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[Video]Froyo on nook color

WHO DID THIS??? and why isnt it here!!?
probably doesnt belong in dev section but this needs attention
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uviopU8Ve-Y

wtf! I just got my nook color and was expecting to wait quite a while for a custom rom, but damn things are moving fast. Who did that? How? And why does no one here know about it?

Whoa. We have seen the future of the NC...and it shines! Now, how to get whoever did this on this board...

bobdude5 said:
WHO DID THIS??? and why isnt it here!!?
probably doesnt belong in dev section but this needs attention
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uviopU8Ve-Y
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Interesting. But I don't want to lose the original nookColor features as I bought the NC as an ereader primarily and I already have purchased books and magazines on the device. (And no, the nook android app isn't suitable as it doesn't have all the features of the NC such as magazines)

dark79 said:
Interesting. But I don't want to lose the original nookColor features as I bought the NC as an ereader primarily and I already have purchased books and magazines on the device. (And no, the nook android app isn't suitable as it doesn't have all the features of the NC such as magazines)
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Ok, so I guess this doesn't apply to you then, right?
I, on the other hand, am very excited. Hopefully we can get the details of this soon. There was no proof that the android marketplace was functioning in the froyo build though, but I hope it is.

dark79 said:
Interesting. But I don't want to lose the original nookColor features as I bought the NC as an ereader primarily and I already have purchased books and magazines on the device. (And no, the nook android app isn't suitable as it doesn't have all the features of the NC such as magazines)
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It's a step in a nice direction. Get the stock OS up and running and then figure out what's needed to perform upgrades to the Nook platform itself. If it is possible to upgrade the unit to Froyo that means that Bluetooth Keyboards should work and a number of other things. I would prefer not to lose the actual Nook look/feel of the device but I'm not going to ignore what is overall a positive step forward for the evolution of this device.
I'm really hoping the details on the WiFi controller chip were accurate, because the touch keyboard on this thing is REALLY getting annoying.

deeoh said:
Ok, so I guess this doesn't apply to you then, right?
I, on the other hand, am very excited. Hopefully we can get the details of this soon. There was no proof that the android marketplace was functioning in the froyo build though, but I hope it is.
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No, it still applies to me.
The BNN apps run over android 2.1. My point is that I'm hoping someone can pull the BNN apps to work OVER froyo so that I can still have the best of both worlds.
Shouldn't be too hard. After all, BNN already said they're releasing a froyo update early next year (rumors being January).

one question that comes to my mind that doesnt come up in the video, since the nook only has like 4 hardware buttons how do you control your back, home and menu controls? unless you Remap the volume buttons to do it

thoughtlesskyle said:
one question that comes to my mind that doesnt come up in the video, since the nook only has like 4 hardware buttons how do you control your back, home and menu controls? unless you Remap the volume buttons to do it
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That's why you would use the SoftKeys APK that someone else on here has worked so diligently on. That way, the bottom bar of the nook becomes like a perma-softkey bar, that way you can pick between using the volume keys or the softkeys.
Anybody managed to talk to the guy who put up the video? Would love to know how he got that running, especially with Flash 10.1 on 2.2
EDIT: Here's the Softkey.APK and the thread I'm talking about: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=860153&page=2

It's too bad that whomever did this didn't focus their camera very well.

Martimus said:
It's too bad that whomever did this didn't focus their camera very well.
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Agreed - you can only barely make out the 2.2.1. Wonder if it's real or a fake...

I saw some benchmarks of 2.1 vs 2.2 measured using linpack. 2.1 was about 7 while 2.2 was 30-40.
Will the nook enjoy this speed increase? Meaning because the nook is a little more lacking hardware wise, I'm wondering if this speed boost would be more noticeable on the nook (e..g smoothing scrolling, more responsive, etc)
Or is the graphics chip more responsible for these things?

sark666 said:
I saw some benchmarks of 2.1 vs 2.2 measured using linpack. 2.1 was about 7 while 2.2 was 30-40.
Will the nook enjoy this speed increase? Meaning because the nook is a little more lacking hardware wise, I'm wondering if this speed boost would be more noticeable on the nook (e..g smoothing scrolling, more responsive, etc)
Or is the graphics chip more responsible for these things?
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The nook's hardware is actually quite capable and with a proper clean froyo build, it should fly. The stock B&N build is garbage as far as optimizations and performance go. We have a cortex A8 (TI OMAP 3621) with a powerVR SGX 530, that should be plenty to have a nice android experience.
I'm sure linpack scores will improve with 2.2, but it seems snapdragon based devices get the best gains on linpack from going 2.1 to 2.2.

Good to hear it's a capable piece of hardware.
This will be my first android device so I'll read more about rooting etc. But once say a froyo 2.2 is out, can you retain the b&n software somehow, or is it one or the other?
I've heard some of the apps/functionality it provides is good. I'm more interested in this as a cheap first tablet so with a choice for one or the other, I'd wipe it and put froyo on it, but I was curious if even their apps can be brought over, if a side by side (dual boot?) install isn't possible. Or maybe off the sd card...
Off topic, but is there anything to manage multiple users? I can see my gf wanting to use it, and I'd rather not have her bookmarks files etc in mine.
I get the vibe all these devices are made for one user, but I've read posts about say a parent wanting to let their kid play with the device without concern they'd change anything.

