Ok from the recent accumulation of information, lots of confusion, and lots of false info, i have seen on here finally has made me to decide to post here again in order to help clean up all of the rumors and such and give an update on the status of unlocking the device...
1. Bootloaders- are locked and as of now will be for the forseable future bearing we don't get some of the info we need one being the proper sbk. there are other methods we have been working on but i guess the easy way of putting it is we have gotten to all the final doors and have all the tools , how ever the locks on these final doors are at this point still un-pickable. My current suggestion for anyone wanting to help, unless you are a good crypto guy , in which case by all means message me, for the rest of you our best bet is a hot chic a tight dress and a even better B - to some one that has access of some of the stuff we need if you cant offer any of these things than just be patient so that next time i dont have to write this and once again we wont have to publish what we are doing for everyone to read and defend against, before we are ready too!! Remember they don't document online how the built the lock , so we should not publish how we want to dismantle it until it is done!!
2. Nvflash - Yes it exists on our devices, yes it can be accessed , yes you need a Dev. cable to do so. Yes using it theoretically we could re flash our devices with unsecured images , yes with it I could make our devices free , How ever this all being said there is a problem currently, and that is that its is signed with a sbk value, this value is unknown to us it is a AES key and is in this format 0x00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000. With out knowing the value of this key anything anyone wants to tell you about nvflash is complete and entire BS!! You can not even read from the device, any command that is sent via nvflash will return an error and than disable the connection to the device in order to prevent a brute force attack. Find us this key by sleeping with the enemy i will give you an unlocked device by tomorrow
3. Dev Cable- Yes they exist, yes you can make your own, You need to send 5v to pin 4 also known as the id pin, the battery must be removed from the device when using this cable, you will plug it into your phone hold the vol - button and goto nvflash mode than your computer can see it as well as nvflash. Is there any need for you to have this cable ? As of now probably not, as there is not much you can do with this cable unless you have a dead or damaged battery and need to reflash a sbf to fix your phone so that you can than charge your battery again. And yes TBH is offering to sell you one of these cables for $50, if that seems to be a fair price to you and do not wish to make your own and do have a use for a cable that as of now is not helping a retail atrix to much than by all means order one from there web page.
Anyhow despite our lack of posting here on XDA there are a few of us that still dedicate our time everyday to this ... We are not constantly updating people here because A) Anything less than a guide on how to unlock your device is a disappointment, B) We do not think that making our info publicly available would be beneficial to anyone, and increases the likely hood of a patch or block attempt. C) Its not a oh were almost there type of operation, there is no clear cut path. Anyhow i Hope this helps clear up info and stops foolish attempts and ridiculous comments lies and posts like i have seen the past week, keep faith and enjoy your device as is its a great devices just severely crippled thanks to AT&T thats right AT&T so if your board write to them, call them, sign the patition, file a complaint to FTC blog about it and from now on only buy devices listed like here, http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/root_friendly
Have a Great DAY!!
This wake up call is very much appreciated! Thank you, sir!!
Thank you for the update.
I believe that this has been a much needed post, but please clean up the language.
Thank you.
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Thank you for the good information! I'll be quite happy with my GingerBlur in the meantime.
I got fiiiiive on it
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sifon187 said:
time to start the bounty for the hooker.
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I'm in for $10.
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Language is real talk speak how u want we grown
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Like many, I am exposed to this kind of language on a daily basis. Like few, I understand the importance of a clean, inviting community for all ages. Now, I am only sixteen, but real adults speak politely, with manners and respect. Such ideals are hard to come by these days, even in the adult community. I am just making whatever menial effort I can to keep these forums clean and inviting for all age groups and backgrounds.
Thank you.
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Like many, I am exposed to this kind of language on a daily basis. Like few, I understand the importance of a clean, inviting community for all ages. Now, I am only sixteen, but real adults speak politely, with manners and respect. Such ideals are hard to come by these days, even in the adult community. I am just making whatever menial effort I can to keep these forums clean and inviting for all age groups and backgrounds.
Thank you.
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But its not for all age groups...these forums are for the hardcore modders and devs. If you don't like the way he talks don't read it
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EricHegnes said:
Like many, I am exposed to this kind of language on a daily basis. Like few, I understand the importance of a clean, inviting community for all ages. Now, I am only sixteen, but real adults speak politely, with manners and respect. Such ideals are hard to come by these days, even in the adult community. I am just making whatever menial effort I can to keep these forums clean and inviting for all age groups and backgrounds.
