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copilot 7 and traffic

anyone know how to purchase the traffic updates on copilot 7?

Havent got my phone on me at mo but if I remember rightly you have to purchase them through the app itself. I came across a screen think it was the about screen and it has ticks and crosses for what you have and what you dont have. There was an update button there. Sorry I cant be more specific will look when I am near my phone and let you know later if you cant find it.

cheers desktop i feel i have tried anything and im tearing my hair out now!! im tempted to jump ship to tomtom because this is ridiculous product should be easily useable! when i go to live and connect it doesnt even connect to the internet! have you had any problems with copilot 7?

if i go to the licensing screen it says upgrade and then i put my reg key in and it says i have am incorrect product key!!!! so frustrating!

I have only had the product since yesterday so not had a chance to really use it much yet. From driving round town with it yesterday I definately prefer it to copilot 6. Its easier to follow and warns you of speed cameras without losing the map of where you are. Seemed to take me on better routes than copilot 6 did too.
As for the live bit I havent tried that yet. Most people arent interested when I am going to arrive! Besides they'd just ring me on my other mobile to find out where I am!! lol
Have you managed to upgrade to traffic yet?

no still cant get the traffic to work can you check the steps to upgrade so i can have a go! cheers mate

Just one question about CoPilot Live 6 or 7. Do they support Text 2 Speech? When you are driving does it tell you the names of the streets?
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tariq_niazi said:
Just one question about CoPilot Live 6 or 7. Do they support Text 2 Speech? When you are driving does it tell you the names of the streets?
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Yes it Does.
JPHCCFC said:
cheers desktop i feel i have tried anything and im tearing my hair out now!! im tempted to jump ship to tomtom because this is ridiculous product should be easily useable! when i go to live and connect it doesnt even connect to the internet! have you had any problems with copilot 7?
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I have been using copiolt for over 3 years on my laptop and after calling them many many times I still can't get live services to work. I expect the same on the PPC version of the software and thats why I choose not to buy it. When talking to customer service they say they get their traffic updates from yahoo traffic and their servers must be down. BS!
My suggestion is to go with Telenav for the 30 day free trial and get the GarminXT Micro sd card when it comes out later this month for $99. I have mine on preorder and hope to get it before my 30 day trial runs out. Telenav works great but you can't navigate to a contact in your phone book. You must enter the address manuly, it uses your 3G or Edge connection constantly while navigating. And it's $10 a month after 30 days or $99 a year. A BIG + is that you can enter a address by voice though.

Another question for anyone who has owned CoPilot before. For the Live Traffic, do you pay annually or is it once after you buy it? Also, when I get the memory card (which is 2GB), if I copy everything to my 8GB microSDHC, will everything work?
I am really considering buying this software as TomTom is giving me a lot of problem with Live Traffic (it is due to the free map that I am using but I don't have space to put in the entire US map yet). Also, the interface looks much nicer and I really need the Text2Speech thing for my navigation as TomTom sometimes confuses me.
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tariq_niazi said:
Another question for anyone who has owned CoPilot before. For the Live Traffic, do you pay annually or is it once after you buy it? Also, when I get the memory card (which is 2GB), if I copy everything to my 8GB microSDHC, will everything work?
I am really considering buying this software as TomTom is giving me a lot of problem with Live Traffic (it is due to the free map that I am using but I don't have space to put in the entire US map yet). Also, the interface looks much nicer and I really need the Text2Speech thing for my navigation as TomTom sometimes confuses me.
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You dont have to pay for live service. At least not on the laptop version. But once again I haven't been able to get it to work.

