $2.99 as I have with my other apps. Maybe that was a mistake, or maybe not. All I can say is I made a decision and moved forward with it. I'll second guess that decision, and every other, forever.
Imo the more dedicated tablet developers the better. Thanks again for the app
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Imo the more dedicated tablet developers the better. Thanks again for the app
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I think you meant to say "the more dedicated honeycomb app developers". Cuz I have a tablet and its not honeycomb and we get no support. Oh well..
Chris Stewart said:
For me, I chose to focus on the tablet OS. While there are a few tablets out there running the phone OS, the trend over the next 6 months will be a whole new set of tablets running Honeycomb. I'd rather work on supporting that platform properly than diverting attention to support a setup that will be a tiny fraction of the market in about a year. I have no intention of bringing Newsr or TweetComb to earlier versions of Android for this reason.
There are Twitter apps, and Google Reader apps for that matter, which run on the phone OS just fine. I saw a market opportunity to make something for Honeycomb, using Honeycomb-specific features (that aren't included in the compat library), for both types of application.
If TweetComb isn't worth $2.99 to you, then I understand. I have put, and will continue to put, a lot of time and effort into it. I've done this with Newsr and will continue to with both. I'm not a company that can afford to put out free applications and hope I gain substantial market share to become attractive to acquisition. I'm a solo developer, with a full time job and a full time family, so for me the value proposition is making a couple bucks here and there to justify the serious amount of time and energy I put into developing Android apps. I have gotten a ton of positive feedback from my various applications, and it's been a really worthwhile endeavor for me.
I hope that answers your question on some level.
Edit: You know, and with all of that said, I am just a solo guy here in my home office making decisions and moving forward. Could I have made a mistake with TweetComb's price? Absolutely. Maybe I should have done any number of things. Frankly, I question every decision I make with my apps because I _do_ care. I put so much time and effort into them because I _do_ care. I want your input, I want everyone's input. It's not set in stone that I'll never have a free version, but right now something told me to put it up for $2.99 as I have with my other apps. Maybe that was a mistake, or maybe not. All I can say is I made a decision and moved forward with it. I'll second guess that decision, and every other, forever.
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I'll just share with you my purchasing MO:
Pocket Cloud: Tried the free version for a few days, decided that it was worth 15 bucks and bought it.
Quick Office Pro HD: Had to wait for an actual tablet version but based on prior experience with the included app I purchased it. Again 15 bucks.
Reditta the new Honeycomb Redit client: The guy has an ad-supported version and then I think it costs $1.60 something. The current plan is to purchase it after my next paycheck as I am using the free ad-supported version and I like it (after spending more than 15 minutes with it).
The same is true for SNESoid and a couple games I've purchased after playing around with them for a couple days.
It could very well be worth your time to slap together an ad supported version of each of your clients for people like me who pretty much habitually buy any good/decent app on the tablet.
Nothing wrong with making money!
While I understand you, myself, and the typical crowd from XDA follows that approach, the _vast_ majority of consumers don't. I considered going with ad-supported, but honestly, from my experience, ad-supported really isn't even worth the inconvenience of the end user's experience. I'd rather just put it up for free without any advertising if I went that route.
Chris Stewart said:
While I understand you, myself, and the typical crowd from XDA follows that approach, the _vast_ majority of consumers don't. I considered going with ad-supported, but honestly, from my experience, ad-supported really isn't even worth the inconvenience of the end user's experience. I'd rather just put it up for free without any advertising if I went that route.
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How about a time bomb, one time in-app purchase that is required after the 1st hour of use? Just trying to think creatively lol.
I don't think $2.99 is that big of a deal tbo. The most important thing imo is a responsive developer and one that listens to feedback. Whatever you want added or fixed will taken care of. Just my 2 cents worth.
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Awesome app. Will u also dev for a Facebook tablet app? Or can u integrate Facebook in to this app as well?
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Anyway you would adding color links for username and links? Would make it alot easier to see..
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It's $2.99 people! It's not like it's up there at $10 or $15! We need to support independent developers like these.
And Chris, stick to developing purely for Honeycomb. I own a Galaxy Tab and the standard Twitter and Google Reader apps are fine on those. I'd rather have one amazing app than two mediocre apps. Keep up the good work!
Great app good job..please continue supporting honeycomb as you have a customer in me! One question I have is how do you open the trending topics? Also if you can make a Facebook app like this I'd buy it the same day as the Facebook apps for android sucks!!!!!
