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[Q] Flash custom rom without custom recovery? possible?

Hi!
I've succesfully rootet my SGS. testet wtih terminal, and i got the # sign.
Also, I have suoer users installed, and granted access to ROM manager, e.g.
Now, I would like to flash darky's custom ROM. And usually, i would boot into custom recovery menu and wipe, and apply zip from sd. (this was on my HTC).
Well, this is causing me some problems. I would rather not use Odin, as it seem a bit unsafe but I installed ROM manager, and flashed Clockwork Mod recovery. Now, when I reboot into custom recovery I get the stock android recovery, though ROM manager, says my current version of clowckwork mod is installed, and all went succesfull.
Now, my question is. Can i rename the zip file update.zip and flash with the stock android recovery anyway?

When you flash clockwork i think it just puts a .zip file on the sd card so youbshould try flashing the custom recovery through stock recovery. If not then ODIN is the way to go which can be perfectly safe if done properly.
*You have to select reinstall packages i think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734166
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Tuptup said:
When you flash clockwork i think it just puts a .zip file on the sd card so youbshould try flashing the custom recovery through stock recovery. If not then ODIN is the way to go which can be perfectly safe if done properly.
*You have to select reinstall packages i think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734166
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Thanks
I never get into clockwork mod, so I guess I dont get the option to reinstall packages... The only option I have beside wiping and reboot is to apply update.zip from sdcard in android recovery. But I don't think there is any update.zip on my sdcard. not last i checked at least. Guess Ill have to go with Odin then :/

Usually the option to reinstall packages is on stock recovery. I might be wrong but odin is easy to do if you get the right firmware for your phone. Sorry i ciuldnt help more.
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Tuptup said:
Usually the option to reinstall packages is on stock recovery. I might be wrong but odin is easy to do if you get the right firmware for your phone. Sorry i ciuldnt help more.
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Thanks again. I get wiser by the hour
I think im on android recovery (3e) as I recall, perhaps they removed it
I was wandering. I found the clockworkmod.zip /recovery_update.zip on the sd-card. if I move this to root of sdcard and rename to update.zip, can I then flash it via android recovery with the "apply update.zip from sdcard" function, or is this not for the purpose?

That might work, you may aswell try butif not try looking at the url i posted and see if it helps. If not then im sorry for wasting your time :S
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Tuptup said:
That might work, you may aswell try butif not try looking at the url i posted and see if it helps. If not then im sorry for wasting your time :S
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thanks, but i think Im caught in between... i cant choose reinstall packages, and I need to get back to stock kernel...
got download mode to work now, and think I know what to do from here. thanks for the link and response

Finally - reverted back to stock android recovery 2e and flash clockworkmod recovery.... but - a new problem... when in clockworkmod, i need to choose zip from sd card, when i go into this, and choose external sd, it says no files
what to do? the files are there, when I put in the sd card in the PC the files are there...

Not entirely sure but i think you're meant to put the .zip on the internal sd. If not then maybe the sd card is not fat32 format. This is only speculation :S
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New captivate will not flash 2.1

I've got a newer captivate just recently through warranty due to it no longer charging. Well this one came factory with 2.2. I know 2.2 had 3e recovery and I've done the fix to flash unsigned files and was able to get into cwm but it failed everyone I tried to flash a rom. I've tried to flash standard 2.1 and rogers 2.1 via odin3 one click and odin 1.81 via the pit and tar files. Neither way will get my phone working on 2.1. So I have to resort back to the stock 2.2 or rogers 2.2. What am I doing wrong? I just want my custom roms back!!! Please find it in your hearts to help even though I've pissed off a few people with my 3e recovery question.
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s13envy said:
I've got a newer captivate just recently through warranty due to it no longer charging. Well this one came factory with 2.2. I know 2.2 had 3e recovery and I've done the fix to flash unsigned files and was able to get into cwm but it failed everyone I tried to flash a rom. I've tried to flash standard 2.1 and rogers 2.1 via odin3 one click and odin 1.81 via the pit and tar files. Neither way will get my phone working on 2.1. So I have to resort back to the stock 2.2 or rogers 2.2. What am I doing wrong? I just want my custom roms back!!! Please find it in your hearts to help even though I've pissed off a few people with my 3e recovery question.
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Try using the 3e recovery fix in Trusselo's sig - just unzip and use the .bat file with your phone plugged (in debugging).
It should let you flash a custom ROM after that. No need to go back to stock.
As for Odin, your phone could be a recent build and you need a specefic odin for 1010 and up.
EDIT: What was the error when you were trying to flash a ROM through cwm?

