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So I'm about to go buy an Evo today and I'm just about to leave and I get an email notice from BestBuy saying the the new Nexus S is going to hit stores soon and I stop...is it even worth buying an Evo now or should I hold off!? I got my Hero a few months before the Evo came out because I needed a new phone and now I am due for an up-grade but should I hold off, will Sprint release something soon that blows the Evo out of the water?
Anyone have any insight?
DanWalker said:
So I'm about to go buy an Evo today and I'm just about to leave and I get an email notice from BesyBuy saying the the new Nexus S is going to hit stores soon and I stop...is it even worth buy an Evo now or should I hold off!? I got my Hero a few months before the Evo came out because I needed a new phone and now I am due for an up-grade but should I hold off, will Sprint release something soon that blows the Evo out of the water?
Anyone have any insight?
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Well, I'm hoping the Nexus S comes out on Sprint. I'd like a high end phone, but no matter how many times I hold one, the Evo just seems too big.
Nexus S will probably NOT be coming to Sprint, though I can envision Samsung releasing Touchwiz versions eventually (well, maybe). As for Sprint coming out with something better than the EVO sooner than later, well, who knows, besides them. You can always just get the EVO, and if something better comes along (by IF I mean definitely, as that's how technology works obviously) soon, resell it and pay maybe $1-150 tops out of pocket.
well what's really the diff. between the nexus one and the nexus s....snapdragon vs hummingbird.....what else...second camera on nexus s? and htc vs samsung?
cause i know nexus one +custom rom = off the chart benchmark results.....too bad sprint can't use it....
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Well, I'm hoping the Nexus S comes out on Sprint. I'd like a high end phone, but no matter how many times I hold one, the Evo just seems too big.
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Try the Epic, it's smaller.....
Sprint is coming out with the Evo Shift, which is a smaller Evo on January 6.
Well I like the size of the Evo so no sense in waiting for the smaller one. Looks like I will just get the Evo and then figure out how to get CM6 on it lol.
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Nexus S is going to t-mobile, unless you get it unlocked. It's not much of an upgrade from the Nexus 1, front facing cam but not as good as EVO I believe, also there's no microSD card its all 16gb internal. No touchwiz. Oh yea, and its a samsung.
As much as I want to upgrade I'll wait for the feb/march batch of phones, I don't want to drop $529 for a phone that will be outdone in a major way in as little as 2-3 months.
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Nexus S is going to t-mobile, unless you get it unlocked. It's not much of an upgrade from the Nexus 1, front facing cam but not as good as EVO I believe, also there's no microSD card its all 16gb internal. No touchwiz. Oh yea, and its a samsung.
As much as I want to upgrade I'll wait for the feb/march batch of phones, I don't want to drop $529 for a phone that will be outdone in a major way in as little as 2-3 months.
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It's a faster processor, at least. Lack of MicroSD is really dumb, don't really understand the thinking behind that one myself. It is a Samsung, but yeah, no Touchwiz is a positive, the GPS issues the Galaxy-S series seems to have been plagued with have apparently been ironed out with (at least I think I read that.. maybe don't quote me on that), and since it's a developer phone it'll be dogfed the latest updates from Google, also a big plus (especially with future implementation of NFC and some other more behind the scenes stuff like that).
However, still interested in how the reviews and general reception of it turn out, especially since T-Mobile already has the G2 and MyTouch 4G, both really nice phones on their own. Also, this news makes me really happy: http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/08/evo-shift-4g-aka-htc-knight-speedy-shows-up-in-accessory-pic/
Sprint-branded Desire Z? Probably the best phone to have on the carrier if that pans out sooner than later.
Other issues with the Nexus S I've heard around the webz:
1. No LED notifications
2. Only 480p video recording
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BlaqkAudio said:
Well, I'm hoping the Nexus S comes out on Sprint. I'd like a high end phone, but no matter how many times I hold one, the Evo just seems too big.