Thank you.
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i'm 10 years older and i speak however the situation requires. not everyone has to be polite and cordial 100% of the time; in fact the internet is probably the least likely place you will find that. if there's a problem, tell the mods or report the thread. citizen's policing will often just lead to backlash.
anyway, i suggest we sticky this thread to the top of the forum.
Developers rarely speak curiously our sometimes even understandably. So asking devs to speak in your preferred style will likely lead to devs ignoring you or walking away. They're very fickle that way.
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raybond25 said:
we either need to find an insecure female motorola employee and worm the SBK out of her, or we need to hire a really hot hooker to get it from one of the motorola tech devs.
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Lets spend that $2700 bounty on a hooker
ON TOPIC: Best of luck to the devs I'll be waiting here patiently..
With all that being said... back to the subject people Thanks for the update t0dbld! I, like many others who have this beast of a phone, will continue to patiently wait while the devs (who are working hard) try to get this thing handled!
Attention Mods: Could this be stickied in an effort to stop anymore pointless bootloader threads? Keep it updated with any news of bootloader unlock efforts.
Thanks for the update devs.
Come on guys, we all know there is no women in computers. Well not hot desperate ones anyway.
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Come on guys, we all know there is no women in computers. Well not hot desperate ones anyway.
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who said they had to be hot....? someone could take one for the team.
that being said - thanks for the post t0bold, we know you're doing what you do elsewhere so you don't get flamed hard by the naysayers, and we support you guys.
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who said they had to be hot....? someone could take one for the team.
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You get on with taking one for the team bud. ;D
that being said - thanks for the post t0bold, we know you're doing what you do elsewhere so you don't get flamed hard by the naysayers, and we support you guys.
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Ontopic: Great post t0bold, it was definitely needed. I am hoping the sbk gets leaked from Moto. But I doubt that will happen, but you never know.
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if anyone got the sbk like that they would be my hero, ahahaha.
although, if anyone got it using any method they'd probably still be my hero, but that one would be so much more awesome.
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Lol they'd be the keymaster lmao
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Apart from the sbk what would you need?
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I posted links to a free Diamond unlocker on here last week and subsequently recieved a 7 day ban.
The ban stated the reason was "posting other peoples work".
I didnt know if the software was working,fake,safe or easy to use as my device is already unlocked but in the nature of xdadev forums i posted it in case it was of use to anybody.
I most definately didnt claim the software as my own nor did i try to profit from the work of others.
I guess it upset somebody as like i said i recieved a weeks ban for my efforts which i think was kinda harsh considering.
Wouldve have been a bit more civil to have just removed the post,links and PMed asking/demanding that i dont post the software here or anywhere else and i would have happily complied.
**** i still dont know who banned me and for what reason exactly but i aint complaining about a poxy 7 day ban that was easily bypassed by logging in as a guest to browse the forums, just wouldve been nice to been asked a question before being shot.
Just for the record
If your post was legitimate (which I don't know if it was), surely somebody was jealous and wanted his own work promoted.
Wouldn't surprise me if he even wants money for it.
It's cuz the devs are charging money for unlocking the devices. They say it will be free later, so I guess until then nobody else can start giving out codes for free.
There's a couple of posts about it in the ROM Dev thread
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If your post was legitimate (which I don't know if it was), surely somebody was jealous and wanted his own work promoted.
Wouldn't surprise me if he even wants money for it.
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Yea thats what happened as far as I can see.
The software I aquired is being sold by the dev/devs which is fair enough if they feel its worth the asking price and theres a market then **** it
let them eat cake.
My reason for this post was just that I didnt care for the way the matter was dealt with by banning me with out so much as a valid reason or reply to my attempts to contact them over the last week.
I also posted to state the fact that i didnt claim the software to be mine or attempt to gain financial or kudos rewards for the post.
If like I stated I had been approached with the facts rather than just getting banned I would have happily removed the link and file from my hosting and even blagged that the software I had was a fake if that would have appeased the powers that be and kept the coin rolling in for the dev/devs.
The fact is the unlock solution is now in the wild and its probably pissed on theyre chips.
Also im now getting unsolicited PMs asking for the software and I aint the ignorant type.
I can understand people being pissed off as i was unintentionaly offering for free what they was selling but i just think the matter could have been dealt with differently.
Fex
I think that the software author in general has the right to ask for a remuneration for his hard work, if he feels like it.
I know exactly the feeling.