2.99 works for me. Bought it this morning and already an update. Thanks
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finally 21 and now i want software to help me get drunk in delicious fashion soo does anyone know of free software with mixes based on ingredients and such?
Here is one free one that I know of, however it is in no way the best. It actually references an online database to pull the drinks, so you would need a data plan to utilize it. It can be downloaded from freewarepocketpc at http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-pocketender.html
The best one that I have found is not free but was only like $14 USD and is fantastic. It is from Town Compass, but it is quite inclusive... Here's some of the info: http://software.techrepublic.com.com/abstract.aspx?docid=490101
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There's a bunch on this site. check them out. i havent tried it yet thou.
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http://handheld.softpedia.com/downloadTag/drink+mix
http://handheld.softpedia.com/downloadTag/alcoholic+drink
http://handheld.softpedia.com/downloadTag/cocktail
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this is to check if your sober enough to drive lol.( theres probably a better app out there...)
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Health/AlcoholLevel-67390.shtml
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i personally love the bartender app on the tmobile G1 but i cannot find it for my phone... errrrrr
well i hope i helped some. and if anyone can find the bartender app from tmobile g1 and its compatible with raphael/fuze i would love to know!!
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After looking through what was available, I'm a bit appalled by how horrible most of those apps look (and work).
I'm a former (and possibly returning) bartender and used to be a regular on one of the bigger online cocktail forums...so trust me when I say that most of the apps I saw are abysmal in both looks and function.
If there's enough interest, I'd consider throwing together an application to do this all much better. Any thoughts?
AvantGo
Try using www.avantgo.com and add the "Drink Boy" channel. You'll get good recipes on a nice interface that you can view and search for offline. When you're online, it updates itself. I've had a lot of fun with it.
Oh yeah! Don't drink and drive.
speed_pour said:
If there's enough interest, I'd consider throwing together an application to do this all much better. Any thoughts?
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I would definately be down. I totally concur. Half the bartender apps are outdated or are a bit difficult to navigate through. Being an amature bartender, I use my database quite a bit, but yeah if there was a program that would allow you to enter in your liquors on hand and priovide you with possibile combinations... Damn... That'd be sweet....
Sorry it's too early in the morning....
speed_pour said:
If there's enough interest, I'd consider throwing together an application to do this all much better. Any thoughts?
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Heck yeah!
+1 as my favorite quote is: "Candy is Dandy, But Liquor is Quicker"
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speed_pour said:
After looking through what was available, I'm a bit appalled by how horrible most of those apps look (and work).
I'm a former (and possibly returning) bartender and used to be a regular on one of the bigger online cocktail forums...so trust me when I say that most of the apps I saw are abysmal in both looks and function.
If there's enough interest, I'd consider throwing together an application to do this all much better. Any thoughts?
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I'd love a drink mixing app.... so count me twice (for each hand that can hold a drink) lol
iam also a bartender and would love an app for mix drinks and shots!!! but dont forget to add the DEATHWISH shot:
DEATHWISH:
1/3 JAGER
1/3 WILD TURKEY 101
1/3 BACARDI 151
SPLASH OF GRENADINE...
(layer grenadine on bottom of shot glass, after pouring in liqours...)
(NOT FOR THE LIGHT DRINKER!!!)
I'll donate to such a cause since I completely agree on the crappy state of the mixing apps!
sherv said:
I'll donate to such a cause since I completely agree on the crappy state of the mixing apps!
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I freely admit, since I'm out of work right now, I'm fine with being a whore
I've already got a bit of this started, but I'm working on another project first that I think will get a lot of wide-spread usage across the forum. But I'll get back to working on this one very soon.
In the mean time, are there any particular features anybody is looking for. I'm sure it'll be easy enough to figure out all of the features the drinkers want, but what about bartenders? Tell me how often you think you'll be entering drinks, what extra features do you need. Will you actually be using this while at work...with your fingers?
I know this is in the Raph section, though it belongs in Q&A or D&H, but does anybody here want a QVGA version, or dare I ask, W(Q)VGA? If this app is going to see finger-based controls (which I'd expect to make sense), it's not really going to work out having small windows controls, so graphics/resolution will be considered for the first version.
This site works well for me Webtender
thedarkness81 said:
This site works well for me Webtender
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I used to be a regular contributor to the forums there...The biggest problem is that the drink database is absolutely cluttered with incorrect entries and missing a lot of common recipes.
