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HD2 LEO back side pins[Q]

At first I would like to apologize if this topic already is somewhere there. I didn't know how to call thouse pins so I didn't know what to serach for.
When I look at the back side of Leo I can see three unused pins. I remember HTC Himalaya, where thouse pins were for extension pack with VGA OUT, CF slot and next battery.
Review of the cover
Does anyone know what are thouse pins for? CF slot is death but VGA OUT is usefull. Older QC generation was able to VGA OUT so why Snapdragon wouldn't?
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DN41

Problem solved
They are in use with original car holder

i guessed s.th. like that
thanks mate =)
DN41

Cannot believe that/
Sir Andrew CZ said:
Problem solved
They are in use with original car holder
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So one has to remove the battery cover in order to put the HD2 in the car holder?
Sorry, but this I do not believe it, I have never seen such car holders that demanded removing crucial/standard parts in order for the device to be able to function.... (Apart from a small rubber (dust)cover....)
Please document your findings with a link.
Personally I believe this is more for service/mantenance/diagnosing a broken device by tech support.

Wilco said:
So one has to remove the battery cover in order to put the HD2 in the car holder?
Sorry, but this I do not believe it, I have never seen such car holders that demanded removing crucial/standard parts in order for the device to be able to function.... (Apart from a small rubber (dust)cover....)
Please document your findings with a link.
Personally I believe this is more for service/mantenance/diagnosing a broken device by tech support.
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believe it, bub. As retarded as it is, HTC has made it that way with the HD2. The car holder will activate the Navpanel (via the 3 pins in the back) while charging the phone at the same time.

lude219 said:
believe it, bub. As retarded as it is, HTC has made it that way with the HD2. The car holder will activate the Navpanel (via the 3 pins in the back) while charging the phone at the same time.
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So in order to use the car adapter one should everytime remove the battery cover?
That's really retarded : where to leave it while driving? in your pocket is not to comfortable
They should mention that in the specs before one pays around $90 for that piece of cr*p
Bought mine at Dealextreme for under $10, works perfectly, only need car charger....

Wilco said:
So in order to use the car adapter one should everytime remove the battery cover?
That's really retarded : where to leave it while driving? in your pocket is not to comfortable
They should mention that in the specs before one pays around $90 for that piece of cr*p
Bought mine at Dealextreme for under $10, works perfectly, only need car charger....
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CAR HOLDER. Not car adapter. HTC made a car holder for the HD2. It has a suction cup stuck to the front windshield. The car holder is there to activate the Navpanel for using GPS program.

Wilco said:
So in order to use the car adapter one should everytime remove the battery cover?
That's really retarded : where to leave it while driving? in your pocket is not to comfortable
They should mention that in the specs before one pays around $90 for that piece of cr*p
Bought mine at Dealextreme for under $10, works perfectly, only need car charger....
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The car holder was to ship with a new battery cover which connected to those pins.
Search google for "Official HD2 car holder" then you can see pictures of it, it was actually
a very nice design, not retarded in any way.

Replacement back cover is not so bad
But I still don't know WHY buy expensive original holder with this "speciality" when I can buy 3 dollar holder on eBay with normal attachment...

These pins were for the original HTC car holder which never came to market. Therefore it was necessary to replace the rear cover permanently and stick with it at the car holder.
The now available HTC car holder is using a hughe plastic thing and the HD2 gets connected via Mini USB.
Neverteless, it would be very interest how these pins are usable for personal mods and so on. does anyone knows which functions they provide or how they can be used?

sorry to dig up a massively old subject, but I figured I would jump on the end of this instead of a whole new thread, now that this thread established what the subject matter is.
I want to put an induction coil in my phone (using a plastic back-plate obviously) and I'm wondering if I could feed power into these pins, obviously they were meant for charging so they should accept charge from other things, does anyone know the polarity of the metal tabs so I don't fry my hd2 with trial and error?

davidcampbell, did you try it? Cause i wanna use that two pins for charging and don`t know polarity too...

Seems like i have an answer. We need a block with 3 pins behind a battery cover, where left is minus and right is plus.

FunFrog said:
Seems like i have an answer. We need a block with 3 pins behind a battery cover, where left is minus and right is plus.
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Is this confirmed? Have you tried connecting power to the leads? Ive been contemplating turning the phone into a din-mounted stereo when I switch carriers and would like something better than microusb for power.
When powering these leads, can you remove the battery and still run the device? Unlike the microusb...