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tariq_niazi said:
Another question for anyone who has owned CoPilot before. For the Live Traffic, do you pay annually or is it once after you buy it? Also, when I get the memory card (which is 2GB), if I copy everything to my 8GB microSDHC, will everything work?
I am really considering buying this software as TomTom is giving me a lot of problem with Live Traffic (it is due to the free map that I am using but I don't have space to put in the entire US map yet). Also, the interface looks much nicer and I really need the Text2Speech thing for my navigation as TomTom sometimes confuses me.
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I just got the CoPilot Live 7 software and I've tried everything possible to get it to work and nothing. I copied the 2GB microSD contents over to my 6GB card and executed an autorun and nothing. Tried again and launched the .cab file and nothing. Hooked it up to the laptop and installed the software from there saving it to the storage care ... nothing. I uninstalled between each load attempts and absolutely nothing. I don't want to put it on the phone as it runs from their dang SD card, so why won't it run from mine? Has to be some kind of proprietary thing or a bug. I don't want to load it on the main memory as I'm runing out. I've used CoPilot since version 3 and have always saved it onto the card.
If anyone can help, I'd greatly appreciate it.

COPILOT 7 Traffic Free
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COPILOT 7 Traffic Free

Recommended Satnav (GPS) program?

Hey, I just upgraded to the official sprint rom and hate their satellite nav program, but anyway, I wanted to know if anyone has any recommended software for use with the phone, my friend recommends Garmin XT but I can't find for sure if it even works with the Mogul. Thanks in advance.

Lilinka said:
Hey, I just upgraded to the official sprint rom and hate their satellite nav program, but anyway, I wanted to know if anyone has any recommended software for use with the phone, my friend recommends Garmin XT but I can't find for sure if it even works with the Mogul. Thanks in advance.
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Garmin XT works perfectly with the mogul. i have it on mines, you dont even need to use the GPS Launcher. it detects it automatically. i also have tomtom 6 navigator on mines as well. it works well too, but you have to use a gps launcher with that one.

A GPS launcher? Forgive the newbishness, but whassat?

Lilinka said:
A GPS launcher? Forgive the newbishness, but whassat?
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Some GPS programs dont detect the mogul's internal Gps, so the Gps launcher, activates gps as well as the program at the same time.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17072
this is where i read up on it. However the Garmin XT Mobile doesnt require the launcher in order to use the mogul internal gps.

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Garmin XT works perfectly with the mogul. i have it on mines, you dont even need to use the GPS Launcher. it detects it automatically. i also have tomtom 6 navigator on mines as well. it works well too, but you have to use a gps launcher with that one.
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Could you comment on whether or not Garmin XT has text-to-speech for street names? During my limited experience with TomTom (on a friend's phone), I noticed that TomTom didn't have this feature (or it wasn't turned on by default). Does Garmin XT announce street names?
Thanks.

NO, it does not have this feature or none that I can see. But it does work great, I think I like tom tom for some of the other features like advanced routing and I think the maps tom tom are more accurate. For example I get a lock at my house and it says that I am at 1057 and should be 1017.
But for the most part is works great.

Here is another vote for Garmin XT...
It does not read out the street names but I have found that I don't really need stephen hawkings telling me what the name of the street is as long as it is telling me when to make the turn! LOL
The Garmin also does a better job on streets with two names which is common in rural areas...
I live on a street that is a county road AND a state highway...
In Tom Tom I had to use the county road to enter in addresses but with Garmin it would take either street name and still find it.
There are a few nav proggies that do read names out to you but I don't think any of them have the other features and huge POI database of Garmin or Tom Tom.
I have both of those installed (8GB SD Card) and I have to say I never use the Tom Tom just the Garmin!