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I think nexus s will be T-mobile.....come on sprint....they need to get more high end android phones in.......
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Other issues with the Nexus S I've heard around the webz:
1. No LED notifications
2. Only 480p video recording
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I don’t think any of the Galaxy S phones have LED notifications.
I'm not so much worried about whether the Nexus S will be coming to Sprint I am worried that there might be something coming from Sprint that will make the Evo look like junk. I got my Hero thinking it was top dog and months later I was kickin' myself in the ass. And now that the Evo has established it's dominance I am afraid to jump on the bandwagon incase something superior hits.
Well, it looks like the "Knight"/"Speedy"/"Evo Shift 4G" should be announced sometime sooner than later. Since it'll be a Sprint-branded Desire Z/G2 seemingly, I'd say that's worth holding out for.
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Well, it looks like the "Knight"/"Speedy"/"Evo Shift 4G" should be announced sometime sooner than later. Since it'll be a Sprint-branded Desire Z/G2 seemingly, I'd say that's worth holding out for.
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yeah that's what I keep reading but it's smaller and a slider...neither of which I hold in high regard.
My close friend works for sprint they are getting the htc Knight aka baby evo 4g which has NO front facing camera and is not better then the EVO. That's all they are telling sprint employees right now. Everything else is just rumors and wishes. I also have a friend who works for t-mobile(chick I'm messing around with lol) who says tmo is getting the nexus s they already have some accessories for it in the back and the specs are pretty much same as nexus one but WITH a front facing camera. Biggest downfall is that its a Samsung so need I say more about that company.
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My close friend works for sprint they are getting the htc Knight aka baby evo 4g which has NO front facing camera and is not better then the EVO. That's all they are telling sprint employees right now. Everything else is just rumors and wishes. I also have a friend who works for t-mobile(chick I'm messing around with lol) who says tmo is getting the nexus s they already have some accessories for it in the back and the specs are pretty much same as nexus one but WITH a front facing camera. Biggest downfall is that its a Samsung so need I say more about that company.
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Biggest downfall is a lack of external storage.
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dirkyd3rk said:
My close friend works for sprint they are getting the htc Knight aka baby evo 4g which has NO front facing camera and is not better then the EVO. That's all they are telling sprint employees right now. Everything else is just rumors and wishes. I also have a friend who works for t-mobile(chick I'm messing around with lol) who says tmo is getting the nexus s they already have some accessories for it in the back and the specs are pretty much same as nexus one but WITH a front facing camera. Biggest downfall is that its a Samsung so need I say more about that company.
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It's already known Nexus S is hitting T-Mobile. Also, if the EVO Shift is the Desire Z (can't see it NOT being it), then it will be better than the EVO (second generation processor, bettery battery life as a result, faster, etc). I guess we will see, but yeah.
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Biggest downfall is a lack of external storage.
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Worse idea ever man I would never buy a phone with out external storage NEVER
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It's already known Nexus S is hitting T-Mobile. Also, if the EVO Shift is the Desire Z (can't see it NOT being it), then it will be better than the EVO (second generation processor, bettery battery life as a result, faster, etc). I guess we will see, but yeah.
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Maybe battery life but I'm sure the evo would hold its own; this phone having only internal storage makes it just as bad as an iPhone no deal. Also I'm not going crazy over desire z stats anyways :rolls eyes:
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As far as I can tell, the new Telstra HTC Velocity is a Holiday/Vivid/Raider which has to be the most complciated mess off device renames I've seen in a while.
I have the option comming up at my work to go for 1 of three phones.
1. HTC Velocity on Telstra(holiday/vivid/raider)
2. Galaxy Nexus on Telstra
3. Galaxy S II (first version, on telstra)
SO this is addressed to people who own this handset, or a few handsets. DO you think I should go for the Velocity, or one of the others, if so why?