When I start building a collection of recipes, there's actually a couple of people from that forum that I'm going to ask for help/collaboration. I'm also going to throw them a heads up to ask for any thoughts from them on what they would like to see.
Any update on this app being made?? Im very anxious to have it...
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Any update on this app being made?? Im very anxious to have it...
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lol, from me, it'll be at least a couple of weeks. I'm in the middle of working on another app that'll be quite a bit more relevant on this forum. But I will be coming back to this app shortly.
I'll post more info to this thread when I start it, and then I'll create a release thread in D&H (and post a link to it here) when there's a reasonably good start on a beta version.
You can help out by giving some ideas of what features you'd like to see in it.
this is very cool that you'd consider putting an app together, pour...the best reference app/source I've found is that DrinkBoy channel on avantgo. That said, my advice would be keep it very simple. Not only will this, hopefully, take burden and time from your investment to the group, but I don't think I'd be looking for anything other than:
-thorough database with accuracy on both contents and how to prepare
-a "my favorites" option for quick look-ups and personalization
-organize at the root based on main ingredient (e.g. rum, vodka, bourbon)
-a search option with fuzzy-esque searchability (e.g. southside, southsides or southsider would produce the same drink recipe)
I guess these may end up being more work than I thought but an accurate db, easy search and browse engine with a "my fav's" organizer would be PERFECTION for me!!
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my advice would be keep it very simple. Not only will this, hopefully, take burden and time from your investment to the group
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I kinda suspect, with luck, my app will draw attention from hopefully every group....the college students, bar patrons, and even bartenders from different types of places. For that reason, a "simple" app might not be too likely. Simple interface is definitely part of my plan, but the application itself is going to be pretty powerful and probably meant to cover a lot of people's uses.
bigred727 said:
but I don't think I'd be looking for anything other than:
-thorough database with accuracy on both contents and how to prepare
-a "my favorites" option for quick look-ups and personalization
-organize at the root based on main ingredient (e.g. rum, vodka, bourbon)
-a search option with fuzzy-esque searchability (e.g. southside, southsides or southsider would produce the same drink recipe)
I guess these may end up being more work than I thought but an accurate db, easy search and browse engine with a "my fav's" organizer would be PERFECTION for me!!
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- Favorites will be very easy to implement, so this is pretty much a sure thing.
- The database itself is a subject I intend to take more seriously than a lot of people probably expect (more on that in the future).
- I've got several ideas for searches/filters, each will be fleshed out as I build it. I'm aiming mostly for live searches and the first will be using quick ingredient filtering.
- fuzzy search...I'll see what I can do, but that's one I know very little about. Some quick googling turned up some information that's possibly VERY usable, but it's all written for the the big brother .Net Framework while the Compact Framework gets no love. I'll bookmark some of this stuff and see where I can go with it after I've released a first version. As much as it might be cool, I can't justify porting Lucene.Net to the compact framework for this project. In the mean time, I can use a "Sounds Like" mechanism that would probably do pretty well for an early version. I'm also a little worried about performance.
As a note, I'd previously said that I wouldn't be starting this until I finished another application. I feel a little dumb for not seeing it sooner, but I discovered Sashimi exists (though I haven't started testing it). While it sorely lacks about half of the features I planned to build, it does a far better job at the other half of the features I had in mind. I'm going to try out Sashimi for a while to determine if there's enough reason to build my app (or possibly a configurator/extension of sorts for use with Sashimi, if possible). As a result, I'm going to put that project on hold and move on to this one.
Second note...err, request actually...I'm ok with graphics...sometimes...But I want to make this app graphically attractive and possibly add skinning ability. At the very least, I will need a few decent looking icons for a few things, at the most, it might turn into an entire interface design. One of my goals is to make this app roughly comparable to something people might expect to buy form the iPhone AppStore (after all, everybody is *****ing about the lack of pretty WM apps). So, if anybody has decent graphics skills and is up for helping out, drop me a line and we'll bump some ideas around when I get to the right stage.
wow i had almost forgot about this thread glad to see something has come of it!
definetly excited to see what you come up with
Is this program still in active development? I hope it is because it sounds like it could be really nice/useful!
I couldn't help but notice that, on average, the Android market apps are much more expensive than apps at the iTunes store. Is this because there is much less of a clientele? If I look into the apps for jailbroken iPhone etc. the prices are more similar.