sark666 said:
Good to hear it's a capable piece of hardware.
This will be my first android device so I'll read more about rooting etc. But once say a froyo 2.2 is out, can you retain the b&n software somehow, or is it one or the other?
I've heard some of the apps/functionality it provides is good. I'm more interested in this as a cheap first tablet so with a choice for one or the other, I'd wipe it and put froyo on it, but I was curious if even their apps can be brought over, if a side by side (dual boot?) install isn't possible. Or maybe off the sd card...
Off topic, but is there anything to manage multiple users? I can see my gf wanting to use it, and I'd rather not have her bookmarks files etc in mine.
I get the vibe all these devices are made for one user, but I've read posts about say a parent wanting to let their kid play with the device without concern they'd change anything.
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if the root method is the same as we have done before, yes we will be able to do it, basically a custom recovery will be created which will allow nand (internal memory) to be backedup and restored

yea, the stock B&N software is pretty poorly optimized but it's got good management and reading features (shelves, different colors and margin settings, social networking for quotes etc...), much better than the Nook app on Android and most other reader apps, the store works pretty well and it does B&N magazines and kid books. Some of the non-readers out there might not notice the difference, but it's there.

sadly i dont think B&N understand the idea of optimization i got almost twice the performance on my original nook last year just by optimizing the .apks with zipalign and optiPNG havnt had a chance to test it on the NC because well im lazy and too busy actually using it

dark79 said:
Interesting. But I don't want to lose the original nookColor features as I bought the NC as an ereader primarily and I already have purchased books and magazines on the device. (And no, the nook android app isn't suitable as it doesn't have all the features of the NC such as magazines)
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Me too, I use it as a reader and media player next.
But I'm paying close attention to what this device can do...

[Q] Nook Honeycomb starter

Honeycomb on Nook is awesome, the work done here is impressive. Congratulations!
I want to try it out, giving a Nook Honeycomb, and use it instead of a Moto Xoom (it's impressive, but I doesn't need the big screen, HDMI, cameras, dual-core CPU...)
what I need is a small tablet so that I can:
# browse and read news etc.
# use Gmail
# watch a few videos (YouTube or files)
# maybe read e-books (Kindle, B&N)
# run various small apps (maybe some games) - from Android Market
And I want:
# 6" or 7" display
# low weight
# long battery life
# WiFi
# 3G through a Bluetooth connection to my phone
# and low cost
Thats not an 800 USD Xoom for that. But a Nook with HoneyComb!
I'm not a developer but a relatively technical user, so I'm not afraid of buying a Nook and try out some stuff.
But I have som questions and would like some input. I may have misunderstood things and I apologize for stupid questions.
First decisions/questions:
1; what is eMMC? I can see that I should choose between SD or EmmC, so this is probably a fairly basic decision.
2; I gather I need to choose which port of Honeycomb to use. Right? (I have listed a few below).
3; it appears to be possible to either boot Android Honeycomb from the SD-card. Does that mean I can use the Nook as it was delivered if the SD card isn't present?
4; Is there any other basic decisions I need to take?
There's lots of posts here, and I've been reading back and forth, and from what I see this is what I need:
# get a Nook
# get a microSD card. Is there any recommendations?
# get a Honeycomb image/build. Could be:
-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936995 by deeper-blue
-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925451 by dalingrin
-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954902 by phiredrop
# overclock the Nook to 1 or 1.1 GHz
# Disabling B&N OTA updates (or is this done automatically?)
# Dualboot?
# Installing various apps
# Network using Bluetooth - how?
Is this too deep water for me or should I plunge in?!

I personally think that you should dive in. Now first emmc is the name of the nooks internal memory.
I would recommend buying one and first using a micro SD to boot honeycomb and decide if you want to run it. It's a great port and great os but its not prime time yet on the nook.. I use it only, and even with its faults it is too 'tablet friendly' for me to switch.
YouTube is tricky at best. Ill let someone with more experience post about it. In my experience it's not real reliable for some reason
Sent from one of those missing Droids

I love my nook color, and it has a bright future. But u mentioned you wanted 3g and Bluetooth. Those are not available as of yet on nook color. I'm not sure if it has those internal components or not.
But it is a very capable device. Mine is setup comparable to the galaxy tab I would say, after rooting it and adding a custom rom.
Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk

Thanks for the answers so far!
I can live without 3G/BlueTooth.
And I can live without YouTube. That will probably fixed along the way.
Is the current Honeycomb builds based on a prerelease SDK or is considered a final release?

Caspar07 said:
Thanks for the answers so far!
I can live without 3G/BlueTooth.
And I can live without YouTube. That will probably fixed along the way.
Is the current Honeycomb builds based on a prerelease SDK or is considered a final release?
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You can't use bluetooth for data, but you could certainly tether your nook to your smartphone. That's what I plan to do when I find myself without a wireless connection.
EDIT: Oh and you could visit the actual youtube website if you have flash installed (on a 2.2 or higher ROM).

Definately dive in. Buy a few microSD cards. Start by rooting the stock firmware and play with a launcher and the market. It's the most stable.
Install Honeycomb on an SD card and boot it. It's not bad but will be much improved in the next few weeks.
No bluetooth yet but you can wifi tether to your phone if your phone supports it.