The Velocity has the fastest cpu (telstra version is 1.5Ghtz) and is the only one with LTE, however I'm not the biggest fan of Sense UI and I don't live or work in an LTE zone yet, wont be getting an LTE upgrade here for another 6 months. and the nexus appears to have a higher resolution screen.
Anyway, I'm incomming from a HTC HD2, which is awesome for flashing and such but mine is getting old and overheating so I will be glad to move on, does anyone know my chances of flashing roms/rooting the HTC Velocity easily?
Hey David,
Im currently using the SGS2 and LOVE it, but i do live in a 4G zone, i took home the demo today, and am doing some research on flashing as i am a bit of a nerd/freak when it comes to these things, and use alot of apps that require Root, so without that, its a no go for me... but the speed is PHENOMENAL! amazing, and to be quite honest, even on standard 3G/NextG gets far better coverage and 3G speeds than my galaxy, 10mb/s on the Velocity - on 3G and only 3MB/s on the Galaxy s2... I am cm's away from buying it
Hope this helps and if anyone has any more news, or if you can use Vivid/Raider ROMS on the velocity, as it has the same op sys... and sence... let me know!!!
cheers
So you would say the velocity is much better than the galaxy s ii?
Thank you
Got my HTC Velocity 4G today.
Managed to get boot loader unlocked via HTCDev but device is still S-On
Will try rooting and will update you guys
Yea iirc the HTCDev tool don't give you S-off, it just allows you to flash a new rom.
If you want to flash a new radio you will need S-off.
Keep us updated how you go flashing a new rom, ty.
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Ive had my HTC Vivid on ATT for about a month. Finally decided to go android after 5 years of iPhone use. Anyways, From what I can tell, like you said, the vivid and the velocity are more or less the same phone, just on different carriers. The phone is a solid handset, the battery life is average, its fast and even though I dont live in an area with LTE service, it still rocks on on HSPA+. Great phone, love mine, highly recommend it. As for not liking the Sense UI, if you arent concerned about your warranty, you can always root it and load a custom ROM onto it.
Thanks guys, good info.
Looking forward to seeing how kychan79 does with his, I should get mine in a few days I think I'm sold on the Velocity
I've noticied I can get extended batteries for the "raider" version, 3600mAh sounds boss, I have an extended battery for my HD2 so I'm used to the cover hump.
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So you would say the velocity is much better than the galaxy s ii?
Thank you
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I wouldnt say it is 'much' better, but it is better, in terms of speed, yes, but in terms of spec... no... the 1.5ghz is supposedly inferior to the 1.2, and 1.4 dual cores seen in the s2, and new galaxy tablets. However, i am fond of the speed and will be upgrading to an LTE device, and if we can crack the bootloader in these HTC's i will more than likely be upgrading to one
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davidcampbell said:
Thanks guys, good info.
Looking forward to seeing how kychan79 does with his, I should get mine in a few days I think I'm sold on the Velocity
I've noticied I can get extended batteries for the "raider" version, 3600mAh sounds boss, I have an extended battery for my HD2 so I'm used to the cover hump.
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does the weight go up much with the ext battery??? i am so used to my galaxy s2, (116grams) im scared of the extra weight, i used the Desire HD for a while back in the day.. hated the extra weight... thoughts???
if you hate weight, avoid the extra battery, I prefer my phone to be weighty
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SO this is addressed to people who own this handset, or a few handsets. DO you think I should go for the Velocity, or one of the others, if so why?
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I work for an online mobile store, and have used both the Samsung Galaxy S II and the Samsung Galaxy Nexus for an extended period of time. I also bought the HTC Velocity 4G yesterday.
The HTC Velocity 4G is currently the best device out in Australia, if speed is important to you! Not only does the device have 4G, though it also has dual band HSPA+, which makes it faster than most devices on the Next G network. I uploaded a video to YouTube yesterday, showing how much faster the HTC Velocity 4G runs on the Next G network, when compared to the Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
You can search YouTube for 'HTC Velocity 4G dual band HSPA+ test' if you want to watch the video, I am unable to post links, as I am a new user.