But what bothers me, is exactly what you've described: the WAY it's been delt with.
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I think that the software author in general has the right to ask for a remuneration for his hard work, if he feels like it.
I know exactly the feeling.
But what bothers me, is exactly what you've described: the WAY it's been delt with.
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I wholeheartedly agree with you mate which is why like I mentioned If I had been informed I would have if able to, happily taken measures to repair and repent my minor discretion
I understand where you’re coming from innocent until proven guilty and all that. But, sh*t happens then you die... so don’t worry about it.
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The fact is the unlock solution is now in the wild and its probably pissed on theyre chips.
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I also agree with you regarding the unlocker is out in the wild. It’s available on bit torrent and various online forums mostly in foreign languages...
I do like the idea that they have come up with which is to give it out for free to people who support this site and charge the ones that don’t as its most likely these people who will go on to profit out of the software by selling it on as a service.
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well, one of the names it goes by is libera_diamond.
im sure someone in this forum selling that...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414835 see the link and any question of who banned you will be solved my friend...
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hint hint:
well, one of the names it goes by is libera_diamond.
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I already found it.... used it... and... IT WORKS!...
Just unlocked 16 Diamonds from Portuguese TMN!...
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hint hint:
well, one of the names it goes by is libera_diamond.
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Well, found it as well, cheers!
instructions within
can anyone assist with a bit more user friendly instructions for the above topic, and do i need to use an xp system rather than my vista device?
all help would be appreciated.
cheers
help....
can someone supply better instructions, for this unlocker....
Works on Vista Ultimate Perfectly!
The unlocker works on vista. I should know. It worked perfectly on my phone.
The last step's hit and miss. For some reason (i'm guessing the dev had a twisted sense of humor), the app'll close instantly unless you try and freeze it open. The best way to do this is launch diamunlock.exe and press the UP button on your phone REPEATEDLY. After about 5-10 tries, the program will stay open and you can take your time.
I do admire what the dev was doing by selling this but TBH from what i've seen about XDA-Dev, software is given away and donations are asked for later. This new approach of charge first and that's it, while expected, doesn't seem to fit with the ethos of xda-dev and as such, i don't feel like i should promote it by paying for the software.
Now if it had been donationware? Hell yeah you best believe i'd have sent 10-20 bucks the dev's way.
Hy,
With this solution I've unlocked severall phones, and since I believe that knollege should be payed, I've given already 2 donations to this forum in general... of course I refuse to pay to anyone in specific if the solution is out for free!...
And I think everyone should recognise this forum's usefullness with some sort of donation, either knollege or money.
BR
Well, this thread surely doesnt serve any purpose other than simply gossiping (in a polite language) about someone else's work around here. So thread closed and I dont think its wrong. Will be moved to trash soon, just wanting the OP to take his time and read this post. PM a MOD if you feel otherwise
Hi all,
This is my first post, although I have been following the group for a long time. My post is motivated by the observation that a massive imbalance exists, particularily in the Legend development community.
There is a huge mass of non-contributing users badgering a small group of hard-working developers, whilst free-loading off the many hours they spend trying to improve the Legend for all of us. (BTW - I'm not pointing any fingers that don't equally apply to myself!) The value of the hours they are putting in is huge, and the return amounts only to the occational humble click of a thanks button.
I have written to the XDA owners and proposed that they implement a system whereby users can donate to a specific thread, and that each month the proceeds of thoses donations are distributed to posters according to the distribution of new "thanks" clicks to them. Unfortunately I have not heard anything in reply, so in the meantime I propose that we start here in the Legend development forum in a less systematic way.
For example; all of us eagerly following ogo2's thread on his Alpha rom should support how we can. We have all heard BlaYO's hesitance to get too involved in that he needs another Legend to do development work on, as he can't render his own out of service for days on end. Absolutely fair point. I would suggest that all active developers in here create a donation account somewhere so that the rest of us ungrateful, free-loading scavengers (again, myself included, and meant in the most positive way! ) can contribute.
Let's get BlaYO a second development Legend, or ogo2 some resources on Linux compilation etc. It's the least we can do, even if we are just selfishly offering to help them, help us
It would not take much, and I am quite certain that anyone who can afford a Legend can also afford to donate $10-20 now and then. What a small price to pay for all the hours that our devs spend working to bring all of us the latest and greatest. Let's give something back!
There were a bunch of users that actually donated to my PayPal account (a few months ago I didn't believe this could happen by the way).