BanditRider said:
Start by rooting the stock firmware and play with a launcher and the market. It's the most stable.
Install Honeycomb on an SD card and boot it. It's not bad but will be much improved in the next few weeks.
No bluetooth yet but you can wifi tether to your phone if your phone supports it.
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"Rooting stock firmware"?
Does that mean sort of copying the firmware, so You can restore later?
Again: good replies, much appreciated

To get you started.
At $250, the Nook Color sucks as an eReader. But as an android tablet, its the best purchase you could make. Nothing else comes close. Some notes on your comments.
1. The Nook Color(NC) has a boot priority to the microSD card, making it nearly impossible to 'brick.' I'd reccommend having two sd cards. A good class 10 one for your daily use, and a cheap 1gb one to keep a copy of clockwork recovery for quick repairs.
2. The bluetooth doesn't work, even though the device has the hardware. At this point, there is no speculation of it working in the forseeable future. HOWEVER, it works great using the WiFi hotspot on my HTC evo.
3. The device will run android 2.1 (eclair), 2.2 (froyo), 2.3 (gingerbread), and 3.0 (Honeycomb). All four have their issues. I've tested them all thoroughly, and prefer the standard 2.1 (also called stock NC) build for its stability. Feel free to try them all.
IF YOU SHOULD BUY ONE:
Instructions to root
Instructions to build a recovery SD card
Instructions on how to make root stock NC work well for you
Remember these links. They'll save you the hours of time I lost.

YouTube and Flash work perfectly for me on the 2.2 phiremod beta2 rom. I would say it is pretty stable. But if one is new to root they should just get used to rooting first. We are also over at androidtablets if you need help http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/nook/
The above link for rooting seems broken. Here is the NookDevs links http://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Rooting *edit nevermind it's working sorry

Thank you
I've not yet done any recover steps after auto nootering a few weeks ago. This is going to help me go do these steps this weekend.
Tethering is going to be something i need come summer vacation where there's no connection any place, i have the MOTO Droid, and PDANet, so i'll try that some day soon, see if it holds up.
admiralnorman said:
At $250, the Nook Color sucks as an eReader. But as an android tablet, its the best purchase you could make. Nothing else comes close. Some notes on your comments.
1. The Nook Color(NC) has a boot priority to the microSD card, making it nearly impossible to 'brick.' I'd reccommend having two sd cards. A good class 10 one for your daily use, and a cheap 1gb one to keep a copy of clockwork recovery for quick repairs.
2. The bluetooth doesn't work, even though the device has the hardware. At this point, there is no speculation of it working in the forseeable future. HOWEVER, it works great using the WiFi hotspot on my HTC evo.
3. The device will run android 2.1 (eclair), 2.2 (froyo), 2.3 (gingerbread), and 3.0 (Honeycomb). All four have their issues. I've tested them all thoroughly, and prefer the standard 2.1 (also called stock NC) build for its stability. Feel free to try them all.
IF YOU SHOULD BUY ONE:
Instructions to root
Instructions to build a recovery SD card
Instructions on how to make root stock NC work well for you
Remember these links. They'll save you the hours of time I lost.
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You need to use an Adhoc method to tether droid to autonootered nook I believe. It doesn't work as is right off the bat with a 2.1 nook color and droid1.

Caspar07 said:
....But I have som questions and would like some input. I may have misunderstood things and I apologize for stupid questions.
First decisions/questions:
1; what is eMMC? I can see that I should choose between SD or EmmC, so this is probably a fairly basic decision.
2; I gather I need to choose which port of Honeycomb to use. Right? (I have listed a few below).
3; it appears to be possible to either boot Android Honeycomb from the SD-card. Does that mean I can use the Nook as it was delivered if the SD card isn't present?
4; Is there any other basic decisions I need to take?
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I was in the same boat... wanted a tablet to do pretty much what you are looking for... after reading the threads here, I got a Nookcolor...
1.. eMMC is the Nook's internal memory, where its current/stock B&N OS and apps are stored and run from. If you wanted to use a "custom rom" like Froyo, Gingerbread, Honeycomb, you could install it to eMMC, overwriting the stock B&N stuff... BUT you don't have to.
2. Right now, the honeycomb ports out there are based on the Pre-Release SDK (software dev kit), and made to work on an actual device, i.e. the NookColor. Because of this, it has some limits and bugs. The best HC Ports will come once HC goes AOSP (hopefully soon since the XOOM, which uses HC, is now for sale).
3. The NookColor is setup to try and boot from MicroSD card first, and if no OS on MicroSD, then boot off the eMMC. So, you could load up a card with another OS, play with it, and NOT TOUCH the stock B&N stuff... just pop the card in when you want to boot the other OS, and pop it out when you want to go "stock" (that is what I'm doing now).
This also means you can make up a MicroSD card strictly for the purpose of recovering/reloading the OS on your NookColor if something goes wrong when trying to install an alternate OS to the eMMC. (i.e. helps you "unbrick" your device).
Note: when getting a MicroSD card to boot an alternate OS from, its generally better to get a higher class card as they are usually faster (means the OS runs faster/smoother). But some of the lessor known brands often don't live up to their class ratings. And there have been issues with some people getting certain Class 10 (fastest) 16gig cards, so you'll have to do some home work, searching and reading the threads to decide on which card to buy.
4. You have many choices to make. Do you want to run stock B&N os/firmware (Eclair/2.1) as is out of the box? Do you want to root the stock OS and add your own apps? Do you want to try one of the Froyo (2.2), Gingerbread (2.3, the CM7 builds) or Honeycomb (3.0) ports and do you want to run them from MicroSD (slower) or eMMC (faster)?
While Wifi works with each Froyo and HC build I've tried, Bluetooth doesn't work with any of them.
Each port of Froyo, Gingerbread and HC has its own positives and negatives, so you have to investigate and figure out which one works best for you as a daily driver.
Me, I left the stock B&N NookColor OS and Apps untouched, and loaded up one MicroSD (Sandisk 8G class4) with Froyo following this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922324
And I loaded up another MicroSD card using the HC Preview v4, but it didn't meet my needs, so I'm waiting on the AOSP of HC to try again.