Do you guys think that the prices will come down once the Android community grows? For now I love to support programs I use (e.g. SetCPU) but over time I'd like to get the "99 cent" apps as well
The problem is kind of the opposite from developer's pov, the lions share of apps on our devices are free. Partly this is offset by ad revenue. Some of the higher prices also have to do with exchange rates, and the relative weakness of the dollar these days,
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I am not sure I agree
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I couldn't help but notice that, on average, the Android market apps are much more expensive than apps at the iTunes store. Is this because there is much less of a clientele? If I look into the apps for jailbroken iPhone etc. the prices are more similar.
Do you guys think that the prices will come down once the Android community grows? For now I love to support programs I use (e.g. SetCPU) but over time I'd like to get the "99 cent" apps as well
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I have not paid for an app yet on my Android phone. You have to look around. I don't think I can agree with your comment though about ITunes being cheaper. But, to my defense it has been awhile since I logged in on there. It seems like I was always paying for something on my iPhone
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I have not paid for an app yet on my Android phone. You have to look around. I don't think I can agree with your comment though about ITunes being cheaper. But, to my defense it has been awhile since I logged in on there. It seems like I was always paying for something on my iPhone
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that is the exact reason for some of the problems lol. android users, perhaps because they are smarter, rarely pay for apps. apple users seem to be the same people that a couple years ago were paying 5 dollars for a 15 second ringtone lol. the whole "willing to pay" aspect of the apple fanbase is the main reason why media companies, corporations, etc love to push and develop for iOS; sometimes makes me wonder if i would be happier being a chump.
real lesson though: donate/pay for android apps people! (i personally prefer donate model, but people love to be free riders, so that might not work)
Thanks for all the input! I agree with all of you. When I pay the devs here at the Android community I feel like I pay someone in person. At iTunes it will most likely be gobbled up by Apple (30%) and the big software corporations.
The main reason why I posted this was that I saw the same game at the Android market for 250% of the iTunes price... If I think something is worth buying (or donating to the creator) then I'll do it. Heck, I'd even be willing to pay if someone would develop a stable Honeycomb ROM for the NOOK!
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Thanks for all the input! I agree with all of you. When I pay the devs here at the Android community I feel like I pay someone in person. At iTunes it will most likely be gobbled up by Apple (30%) and the big software corporations.
The main reason why I posted this was that I saw the same game at the Android market for 250% of the iTunes price... If I think something is worth buying (or donating to the creator) then I'll do it. Heck, I'd even be willing to pay if someone would develop a stable Honeycomb ROM for the NOOK!
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Don't forget that Goolgle gobbles up that same 30% from developers.
I feel like I'm being impatient but I have emailed several developers and all the answers I have received have said that they either have not thought about it or they are not planning on building a tablet app. I keep looking everyday under apps for tablets section of the market place and it seems like it never changes. I saw the ipad 2 announcement today and it made me a little bummed seeing all the apps that they have. I have also heard that developers don't like developing for android cause they feel like we don't spend money on their apps. I just wish we didn't have this app stigma against us.....
Humph....
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I feel like I'm being impatient but I have emailed several developers and all the answers I have received have said that they either have not thought about it or they are not planning on building a tablet app. I keep looking everyday under apps for tablets section of the market place and it seems like it never changes. I saw the ipad 2 announcement today and it made me a little bummed seeing all the apps that they have. I have also heard that developers don't like developing for android cause they feel like we don't spend money on their apps. I just wish we didn't have this app stigma against us.....
Humph....
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Which developers have you emailed out of curiosity?
ml3000 said:
I feel like I'm being impatient but I have emailed several developers and all the answers I have received have said that they either have not thought about it or they are not planning on building a tablet app. I keep looking everyday under apps for tablets section of the market place and it seems like it never changes. I saw the ipad 2 announcement today and it made me a little bummed seeing all the apps that they have. I have also heard that developers don't like developing for android cause they feel like we don't spend money on their apps. I just wish we didn't have this app stigma against us.....
Humph....
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I've had the opposite response, hell I've been beta testing a few apps currently being optimized for Xoom from these developers. That said, I agree with the sentiment that Android users don't donate/pay enough to incentivize developers.
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When the ipad released I believe there we're only like 40 apps. Patience guys....
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I've had the opposite response, hell I've been beta testing a few apps currently being optimized for Xoom from these developers. That said, I agree with the sentiment that Android users don't donate/pay enough to incentivize developers.
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Me too. Beta testing Android Agenda widget now.
Aaron636r said:
When the ipad released I believe there we're only like 40 apps. Patience guys....
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I think the ipad have a few thousand at launch. But it was a different situation as apple finalized the SDK and gave developers loads of time before they released the ipad.