BWolf56 said:
Try using the 3e recovery fix in Trusselo's sig - just unzip and use the .bat file with your phone plugged (in debugging).
It should let you flash a custom ROM after that. No need to go back to stock.
As for Odin, your phone could be a recent build and you need a specefic odin for 1010 and up.
EDIT: What was the error when you were trying to flash a ROM through cwm?
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I unzipped the modified recovery file to the /bin folder via root explorer. Haven't read anything about a .bat file though.
Here is the error I received in cwm after selecting the rom zip:
E:cant mount /dev/block/mmcblk0 (or /dev/block/mmcblk0p1)
(device or resource buys)
E:can't mount SDCARD:ROM.zip
Installation aborted
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s13envy said:
I unzipped the modified recovery file to the /bin folder via root explorer. Haven't read anything about a .bat file though.
Here is the error I received in cwm after selecting the rom zip:
E:cant mount /dev/block/mmcblk0 (or /dev/block/mmcblk0p1)
(device or resource buys)
E:can't mount SDCARD:ROM.zip
Installation aborted
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Well it's not really needed but the .bat file will run a command that will place the recovery for you through your computer.
Not needed since you moved it yourself using root explorer (make sure you're in mount r/w).
Did you try it after placing the new recovery and rebooting your phone?

what are you trying to flash?
how are you flashing it? with the fixed 3e recovery? or with cwm?
did you rename it properly 'update.zip' for 3e?

TRusselo said:
what are you trying to flash?
how are you flashing it? with the fixed 3e recovery? or with cwm?
did you rename it properly 'update.zip' for 3e?
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I was trying to flash continuum 4. I tried flashing it through cwm in recovery mode. Named the cwm file update.zip rebooted into 3e recovery mode (with the modded recovery file) selected "reinstall packages" then tried to select the continuum rom and thats where I got the error message.
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s13envy said:
I was trying to flash continuum 4. I tried flashing it through cwm in recovery mode. Named the cwm file update.zip rebooted into 3e recovery mode (with the modded recovery file) selected "reinstall packages" then tried to select the continuum rom and thats where I got the error message.
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when you select reinstall package, it searches for a file named update.zip on the root of your sd and flashes it so there's nothing more that you have to do.
Now did you fix your problem? I can't tell by the way you wrote that lol
Did you name the file update.zip? or did you name it update?
If you named it update.zip.. it reads it as update.zip.zip as it is a zip file. So all you have to do is to name is "update" with the ".zip" being the type of file.

BWolf56 said:
when you select reinstall package, it searches for a file named update.zip on the root of your sd and flashes it so there's nothing more that you have to do.
Now did you fix your problem? I can't tell by the way you wrote that lol
Did you name the file update.zip? or did you name it update?
If you named it update.zip.. it reads it as update.zip.zip as it is a zip file. So all you have to do is to name is "update" with the ".zip" being the type of file.
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So youre saying that I can flash roms without going into cwm ? I get into cwm by naming it "update" so I can open it up by selecting "reinstall packages" in the recovery menu. I cant have cwm renamed as "update" and the rom I want to flash as "update" right?
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After you reinstall packages, does it take you to CWM recovery?

s13envy said:
So youre saying that I can flash roms without going into cwm ? I get into cwm by naming it "update" so I can open it up by selecting "reinstall packages" in the recovery menu. I cant have cwm renamed as "update" and the rom I want to flash as "update" right?
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If you moved the 3e recovery fix in /system/bin, you will get into cwm recovery after reinstall package (I believe you have to to it twice as the phone only reboots the 1st time).
Now most of the new ROM have a kernel with built in cwm recovery in their full flash. Which is why you can rename the file to update and reinstall package.
But if you're on 2.2 - you do need the 3e recovery fix so you can get past the signature verification.
Also, you can only have 1 file named update(.zip) in the root of your sd and you want it to be the full ROM file.