I'd personally object to such a system for various reasons, the main one being complication of something which is a pretty simple in fact: You like the work of someone, you donate (or buy).
Moreover, there are a few CM developers whose work on their device (which happens to use an msm7227 chipset) directly influences the Legend too and therefore my work as well. They are not active in the Legend forum though.
So what I basically want to say: There's a lot of work going on – not hours but weeks – which you might never see because these almost unmoderated boards here are full of you-name-it and every CM developer I know pretty much dislikes XDA for that very reason.
You don't see us (40+ developers) working, but that doesn't mean we aren't.
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Ah, and by the way, I've been busy too, so tiwlan on 2.6.35 is almost finished.
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Ah, and by the way, I've been busy too, so tiwlan on 2.6.35 is almost finished.
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Is this meaning that the new CM7s will have the new kernel?
By the way, what was modified in the kernel source so the tiwlan didn't compile normaly?
I don't need a new Legend, I just need some peace...
There you go
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I don't need a new Legend, I just need some peace...
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Peace be with you
Hmmm... OK, I get that my proposal could have some shortcomings, however the intent is good. It's great to hear that users donated to your Paypal, Ali Ba, perhaps other devs should just publish Paypal details too, and users can direct donations to where they feel they are most deserved?
It is not meant to be fair compensation for the numerous hours spent, as the basic principles of community development should still be the driving force. It could, however, be a token of appreciation from those unable to contribute in any other way.
I can't help but feel that there would be more devs involved with more and faster progress as a consequence, if only there was a little reward in there too. Surely that would be in everybodies interest.
In any event, I offer my thanks to all the devs here, and I would be happy to back that up with a contribution, should you decide to go that way
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Ah, and by the way, I've been busy too, so tiwlan on 2.6.35 is almost finished.
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I was working on getting wl12xx driver working with 2.6.32 kernel but I didn't succeed yet. Is there a reason not to switch to wl12xx driver instead? It also provides soft AP support int the same driver.
Regarding donations, it would be nice if I could donate you via Google checkout.
Thanks.
Yea leave Blay0 alone man, He's getting enough hassle on the Alpha thread as it is! people say they'd like to help then just request more things like a2sd,overclocked kernel etc.If you know anything about linux try helping by trying to build drivers for the last 2 bits (i.e Bluetooth,wifi)
I must say also that there were individuals who offered me donations which I respectfully refused and instead apoint those guys to their nearest charity. I'm not doing this for money (I make money doing other things) I'm just doing it coz I like to know how things work and I always like to learn new things. So if I become bored those donations definitely won't convince me to keep on doing it.
Don't you guys ever think that I'm doing all this for you! Noooope! I'm doing it for me and my own satisfaction. Yes, that's right I'm actualy a selfish, egoistic basterd but in a process of achieving my own goals (which are also inspired by some of your suggestions) I'm really happy if someone else learn something from me. They are few but it doesn't matter... they will definitelly pass on their knowledge and that's important coz I believe knowledge is universal and must be available to anyone willing to accept it and you cannot charge for that.
Don't kidd yourselves, this Legend thingie will be among us at most for another year and then it will get its successors and its community will become even smaller and eventually it will be disbanded and some of us will find new projects, learnig new thing and again passing on all the gained knowledge.
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Don't kidd yourselves, this Legend thingie will be among us at most for another year.
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A whole year is an optimistic approach
The main problem in the development of the HTC Legend is the device itself. It's a rare phone, and pretty much a very small group of people is using it. That also makes the group of talented developers thinner. Look at the Hero or SGS forums topic/post count. Sure - most of them are retarded, and previously answered questions, but still folks in the dev section are coding some crazy and amazing stuff. That's because those devices where popular and successful. The HTC Legend was ment to be the successor of the HTC Hero, but this ain't gonna happen. Nobody will remember this phone in a year or two. That's of course HTCs fault, not ours.
Also mentioning all the request, demands and stupid questions in the dev forum - this forum is not that bad
Go check the Nexus S section. For example the NexusSense topic (my girlfriend got a Nexus so I'm somewhat interested). Now that's pure fukcin massacre out there
Greets!
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A whole year is an optimistic approach
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Agreed, I thought Legend was a kickass sucessor, but very few people actually bought it...I've deserted to Desire S, but I think that's a very similar case so far anyways...