Google only recently released the SDK with the hardware coming out soon after.
I think patience is the key, theres no question in my mind that the apps will come. There are too many tablets coming down the pike for apps not to follow.
I do feel like im out in the lake dipping my toes in the water before everyone else shows up, but thats what I (and presumably we all) knew when we bought the xoom.
ml3000 said:
I feel like I'm being impatient but I have emailed several developers and all the answers I have received have said that they either have not thought about it or they are not planning on building a tablet app. I keep looking everyday under apps for tablets section of the market place and it seems like it never changes. I saw the ipad 2 announcement today and it made me a little bummed seeing all the apps that they have. I have also heard that developers don't like developing for android cause they feel like we don't spend money on their apps. I just wish we didn't have this app stigma against us.....
Humph....
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Just so you know, "Apps for Tablets" are only those hand-picked and blessed by Google. (I think)
jondwillis said:
Just so you know, "Apps for Tablets" are only those hand-picked and blessed by Google. (I think)
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(I think) too.
Anyone know where we can see the tablet optimized apps that arent listed in there? There really should be a tab for that in the market. (no pun indented)
gbenj said:
(I think) too.
Anyone know where we can see the tablet optimized apps that arent listed in there? There really should be a tab for that in the market. (no pun indented)
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I agree and it is one of my entries on my wish list in my sig. I hope that they are planning this and have not implemented it yet because there aren't many to choose from currently. But they really need to make it easier to see all apps that have tablet support in the market.
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Just so you know, "Apps for Tablets" are only those hand-picked and blessed by Google. (I think)
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yeah, even inside the market there are more apps in the individual catergories. also, the way that the SDK is written, i think google intends to have the apps to be the same for both tablets and phones, with the app itself adjusting its behavior based on what kind of device its on. one upside of this is that almost all the existing apps work and aren't just zoomed in versions of themselves like on the iPad with iPod apps; they just need to be updated to better make use of the additional real estate on our screens.
How did you get a chance to beta test some apps? Did you sign up somewhere? Or just contacted the devel.?
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daddiaz said:
How did you get a chance to beta test some apps? Did you sign up somewhere? Or just contacted the devel.?
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other way around. but its not as glamorous as you think, a lot of sitting there experimenting with settings and emailing logs. just nice to be a bit of help since my programing/coding days are behind me.
hey thanks for the replys...
One developer that I have emailed is the created of dogcatcher, a podcast app. I feel like am just waiting for the bigger guys to put out something as well, like twitter or a new facebook app or something.
I agree to feeling like putting the toes in the water before anyone else. I really do like the xoom, just felt like I was feeling some doubts about the app community. I wish developers would see that we (are) willing to pay for decent apps! I would be more than willing to pay for something of quality.
I also agree about the app store. I've never been to big of a fan of apple. I mean they do make good products but they are not for me.they have however, made a great way to find iPad apps. You search for something and they show you both tablet and phone apps. That's also interesting about one app for two form factors. I didn't know that. Thank you for that information!
ml3000 said:
hey thanks for the replys...
One developer that I have emailed is the created of dogcatcher, a podcast app. I feel like am just waiting for the bigger guys to put out something as well, like twitter or a new facebook app or something.
I agree to feeling like putting the toes in the water before anyone else. I really do like the xoom, just felt like I was feeling some doubts about the app community. I wish developers would see that we (are) willing to pay for decent apps! I would be more than willing to pay for something of quality.
I also agree about the app store. I've never been to big of a fan of apple. I mean they do make good products but they are not for me.they have however, made a great way to find iPad apps. You search for something and they show you both tablet and phone apps. That's also interesting about one app for two form factors. I didn't know that. Thank you for that information!
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No problem.
PS: I have also been in touch with Doggcatcher developer, since I use his app constantly. At least in our communications he mentioned that he was looking at options for us on the tablets, and that he definitely had some good ideas about what to do. His app is probably the most completely developed app I have used on Android, but he errs on the side of not breaking anything so it might take a little bit, but the app, in and of itself is quite usable on the Xoom as is.
Android Agenda Widget coming soon with tablet support.
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may be naive but does the agenda widget just show calendar appointments?
ml3000 said:
I feel like I'm being impatient but I have emailed several developers and all the answers I have received have said that they either have not thought about it or they are not planning on building a tablet app. I keep looking everyday under apps for tablets section of the market place and it seems like it never changes. I saw the ipad 2 announcement today and it made me a little bummed seeing all the apps that they have. I have also heard that developers don't like developing for android cause they feel like we don't spend money on their apps. I just wish we didn't have this app stigma against us.....