admiralnorman said:
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3. The device will run android 2.1 (eclair), 2.2 (froyo), 2.3 (gingerbread), and 3.0 (Honeycomb). All four have their issues. I've tested them all thoroughly, and prefer the standard 2.1 (also called stock NC) build for its stability. Feel free to try them all.
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Remember these links. They'll save you the hours of time I lost.
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Great help - thanks.
Still one question:
Is lack of stability in Honeycomb due to the fact that it's still early and very new, or is it due to incompatible hardware?
This is getting increasingly interesting

Caspar07 said:
Great help - thanks.
Still one question:
Is lack of stability in Honeycomb due to the fact that it's still early and very new, or is it due to incompatible hardware?
This is getting increasingly interesting
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Not really. Its kind of a developer's platform. So its made to run on a generic android device. As the programmer type people around here play with it, it gets better and better.
Sent from my HTC Evo 4g using XDA App

KidJoe said:
I was in the same boat... wanted a tablet to do pretty much what you are looking for... after reading the threads here, I got a Nookcolor...
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And I loaded up another MicroSD card using the HC Preview v4, but it didn't meet my needs, so I'm waiting on the AOSP of HC to try again.
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Thanks for the lengthy answer. That was a helpful explanation.

Caspar07 said:
Great help - thanks.
Still one question:
Is lack of stability in Honeycomb due to the fact that it's still early and very new, or is it due to incompatible hardware?
This is getting increasingly interesting
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The devs currently do not have the Honeycomb source. What exists now has been pieced together from the emulator and is glitchy. Once they have the source (which should be soon as the XOOM is out now) we should begin to see improvements in HC roms.

Also, please recognize that not everyone has stability issues. I've been running the initial version of Sam's "flashable" Deeper Bulue image for 2 weeks, and don't have any stability issues.
It really depends on what apps you want to run. I have market working fine, with lots of apps downloaded. I did the ADHOC tweak early on, and can connect to wireless networks pretty much at will.
I read quite a bit, and spend a lot of "nook time" using it as an eReadr. I've worked my way through a number of books using the B&B Reader, Kindle, and Aldiko without any issues.
It's not a "production" image, but for me it works well.

admiralnorman said:
The bluetooth doesn't work, even though the device has the hardware. At this point, there is no speculation of it working in the forseeable future. HOWEVER, it works great using the WiFi hotspot on my HTC evo.
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Just got an execuse to buy myself a new gadget - a HTC Evo or similar

"Is the Nook Color the right Android tablet for me?"
I think the easiest way to answer this question is by how much you enjoy tinkering with things. If you want a tablet that "just works" then you'll want a Xoom or Galaxy Tab. But if you love playing and learning about how your gadgets work 'under the hood' then the Nook Color will be the best gadget purchase you've made in awhile.
I've honestly spent more time "getting it to work perfectly" than I have actually using it, but I've loved every minute of it. I won't lie, Java and/or Linux experience is a big plus, but by no means necessary.

admiralnorman said:
At $250, the Nook Color sucks as an eReader. But as an android tablet, its the best purchase you could make. Nothing else comes close.
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I just bought a Nook Color about a half hour ago and this post made me feel so much better about it. I've been debating it for some time and decided to take the plunge. I was worried that I might be late to the game but it has only been out for like 3 months.
Can anyone point me in the direction of Honeycomb for the NC? EDIT: Unless someone recommends a better ROM for now?
By the way, my name is Raj and I'll be spending lots of time here!

[Q] Rooting (Warning: Android Noob)

So I'm getting a NookColor sent over to the UK in a week or so and wanted some general advice etc. I've got to admit I don't really care for e-readers that much, at least not enough to pay full price. Anyway, I recently got an offer through work to get a NC from Barnes & Noble with 50% off so I figured it might be nice to have another gadget to play with. Then I stumbled across this forum and a few others and I have been really impressed with the potential of the NC as a tablet, so for $125/£75 I'd be a fool to miss out. Anyway, I'm looking for some opinions from your good selves:
Is it worth registering with B&N when I first get the NC? I'd more than likely use the Kindle book store if I was to purchase ebooks so I'm thinking I don't really need to register. How does this affect system updates and the warranty though?
I'm pretty much set on installing CM7 as soon as I get the NC but is it worth replacing the stock OS or just booting from an SD card? I'm guessing that it performs better from the internal memory and the process seems fairly simple, but is there any good reason to keep the stock OS loaded?
Will I need to root the device before attempting to install CM7? I've read mixed things about this so I am a little confused.
Any advice is greatly appreciated, and I apologize in advance for the boring noob questions!