But back on topic: The thing is, everyone has an interest in what he's doing and unless he has a gain from that work he wouldn't be doing it But the idea of donating is noble ofcourse
Let's support our developers by not asking stupid and obvious questions, using search button, hitting that freakin' "thanks" button as often as we can, and most importantly by using our own brains to gain even more from their work
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Let's support our developers by not asking stupid and obvious questions, using search button, hitting that freakin' "thanks" button as often as we can, and most importantly by using our own brains to gain even more from their work
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Amen! (10char )
Agree with the great Dr!
PLUS This is a General thread so should be in the general section.....Threads should go into the right forums for a start! Hate to think how many threads there are in the wrong place :/
***UPDATE (8/25/11): This donation thread/link is now to help get the device for DJRBliss. If he is able to achieve root, he plans on keeping the device, so no funds will be returned. However, he has agreed to resell, and return money based on the percentage of the original donation- IF someone else achieves root in an unrelated effort.
Please donate with the expectation to NOT get any money back, and get ROOT instead! Again, nothing can be promised!
www.KrazyKrivda.com - Donate link and our root attempts.***
I am starting to consider taking a few extra risks and try to get this phone rooted, but since I need a reliable device for work Im considering an extra phone to work on.
I may pu up a link and ask for a "temporary donation." I would use the money to purchase a new phone to work with. Once the phone is rooted, whether by me or someone else, I will resell the device on ebay, or through the community and return money to those who originally donated.
I will only be able to return money based on percentage. Ex. If you donate 100 for a 500 device (20%), and I resell device for only 300, you will only get 60 back. *I do not ask that anyone give 100, just as a for example.*
I think it best to do it this way because I cannot promise that your donation or contribution will lead to me rooting the D3.
Feedback welcome.
-KrazyKrivda
A sidenote - #KrazyK irc is now registered, and I advise anyone with knowhow, decent ideas, and the ability to assist the droid 3 root cause to join and discuss. Please, do not join merely for updates, general gossip and such, as they will still be posted in the threads here. I would like to keep the discussion as on topic and on task as possible to expedite the possibility of root.
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I would be willing to throw some money in on this. I've also seen several people on droidforums that would probably donate also. A lot of people want root really really bad (me included).
How and where to donate?
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How and where to donate?
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I will wait a few days to see if it is worth asking for donations. I'm more than willing to throw some of my own $$ in. Hopefully we get root in a few days and this is unnecessary.
If not, and we have positive response for this, I will post a link midweek.
**NOTE: I still am in NO way guaranteeing I can root this device. Just hoping to improve the chances.
According to your post history, you seem to know your stuff, and I'd be glad to throw a couple bills your way, but have you contributed to the rooting of any other devices? Please forgive my ignorance on the matter.
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According to your post history, you seem to know your stuff, and I'd be glad to throw a couple bills your way, but have you contributed to the rooting of any other devices? Please forgive my ignorance on the matter.
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I have rooted other devices however I am in no way responsible for the method of rooting them. In terms of contribution to the android community thus far I have worked on and created a few themes, as well as some small modifications to the cm source code when I was using my original droid.
I openly admit I am not as skilled as many other developers out there however I am probably 1 of the most persistent 1s and tend not be able to drop something until what I want is accomplished. Feel free to ask anyone in the irc/forums.. I know I tend to get annoying ;-).
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Well krazykrivda I commend you and sincerely hope you get this phone rooted. And im sure some other devs could help if you ask enough. Lol I hope you get this donate link up. Every one is willing to support you it doesn't matter if you succeed or not as long as you have the same want we do.
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Well, I can contribute $200, because root for this device is very important to me. If the value of the phone goes beyond where it is right now due to the phone being rooted, you could totally keep the difference. However, if it gets bricked, well... it gets bricked. I understand that that's a possibility.
Out of curiosity... have you ever bricked a phone before?
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Out of curiosity... have you ever bricked a phone before?
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Ha, no I have not, but I've always had recovery or an sbf in worst case scenarios.
To truly brick a phone is quite difficult, and once an sbf, root, or other means are out... chances are most "bricked" devices would be fully recoverable.
And assuming I do get a test phone.. I will keep it in box as long as possible, taking chances on current device. This way I may be able to return/or sell NIB decreasing chances of losing value.
This is not for me to make $$ off of... now if I do achieve root I doubt I would turn down monetary thank yous? ;-) *wishful thinking*
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Alright cool.... show me a link brah. lol.
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I have rooted other devices however I am in no way responsible for the method of rooting them. In terms of contribution to the android community thus far I have worked on and created a few themes, as well as some small modifications to the cm source code when I was using my original droid.