Humph....
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not at all..it sucks. There isnt even a decent pdf reader. Originally i bought the ipad as a placeholder for the xoom, now that i have the xoom, i want my damn apps back. I'm returning this and getting the ipad 2. I LOVE the ui and i love android, but i hate the damn keyboard lag and I'm not patient enough to wait for apps.
Plus 300 bucks back in my pocket is alway a good thing
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may be naive but does the agenda widget just show calendar appointments?
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No, it hooks into task applications and other calendar apps too. For example, the one in my screenshot shows Oil change which is from the "Gtask" application for tasks. It also supports GotToDo, Astrid and Google Task Organizer in addition to Touchdown.
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Android Agenda Widget coming soon with tablet support.
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Man, I'm torn between "your screen is a big mess like my desk at work" and "this is so awesome" hahahaha! This is the best example of Honeycomb's potential which iOS has yet to achieve!!!
Got to http://market.android.com and search for "tablet"
Close to 1400 apps will show. Some work some don't. I think there is a thread of apps people have tested
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Nice to see more tablets hitting the 9" range! Maybe other major manufacturers will catch on and we'll have a plethora of 'ideal size' tablets to choose from! :fingers-crossed:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/nook-hd-plus-barnes-noble/1110060512
Interesting as came from a Nook Color a year ago which had the 7 inch form factor. I rooted and converted to cm7 pretty much immediately and served me well as a reader. Not sure if things have changed but B&N is more US centric than say Amazon which puts me off Nook. It will probably be rootable but just took a while to get the updates. Also not sure if camera is there for Skype but interesting.
8.9 is just the right size for me and waiting for ics or closest stable variant.
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In all honesty, this new line makes me want to get another B&N tablet.
However, it seems as though many developers pledged to stop developing for it.... If this is the case, I cannot make that purchase.
With all the stress that the developers go through for basically free support and work, I don't blame them. I hope that they realize that they are helping us immensely, especially with limited budget and options.
Again, the B&N line offers many options that I was specifically looking for on a device within my budget. It seems like Android, Windows, and Apple are all going the way of the "walled garden". Therefore, I hope that the developers can bring themselves to assist in the new B&N tablets as they have done in the past.
To those developers giving up on B&N, please remember that you are doing many of us a great service and giving options which we would otherwise never have, without the fat wallet. Also, be aware that the less you share and develop for us your grateful users, the more we will look towards the big names for further apps, questions, and solutions, and the less we will look towards your options... something that I'm sure we would all hate to do, but necessity requires us to. To limit work on these alternatives is to limit consumers dependency on your work, and similar developers work in this forum, forcing us to support the big names, their wallet, and their agendas.
SOLUTION TO DELAYED-NOTIFICATIONS:
Enable USB debugging on the phone.
You just unzip the file provided here in your PC: https://www.xda-developers.com/install-adb-windows-macos-linux/
Navigate to it via terminal.
Then, after you connect the phone to your PC, run:
./adb devices
./adb shell dumpsys deviceidle disable
That'll fix it for sure.
I simply cannot recommend Android to my normie friends and family.
Let me restate this: It is not our job to fix Google's bugs.
This is a US-centric view.
If you can't tell: I am a bit aggravated right now.
I could not get my GMail, GCal, and other notifications to come through properly on Pixel 5's Android 11 OR S21 Ultra's Android 11.
This has apparently been an issue that many an Android user suffers through silently -- and, some don't even know that this is happening to them. I guess they're embarrassed to publicly state that their mobile OS is subpar.
When you get an e-mail or if a calendar event reminder is coming up, and even if your phone's screen is OFF/locked: you should get an *instant* notification. No delay whatsoever.
Well, if my screen was off/locked, I wouldn't get these notifications or it would take 10+ minutes to show. But, once I unlocked my phone: boom, notifications. And, sometimes even if my screen wasn't locked, there would be a serious delay or no notification.
After spending loads of time trying to fix this problem, me and my friend finally stumbled upon a solution: ./adb shell dumpsys deviceidle disable
A reboot eliminates this setting modification, by the way.
Do not tell me that instant e-mail notifications are not necessary. Many of us work jobs that require them to be instant.
No end user should ever have to go through this. iPhone users certainly don't go through this.