There are however three things that disappoint me about the device:
1. The device is a bit heavier than the Samsung Galaxy S II and the Galaxy Nexus
2. The device came with Android 2.3.7, rather than Android 4.0 (Should be released in a month)
3. HTC Sense
The Galaxy Nexus is a great device, it is light, thin and stylish. It also obviously has Ice Cream Sandwich, gets updated directly from Google (depending on where you get the device from), and doesn't have crap like HTC Sense on top of Android. The device however has a darker screen than most devices (not necessarily a bad thing), and the camera is pretty ****ty, though in all fairness, I was comparing it to the camera on the iPhone 4S, which makes all other mobile cameras look bad.
The Samsung Galaxy S II is a great device if you don't want a device as big as the Galaxy Nexus and don't want to spend as much. I also don't mind the software that Samsung puts on top of Android, it is a lot better than HTC Sense.
davidcampbell said:
does anyone know my chances of flashing roms/rooting the HTC Velocity easily?
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This is the reason why I logged onto XDA Developers today, I am wanting to ditch the HTC Sense / Telstra ROM for a good custom ROM, or if at all possible, a clean ICS ROM.
I would have went with the Galaxy Nexus (AOSP and no bloat HELLz YES,)if it wasn't the limited storage. 16GB is easy to fill and i need more if it was 32GB it would have been a done deal for me. Coming from the Galaxy S upgraded to the SII and within 2 days exchanged for the Raider.
SGS ans SGSII not much difference some but not much TouchWiz just plane sucks in my opinion lockscreen is horrible widgets limited. With my SGS i used ADW launcher just to avoid TouchWiz. Sense maybe a resource hog but it meets everything i was looking in a phone that the SII did not provide. with my first SGS i found myself hack and modding it to hell just so i can get it the way i want it to work and installing apps like widget locker etc. The Raider does not lag and i use this think like a mini computer everything is on with auto sync set to every hour. People say the battery is average i beg to differ i think its amazing battery for a 4.5" device. On very heavy days i get 12-14 hours on medium days it has last 2days and low even 3 days.
This is after i rooted and removed bloat, without bloat i would get max 12 hours on low usage. Still running stock, I like hacking/modding but to much trial and error and not enough time, with the Raider i do not need to mod it just to get basic functionality like SMS prompt or change tracks on lockscreen when phone is locked with pin/pass/pattern. It may seem small for others but that was a deal breaker for me. I need the phone locked but still have access to simple things like music and SMS from lockscreen and should not have to purchase apps like widget locker. Another big reason to jump ships was again weather in lockscreen, here up north weather can be very unpredictable so having that on the lockscreen is a great addition for me and it has saved me a few times already.
If i went SGSII first thing i would do is flash CM9 but then again its not really ready and has bugs.
I am getting this phone on Monday, so excited.
Very happy that it is getting ICS by end of Feb / Early March.
See here under the "Software Updates" Tab - http://bit.ly/x3nvyT
Excelllent!! A velocity thread!!
I just got mine yesterday! Love it. I came from an inspire with wcx Rom.. this is on par with how my inspire was... But I know this phone can be twice as good...
I have a few questions...
How Did you unlock boot loader? Did you select vi I'd from the list on htcdev.com?
If I unlock bootloader will I lose my Telstra warranty?
Can it be undone?
If I flash a new Rom can the phone be returned to stock easily enough?
if I flash a new Rom with wcx which is based on at.t... Will I lose my 1800 MHz LTE?
Sorry about all the novice questions...
One last thing.. when I had my inspire with sense 3.5 it seemed to have more features like the arrows in keyboard. And more items in the power menu... What's up with these disappearing?
I'm getting mine on monday
I also ordered an extended battery online (2600mAh) and the HDMI adapter just for funzies, so I'll let you folks know how well they work
If you want a keyboard with arrows, I use "hackers keyboard" off the market which I love, on my current android NAND htc HD2.