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Here is another vote for Garmin XT...
It does not read out the street names but I have found that I don't really need stephen hawkings telling me what the name of the street is as long as it is telling me when to make the turn! LOL
The Garmin also does a better job on streets with two names which is common in rural areas...
I live on a street that is a county road AND a state highway...
In Tom Tom I had to use the county road to enter in addresses but with Garmin it would take either street name and still find it.
There are a few nav proggies that do read names out to you but I don't think any of them have the other features and huge POI database of Garmin or Tom Tom.
I have both of those installed (8GB SD Card) and I have to say I never use the Tom Tom just the Garmin!
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Hi,
Please bare with me as I am very new to this.
I got my new Mogul last week and I do have unlimited internet and text msg on my plan. Is that sufficient to get me going with GPS? Or will I be billed for using GPS on my Mogul(Sprint)? Pls let me know as I am very much interested in using GPS.
Thx in adv.

pakka008 said:
Is that sufficient to get me going with GPS? Or will I be billed for using GPS on my Mogul(Sprint)? Pls let me know as I am very much interested in using GPS.
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You really don't need either to use GPS unless you are going to use google maps or ms live. Then you would need internet connection.
Garmin, IGO, Tom Tom and others use the gps receiver in the phone that uses the sats in the sky without the need for monthly fees. So if you only wanted to use the phone and gps (no internet or sms) then you would not need a data plan or sms plan.

pakka008 said:
Hi,
Please bare with me as I am very new to this.
I got my new Mogul last week and I do have unlimited internet and text msg on my plan. Is that sufficient to get me going with GPS? Or will I be billed for using GPS on my Mogul(Sprint)? Pls let me know as I am very much interested in using GPS.
Thx in adv.
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If you have unlimited Data package then you can use pretty much any GPS program you want. No extra charges at all! They don't charge for the use of the GPS and you only need the data connection if you use a program that downloads maps on the fly. (Google or MS). I personally don't like that because if I happen to get to an area where the data service isn't available you won't get a map until you get back into a data service area.
A program like Garmin and Tom Tom will also use data connections if you have them but that is only to download updated traffic data. Both Garmin and TT store the maps on the device. If you have a large SD card (like my 8GB) you can store the entire North America map with all the POI data which takes up about 2GB (a little less) of space. IF you don't have a lot of storage space you will have to download a partial map that covers the area your going to be driving in. May seem like a pain but it makes the operation a lot better to have the maps local and always available.
IF you have good storage space and unlimited Data, then your pretty much set. Make your choice based on the features of the program.
If you want to get a feel for each go to your local electronics store and try out the standalone TomTom and Garmin units. They pretty much run the same software (similar) to what you'll get on the PPC.
Google and MS are free so you can easily try them too if you want.
I personally love my Garmin. I bought the GPS10 and it works great. But don't buy the SD card versions...Get the CD which will allow you to install on the PC any SD card instead. Then you can install to any size SD card you want with plenty of room for other things as well!

Do you guys know of any problems with the install on a Titan 6800? garmin xt

ok i want this is it free or it cost money but if its free where can i download it

bpratt - Absolutely no issues installing GXT on a 6800 but it does require at least a 2GB+ memory card to store the maps and program. With GTX you don't actually install it onto the device it really installs into the memory card. When you put the memory card into the device it then adds the bits it needs to the device and runs. In fact you can use that card in any WM device that Accepts SD memory and it will install and work as long as that device has GPS capability.
Get the CD version of it though. More flexible installation options.
Authentisketch -No Garmin isn't free. At least not legally free. I got it with the Garmin Bluetooth GPS10 unit for $119 on Ebay.

i've been running google maps on mine. It has a tracking option (gps) and it's pretty good. Pretty scary actually. To be honest, not only did it find where i live easy enough, the address, BUT ALSO THE FREAKING APARTMENT UNIT! That last bit bothers me so much. I've never been a "ohhhh tin foil time" but that, how does it know what unit i live in???
google maps for mobile FTW
http://www.google.com/mobile/gmm/stp-js.html

I used Iguidance 3.0 w/ google maps today. It's a darn good combination
if you dont' have a lot of storage space. for my area, VA/DC/MD
program and maps only take up 79 megabytes on my 2 gb storage card.
this setup means i dont' have to store PIO i can look up the latest with google maps,
and copy the address over into iguidance.
The only thing is, when it reads directions, it pauses between words.
in..200..yards...turn... left I hope there is a mod to fix that...
the iguidance cab file is only like 13k.