If Google doesn't care about Android users, then, why should I, as an Android user, care about Android too? Just switch to iPhone, I guess.
Google pays Apple $10bn+ every year and makes better software for iOS than it does for Android.
Just look at the damn widgets that iOS users get.
So, $10bn/year plus the cost of the software developed to cater to iOS users.
This makes Google a simp cuck to Apple, nothing else.
Would Apple ever return this favor? No.
Therefore, Google management is a simp cucked by Apple, nothing more.
We are fools to be using this OS.
If Google is willing to subsidize my iOS software updates and experience to the tune of billions of dollars every single year -- then, why not just switch?
Clearly, my experience has shown me that Android can be cheaper -- if I don't value my time.
Statistic after statistic bears it out: iPhone users are wealthier.
I am tired of being an Android luser -- why should I take on such abuse and neglect by the main author of my mobile OS?
Before you start patronizing me: YES, I tried every other bloody trick in the book to fix this issue.
No end user should ever have to go through this! No end user should have to run adb commands to enable basic functionality.
There are some basic things that modern smartphones should just be able to do: instant notifications, 3rd party camera support, functioning RCS or some other form of E2EE messaging built-in, reliable local backups, a nationwide network of repair facilities, etc.
Android fails on all of these.
iPhone ordered. Glad to leave this Android ghetto behind.
Hey Google, if you have some self-respect: then, instead of paying Apple $10bn an year and doing iOS development, how about you actually work on some basic Android functionality instead?
Way too long dude.
But I can say I never had a delay on my notifications, especially on Gmail where my phone rings before my laptop for example.
All my apps get notified in time, I can compare with Signal and it's Desktop app.
I really don't know what's the cause but if I can help.
And for you information, all your monologue about iPhone is really too much, especially when some people have the exact same issue.
Just Google iPhone notifications delay and you'll find out.
If you wanna change, just change, We are not kids, nobody is gonna tell you to stay in the Android world if you're not satisfied.
To finish, you maybe make stupid assumptions. I paid an S21U 1500 € because I can, I also have an iPhone 12 Pro from work, and I just never use it because in my tastes, this is a really bad phone to use.
Good thing We use VoIP so I just forward my professional calls now.
Try this with your phone screen off: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.firstrowria.pushnotificationtester
Set the notification to come in at like 240 seconds and lock your phone screen.
If it doesn't come in instantly as scheduled, you have a problem.
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Try this with your phone screen off: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.firstrowria.pushnotificationtester
Set the notification to come in at like 240 seconds and lock your phone screen.
If it doesn't come in instantly as scheduled, you have a problem.
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Just tested I have exactly 1 second delay .
But I think he just doesn't care. He just posted to get it out and tell the world he leaves.
As if anybody cares.
Nat.smith26 said:
Just tested I have exactly 1 second delay .
But I think he just doesn't care. He just posted to get it out and tell the world he leaves.
As if anybody cares.
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And, your phone was locked for 4-5 minutes but the notification still came through?
If so, please share your battery optimization settings and other stuff.
Screenshots of those settings would be nice.
Nat.smith26 said:
Just tested I have exactly 1 second delay .
But I think he just doesn't care. He just posted to get it out and tell the world he leaves.
As if anybody cares.
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There is a reason why iOS has at least 60% market share in the US.
It has the basics right.
It has the low-hanging fruit mastered.
My friend has a Pixel 5 and I have an S21 Ultra 256GB.
And, somehow, I'm frustrated/biased over nothing?
Clearly, I'm in the game but Android is failing us.
I configured the app for 5 min notifications and programmed a countdown of my Google Home to see what was going on.
You won't get anything from my screenshots because I have nothing special.
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There is a reason why iOS has at least 60% market share in the US.
It has the basics right.
It has the low-hanging fruit mastered.
My friend has a Pixel 5 and I have an S21 Ultra 256GB.
And, somehow, I'm frustrated/biased over nothing?
Clearly, I'm in the game but Android is failing us.
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Yep the reason is this is an American Company that they are proud of and you can see Apple products everywhere, ads, shows, movies, etc...
That just became a standard.
A few years ago Apple had the same share but with ****ty phones, so...
Today they make good products, but that's still not enough for me.
I can't use a system where censure is normal, they chose to close the doors to every developers they want, they don't follow their own rules, they don't wanna use standards to slow down every tiers development and keep everyone in jail...
This is a biiiiiig discussion, but just like Facebook, I just can't stand their politics.
Most Americans are just blind when it comes to Apple, this is the pride of the nation.