I openly admit I am not as skilled as many other developers out there however I am probably 1 of the most persistent 1s and tend not be able to drop something until what I want is accomplished. Feel free to ask anyone in the irc/forums.. I know I tend to get annoying ;-).
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I can vouch for Krazy, not that it means much coming from me. But he knows what hes talking about and is the only guy ive seen actually actively trying to root this for everybody. Ive also used many of his themes on my droid . Good stuff.
rent is paid for this month so count me in with at least a $100.00 may be $200.00 if needed
I have an dev Atrix, and I can tell you a dev Droid 3 is most likely not going to help. What will work on the dev phone won't work on a retail phone. It mostly comes down to the boot process, and the signatures used to control things.
I can't say it is useless, but it will only really be useful in someone with deep knowledge of the ARM architecture, and who can disassemble code. Even then they would have to get pretty lucky.
Overall, only expect it to help after you have phone the right person, or group of people who can really dig deep, and are willing to put the time into it.
Edgan:
I am not looking into getting an actual unlocked dev phone, but a phone for me to test/develop on.
I do agree that the more that work on this, and the deeper we dig the greater are chances. I have heard good things about you and hope you can assist.
If I find someone that I feel will have better luck than me, and equal motivation.. AND willingness to the same terms I set fourth (temporary donation, and returning funds once root is achieved based on phones resale) I'd be delighted to pass this potential extra D3 into their hands (assuming the donators agree as well).
ALL:
This is a 0 profit venture for me, and a way I figure can reduce chance of bad investment for all those who DO donate. As soon as the D3 is rooted, it's resale will begin.
To reiterate, I am NOT the most skilled skilled, and I am not trying to trick anyone into give me ther money. I merely have the time, motivation, and dedication that will hopefully lead to this devices root status.
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Edgan:
I am not looking into getting an actual unlocked dev phone, but a phone for me to test/develop on.
I do agree that the more that work on this, and the deeper we dig the greater are chances. I have heard good things about you and hope you can assist.
If I find someone that I feel will have better luck than me, and equal motivation.. AND willingness to the same terms I set fourth (temporary donation, and returning funds once root is achieved based on phones resale) I'd be delighted to pass this potential extra D3 into their hands (assuming the donators agree as well).
ALL:
This is a 0 profit venture for me, and a way I figure can reduce chance of bad investment for all those who DO donate. As soon as the D3 is rooted, it's resale will begin.
To reiterate, I am NOT the most skilled skilled, and I am not trying to trick anyone into give me ther money. I merely have the time, motivation, and dedication that will hopefully lead to this devices root status.
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Too bad this isn't the X2 we are talking about. I am currently setting up my spare X2 as a gaming \ entertainment device for the household (meaning 2 year old and 1 year old). Seems like a waste of a "new" phone.
If I get a spare D3 than I would be more than happy to donate.
PS....didn't P3Droid get a D3?
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PS....didn't P3Droid get a D3?
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... yes, he did, but he has been a busy guy!
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... yes, he did, but he has been a busy guy!
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I would be willing to send my D3 to a developer for vivisection IF (!!!) I was guaranteed that he/she could make the potential brick look good for Asurion.
PM me if you want to make preliminary arrangements.
www.KrazyKrivda.com
I would have already wepayed you, but you never responded to my PM.
I just sent $400 with WePay to get KrazyKrivda a D3. I found one on eBay for 379.99. The goal on the WePay site is $500.
$100 to go people! Come on, let's make it happen
Just want to share listings which i found :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270904716829&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:GB:1123
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HTC-SENSA...52440?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones&hash=item1c233afbf8
They are not a XDA devs but they use XDA and another forum as source to make money.
People stay away from them. Devs are only the one who should have profits from their hard work in my opinion. Also theirs prices are so high for things which Devs share for free with all of us.
That's such a piss take
40 for that ?! Haha what a joke.
XDA should ban them!!
I dont think anything is wrong with it. They have taken the time to research and learn how to root and install custom roms. Some people cant comprehend or are just scared to do it themselves. I also imagine that the people who want a custom rom and are afraid to do it themselves have already come accross XDA, but still cant do it.
Although it sounds expensive to us, to some people might justify it, and the people who are doing it, should get paid for their time.
Edit: Although I do agree that the Devs should get a donation for their work.