DubiousPig said:
So I'm getting a NookColor sent over to the UK in a week or so and wanted some general advice etc. I've got to admit I don't really care for e-readers that much, at least not enough to pay full price. Anyway, I recently got an offer through work to get a NC from Barnes & Noble with 50% off so I figured it might be nice to have another gadget to play with. Then I stumbled across this forum and a few others and I have been really impressed with the potential of the NC as a tablet, so for $125/£75 I'd be a fool to miss out. Anyway, I'm looking for some opinions from your good selves:
Is it worth registering with B&N when I first get the NC? I'd more than likely use the Kindle book store if I was to purchase ebooks so I'm thinking I don't really need to register. How does this affect system updates and the warranty though?
I'm pretty much set on installing CM7 as soon as I get the NC but is it worth replacing the stock OS or just booting from an SD card? I'm guessing that it performs better from the internal memory and the process seems fairly simple, but is there any good reason to keep the stock OS loaded?
Will I need to root the device before attempting to install CM7? I've read mixed things about this so I am a little confused.
Any advice is greatly appreciated, and I apologize in advance for the boring noob questions!
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Welcome to the NC community!
You seem to have a pretty good handle on things. Nothing on the warranty page (http://www.barnesandnoble.com/nook/protectionplan/standard/index.asp) mentions that registration is necessary to be eligible. However, once you install CM7, it's a moot point, as that will certainly void the warranty. But it's near impossible to break the software beyond repair, so you can generally restore to stock if for some reason you need to submit a warranty repair.
Replacing the stock OS is a matter of personal preference. I personally tried running CM7 on the SD card temporarily and decided that since I was never using stock, that I would just get rid of it. Give it a try and see if you like it; it isn't too hard to install internally if you decide to get rid of stock, and as I said, restoring stock isn't too difficult either.
As far as I know, you don't need to root stock to install CM7. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12801192 is a guide to install it internally without root.

You have a couple of options avaliable to you. If you want to use it as a stock reader for the barnes and noble book store maybe you should consider Cm7. I curently run Cm7 on a class 6 8 gig card and i get very little lag.If you find its still not fast enough you also have the option of using dalingrins over clock kernel which will boost the performance.
Running off the sd card will give you the best of both worlds win/win.

Now that the official 2.2 froyo update is available.....

What are the chances of getting the stock NC Launcher/App working in custom 2.2-2.3 roms?
I'm not @ home atm so I am unable to tinker with it myself for the time being.
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/u/noo...ue Inc-_-k175726-_-j12871747k175726-_-Primary
Software Updates - Version 1.2.0
Barnes & Noble is providing a major firmware update for NOOK Color that contains exciting new features, addresses key customer requests and provides ongoing performance improvements. Among the enhancements, NOOK Color v1.2 now offering popular NOOK Apps�, NOOK Email�, an enhanced web experience, NOOK Kids� Read and Play� titles, enhanced NOOK Books, and more. The software update will be automatically downloaded to devices that are registered and connected to Wi-Fi�, beginning the week of April 25 and over the coming weeks. There�s no need for you to take any action. The software update is also available immediately via a manual download offered here. Please refer to the instructions below for the manual download. To check the current software version of your NOOK Color, please click here for additional instructions.
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msgnyc said:
What are the chances of getting the stock NC Launcher/App working in custom 2.2-2.3 roms?
I'm not @ home atm so I am unable to tinker with it myself for the time being.
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/u/noo...ue Inc-_-k175726-_-j12871747k175726-_-Primary
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Just as good of a chance at getting Sense UI on any device that isn't HTC. Slim.

Why so slim a chance?
I see custom Sense Roms all of the time for HTC devices.
I'm not meaning getting the NC stock launcher/app onto other tablets, but into Custom Roms for the NC itself.

They hack up the framework for their custom launcher/apps. Without the source code to their launcher there is little hope for running that on AOSP builds.
Now someone can make a custom 2.2 rom (winzippers) like you see for HTC, but those are not AOSP based. They are also in an illegal grey area....
With the exception of magazines there are a lot of alternatives to the stock reader. I don't see what the obsession with the stock software is.

Read to me Kids books is another feature, much more so than magazines (IMO) that makes stock worth holding onto for some, like me, that have children and actually use NC for books.

I like the layout of the stock launcher.
The Magazines are a plus,
The storefront is better then the marketplace nook app and since I do have alot of B&N books It is nice being able to actually read them. Cant with 3rd party readers and the Nook App in the marketplace BLOWs. Especially if you've alot of side loaded books. No cover art for sideloaded books and the layout sux.
I also LOVE the fact that nomatter where I am or what I am doing, there is a page icon at the bottom of the screen that takes me directly back to were I left off in the book I am reading, Also shortcuts that take me directly to the B&N Store or my Library from where ever I am are always present. It is integrated extremely well.
[edited]^^ Read to Me Kids Books is pretty darn cool to. My nieces and nephews love it.

msgnyc said:
I like the layout of the stock launcher.
The Magazines are a plus,
The storefront is better then the marketplace nook app and since I do have alot of B&N books It is nice being able to actually read them. Cant with 3rd party readers and the Nook App in the marketplace BLOWs. Especially if you've alot of side loaded books. No cover art for sideloaded books and the layout sux.
I also LOVE the fact that nomatter where I am or what I am doing, there is a page icon at the bottom of the screen that takes me directly back to were I left off in the book I am reading, Also shortcuts that take me directly to the B&N Store or my Library from where ever I am are always present. It is integrated extremely well.
[edited]^^ Read to Me Kids Books is pretty darn cool to. My nieces and nephews love it.
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+1, the regular android nook app blows. It doesn't even have a built in dictionary.
Would be great if we could port the nook library/store to other roms.