SAT Nav and GPS question.

Can anyone clarify how GPS works on the G1/Dream. Im being advised by t-mobile here in the UK that to use GPS the phone needs to connect to the internet (so Im guessing it uses a GPS server from Google).
Reason for asking is because I have an Orbit now with Tom TOm and it works sweet for free as long as I can get a GPS signal. I spend a lot of time out of the UK, and dont want to incur internet roaming charges (£1.50per MB) to use GPS and the sat nav.
Additionally, assuming GPS is free, are there any apps out there to allow me to run native Tom TOm on the G1, or any other apps as good as or better than Tom Tom (excluding Google Maps which obviously requires www access).
Thanks

In addition you can disable the A-GPS function (or so ive heard) But i believe the reason why they say you need to have internet access is because the native application of the G1 is Google maps and it draws all of its informaion online, as far as using the GPS only you do not need internet access if you have all the maps available offline.

eskimofisherman,
The G1 definitely has a GPS antenna, which has nothing to do with data - it simply figures out it's coordinates on earth. That data (coordinates) can then pinpoint you on a map, which is where the data connection comes in. The maps are downloaded to your phone using the data connection. And, as far as I've seen, it is streamed to your phone. For instance, if you're on 9th street, the G1 will download the maps for 5 blocks around 9th. If you move, or scroll on the screen, it then downloads the map data for that area you move to. With TomTom, you bought maps, which means you had all 1-2GB of data pre-loaded. Lastly, FYI, GPS is always free. You aren't ever "downloading" data with a GPS antenna. All it does is say "where is this antenna, on earth, relative to X number of satellites?"
As far as TomTom on the G1, I have no idea....sorry
Hope this helps!

Exactly - I was hoping to use the sat nav function with "a n other" sat nav program and/or maps, or using maps offline.
T Mobile seem to suggest you need internet access even for the GPS, regardless of the Google maps function.

Ya, right now I don't think you're gonna have any luck since all the maps applications except andnav use google maps and andnav still requires a data connection. (although I do seem to remember one that uses maps downloaded to your phone from something called open maps or something... can any1 confirm?)

Hi!
If you use AndNav (download lastest beta from www.andnav.org) you can preload all the maps you could ever dream of
This does not require you to go to the internet to download data, but it does require you to access the internet to enable the software to select your route. You can however preload the routes aswell

Keep in mind. If you live in the USA, like myself, AndNav2 doesn't support us yet!

There is a posting on another Android site showing Copilot Live on a G1. When this comes out it will have the maps on a micro sd card. The price for the wm version is $99.

Wow awesome, I just hope the internal Gps chipset is decent. Unlike the n95 built in gps I had. Although I do have a Sirf Star III BT receiver just in case.

Offline GPS Solution for Android? (no data plan needed, just like Windows Mobile GPS)

Ok...in order for me to keep Android on my Touch and not go back to Windows Mobile, there MUST be an offline GPS solution for Android. By that I mean GPS software that reads maps from the SD card and does not need a data connection on the phone at all; like TomTom does on Windows Mobile - it has all the POIs stored on the SD card (including their phone number) so I can get directions, look up numbers, and directly call businesses from the GPS app without ever needing any internet connectivity. I have a 16GB card, so storing maps of the whole USA won't be a problem....did it just fine in WinMo using TomTom...
So, does anyone know of a GPS application that can do this for Android? Having to connect to the internet for GPS maps (like Google maps) is just unacceptable, especially since GPS has been free through satellites for decades now. Bottom line - I just want GPS to work like it did on Windows Mobile...no data plan needed, and maps stored locally on the SD card. Easy and fast.
If this is not possible then it is very apparent that TomTom on WinMo is far superior to any Android GPS solution, and I will be forced to switch back.