majinzen said:
After you reinstall packages, does it take you to CWM recovery?
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Yes. It will take me to cwm. But after I select install rom from sd card and select the rom is when I get the error message I posted above.
I will try flashing it by renaming the rom update.zip and see if it will install that way.
I want my old captivate back. Or just wish I could flash it back to 2.1 lol
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s13envy said:
Yes. It will take me to cwm. But after I select install rom from sd card and select the rom is when I get the error message I posted above.
I will try flashing it by renaming the rom update.zip and see if it will install that way.
I want my old captivate back. Or just wish I could flash it back to 2.1 lol
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If it takes you to cwm.. You can just "install zip from sd card" - What the file is called won't change anything.
And believe me, once you're on a custom ROM, you won't want to go back.

BWolf56 said:
If it takes you to cwm.. You can just "install zip from sd card" - What the file is called won't change anything.
And believe me, once you're on a custom ROM, you won't want to go back.
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I understand what you're saying about flashing the rom from cwm but as I said before it gives me an error message as soon as I select the rom from my sd card. Could the rom file be corrupt or does that error message seem more phone related?
And I meant it as I wanted to go back to my old captivate and 2.1 bc I had no problems flashing roms on it. I've already flashed cognition and serendipity on my old phone with little problems. This new captivate is being a pain in my ass.
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s13envy said:
I understand what you're saying about flashing the rom from cwm but as I said before it gives me an error message as soon as I select the rom from my sd card. Could the rom file be corrupt or does that error message seem more phone related?
And I meant it as I wanted to go back to my old captivate and 2.1 bc I had no problems flashing roms on it. I've already flashed cognition and serendipity on my old phone with little problems. This new captivate is being a pain in my ass.
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Haha.
Well I'd say to try a different ROM. I duno which one you're trying to install but make sure of 2 things:
1. It's Froyo based.
2. It's a full flash ROM (not only a update)

BWolf56 said:
Haha.
Well I'd say to try a different ROM. I duno which one you're trying to install but make sure of 2 things:
1. It's Froyo based.
2. It's a full flash ROM (not only a update)
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I was trying to install continuum v4 themed.
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s13envy said:
I was trying to install continuum v4 themed.
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As I said, try flashing a different one.
Also, you could try flashing it through Odin (not the one click) but only if you know exactly what you're doing. I had some bad experience with that hehe

BWolf56 said:
As I said, try flashing a different one.
Also, you could try flashing it through Odin (not the one click) but only if you know exactly what you're doing. I had some bad experience with that hehe
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I only know to take the pit and tar files in odin. It seems like it'd be easier to flash roms through odin if thats possible. I will try to flash a new rom tonight and see what happens
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I wonder if it's possible to flash a new kernel with sgs kernel flasher and then go from there.
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1tontomato said:
I wonder if it's possible to flash a new kernel with sgs kernel flasher and then go from there.
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i have noooooo clue lol
i'm getting ready to try and flash serendipity 6.4. SHould i do a master clear first?

well i tried to flash seredipity 6.4 using the cwm, and selecting it from the sd card and got this error again:
E:cant mount /dev/block/mmcblk0 (or /dev/block/mmcblk0p1)
(device or resource buys)
E:can't mount SDCARD:ROM.zip
Installation aborted
I'm going to try renaming the seredipity zip to update.zip and see if it works that way

[Q] Problem trying to flash a custom rom onto a galaxy s on orange uk - recovery mode

I've downloaded ROM manager and clicked on 'flash clockwork recovery'. this placed a 'update.zip' onto my phone. I downloaded a custom ROM and placed this zip in the same place. in ROM manager i choose install from sd card, locate the custom rom and select it. i reboot into clockwork recovery mode and i get the 'android system recovery mode' The options at the top are in blue. i believe this is wrong?
I'm led to believe i should click on 'apply sdcard:update.zip' but when i do i get
E:failed to verify whole-file signature
E:signature verification failed
Install aborted
I'm using a samsung galaxy s with the standard orange rom.
Any ideas?