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I dont think anything is wrong with it. They have taken the time to research and learn how to root and install custom roms. Some people cant comprehend or are just scared to do it themselves. I also imagine that the people who want a custom rom and are afraid to do it themselves have already come accross XDA, but still cant do it.
Although it sounds expensive to us, to some people might justify it, and the people who are doing it, should get paid for their time.
Edit: Although I do agree that the Devs should get a donation for their work.
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Then you are no better than them....
Have a good day.
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I could look at this two ways.
Initial impressions were "OMFG... stealing hacks"
But then if they offer a guaranteed assurance that if it bricks, your covered, then I think £40 is fair enough.
I wouldn't mind paying £40 for a guaranteed root. It's sensible.
seems fair enough to me......
i cant see the problem myself. its not as if people are been forced to use the service. the only reason i wont root is i just know i'll brick my phone. i simply dont have time to read countless pages on how to do it, and after spending too much time messing about on my hd2, i dont think the better half would be as forgiving again. so, £40 for a service which i'd quiet like but i'll NEVER do myself seems pretty good to me. as for people shouting for them to be banned from xda......just LOL.........
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i cant see the problem myself. its not as if people are been forced to use the service. the only reason i wont root is i just know i'll brick my phone. i simply dont have time to read countless pages on how to do it, and after spending too much time messing about on my hd2, i dont think the better half would be as forgiving again. so, £40 for a service which i'd quiet like but i'll NEVER do myself seems pretty good to me. as for people shouting for them to be banned from xda......just LOL.........
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Countless pages? Are you serious mate?
OK, I've assembled a quick guide for you.
Requirements:
Brain
Htc Sensation
Electricity
Computer with access to internet
Hands
Knowing how to read
Then its easy:
Follow this link and do it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Have a good day.
Hmm, the free market filling a niche for people who can't be bothered to learn a few new skills - it ain't new people, I recall the exact same indignation when Android first arrived for the hd2 and people sold 'installation kits'.
There's no way to stop it, no matter now easy the noob guides are - you only have to read the cries for help in the forum to realise that some people simply cannot understand something written down.
You'd hope their conscience made them donate to the dev's, but I wouldn't bet on it.
dmcb123 said:
XDA should ban them!!
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How can XDA ban them?
beston94 said:
Countless pages? Are you serious mate?
OK, I've assembled a quick guide for you.
Requirements:
Brain
Htc Sensation
Electricity
Computer with access to internet
Hands
Knowing how to read
Then its easy:
Follow this link and do it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Have a good day.
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or you could just pay someone £35 to do it for you......., lazy i know, but hey, thats life.........
ps: i just checked your link and the HUGE WALLS OF TEXT just puts me off, i'd defo pay for the service if i ever wanted to root my phone....
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Hmm, the free market filling a niche for people who can't be bothered to learn a few new skills - it ain't new people, I recall the exact same indignation when Android first arrived for the hd2 and people sold 'installation kits'.
There's no way to stop it, no matter now easy the noob guides are - you only have to read the cries for help in the forum to realise that some people simply cannot understand something written down.
You'd hope their conscience made them donate to the dev's, but I wouldn't bet on it.
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this. i tried walking a guy (he was asking help on craigslist) thru installing android on a hd2, and he couldn't follow my directions...
If devs don't mind and there is a buyer willing to pay for the service why not.
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donwhann said:
or you could just pay someone £35 to do it for you......., lazy i know, but hey, thats life.........
ps: i just checked your link and the HUGE WALLS OF TEXT just puts me off, i'd defo pay for the service if i ever wanted to root my phone....
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Exactly. Not every one is smart. Not every one has TIME
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hope they die and burn in hell, get reincarnated, die, go to hell and burn. x200
illuminarias said:
hope they die and burn in hell, get reincarnated, die, go to hell and burn. x200
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Bit harsh perhaps?
illuminarias said:
hope they die and burn in hell, get reincarnated, die, go to hell and burn. x200
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for charging £35-£40 for the service ?, perhaps £15-£20 might have been better.......
I don't seem the harm if the devs are ok with it either. I mean back in the days, before rooting, people were paying people like davinciteam to "unlock" the phones to get the bloated carrier software off the phones. No, Davinci is not exactly the same as these ebay listers, but it's the service you are paying for, bottom line.
If you don't like it, don't use it.
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Exactly. Not every one is smart. Not every one has TIME
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Not everyone is smart? Are you kidding me? A 10 year old could follow the instructions and complete the s-off and root and flash a custom rom.