I am very curious as to why everyone thinks that the new update will make it easier to pull out the custom nook application. As Nemith pointed out, the apps rely on heavily modded framework, which means you can't just grab the APK and go. Despite being a 2.2 upgrade, i don't expect any difference there; the custom launcher shows that they are still heavily changing the Android framework..
I think the bigger issue is the big divide in users. As a tablet user, one of the first things i was happy to get rid of, was B&N's horrific interface changes (notification bar, etc), via CM7 (and Froyo before that). The "Read to me" feature was neat, but certainly not worth keeping in light of the horrible UI. But that is me, since i do not want it as an eReader. I guess others are more ok with it..

Well, it would be "easier" to work on porting from 2.2 to 2.2/2.3 rather then it would be from 1.6-2.2/2.3 as a whole.
Not that it would necessarily be "easy"
I never really had an issue with the B&N interface myself. Well, after installing ADW that is.
That's just user preference. Not everyone likes/dislikes the same thing.
I don't mind my tablet interface being slightly different from my phones.

My plan is to run stock on the EMMC and CM7+ from SDcard. Just need to take the leap and get them to dual boot and share the same Sdcard partition.
Homer

Why not just dualboot your EMMC? The process takes no time whatsoever, and it will still run the updated stock without a problem. Flash to stock 1.1, upgrade to 1.2, prep dualboot, migrate stock 1.2 to second partition and install CM7 nightlies unmodified to the primary partition. Its what I do, and what I'm planning on doing when 1.2 is rooted. Seems senseless to me to boot off an SD when you can do it all internally
-Wheeled Wonder

nemith said:
With the exception of magazines there are a lot of alternatives to the stock reader. I don't see what the obsession with the stock software is.
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You can only access the large library of "Nook Kids" color books using the stock reader. A few of the Kids titles will load on the B&N Nook app, but most will not as they are made specifically for the stock reader.
Once B&N releases their updated tablet reader app that is supposed to support Nook Kids books like the one for the iPad does, this won't be an issue anymore. So those of us that use the Nook Color (and Nook Kids books) to read to our kids, are stuck using the stock reader. My daughter LOVES the "Read-to-me" feature of Nook kids, and I would not be on her good side if i got rid of it just to run a custom ROM.
I dual boot Honeycomb on my MicroSD card, but the "Nootered" Stock ROM is what I use on a daily basis, as I use the stock reader a lot.

Does anyone know exactly what's changed in the magazine reading?

corruption42 said:
Why not just dualboot your EMMC? The process takes no time whatsoever, and it will still run the updated stock without a problem. Flash to stock 1.1, upgrade to 1.2, prep dualboot, migrate stock 1.2 to second partition and install CM7 nightlies unmodified to the primary partition. Its what I do, and what I'm planning on doing when 1.2 is rooted. Seems senseless to me to boot off an SD when you can do it all internally
-Wheeled Wonder
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No offence to those who duel book their NCs, but I see no point in it whatsoever.
I really dont want to have to continuously reboot my NC just to boot an alternate version of the same OS.
I would much rather have the one. I never have to turn off my NC as is. I rather have everything on the one OS rather then have to boot back and forth just to use what I have on one or the other. Takes no time whatsoever? That does indeed take time everytime you have to power down and reboot back and forth.
I'm just waiting for the official update to be rooted now. XD

Homer_S_xda said:
My plan is to run stock on the EMMC and CM7+ from SDcard. Just need to take the leap and get them to dual boot and share the same Sdcard partition.
Homer
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That's what I did with my modified SDcard install, base download and all the notes in;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022786
Hopefully will save you some time...

To each their own -- I was simply providing another route of administration for someone who, unlike you, IS interested in dualbooting. Some of us have a point to it -- for example, I have magazine subscriptions held over from my original nook -- I like reading the things I paid for. Can't read them in the market version of the Nook app. That leaves me with one option: the stock install. However, it doesn't take care of my desire for a tablet operating system. CM7 does that perfectly. You know how long a reboot takes? 45 seconds. Its not the end of the world, and for those of us who DO have a purpose for it, it certainly isn't pointless.
Your comment, however, kinda was.
-Wheeled Wonder

So was your seeing as I said "I see no point in it"
Doesn't mean other people don't have a reason for it.
Thank you for your also pointless post.

msgnyc said:
Well, it would be "easier" to work on porting from 2.2 to 2.2/2.3 rather then it would be from 1.6-2.2/2.3 as a whole.
Not that it would necessarily be "easy"
I never really had an issue with the B&N interface myself. Well, after installing ADW that is.
That's just user preference. Not everyone likes/dislikes the same thing.
I don't mind my tablet interface being slightly different from my phones.
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1.6?? The nook by stock runs 2.1. And i still say that no, it doesn't really make it easier, since we don't have the source code to see what B&N really changed. Sure, we can keep trying to run it, and grab files are we find them, but then you are overwriting other files which isn't desirable. Realistically, the only way we are safely porting the apps, is if:
1) B&N's app stops relying on modded framework; everything is neatly tucked in the apk
2) We somehow got B&N's Froyo source code (which they are under no obligation to release) and see what is being used and how to put it in CM7 code.