MapDroyd......

http://www.mapdroyd.com/

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MapDroyd......
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it says you have to download the maps through another program called "ContentDroyd"...this defeats the whole purpose of making this work for phones without a data connection.

crobs808 said:
it says you have to download the maps through another program called "ContentDroyd"...this defeats the whole purpose of making this work for phones without a data connection.
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the newest version of contentdroyd will allow you to download them from a computer instead of through the phone. then you put the maps on sd.

mrkite38 said:
the newest version of contentdroyd will allow you to download them from a computer instead of through the phone. then you put the maps on sd.
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the latest version of ContentDroyd is still just an APK file, so how do you download them on your computer? IS there a public site that has the map files?
Also I read that any vector map format can be used in their compressed map format...does this mean I can use the nicer and more complete TomTom or Garmin map files somehow?

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the latest version of ContentDroyd is still just an APK file, so how do you download them on your computer? IS there a public site that has the map files?
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Sometimes you can find public sites, yes. I'm happy to post it if that's within the rules, I'll check. Then you use adb to install it.

mrkite38 said:
Sometimes you can find public sites, yes. I'm happy to post it if that's within the rules, I'll check. Then you use adb to install it.
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I can transfer files directly to my SD card over my USB cable, that is not the problem...I just need a site that has the map file. I can download and transfer them myself manually. Also - why would it be against the rules since the maps are freeware?
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Their site just has a list...no download links.
http://www.mapdroyd.com/map-android-more
This is so dumb, why are they trying to hide how to download it, even on their site, when they fully allow downloads thru your phone - makes no sense

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I can transfer files directly to my SD card over my USB cable, that is not the problem...I just need a site that has the map file. I can download and transfer them myself manually. Also - why would it be against the rules since the maps are freeware?
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Their site just has a list...no download links.
http://www.mapdroyd.com/map-android-more
This is so dumb, why are they trying to hide how to download it, even on their site, when they fully allow downloads thru your phone - makes no sense
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Sorry, I didn't mean the maps - I meant the newest mapdroyd and contentdroyd apks so you don't have to download them. You could then install those through adb.

Does the GPS even work well enough with warm donut? I have gotten it to work a few times, but most of the time it struggles to find a signal...

GPS works fine in mine. finally got GPS to work in RLS3 of myn's Warm Donut, but only after I installed GPStest and rebooted. Now I get locks in 30 seconds on a cold start
Anyway, I cannot find the SMD files for the UnitedStates, and if this thing doesn't even do turn by turn directions, then why was it made? Just so you can see a dot on a map? Whooptie do. Android is looking less and less attractive the longer I use it.

Ok I take it back, I just updated my radio to 3.42.5 and looks like GPS is working better than ever! Not sure about not having a dataplan as when I had Windows, it always made an internet connection at first?

seanmcd72 said:
Ok I take it back, I just updated my radio to 3.42.5 and looks like GPS is working better than ever! Not sure about not having a dataplan as when I had Windows, it always made an internet connection at first?
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No, that is my point...you never needed a data plan/internet connection to use GPS. GPS has always been free up until a few years ago when cell companies started tying data into it through what is called A-GPS (assisted GPS), and also so they could provide local 411 listings, etc. The GPS chip inside our phones works fine by itself to get directions, and do routing and turn by turn, etc (which is software based). No internet connection is needed to use GPS, and it shouldn't ever be.
Ok, my rant about phone companies muddying up true GPS is over...I fear that Android will never be as powerful a Windows Mobile was with GPS. People who think Google Maps and programs like Copilot are great GPS apps, have no clue what they are missing.

