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Need for Wifi Tethering andKernels

Is there anyone around who knows why we haven't seen any custom kernels out? Is there something preventing them, or just no dev interest? The resound seemingly has dozens. I'm used to the evo and then 3d that were swimming in kernels even before launch day. Just wondering what's up.
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im wondering this also, im very close to getting rid of this for a skyrocket or a 4s
if i can find a deal

gtkansan said:
Is there anyone around who knows why we haven't seen any custom kernels out? Is there something preventing them, or just no dev interest? The resound seemingly has dozens. I'm used to the evo and then 3d that were swimming in kernels even before launch day. Just wondering what's up.
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I think the lack of source code and developers (we only have 4, although quality ones) are the main reasons why we don't have multiple kernels available. So far we only have Sense 3.0 source code and only one unlockable? Kernel from bananacakes.
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im wondering this also, im very close to getting rid of this for a skyrocket or a 4s
if i can find a deal
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I personally think the phones performs extremely well without overclockable kernel. It would be nice, but not a deal breaker for me. I think Vivid still trumps skyrocket with its solid feel and more accurate detailed screen. Really though, I'm a huge fan of Sense.

me too, but i would also like to have more control of my device and have the option of multiple roms, i want miui
at this point i regret not getting a skyrock or a pos 4s

All I want is wifi tether to work. I hate having to use sense 3.5 to just have tethering. I prefer 3.0, seems to be better.

gtkansan said:
All I want is wifi tether to work. I hate having to use sense 3.5 to just have tethering. I prefer 3.0, seems to be better.
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For me wifi tethering doesn't work on sense 3.5 ROMs but it does on 3.0.
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wifi tethering works out of the box for me

AllTheWay said:
For me wifi tethering doesn't work on sense 3.5 ROMs but it does on 3.0.
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I like Sense 2. Anny way to backport it?
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Liberty Themes

Why is it so hard to find themes for the liberty rom? I keep finding broken links.
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because Eclipse is where it's at
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where as liberty is an excelent rom, it is out of date. eclipse is the most current rom.

Eclipse runs slower for me and doesn't pick up 4g (I live at the border of a 4g area, get 4g with liberty, get 3g with eclipse.
I dont really see liberty as being outdated but more of a completed rom that doesn't need to be worked on. I really don't see too much more they can do to it until Motorola releases ICS. performance and battery life have been great (battery was better before they got the 4g to my house but that's to be expected)
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Eclipse runs slower for me and doesn't pick up 4g (I live at the border of a 4g area, get 4g with liberty, get 3g with eclipse.
I dont really see liberty as being outdated but more of a completed rom that doesn't need to be worked on. I really don't see too much more they can do to it until Motorola releases ICS. performance and battery life have been great (battery was better before they got the 4g to my house but that's to be expected)
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Eclipse runs better for me. Liberty was my favorite rom on the Droid X so that's what I thought I'd stick with. I started running it as soon as I got my bionic and it was an improvement over stock and I thought that with a few more releases that it would be a beast but support was dropped and it was still lacking performance. Then I tried Eclipse and I was pleasantly surprised, it runs as good as I expected Liberty to run.

But even if liberty is outdated, its a bad sign for our community that we can't find themes for it. I'm still able find themes for the Droid Eris that I used 2 years ago but can't find a theme for a newer phone.
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smokedkill said:
But even if liberty is outdated, its a bad sign for our community that we can't find themes for it. I'm still able find themes for the Droid Eris that I used 2 years ago but can't find a theme for a newer phone.
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you can find themes for your phone, just not the rom you want. the system version has nothing to do with your data connection, thats what the radio is for. there will be so performance differance between users, but for the most part people should get similar results.
http://gunnermike53.com/Bionic/Liberty/
thats the links to my 2 liberty bionic themes. some of the apps will be out dated, but the systemui and frameworks will be the same.
if you are satisfied with liberty then by all means stick with it, i am in no way minimizing team liberty's skills. they just havent done any work on the bionic since they all got thier new toy.

gunnermike said:
you can find themes for your phone, just not the rom you want. the system version has nothing to do with your data connection, thats what the radio is for. there will be so performance differance between users, but for the most part people should get similar results.
http://gunnermike53.com/Bionic/Liberty/
thats the links to my 2 liberty bionic themes. some of the apps will be out dated, but the systemui and frameworks will be the same.
if you are satisfied with liberty then by all means stick with it, i am in no way minimizing team liberty's skills. they just havent done any work on the bionic since they all got thier new toy.
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I talked to kejar and he told me that liberty was intended to be something other developers could build off of. I'm not sure.what else they could do to it because the performance I get is outstanding. Unfortunately we don't have too many rom development enthusiasts on the bionic to play with it.
I also don't believe it to be a radio issue because I get 4g on liberty and only 3g with eclipse with the same radio. If I was having problems with 4g on liberty, I would agree. But the radio works just fine with one rom and doesn't on the other. I'm on liberty gold I believe it is, the last version they released.
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I talked to kejar and he told me that liberty was intended to be something other developers could build off of. I'm not sure.what else they could do to it because the performance I get is outstanding. Unfortunately we don't have too many rom development enthusiasts on the bionic to play with it.
I also don't believe it to be a radio issue because I get 4g on liberty and only 3g with eclipse with the same radio. If I was having problems with 4g on liberty, I would agree. But the radio works just fine with one rom and doesn't on the other. I'm on liberty gold I believe it is, the last version they released.
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yes it was built for others to work with. again, that change when the new builds came out.
it doesnt matter what you believe about the data issue. the fact is that the radio is what controls your data connection. if you want to go on beliveing something that isnt true, well, thats up to you. ive told you what the facts are, its up to you what you do with it.