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1.6?? The nook by stock runs 2.1. And i still say that no, it doesn't really make it easier, since we don't have the source code to see what B&N really changed. Sure, we can keep trying to run it, and grab files are we find them, but then you are overwriting other files which isn't desirable. Realistically, the only way we are safely porting the apps, is if:
1) B&N's app stops relying on modded framework; everything is neatly tucked in the apk
2) We somehow got B&N's Froyo source code (which they are under no obligation to release) and see what is being used and how to put it in CM7 code.
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Bleh, my mistake on that one. lmao
I see where you are coming from. Still doesn't hurt to ask what the chance of it happening are. Know what I mean. Answers to questions are always a good thing.

msgnyc said:
So was your seeing as I said "I see no point in it"
Doesn't mean other people don't have a reason for it.
Thank you for your also pointless post.
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Nein -- you see, my original post was constructive and provided an alternative option. Your post provided negativity and nothing to add to the conversation. Mine had a point
Either way, as long as we all own the most cost effective tablet on the market, its all gravy
-Wheeled Wonder

[Q] Any ideas how the new partitions will affect new Nook Color buyers?

Doing a lot of reading on the changes that B&N is doing to the partitions of the Nook Color. Wondering now how it will affect those of us who are about to buy them with the intent to root and use a new ROM.
Details on the changes in my post linked below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13962169&postcount=17

Considering most people probably buy the NC for an actual e-reader, it won't affect them, but for us at XDA, it may stop a few people who are lazy, or people it think it's too much trouble.

If rooted builds don't have access to the 7GB partition for non-B&N content, it will make rooting pretty worthless, but then rooting is already pretty worthless compared to CM7.
A CM7(or whatever ROM) install to eMMC can probably treat most of that 7GB as system space, which could be even more beneficial to CM7 than B&N, given the order of magnitude more apps available for CM7.
A CM7 install to SD is straight up losing 4GB of storage (as well as the flexibility of sharing that storage with whatever OS is on the eMMC), but is otherwise unaffected.
I suppose it could be seen as a sneaky way of making the non-B&N options look less appealing to new owners.

My guess is that this was done in an attempt to keep the ROM installs isolated to just the SD card.
That way B&N can claim that their device isn't being affected by rogue hackers!

I Am Marino said:
Considering most people probably buy the NC for an actual e-reader, it won't affect them, but for us at XDA, it may stop a few people who are lazy, or people it think it's too much trouble.
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Please clarify your statements! It is Impossible to install a Rom to the EMMC of a newly partitioned NC! Don't generalize all of us with new nooks into a catagory of Lazyness!
Also, 2 days ago you post this--Quote
I'll be honest. The NC confuses me slightly when it comes to how to root, flash ROMs, etc. compared to my Incredible, it feels like day and night.
I made a thread about a month ago about wanting to learn the process but since then it has changed greatly with the 1.2 update.
I would really like if someone could detail out to me the steps I need to root and have CM7 on the NC.
I have questions that are probably answered right in front of me but they get lost in the vast amount of posts.
•Since the eMMC is pretty much canceled out for the time being, I want to run CM7 off the SD card, I've already read a Sandisk Class 2 8 or 16GB is the right card for this, how the hell do I put CWM, CM7, etc on this one SD card or am I supposed to use 2-3 different cards for the process? Then what do I do from there?
•What is the most stable, but feature packed release of CM7 at this point in time, like what build, which kernel, etc.? Market and GAPPS working?
•Assuming the SD card is good, does running off the SD card impact performance or is it as slick as running off the internal?
Pretty much I'm starting from dead scratch when it comes to the NC and I feel the guide threads don't do enough justice to explain certain questions fully enough or at all?
If it helps at all, I just plan to download apps, internet browse, stream music from Mougg, little or no game playing, and overclock.
So someone please help me out? It's not like I know nothing, as I have a rooted and kept up to date phone but for some reason, the NC confuses me and I may be overthinking.
If I remember any more questions, I'll list them. Thanks.
Sounds like to me, you are a Bit Hypocritical!!!!

Jimbo67 said:
Please clarify your statements! It is Impossible to install a Rom to the EMMC of a newly partitioned NC! Don't generalize all of us with new nooks into a catagory of Lazyness!
Also, 2 days ago you post this--Quote
I'll be honest. The NC confuses me slightly when it comes to how to root, flash ROMs, etc. compared to my Incredible, it feels like day and night.
I made a thread about a month ago about wanting to learn the process but since then it has changed greatly with the 1.2 update.
I would really like if someone could detail out to me the steps I need to root and have CM7 on the NC.
I have questions that are probably answered right in front of me but they get lost in the vast amount of posts.
•Since the eMMC is pretty much canceled out for the time being, I want to run CM7 off the SD card, I've already read a Sandisk Class 2 8 or 16GB is the right card for this, how the hell do I put CWM, CM7, etc on this one SD card or am I supposed to use 2-3 different cards for the process? Then what do I do from there?
•What is the most stable, but feature packed release of CM7 at this point in time, like what build, which kernel, etc.? Market and GAPPS working?
•Assuming the SD card is good, does running off the SD card impact performance or is it as slick as running off the internal?
Pretty much I'm starting from dead scratch when it comes to the NC and I feel the guide threads don't do enough justice to explain certain questions fully enough or at all?
If it helps at all, I just plan to download apps, internet browse, stream music from Mougg, little or no game playing, and overclock.
So someone please help me out? It's not like I know nothing, as I have a rooted and kept up to date phone but for some reason, the NC confuses me and I may be overthinking.
If I remember any more questions, I'll list them. Thanks.
Sounds like to me, you are a Bit Hypocritical!!!!
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What did quoting me prove?
Nothing.
I said the new partitioned NCs may lead to people not wanting to root because those people may be scared of going through the trouble to try to learn how to do root stuff otherwise or people too lazy to work around it. Had nothing to do with generalizations, before you try and make me look foolish, stop doing it to yourself.
By no means am I an expert at the content on this website and I'm quite new to the NC scene but that doesn't make me stupid and doesn't give you the right to try and throw me under the bus for some e-cred.