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No, that is my point...you never needed a data plan/internet connection to use GPS. GPS has always been free up until a few years ago when cell companies started tying data into it through what is called A-GPS (assisted GPS), and also so they could provide local 411 listings, etc. The GPS chip inside our phones works fine by itself to get directions, and do routing and turn by turn, etc (which is software based). No internet connection is needed to use GPS, and it shouldn't ever be.
Ok, my rant about phone companies muddying up true GPS is over...I fear that Android will never be as powerful a Windows Mobile was with GPS. People who think Google Maps and programs like Copilot are great GPS apps, have no clue what they are missing.
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my experience tom tom and destinator both worked much better with agps. i used both

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crobs808 said:
Anyway, I cannot find the SMD files for the UnitedStates, and if this thing doesn't even do turn by turn directions, then why was it made? Just so you can see a dot on a map? Whooptie do. Android is looking less and less attractive the longer I use it.
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Android on the touch is a work in progress. It is a hobby by fueled by enthusiasts, and given that it has come a LONG way in a short time. You shouldn't expect things to "just work", but often they do. (and IMHO better than WinMo.)
Also you are trying to compare a commercial app (Tom Tom) to a freeware alternative (mapDryod). This doesn't mean that it is inferior, but you usually have to pay the cost in time instead of money. Learning and tweaking the application that might not "just work" out of the box.
If Android on the touch isn't working out for you, then feel free to jump in and help get things working. Trollish comments and demanding functionality on threat of dropping Android doesn't help anyone much.

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Android on the touch is a work in progress. It is a hobby by fueled by enthusiasts, and given that it has come a LONG way in a short time. You shouldn't expect things to "just work", but often they do. (and IMHO better than WinMo.)
Also you are trying to compare a commercial app (Tom Tom) to a freeware alternative (mapDryod). This doesn't mean that it is inferior, but you usually have to pay the cost in time instead of money. Learning and tweaking the application that might not "just work" out of the box.
If Android on the touch isn't working out for you, then feel free to jump in and help get things working. Trollish comments and demanding functionality on threat of dropping Android doesn't help anyone much.
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I am not talking about "Android on the Touch"...I am talking about Android in general - NO Android phone in the world can have GPS that can even come close to matching WinMo's available apps. - no complaining here, just a fact now after my research.

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my experience tom tom and destinator both worked much better with agps. i used both
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better, hmm...yes technically - in terms of getting an initial lock (15 seconds with a data plan, or 30 seconds without data....big deal. once you had a fix it stayed fixed until you rebooted or went into an underground cave or something (came back the second you walked out). Anyway, I have my answer to my original post...might be back on WinMo in a week or so. Bummer.

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NO Android phone in the world can have GPS that can even come close to matching WinMo's available apps. - no complaining here, just a fact now after my research.
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Still trollish.. I for one find the tone of your posts to be unnecessarily aggressive, arrogant and unhelpful.
If you think that WinMo is better, maybe you should go back to using it?

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Still trollish.. I for one find the tone of your posts to be unnecessarily aggressive, arrogant and unhelpful.
If you think that WinMo is better, maybe you should go back to using it?
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I have been 100% factual in my statements. Offline GPS routing and maps are not available like they are on WinMo.....that is what I wanted to know when I posted this thread, and I got my answer. I am sorry you don't like the answer.
Besides, I already said I might go back to WinMo in a week.

[Q] CoPilot doesn't show small streets?

I recently got CoPilot on my phone and tried it out for the first time. I noticed that it did not show any streets at all, automatically putting me on a highway at least 10 streets away. It may be that I'm in Canada but I"m pretty sure their North American map should fully cover Canada..

no, there is a Canada map set, also small canadian cities and town map sets
if you don't have them, it will just put you on the hwy view

Ah found it. For some reason my US. Mexico and Canada map sets are blank so I have to guess each one. Thanks! Is it possible for CoPilot to show both the US and Canada at the same time though? Or do i have to switch it as i cross the border...?

yes just keep both maps in the internal SD
i only keep the States and Provinces i travel to the most
because the full USA map is 1.6 GB (waste of internal SD space) and Canada is around 400 Mb so basically 2 GB is gone if iwanted to keep the entire map for USA+Canada
that's why only saving all the states that you want is easier, and waste less space
you can always keep them on the External SD then manually swap them into the Internal SD when you need them
that's what i do