What the hell is happening to our world?
Here is my advice to you "not smart" people: USE YOUR BRAIN.
Let me know what you guys think???
A place for rookies and anvance hackers - testing ROMS and stuff!
VerizonTBolt
www.verizontbolt.webuda.com
Nicw thanks
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Let me know what you guys think???
A place for rookies and anvance hackers - testing ROMS and stuff!
VerizonTBolt
www.verizontbolt.webuda.com
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Don't take this the wrong way, but creating a website for the Thunderbolt right now is like showing up late to a party with a 12 pack of Bud Light. Everyone will be happy you came, but you didn't bring anything that wasn't already there. Now, if you show up with a bottle of Single Barrel Jack Daniel's, you will be the shiznit at the party. So, if you can, please try to bring something different to your website. With that said, I'll be sure to keep checking on your site, it's always nice to have more people at the party.
COMING SOON!!!!!!!
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Thanks for the input guys!
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Don't take this the wrong way, but creating a website for the Thunderbolt right now is like showing up late to a party with a 12 pack of Bud Light. Everyone will be happy you came, but you didn't bring anything that wasn't already there. Now, if you show up with a bottle of Single Barrel Jack Daniel's, you will be the shiznit at the party. So, if you can, please try to bring something different to your website. With that said, I'll be sure to keep checking on your site, it's always nice to have more people at the party.
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To be honest, I love this idea. It's kind of hard to find updated roms and mods for any phone, not to mention the Thunderbolt. BeardedMan... Why is making a website like this, which will (hopefully) be a good hub for Thunderbolt mods and roms, getting "late to the party?" Is there another website out there like this, besides the android forms or Rom Manager? If there is, I'd like to know.
frankzua77, I would like to say thank you. If this website becomes what I think it will, it will make modding the Thunderbolt so much easier. If you need any help, just let me know.
I think the problem beardedman is referencing is the fact that there are a lot of android websites/forums already (even thunderbolt specific) and that there are a lot of much newer phones getting the attention. I have yet to not find anything I'm looking for without a 10 second search on Google. And the Thunderbolt is real close to being yesterday's superphone, if it's not already.
Plus, the problem with any of these sites is someone has to maintain it...which means sifting through posts, updating daily, etc. Unless it's a wiki that anyone can update, it's the same reason that the stickies all get outdated. Heck, it's the same reason I've started threads on many forums for many topics trying to compile information and eventually given up.
Now that I've rained on the parade and come off as a prick, I do applaud the effort...even if it doesn't stay updated or become the hub you imagine, at least you have an idea and a passion and are trying to do something about it. Don't lose that. And who knows...maybe it's just what the community needs
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/htc-thunderbolt-forum/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=940
http://www.teambamf.net/index.php/forum/15-htc-thunderbolt/
http://themikmik.com/forumdisplay.php?1004-HTC-Thunderbolt-ROM-Development
http://androidforums.com/htc-thunderbolt/
I have a "Thunderbolt" folder in my Bookmarks (just like I used to with my Incredible) that I have the five links in. I can open all the links and catch up with all the newest Thunderbolt news, for the most part. And the Thunderbolt is old news actually, just being honest.
TUDrewser understood what I meant, I wasn't being rude. ThunderNet, trying checking the above sites, I bet you'll find answers to whatever questions you have.
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To be honest, I love this idea. It's kind of hard to find updated roms and mods for any phone, not to mention the Thunderbolt. BeardedMan... Why is making a website like this, which will (hopefully) be a good hub for Thunderbolt mods and roms, getting "late to the party?" Is there another website out there like this, besides the android forms or Rom Manager? If there is, I'd like to know.
frankzua77, I would like to say thank you. If this website becomes what I think it will, it will make modding the Thunderbolt so much easier. If you need any help, just let me know.
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Please see my sig..
Users can submit a MOD, Downlad mods or whatever right from the web.
Still a WIP, but just needs attention.
Not knocking this idea at all, but should really consider opening it up to a wiki format and not center only on the thunderbolt.
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I really appreciate everyone that makes their point, I am currently working on the page. One of my goals is to have videos that can show you a ROM even before you consider downloading it. I know we are focusing on the tbolt, who knows maybe later on this expands to having other phones and stuff...
I need your help on deciding on a domain name! Right now im using a free domain service but I would like to purchase a domain, any ideas???
Also please click on the ads on the bottom as this is how the site will be funded for right now.
www.verizontbolt.webuda.com
Interesting
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