Besides all of the reading, like how hard is it to root a NC really?
Step 1. Put file on SD Card
Step 2. Boot up
Step 3. Um...like thats it!
I've had a harder time opening the front door when I've had a few drinks
*Just to clarify...the above was an attempt to difuse the situation with brevity*
Carry on!
Richard

I thought I was keeping current on Nook Color issues (rooting, ROMs, etc) but this is the first I've heard about changed partitions and how it may effect rooting the device. I'm running CM7 stable on internal memory and love it. I've got a microSD that boots the Nook into clockwork recovery or whatever that's called, I wipe everything and then install CM7 and gapps from the SD card, reboot and I'm done. I've installed the same setup on Nooks for two friends who envied my tablet. A third is about to go buy a Nook so I can do the same. if the Nook she buys has these new partitions will this process NOT work?

If you guys get the new partition, give this a try. I've done it myself since I had the new partition.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13971291&postcount=110
Works perfectly

So I got my refurbed Nook today and it has the changes to the partitions (blue sticker on box). I tried to load CM7 via CWM on the SD card and it won't boot at all. Is this because of the changes to the partitions?

cheez99 said:
So I got my refurbed Nook today and it has the changes to the partitions (blue sticker on box). I tried to load CM7 via CWM on the SD card and it won't boot at all. Is this because of the changes to the partitions?
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Yes....and see the post right above yours on how to solve it.

I just bought a nook yesterday; It was an older one still running the 1.1 upgrade. If I upgrade to 1.2, will my nook be repartitioned automatically?

schaan383 said:
I just bought a nook yesterday; It was an older one still running the 1.1 upgrade. If I upgrade to 1.2, will my nook be repartitioned automatically?
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As far as I know, No, it will not be.

I don't understand why B&N is putting so much effort into this. Rooting doesn't violate any carrier agreements, since this is a wi-fi only device, and their store is still available for use after a root. If they're worried about book piracy, that can be done without root. Any insights?
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Deegan87 said:
I don't understand why B&N is putting so much effort into this. Rooting doesn't violate any carrier agreements, since this is a wi-fi only device, and their store is still available for use after a root. If they're worried about book piracy, that can be done without root. Any insights?
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B&N discourages rooting for many reasons, including the fact that they only paid Google specific licensing fees and now most of us are running the full OS.
There is also the fear that we will damage the device and return it, which will directly affect their bottom line.
Whether or not WE think rooting is good may have nothing to do with how B&N and its investors thinks this affects their image.
No matter what, rooting is an out of control rogue operation in the eyes of any company. That lack of control scares them.
Secretly they may be fine with us rooting, but they are under a business obligation to their partners to protect the original design specs.
Sent from my rooted Nook Color acting as a Galaxy Tab.

Well for me, I would not have bought the Nook Color unless the root and full android install was an option.
I think there is probably a lot of people in the same boat that bought the device because it was primarily a nice way to get into a tablet with the added bonus it is a very good size for an e-reader.
Bottom line, there probably is a substantial increase in sales because of what people have done here making this a full android tablet.
It would be ill-advised for BN to impact this capability.

tbXDA said:
Bottom line, there probably is a substantial increase in sales because of what people have done here making this a full android tablet.
It would be ill-advised for BN to impact this capability.
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I don't know about that.
Remember although like 9/10 of the people here root and mod things, we're still a very small minority, most people probably actually did buy the NC for the e-reader, only as people keep word of mouth going do they figure out more about what they can do.

I Am Marino said:
I don't know about that.
Remember although like 9/10 of the people here root and mod things, we're still a very small minority, most people probably actually did buy the NC for the e-reader, only as people keep word of mouth going do they figure out more about what they can do.
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Absolutely right. There have been over 3 million sales of the Nook Color so far. We may be a very large community but we are a drop in the profit bucket, and most likely considered a risk in comparison.
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I just got a new blue sticker nook color and am having some issues. I understand that the software for installing images hasn't been modified to reflect these partitions yet but does it make sense that running from sd shouldn't work? I've been following verygreen's guide and using the exact versions and links that he has there but it hangs on "Loading...". If I try to use the nightlies instead I can sometimes make it to the cyanogenmod animation but every one I've tried freezes either there or earlier. Has something changed with the blue sticker nooks that would make us expect either generic-sdcard-v1.2.1 or update-cm-7.1.0-RC0-encore-2.6.32-beta3.1 to no longer work properly? I thought that this might be relevant to post in verygreen's thread but I haven't made enough posts to do that yet.

Help Please
Ok, so I've had a rooted NC since February and have ran most everything at one point or another thanks to the good people at XDA. I currently have CM7 .32 on mine.
My buddy saw my system and decided he liked it and bought one. I ran clockwork mod and flashed CM7 .32 on his NC. There was no notification bar on his and the cyanogen settings were force closing. I think he may have had the partitions on his. I'm trying to create an SD card CM7 for him, but I would like to fix his emmc as well. The adb partition fixes are really above my head as I have never been able to get adb to work.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.