I,m also intrested in connecting cheap china wireles charging coil to those pins. Also I found out that they are used by Powermat Wireles Charging System for HTC HD2. Here you can see a picture showing this plug. So it seems that pin 1 and 3 is used for charging. But not shure about polarity.

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I,m also intrested in connecting cheap china wireles charging coil to those pins. Also I found out that they are used by Powermat Wireles Charging System for HTC HD2. Here you can see a picture showing this plug. So it seems that pin 1 and 3 is used for charging. But not shure about polarity.
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With battery door removed & looking into the back with the 3 pins in the bottom left the left most pin is +5v & right most pin is ground ...

I beg your pardon!
Prompt. There were official comments of the existence of this car holder (uses charge pins) from the HTC company?
Sorry for my language (google translate).

Poor man's desk stand

Hi Folks,
may I introduce you poor man's desk stand:
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This construction is open source. Feel free to use and improve it as you like The only constriction is, you have to post it (photos) on this thread, if you rebuild and improve my poor man's desk stand.

yet another nice idea
DN41

I love these I always make one when someone suggests one, I've got like six littering my desk

Push this thread

haha sound tha like mate just wantz painting or graffn up

that's awesome... no charging thoug... but still... at that price...

try this....
PS: Its not me in the video !!

Cool idea I think a lot of people became poor cause of the expensiveness of the HD2

GoGo Stand
Saw this thread and just had to tell you about my friend's site that addresses this very thing. His nick is Envador, and he's become very well known for his computer case mods. Aside from that, he came up with an idea for a phone/stand and he calls it the GoGoStand. you can check them out at
http://www.gogostand.com/
They fit in your wallet and are literally the size of a credit card.
I have 4 of them.

Lord60 said:
Saw this thread and just had to tell you about my friend's site that addresses this very thing. His nick is Envador, and he's become very well known for his computer case mods. Aside from that, he came up with an idea for a phone/stand and he calls it the GoGoStand. you can check them out at
http://www.gogostand.com/
They fit in your wallet and are literally the size of a credit card.
I have 4 of them.
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Awesome for just $5

Great job dude,
I have in my mind something like this, could you please post the measssurements of the base of your coarton dock?
I'm looking for an angled micro usb data cable so I can attach it to the dock and charge it at the same time, also I think I can get it covered with FIBERGLASS and then paintwith some glossy black spry paint..
That's what I have in mind, just need to start with the meassurements.
Thanks for all!

Lord60 said:
Saw this thread and just had to tell you about my friend's site that addresses this very thing. His nick is Envador, and he's become very well known for his computer case mods. Aside from that, he came up with an idea for a phone/stand and he calls it the GoGoStand. you can check them out at
http://www.gogostand.com/
They fit in your wallet and are literally the size of a credit card.
I have 4 of them.
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i saw this on this on the interweb around last summer. it was not this nice, the guy had posted how to make this yourself with a template. i made one from the side of a milk jug. it worked ok. i since bought the EB with kickstand so i tossed it. i dont always use the EB so i placed an order for these things. thanks for throwing this thing out for us.

Wire stand variation allowing charging & headphones
Hi all. I decided to make a version of the paperclip desk stand that would allow me to keep the charger plugged in and listen to headphones. You will need:
- 1 plastic coated wire clothes hanger OR ~ 60 cm of coated wire - not too heavy gauge or it will be hard to bend.
- Pliers
- Cloth to grip wire with to avoid damage from pliers
- Paper to put template on
- A ruler and pen
Method: Rule a 29cm line on the paper. Starting at the left hand end, mark the following positions on the line - 6.5cm, 11.5cm, 14.5cm, 19.5cm and 28.5cm. Hold the left hand end of the wire up against the line and transfer the marks to the wire, including the 29cm end which is halfway. Turn the wire, keeping the 29cm mark in line with the end of the ruled line and transfer the marks from right back to left on the remaining ~30cm of wire. Use the pliers to trim the excess wire off the end of the wire. Now, starting in the middle of the wire, bend the wire ~75-90 degrees at the 28.5cm marks - there should be about a cm of wire between the bends. Next, bend the wire into a hairpin bend at the 19.5cm marks. Then bend the wire ~85-90 degrees at the 14.5cm marks. This makes two 5cm "legs" at the back of the stand. Bend the wire ~85-90 degrees back down at the 11.5cm marks. Then make hairpin bends at the 6.5cm marks. Using the cloth and pliers, grip the 4 "hairpins" and squeeze the wires as close together as you can get them. Last, grip the short front ends of the wire and bend them outwards to avoid scratching the phone. Voila - a stand that can hold your HD2 while it's charging (pretend my old iPaq in the pic is the HD2 I used to take the photos )
Note: it isn't super stable, but it isn't intended to be.
Note 2: the other stand is "one I prepared earlier" from an over-the-door hanger. More stable, but doesn't have room for the charging cable.
My new hobby - creative accessories for the HD2