If it is the radio, why does it only impact the one rom but not the other? It seems that if the problem was the radio, I would have issues with both roms.
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And I know that the radio controls the data, but that still does not explain why I don't have the same data issues on both roms. The radio hasn't changed on my phone. Only thing different is the rom. If radio isn't giving me problems with one rom, why is it giving me problems with another. That's why I don't believe the issue is with the radio itself. It could have something to do with how the rom reads the radio.
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And I know that the radio controls the data, but that still does not explain why I don't have the same data issues on both roms. The radio hasn't changed on my phone. Only thing different is the rom. If radio isn't giving me problems with one rom, why is it giving me problems with another. That's why I don't believe the issue is with the radio itself. It could have something to do with how the rom reads the radio.
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im not going to continue to argue with you. the fact is your wrong. you can argue that all you want. the most likely thing is that you did something wrong and thats why you had problems. either way i dont care. run what ever rom you want. but you have your answer as to the lack of themes for liberty.

I'm not trying to argue. I'm just curious why its an issue with one rom and not another. Apparently there isn't anyone who can give me an explanation of why? Just saying its a radio issue doesn't really explain why it works fine on the other rom.
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But thanks for explaining why there aren't more themes for liberty.
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Vivid and its problems

Hi, I was thinking of getting a vivid to tide me over for at least a year and was wondering about a few things.
No aosp roms except for synergy working on one and virtuous inquisition being the closest to an aosp feel; am I right?
What's the whole deal with the ril and is there any rom where it is not an issue?
Do the sense 4 roms on here have everything working but the ril?
Just wanted to ask these questions and save a little time not searching.
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Moh_Jay said:
Hi, I was thinking of getting a vivid to tide me over for at least a year and was wondering about a few things.
No aosp roms except for synergy working on one and virtuous inquisition being the closest to an aosp feel; am I right?
What's the whole deal with the ril and is there any rom where it is not an issue?
Do the sense 4 roms on here have everything working but the ril?
Just wanted to ask these questions and save a little time not searching.
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You are pretty much up to speed, except that there are two close-to-AOSP ROM's to choose from.

Does being stuck on lte have any real issues anyway? I assume if lte isn't present in your area it's only just a battery drainer
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Moh_Jay said:
Does being stuck on lte have any real issues anyway? I assume if lte isn't present in your area it's only just a battery drainer
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Nah it's fine. I live in a LTE zone and I don't notice so much battery drain.

Moh_Jay said:
Hi, I was thinking of getting a vivid to tide me over for at least a year and was wondering about a few things.
No aosp roms except for synergy working on one and virtuous inquisition being the closest to an aosp feel; am I right?
What's the whole deal with the ril and is there any rom where it is not an issue?
Do the sense 4 roms on here have everything working but the ril?
Just wanted to ask these questions and save a little time not searching.
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Yes.
RIL is an issue in the AOSP ROM (IIRC) and Sense 4. This is primarily because of LTE being a nuisance.
There are no publically released Sense 4 ROMs, but yes.
Ehh, you should probably search anyway. It's easy, and you risk getting flamed if you don't.
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Does being stuck on lte have any real issues anyway? I assume if lte isn't present in your area it's only just a battery drainer
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No, not that I know of. I live in a non-LTE area, and I still have no problem getting 2 days out of the phone on the psuedo-AOSP ROMs, and about 1.3 on a Sense ROM. Still better than my Captivate, but worse than the Inspire.

Just wish we could get AOSP tethering

Incredible S vs Incredible 2: Whats the difference?