And We don't talk bad about the pride of the Nation.
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Yep the reason is this is an American Company that they are proud of and you can see Apple products everywhere, ads, shows, movies, etc...
That just became a standard.
A few years ago Apple had the same share but with ****ty phones, so...
Today they make good products, but that's still not enough for me.
I can't use a system where censure is normal, they chose to close the doors to every developers they want, they don't follow their own rules, they don't wanna use standards to slow down every tiers development and keep everyone in jail...
This is a biiiiiig discussion, but just like Facebook, I just can't stand their politics.
Most Americans are just blind when it comes to Apple, this is the pride of the nation.
And We don't talk bad about the pride of the Nation.
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We need anti-trust measures to prevent them from preventing us from installing things on our own phones. That is the only way.
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We need anti-trust measures to prevent them from preventing us from installing things on our own phones. That is the only way.
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USA does not care and EU can't do much because they have less than 20% share in the rest of the world.
The only country they are afraid of is China, so they obey just to make more money and still use their factories.
Nat.smith26 said:
I configured the app for 5 min notifications and programmed a countdown of my Google Home to see what was going on.
You won't get anything from my screenshots because I have nothing special.
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Adaptive battery and put unused apps to sleep are known troublemakers.
Android will manage very well without them.
Any power hogs deal with on an individual case by case basis. Optimize it; flipping a toggle switch isn't optimizing
At the most, simply close that app when done with it. The Brave browser is real bad like that if you don't close it out.
Your results may vary... play with it; WYSIWYG.
As for Apple, it's a closed platform one trick pony and it sucks.
As for Android, you get what you put into it.
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There is a reason why iOS has at least 60% market share in the US.
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Yes, too many people have no imaginanation, want things easy, and have the manufacturer make their decisions for them. Apple and iOS is the go to for such individuals.
Beefheart said:
Yes, too many people have no imaginanation, want things easy, and have the manufacturer make their decisions for them. Apple and iOS is the go to for such individuals.
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Or, it's because the basics actually work on iPhones.
And, those basics are important to people.
Steve Jobs was right about one thing: The sheep outnumber us.
They use their numbers and money to get a better app experience for themselves.
Developers develop for sheep, not for Android Joes.
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Or, it's because the basics actually work on iPhones.
And, those basics are important to people.
Steve Jobs was right about one thing: The sheep outnumber us.
They use their numbers and money to get a better app experience for themselves.
Developers develop for sheep, not for Android Joes.
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You're on the wrong forum... no sheep here, we ate them.
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Or, it's because the basics actually work on iPhones.
And, those basics are important to people.
Steve Jobs was right about one thing: The sheep outnumber us.
They use their numbers and money to get a better app experience for themselves.
Developers develop for sheep, not for Android Joes.
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Well that depends what basics are to you.
To me it's just gonna be able to install any app I want and not being insulted by a closed and proprietary system.
If basics is just messages/calls/Facebook/snapshat just like 70% of the US teenagers then you can buy a 200$ phone for that.
But no, I see my nephew, He needs to get in the club, not to be different of the mass.
But tbh your arguments doesn't apply in the rest of the world, even in European countries where Samsung is still the leader and Chinese brands are hype
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Or, it's because the basics actually work on iPhones.
And, those basics are important to people.
Steve Jobs was right about one thing: The sheep outnumber us.
They use their numbers and money to get a better app experience for themselves.
Developers develop for sheep, not for Android Joes.
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The basics work on Android. Or they do for me at least.
Read into that what you wish.
Well I love android . Really but the notifications delay driving me crazy
I have s21 ultra . Honestly brilliant peace of hardware but with a very problematic bug in the notifications area.
Some apps send notifications without any issues but some apps don't. And when I'm unlock my screen it bombs my device like crazy.
I will try this add solution
Hope it will work for me
sagiag said:
Well I love android . Really but the notifications delay driving me crazy
I have s21 ultra . Honestly brilliant peace of hardware but with a very problematic bug in the notifications area.
Some apps send notifications without any issues but some apps don't. And when I'm unlock my screen it bombs my device like crazy.
I will try this add solution
Hope it will work for me
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Yes, please let me know if this adb solution works for you.
We need to reach out to Samsung and/or Google about this.
nixnixnixnix4 said:
Yes, please let me know if this adb solution works for you.
We need to reach out to Samsung and/or Google about this.
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do you know if device reboot will reset the idle modes ?
or if I done the ads command once it should work forever