U need to root your device first... flash a kernel like speedmod and it'll rot ur device after this u can install ur custom rom. remember while flashing via odin repartition should be unchecked

You would root and then just need to flash update.zip, dont place rom anywhere near it. I would delete your current update.zip and go through process (minus rom) again.
Alternatively and easier, is what ^^ he said.
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I've already rooted my phone.
Dont i need to put the downloaded mod on my sdcard to install it? :/
Rom manager puts the update.zip file there but when i try to run it it fails :/

Yep place the rom into sdcard/
Sometimes in stock recovery, you may have to choose flash update.zip twice to install cwm
However
Mate, if you can use odin, just flash a pre rooted kernel with cwm installed. Should take about 5 mins to download and flash. Chainfire would probably be my recommendation.
Make sure you read kernel flashing instructions before you start.
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woolf clubs said:
Yep place the rom into sdcard/
Sometimes in stock recovery, you may have to choose flash update.zip twice to install cwm
However
Mate, if you can use odin, just flash a pre rooted kernel with cwm installed. Should take about 5 mins to download and flash. Chainfire would probably be my recommendation.
Make sure you read kernel flashing instructions before you start.
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When i hit the flash update zip i get the verification error :/
Ive tried it a few times so..
Okay i have odin and a kernel.
Only thing is i need to get to get my phone to download mode to apply the kernel through odin?
And my phone wont go into this mode :/ or recovery mode

How did you root?
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I used superoneclick.
bad move?

Not at all, just curious. Can you not force download mode via adb? (havent needed to use it myself, so can't advise further)
i would suggest you apply the 3 button combo fix though before proceeding. If you can get into dl mode, its nigh impossible to brick, if not, then its all too easy.....
Dont rush mate, have a good search and read-up first.
Hope I've helped some.
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woolf clubs said:
Not at all, just curious. Can you not force download mode via adb? (havent needed to use it myself, so can't advise further)
i would suggest you apply the 3 button combo fix though before proceeding. If you can get into dl mode, its nigh impossible to brick, if not, then its all too easy.....
Dont rush mate, have a good search and read-up first.
Hope I've helped some.
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I'll take a look at the 3 button combo fix and the adb method.
Thanks for all your help

No worries. Cwm method will only work with 2e recovery - if you have 3e, then you will need dl mode odin and kernel.
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Can't get Clockwork Recovery flashed on my T959

Ok, I have ROM Manager premium installed, rooted, etc. I'm running 2.2 version UVKB5 on my T Mobile Samsung Vibrant.
I've selected the option to Flash ClockworkMod Recovery for the "Samsung Vibrant" and it won't boot to CWR. If I select reintall packages, it fails every time.
Help!

did you install both the free and premium version of rom manager?

kcfried said:
Ok, I have ROM Manager premium installed, rooted, etc. I'm running 2.2 version UVKB5 on my T Mobile Samsung Vibrant.
I've selected the option to Flash ClockworkMod Recovery for the "Samsung Vibrant" and it won't boot to CWR. If I select reintall packages, it fails every time.
Help!
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Make sure the "update.zip" file is on your Int SD card... power off your phone.
While holding down the Vol up+down, press and hold all 3 buttons till the "Samsung/Vibrant splash screen pops up.
You should boot into stock recovery, use vol up and down to move up and down and choose "reinstall update" with power... it should reboot and bring you right back to where you were... repeat choose "reinstall update" with power... now you should boot into CWM recoery.

I think the problem is that you have the new recovery (3e I think) that requires signed update.zip files. I'd recommend using Odin3 to flash another kernel which will come with CWM. If you don't want to do that, there is a guide somewhere on xda to allow 3e recovery to flash unsigned update.zip files.
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phantomsniper773 said:
I think the problem is that you have the new recovery (3e I think) that requires signed update.zip files. I'd recommend using Odin3 to flash another kernel which will come with CWM. If you don't want to do that, there is a guide somewhere on xda to allow 3e recovery to flash unsigned update.zip files.
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Exactly clockwork will not install with 3e recovery. Either flash a new kernel or do the 3e mod recovery. Odin will take 1 min to complete its process of flashing a kernel, you should definitely do this. Or just go back to stock and start your flashing journey from there.