inductive charging mod for defy

I finally made one.
wanted to do this for a long time.
One of the harder mods i made.
-extremly small solder points.
-should still be water resistant afterwards
-wont charge without data pins connected - but usb should still be usable.
here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOSdcRLA-mo
I spend more then 10 hours in total to do this. Was it worth it?
=D hell yeah!

strong electromagnetic field does not damage data on a memory card?

its not long term
yes you can charge like this but with this kind of chargers your phone's life + memory life will reduce because of strong magnetic / electromagnetic field so try use it in emergency only

rucheat said:
yes you can charge like this but with this kind of chargers your phone's life + memory life will reduce because of strong magnetic / electromagnetic field so try use it in emergency only
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i call bull****! sorry to sound like a prick, but i strongly dislike people talking out of there ass about things they don`t know **** about.
This wont damage anything. Infact, this "strong magnetic / electromagnetic field" won`t even reach the phone.
Maybe you read some more about that topic:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_charging
http://www.engadget.com/tag/inductive charging/

Hi puked,
I would be very interested in knowing more about this mod you created. Good work by the way.
I was planning on doing something similar, I wanted to modify the car dock to charge the phone automatically when docked. I was thinking of adding 2 contact points on the back cover which would mate up with springs or some such on the car dock. I hate having to plug cables into the phone when putting the phone into the dock, bluetooth takes care of the audio nicely, just needed to get the charging sorted!
I'm particulary interested in hearing your experience of where you tapped into in the Defy. Did you solder directly to the back of the the USB connector? And you mentioned needing to connect the data pins to invoke charging, can you explain a little more?

hi jurgen,
i should have made some photos during the process of making the mod. Sorry for that -.-
Yeah, I soldered directly to the back of the USB port. Only one wire needed for Vcc.
A pinout can be found here:
http://www.talkandroid.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/pinout-microUSB1.png
this is the micro USB port, when you look into it from the front.
A guide, how to disassemble the phone can be found via youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uSH1UuEOvI
you only need to remove the backcover and the plastic shielding over the USB Port - this is easy.
To be able to reach the pin for soldering, you need to remove the antenna, too.
I drilled a hole into the plastic shielding to lead the cable through. You have to do this; there is no room to lead the cable otherwise.
Put the plastic shield back on, and fixate the cable on it.
to lead this point to the top of the battery, I used adhesive copper-foil.
GND can be taken from different points - I used the slot of the sim-card. lead this point to the top, too.
The receiver i used is from the cover of a palm pre.
The problem I had after I finished the mod: Phone won`t charge. Why? Well - dumb Moto decided the phone will only charge if USB is connected. You have to shorten the Data-Pins.
How did I do this? I got myself some micro USB plugs. remove the pins and dremel/saw it so small, that it fits into the slot completely. Remove the metal shielding and insert one of the pins from underneath (there are small holes, that normaly hold the pins in place). you eventually have to melt the plastic between the holes, so that the metal bridge fits. It should be flat and not stick out. You now have to shorten the pins sticking out on top, so that they are exactly as long as the pins would be.
Sound complicated and is complicated and damn frustrating, cause the whole thing is so tiny. we are talking about maybe 2mm at most.
Afterwards you have to isolate the whole thing. Instead of re-attaching. the metal shield, use some duct tape or similar.
This thing is sturdy if done correctly and easily removable, if you should need the USB Port.
I`m sure there are other possibilities do do make such a plug. This method worked for me.
I`ll make some photos later and post some links to a similar project for the Samsung Galaxy+. I hope it`ll be quite clear afterwards.
If someone wants to do this mod, I suggest you to start with the micro USB plug. Would be very frustrating, if you mod the phone first, and fail making a plug. Without it the whole mod is useless.
Maybe someone knows if it is possible to change something in software (CM7), so that the damn phone will charge without the pins connected. I still hope, this is possible, but didn`t get any feedback to this question as of yet.