Thanks for the info, especially mark david, good stuff, and I didn't know about the dual-band HSDPA+ that certainly sounds lovely as I do not live in a 4G area (yet, they are upgrading jun/jul)
I would phone telstra to get the info direct from them RE: unlocking the bootloader. As for the rest, don't know yet sorry
Manage to Gain perm root and flash custom CWM recovery by following Step 2) of the superguide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416836
Note that I need to extract the PH39IMG.zip and modify the "android-info.txt" with the below info and repackage it to get it work.
modelid: PH3912000cidnum: TELST001mainver: 2.27.841.6hbootpreupdate:12DelCache:1
I am not sure if I want to flash a custom ROM at this stage but if I do, I ll update you guys again
This thread is reallyt growing, they need an HTC Velocity Section on XDA
Im getting my Velocity Tomorrow
Will crack bootloader tomorrow as soon as i finish work!
Talk soon!
naturalb0rnkiwi said:
This thread is reallyt growing, they need an HTC Velocity Section on XDA
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why? its the same hardware. same phone. hell, my rom is based from the velocity RUU.
Pirateghost said:
why? its the same hardware. same phone. hell, my rom is based from the velocity RUU.
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Just a thought. Shouldn't we be able to use the velocity kernel to get 1.5ghz? Since they're essentially the same device just one is undervolted and one is not?
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kozmikkick said:
Just a thought. Shouldn't we be able to use the velocity kernel to get 1.5ghz? Since they're essentially the same device just one is undervolted and one is not?
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if you are running my rom, you are running the velocity kernel. its going to take more than just flashing that kernel though. unfortunately, i am not a kernel guru, or i would know what else it would take.
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I also ordered an extended battery online (2600mAh) and the HDMI adapter just for funzies, so I'll let you folks know how well they work
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Where did you order the accessories from? I cant find anything for this phone at the moment? Or did you search for "Vivid"
15 bucks for a 3900 mah battery and the reviews (only 2 reviews) are excellent
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005D7T7EK/ref=mp_s_a_8?qid=1332373182&sr=8-8
I would be concerned about the size and not able to use other accessories such as cases, car mount and such..... But I would love to hear your thoughts on this matter if you decided to try this out.
Regards.
Will NFC still work with this battery?
Will NFC still work with this battery?
just ordered one will see if its worth $18
Battery works great and fits good on my ns4g first charge i had over two days with heavy use my stock battery i was lucky to get five hours
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ive had that same battery for about 2 months now.. i love it. i can surf the web and txt for a good 24 hours before i start think bout pluggin it in.
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Is this only for 4g nexus s?
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aspirex said:
Will NFC still work with this battery?
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i thnk so one of the reviews says it was teh 4g antenna on the back plate, so im gonna assume he means nfc antenna
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Is this only for 4g nexus s?
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i thnk so one of the reviews says it was teh 4g antenna on the back plate, so im gonna assume he means nfc antenna
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yes it works with the ns4g as for the nfc there is somthing there but not sure if it works
How does the battery cover look and does is add a lot of bulk to the phone itself? Picture that amazon has sucks nuts.
im not really a fan of extended, I bought the nexus because of its shape compared to my old htc evo and evo 3d. Wish they could of made one that was slim
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im not really a fan of extended, I bought the nexus because of its shape compared to my old htc evo and evo 3d. Wish they could of made one that was slim
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and exactly does this pertain to the OP's question
I do not really care for mountain dew
can we use batteries from other HTC phones?
I know my nexus one battery isn't the same. But i assume the inc 1 and 2 would be the same. Ive read the Evo 4g and Tmobile g2 are the same battery as well.
Its easier to find batteries for an Evo 4g then a INCS.
I wouldn't think so. the evo 4g and g2 batteries are different capacities, so they're almost certainly different physical sizes also.