aeok18109 said:
did you install both the free and premium version of rom manager?
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Yup, I installed ROM Manager, then bought the premium key. I've got all functionality available to me.
Only problem is that when it flashes the recovery, nothing happens. If I reboot to recovery, it says the update.zip has an invalid signature. It seems nothing works. Am I supposed to flash back to droid 2.1 to get this thing working? It seems like it should be easier than this....

ferhanmm said:
Exactly clockwork will not install with 3e recovery. Either flash a new kernel or do the 3e mod recovery. Odin will take 1 min to complete its process of flashing a kernel, you should definitely do this. Or just go back to stock and start your flashing journey from there.
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Thanks for the info. Any suggestions on kernels to use and a link for more info on what specifically a kernel is/does? Last thing I want to do is brick this puppy
Update...
Ok, did a little google-fu and found some links. I am using 3e, so ODIN it is! Thanks for the nudge int he right direction - wish me luck!

you can download this and used it to flash back to stock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954509 .and root and then try rom manger again this work for me all the time.

phantomsniper773 said:
I think the problem is that you have the new recovery (3e I think) that requires signed update.zip files. I'd recommend using Odin3 to flash another kernel which will come with CWM. If you don't want to do that, there is a guide somewhere on xda to allow 3e recovery to flash unsigned update.zip files.
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Richcar said:
you can download this and used it to flash back to stock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954509 .and root and then try rom manger again this work for me all the time.
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Yes, you are correct... another solution is to Odin the KB5 kernel with Voodoo and Recovery, make sure nothing check in Odin - LINK

Richcar said:
you can download this and used it to flash back to stock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954509 .and root and then try rom manger again this work for me all the time.
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Well ****. I got CWM on there, installed zip from SD card (latest Cyanogen for vibrant) and now the thing's in an infinite reboot loop. ARRRGH! What now?

kcfried said:
Well ****. I got CWM on there, installed zip from SD card (latest Cyanogen for vibrant) and now the thing's in an infinite reboot loop. ARRRGH! What now?
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Cotton needs new shorts! In CWM recovery, I did another wipe/format, reinstalled the zip and BOOYAH, it's done!
Thanks VEYR much for everybody's help!

kcfried said:
Cotton needs new shorts! In CWM recovery, I did another wipe/format, reinstalled the zip and BOOYAH, it's done!
Thanks VEYR much for everybody's help!
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Originally Posted by kcfried
Well ****. I got CWM on there, installed zip from SD card (latest Cyanogen for vibrant) and now the thing's in an infinite reboot loop. ARRRGH! What now?
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If your running CyanogenMod, there no way around Odin'ing to get back to stock. CyanogenMod (CM7) changes the partitioning to MTD from Stock RFS/Ext4. Only way to get that back is to Odin back to stock.

Custom ROM question.

I currently have a rooted SGH-T879. I have never installed a custom ROM before but I would like to install CM10.
The problems I am having are
- CMW and TWRP only have i717 (would this work)?
- I cannot boot into recovery mode. (When I do the button combo it's a black screen after the samsung logo and when I use an app to boot into recovery it soft bricks the phone.
- I am getting a installation aborted error when I tried to install it before the recovery mode stopped working.
The files I have are:
[email protected] (file name exactly as typed)
gapps-jb-20130301-signed.zip (file name exactly as typed)
I also have USB debugging and Unknown sources checked.
Please help, this is far more complicated than the jailbreak on ios that I was used to. Thanks

Do yoi have a custom recovery installed? If so, which one? Did you root the phone via odin?
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androidmechanic said:
Do yoi have a custom recovery installed? If so, which one? Did you root the phone via odin?
Currently I do not have a custom recovery, I had CWM 5.0 previously but I am trying to install CWM 5.8.4.3 or TWRP 2.3.1.1 which I think are latest for my Note. Those are coming to no avail also.
CWM - the progress bar isn't moving when using the .tar file (used odin 1.85 and 3.04 and 3.07)
TWRP - odin crashes after using the .img.tar.md5 file after it verifies files.
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Maybe need to uninstall odin then reinstall the latest version and reroot. May have a corrupted odin download
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Three fresh downloads, still have the same results.