Thank you for the very detailed response and the links.
I'll look into the links later, the shorting plug sounds like a pain to get right! Hopefully, as you say, there is a software setting/workaround that can bypass this.

Very interesting project!!! Impressive! One question that comes up: How long does it take to fully charge the battery?

Hi puked,
that's awesome work, congratulations for getting it working!
I did the same thing to my defy a couple of months ago, but I had less success unfortunately. I soldered it in and, like you, I noticed it did not charge when power was applied to the port. I eventually figured out that the pins need to be shorted, so did so, and have managed to nearly get it working.
The problem is, it only works if i take the coil out of the back and push it onto the touchstone base so there is little to no air gap. If it's even slightly off centre, the charging constantly restarts and it doesn't work. I haven't managed to get it to work with the coil in the case. I haven't installed the magnets/steel discs, as I wanted to get it working reliably first.
I wanted to ask, did you find it had to be perfectly centred for it to work? Did gluing the magnets in help here? Did you do anything special with the metal sheild behind the coil?
Craig

puked said:
i should have made some photos during the process of making the mod. Sorry for that -.-
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Hi Puked,
Can you please take the battery cover of your phone and make a picture of the inside? This might help me to see if I will try to make this mod myself....
Thank you.

Hi Puked
First of all Thanks and Congratulations for making it work. Awaiting photos before I touch the screw drivers

Hi and sorry for not responding for such a long time. I´m very busy at the moment, sorry :/
I promise i will make some more photos this evening and update this post with them.
To answer Craigms questions:
I cut the "metal shield, so that it fits - it`s a bit to wide to fit in without shortening. I diden`t use the little round metal plates from the palm cover (these are no magnets), instead i used sheeting from a tin.
To find the best spot on the touchstone, i used wires to link cover and phone, so that i could move the cover around. when i found the optimal place on the touchstone, i attached the sheeting and fixated it.
I also had to dremel down the plastic inside the battery cover so that it fits and closes without pressure.
Notice: The first touchstones seem to be faulty - they have problems even with the original HP phones.
I have problems aligning the phone as well, sometimes. But that only happens, if battery drops below ~30% - that rarely happens since I modded my phone.
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Nice work. I've actually just finished a Touchstone Car-Cradle for my Defy.
My problem is the shorting of the data pins... damn those tiny plug .
Puked, you wrote that one doesn't need the metal shielding of the plug but in the picture you've posted there is a metal shield around the plug... Without the shield it seemed to me, that the plug is too lose and the data pins have no connection. On the other hand, with shield it's really hard to remove the plug from the defy... in fact there's currently one stuck in the USB port :|.
Having destroyed three plugs with my oversized soldering iron, I now need to wait for new ones before I can continue :/.
Could you please post a picture of the micro-USB plug alone? So I can maybe follow your lead

Yeah - the plug is a pain in the ass. If I would have known, that the phone wont charge without them connected, I could have solved this problem in a different way.
best thing to do would be to solder 2 more cables to the data pins and shortem them via battery cover - similar how I did it with Vcc and ground - just with data.
You are indeed right - there is a metal shielding. I made a new plug. Will make photos later.
btw. I still believe (hope) that one could make the phone charge without the pins shortened via software.

How To: R&R USB charge connector port.