Why don't you search by the model number of the battery?BA- S520.
Have you know the battery is compatible with HTC phones
sure, the models are old but maybe it helps you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316756
When I bought my battery it was the same as the Desire Z. I never had problems finding a battery for the IncS though.
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Have you know the battery is compatible with HTC phones
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You can try the mugen-power.
I've tried. It's good.
Use high battery capacity made in China ^^
I find my Galaxy Nexus too big, and I am very intrigued by this phone. It looks like I can get it new and unlocked for about $130-160 on Ebay and it has about the same, if not better specs than my Gnex.
Could anyone offer me any arguments for or against this move?
Don't factor unlocked into your buying decision, you can unlock it yourself once you have root.
The "cons":
- "Only" 16 gb of storage (yet I don't know anyone who puts 16 gb of anything on their phone)
- "Mid range" specs (I've tested the most graphically intense games out there and they run smoothly)
- Size
- Facebook Home (not worth mentioning, we're on XDA)
The real cons:
- The camera is relatively weak but it improves with this mod.
- No expandable storage
- No removable battery
- Little attention
The pros:
- High PPI
- Specs
- Good battery life
- LTE, NFC
- Size
- Solid construction
- Matte finish
I don't understand why so few people care about this phone but go gaga over the One Mini, they're practically twins specwise. I guess people just like shiny things I'm a Thinkpad kinda guy so the First looks better to me.
People are trying to port the One Mini's stock 4.2.2 rom, once that's successful we might see Cyanogen on the First. Until then I'd recommend sticking to stock, JMZ's sense rom has a few issues.
Thank You for the information.
I actually consider size one of my primary motivations for going this route. I find most modern phones way too large, and I sure as hell do not want to go the Iphone route. This phone seems like a really awesome phone that just wasn't marketed properly.
I do not mind the mid range specs, and my Gnex already is stuck at 16gb with no expandable storage, and while the battery is removable, its still a pretty weak battery.
I hope to be able to get one off Ebay sometime in the next couple of weeks, wait for the right deal.
In the first set of cons I was referring to things that reviewers have complained about. I kid you not, they complained about screen size after using their Galaxy phones for so long. They complained about numbers in benchmarks that are nigh unnoticeable in actual use. Then they spend the rest of the review bashing FB home which can be turned off with 2 taps.
Well, I purchased a HTC First today off of Ebay. I should be getting it by the end of next week. Pretty excited.
This phone needs a micro sim, not a regular sim is that right?
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Well, I purchased a HTC First today off of Ebay. I should be getting it by the end of next week. Pretty excited.
This phone needs a micro sim, not a regular sim is that right?
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Yes, a micro sim.
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cderrick14 said:
I find my Galaxy Nexus too big, and I am very intrigued by this phone. It looks like I can get it new and unlocked for about $130-160 on Ebay and it has about the same, if not better specs than my Gnex.
Could anyone offer me any arguments for or against this move?
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I thought the HTC First was pretty great coming from the Galaxy Nexus. If you compare screen sizes, the ammount of display available on the Gnex is about equal to what's available on the First due to the on screen buttons on the GNex. I think the First is faster, has a prettier display, and has a really unique look along with LTE. That being said, my biggest complaint is that the phone is a forgotten phone already. There's no development support which is a huge bummer. I'd LOVE it if I could throw CM or AOKP on this device. It would be a dream come true.
I just got this phone and my mom took over my lg optimus g on sprint and put in a straight talk at&t LTE capable micro Sim card. I like the size and stock aosp. Coming from a rooted lg optimus g running pacman.
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We have unofficial cm ports coming so we have some support. But HTC told me that its been discontinued.
Um, ya camera isn't as good as I would like, but hen I was picking between a used one x and this I picked the first cause 1.4ghz is a lot, my hands are small so 4.7 inches is too much and the used one x was 220$ while I got this for 155$ brand new.
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