Incredible S vs Incredible 2: Whats the difference?

nstream said:
Incredible S vs Incredible 2: Whats the difference?
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Incredible S is the european version and Incredible 2 (or Droid Incredible 2) is for Verizon Wireless. One is GSM and the other is CDMA respectively.
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zukri90 said:
Incredible S is the european version and Incredible 2 (or Droid Incredible 2) is for Verizon Wireless. One is GSM and the other is CDMA respectively.
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excellent then, looks like ill go with the incredible s cos of the faster 3g speed, i dont suppose the incredible 2 can be hacked to gsm?

nstream said:
excellent then, looks like ill go with the incredible s cos of the faster 3g speed, i dont suppose the incredible 2 can be hacked to gsm?
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I don't think so. Besides, both of them have relatively the same specs. So I guess you should just go with the Incredible S
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nstream said:
Incredible S vs Incredible 2: Whats the difference?
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3788&idPhone2=3938

zukri90 said:
Incredible S is the european version and Incredible 2 (or Droid Incredible 2) is for Verizon Wireless. One is GSM and the other is CDMA respectively.
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The inc 2 is a global device, capable of gsm and cdma networks, as long as you stick with gb roms.
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thanks for the quick responses guys, appreciate it.

Macrodroid said:
The inc 2 is a global device, capable of gsm and cdma networks, as long as you stick with gb roms.
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Woah that's cool. I think it can be changed via *#*#4636#*#*
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I just came here as an Incredible 2 user to clarify stuff.
The Inc S is the european version of the Inc 2.
Inc S is gsm only with 3g bands for most carriers.
The Inc 2 is the US version of the Inc S.
Inc 2 is a cdma AND a gsm phone with 3G gsm bands for everywhere else but the US. It also has wireless charging.
The 3g WILL work with the JB roms for the Inc 2 just like the IncS.
Its that we got out ics kernel sources late that our development has been slow but we got it so any of you nice folk wanna stop by and develop Please do :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Hope that clarified

MoonMaster345 said:
I just came here as an Incredible 2 user to clarify stuff.
The Inc S is the european version of the Inc 2.
Inc S is gsm only with 3g bands for most carriers.
The Inc 2 is the US version of the Inc S.
Inc 2 is a cdma AND a gsm phone with 3G gsm bands for everywhere else but the US. It also has wireless charging.
The 3g WILL work with the JB roms for the Inc 2 just like the IncS.
Its that we got out ics kernel sources late that our development has been slow but we got it so any of you nice folk wanna stop by and develop Please do :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Hope that clarified
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ok so if i was to compare the S with the 2, which would have faster internet? (not taking wifi into account, and assuming coverage is not an issue)

nstream said:
ok so if i was to compare the S with the 2, which would have faster internet? (not taking wifi into account, and assuming coverage is not an issue)
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Depends on which carrier you are using
If you're on the same carrier for both, assuming the frequencies the phone uses match the carrier they will be the same speed
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Depends on the carrier mate, gsm vs cdma two very diff things
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If you've noticed slower LTE speeds on the 1.31 ota...

Then it's the radio. I can confirm this is the case. Before I downgraded I had dropping 4g signal and the speeds were 50% less, at the same location.
Yesterday I reverted back to 1.29 and I'm experiencing no 4g drops when moving in the train and I'm getting speeds up to 20mbps now.
Solution: s-off your phone and run the 1.29 ruu. I can guarantee better results if you started experiencing data issues lately
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I have noticed even if I have a signal when surfing or trying to stream data it just sits there and will time out often.
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mhsbrian said:
I have noticed even if I have a signal when surfing or trying to stream data it just sits there and will time out often.
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I was having this issue tons on the old radio, since updating to the 1.31 update radio, I get much better LTE/EVDO hand-off and more consistant reception.

The new radio is much better for me as well... the old radio refused to go from 3G to 4G even with a strong 4G signal present (a few hundred feet from the tower). The new one has been much more reliable for me. I can even use 3G in areas where it was previously not usable by me, and my calls no longer drop at home.

I guess it all depends on your location. I've had horrible experiences with it.
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flex360 said:
I guess it all depends on your location. I've had horrible experiences with it.
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Out of curiosity, where are you located? In my area, Ericsson is doing the NV rollout. It might be that the old radio works better in Samsung or Alcatel-Lucent areas.

kwolf said:
Out of curiosity, where are you located? In my area, Ericsson is doing the NV rollout. It might be that the old radio works better in Samsung or Alcatel-Lucent areas.
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NYC
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NYC
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That's an Alcatel-Lucent area. I'm curious to see if there is a trend, but we wouldn't know until more people reply with their experiences.

kwolf said:
That's an Alcatel-Lucent area. I'm curious to see if there is a trend, but we wouldn't know until more people reply with their experiences.
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How are you determining who is doing the update?

Radio images are very dependent on the area. We have only 2 to play with sadly.
Honestly, I would say reflash the radio.img from 1.31 (sorry idk the baseband number, too lazy to check phone). Did you flash all the other firmware bits as well? Perhaps you flashed a new ROM or even the stock ROM which writes to EPST. Many devs don't customize EPST settings on their stock-based ROMs and it can be simply a ##DATA# edit that could be causing issues / slowness. But if the radio reflash doesn't fix or improve anything, just flash the old radio. But again, radio depends on area for most things.

numus said:
How are you determining who is doing the update?
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http://s4gru.com/index.php?/gallery/image/29-network-vision-partner-map/