I purchased my International Note in May and love it. It's an amazing replacement for my Dell Streak 5. A few weeks back I was charging it via my PS3 and it couldn't decide if it was unplugged/plugged in. At that point it would intermittently charge, and then things got worse when it would think it was plugged into the car dock or it would load the Samsung audio hub.
I did some research and narrowed it down to the USB hub (duh)... I tried cleaning the USB cable and port connections with no results. I figured out I could shut the phone off, plug in the USB and it would charge the battery but it would still randomly load and close the dock apps, or turn on/off the screen randomly. The phone was almost useless at that point.
If you are dealing with the above symptoms, all my research and experience points squarely to replacing the "Charge Connector Port USB Flex Cable" to fix these problems. From what I've read this problem is not an isolated Note problem, or even isolated to just Samsung and can be narrowed down to the 3rd and 4th pin.
Anyway, I found a few retailers on eBay selling the part I figured I needed for fairly reasonable prices. I bought one from a US based retailer, and one from one based out of China. Similar prices from both, and only one day difference in delivery days. I also purchased a iPhone tool kit on eBay for a whopping $5. You need a small Phillips screwdriver, a pair of tweezers, and a pry tool to pop off the flex cables. Oh, and guitar pick. We'll get to that later.
Tools and the Note
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Ok, now, on to this tutorial type thing.
To get started - shut off your phone, and pop off the battery cover. Remove the pen, battery, sim and SD card and set them aside. At this point you'll see nine screws that secure the rear portion of the phone to the metal frame. I used the screwdriver to loosen them to the point of almost being free and then held onto them with the tweezers, then put them in a lens filter case. I lost one.
After the 9 screws have been removed it's time to use the guitar pick to separate the two pieces of the phone. Holding the phone with the screen towards you, slide the pick in on either the volume rocker side, or power button side. You can then slide the pick down towards the bottom of the phone. It may take a bit of work, but just be patient and take your time. Work the sides and bottom of the bezel and it will pop free much like the battery cover does.
Stairway to Heaven
Now, you will be greeted by the powerful innards of the Note!
At this point of the job you will need that nifty little pry tool and more patience. There are 3 screws located on the housing that the speaker is molded into that cover the USB port. Remove those screws, and you'll see the antenna cable attachment and flex cable. Initially I removed all the flex cables. I looked closer and realized all you need to do is remove the antenna cable mounted to the charge port and pop free the two flex cables at the bottom of the phone and one screw on the power button side of the phone.
Three screws to remove the speaker housing.
Once this screw had been removed you can slide the flex cable attached to the charge port free and remove the old part.
Take the new part, slide the flex cable under, bend it up and connect the two flex cables and antenna. Make sure these are secure, the smaller flex cable powers your capacitive buttons! Now, it is just a matter of working in reverse.
I found this to be a very simple job and better than that my Note is back to being awesome again. All of the problems previously mentioned are gone. The phone charges just as it should and everything is right in the world.
And, just for your consideration I included pictures comparing the parts from the different suppliers to the OEM version. I am using the Chinese version as it seemed to be a better constructed piece. Search for them on eBay as "easytradingco".
Left - Chinese, Top right - OEM, Bottom Right - USA
If anyone has questions, don't hesitate to ask! Hope this helps!

I'm gonna be doing this in about 2 minutes and I'm scared as hell. If anybody has any special tips not mentioned above please post below.
ok..i'm diving in!
OK. I did it but I couldn't put it back together (and I also lost a screw! but found it again..lucky me!)
When you slide the housing back in, start from the top of the phone and work to the bottom. The bottom slides back very easily but the top is extremely tricky.
I'm surprised no one else had to replace the usb charging port?
THANK THE LORD!!! IT'S ALIVE! Thanks to Rosh I resuscitated my phone! I'm totally gonna buy another spare part.
And I'm probably gonna buy a white housing to mix and match parts.
Anways, thanks Rosh!
This is the part I bought mine from. Like I said, I'm gonna buy another. I couldn't flash certain ROMs without fixing this first.

Glad I could help, leafsacc!

I changed mine a couple weeks ago, the only thing I noticed different, BOTH boards were stamped GT-7000/I something with a date.
Both boards look identical, but, the one that I took out of the Note, appeared like the one in your upper right photo. "Gray tape" or whatever
it is, and the new one does not. Since replacing it with the one that looks similar to the one in your lower left photo, the signal level on
my note is a little iffy in spots, where it wasn't before. I'm guessing that the one I ordered, from China...may not quite be like the one
that was the OEM version (my note is the international version, Amazon Germany).
tnx

Cheap dock with USB audio out

I have this item and can confirm it works.
EZOPower Dock Cradle
The phone does not sit in it super snug, but it is tight enough on a solid surface. I wouldn't try it in a car!
The charging plug in the bottom of the base is adjustable, and should allow usage with most cases.
Make sure you go to Settings/Accessory and click on 'Audio output mode' to enable the audio out of USB.
I have this on my nightstand and it is connected to my stereo clock radio. The audio is good with the volume all the way up on the phone, otherwise there is some static that comes through the speakers.
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Interesting I didn't know android supports audio out with microusb

This is just what I was looking for but it probably won't fit with my Defender case. Anyone know otherwise?

farfromovin said:
This is just what I was looking for but it probably won't fit with my Defender case. Anyone know otherwise?
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Unless the case is very thick on the USB end, it should fit. The USB connector on the dock slides a good 1/4" or more from front to back.
Sent from my awesome Sprint Galaxy Note 2 with Tapatalk 2

JimSmith94 said:
Unless the case is very thick on the USB end, it should fit. The USB connector on the dock slides a good 1/4" or more from front to back.
Sent from my awesome Sprint Galaxy Note 2 with Tapatalk 2
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Well, the Defender does have a large bottom But, I'm pretty sure an exact knife/dremel and some plastic welding should be able to accommodate. Looks like the USB plug is pretty flush and I'd need it to stick out 1/4”-3/16” to make a solid connection. Unfortunately, this dock seems like the only one that is open enough to run larger vases. At least it's cheap enough to try out

farfromovin said:
Well, the Defender does have a large bottom But, I'm pretty sure an exact knife/dremel and some plastic welding should be able to accommodate. Looks like the USB plug is pretty flush and I'd need it to stick out 1/4”-3/16” to make a solid connection. Unfortunately, this dock seems like the only one that is open enough to run larger vases. At least it's cheap enough to try out
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Well, for $20 I wouldn't call it cheap enough just to try it out if you are not sure if it's going to work I prefer $3 ebay cases to go under dremel surgery (like this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/White-Dock-...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item5af01ebc65) although I had to make an excuse with that other $15 charger/dock from tmart for ZL9300.
But this particular EZOPower dock looks very good with plenty of room and that padding in the back can always be removed (I assume) to give extra room for a case. Regarding Defender there is another problem. The micro usb port cover is very thick and might be in the way when you flip it backward to fit inside of any cradle/dock. I read somewhere of people actually complaining that even a pressure of that port cover on the usb charging cable loosens up micro-usb connector on the phone. So, unless you cut off that port cover, I'm not sure how it's going to work with Defender case.

vectron said:
Well, for $20 I wouldn't call it cheap enough just to try it out if you are not sure if it's going to work I prefer $3 ebay cases to go under dremel surgery (like this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/White-Dock-...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item5af01ebc65) although I had to make an excuse with that other $15 charger/dock from tmart for ZL9300.
But this particular EZOPower dock looks very good with plenty of room and that padding in the back can always be removed (I assume) to give extra room for a case. Regarding Defender there is another problem. The micro usb port cover is very thick and might be in the way when you flip it backward to fit inside of any cradle/dock. I read somewhere of people actually complaining that even a pressure of that port cover on the usb charging cable loosens up micro-usb connector on the phone. So, unless you cut off that port cover, I'm not sure how it's going to work with Defender case.
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Oh yeah, I cut that thing off as soon as it came out of the package. Makes it much easier to dock in my car with my ProClip.
Also, that eBay dock you linked doesn't have 3.5mm audio out. That's what I'm after with a desk dock.

farfromovin said:
Oh yeah, I cut that thing off as soon as it came out of the package. Makes it much easier to dock in my car with my ProClip.
Also, that eBay dock you linked doesn't have 3.5mm audio out. That's what I'm after with a desk dock.
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OP stated that you can enable audio out of USB, just need an adapter/splitter I guess? At least that's how I understood his post cause that dock doesn't have audio out and he suggested its not for the car.
Btw, I don't think I came across cables with micro-usb going to the phone and usb/audio out splitter on the other side. Does it exists? Also, do you need to use OTG adapter for N2 to be a host or not?
To OP, how do you connect it to your radio?

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Btw, I don't think I came across cables with micro-usb going to the phone and usb/audio out splitter on the other side. Does it exists?
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Yes, iBolt's xprodock now ships with one, which should supposedly be available separately in about 4 weeks, and there are cheap ones on eBay which apparently don't work on aosp/cm based roms but are fine on Samsung based roms
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I ended up getting an Amzer Piano Dock. It looks like the same dock as this, except the description states that it works with most cases whereas this dock's description says it works with thin cases only. I'll report back later today if it works with the defender case
-edit- the Amzer works with a Defender if your happy to take a dremel to your new $30 dock and like plastic welding or hot glue lol.