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Mugen Power 1800mAh

With new roms and gps placing demands on battery life, I opted to look for an alternative. Performance hacks can only work so much before your battery dies out when you have an 1100 or 1500Mah battery. I found this battery on ebay from a store and decided to go for it and here's my findings so far....
The model number I'm testing is HLI-P6800SL and will cost you USD48.55
Here's the link in case you wanna check it out:http://www.mugenpowerbatterijen.nl/
Ebay:http://search.ebay.ca/search/search...=m37&satitle=mugen+power+batteries&category0=
*FIRST IMPRESSIONS*
1) Battery is exactly same size as the OEM, had no problems with fitting. Initially thought its increased capacity it would be make it a tighter fit, wasn't the case, PERFECT FIT!!!
2) Turned on my PPC without any hitches or glitches
3) Free shipping, makes this even sweeter...
4) Juicing it up, will fill you in with a much more detailed comparative analysis, my girlfriend is a true test of battery power
5) After some extended use, battery is still cool, haven't experienced any over-heating some users claim
*PRELIMINARY RESULTS*
Having spent a full 36 hrs with the battery...the results are encouraging to say the least. Do keep in mind that for Li-on cells to be fully functional, they need to go thru at least 3-5 full discharge-charge cycles and this is only the 1st cycle.
I followed the manufacturer's specifications about the initial 12 hour charge, also take into consideration that this test was conditioned, i.e. I dished out extra punishment, GPS ON for every trip, BT headset on for every call, backlight at 40% (which is pretty bright) and send/receive set at 5 minute intervals.
I consider myself a heavy-user during the day (less at night) with usage being split data and voice even. I receive approximately 40-60 emails a day (some with large attachments) and make out just about as many phone calls. So without much ado, here are my results...
Testing started 09:30 when I initially placed the battery 100% and ended 02:49 when it finally discharged 0% = 17hr 19m window. So in order to rate correctly and/or approximately I took the calculation values (credit hofo_mofo) of my 1500mah battery
Talk time (4.5 hr)
Current = Rating / Time
Current = 1500 mAh / 4.5 hr
Current = 333 mA
Standby (230hr)
Current = Rating / Time
Current = 1500 mAh / 230 hr
Current = 6.5mA
Run time based on my daily usage 09:30/100% -22:23/ 0% = 13hr 13min window
VERSUS 1800Mah
Talk Time = Rating / Current
Time = 1800 mAh / 333 mA
Time = 5.4hrs
Standby = Rating / Current
Time = 1800mAh / 6.5mA
Time = 277hrs
Theoretical 5.4 - 4.5/ 4.5 = 26% more power
vs.
Actual 17.19 - 13.13/ 13.13 = 31% increased capacity
I will be back to update my findings after 5 charge cycles and will note any increased or decreased performance, but for now very promising. If you use an 1100mah or any other type of battery, do the math and the numbers will pretty much tell you if it's a worthy purchase or not. I am not in any way recommending you purchase this battery, just sharing my findings. So until then....
Disclaimer this is by NO means a scientific test and results may not be typical

How about a URL and a price?

Interested in your results...

Cruisind00d said:
Interested in your results...
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co-signing thisssssss.....................

Also very interested... My Mogul came with a 1500 battery so the 1650 is a waste of time... but 1800 may be worth it.

I have the seidio 3200mAh battery
Have had it for about a month now. The thing really does perform. I use my phone all day long and rarely go below 70% it's great.
Now, if only Seidio would make the rubberized case for the extended battery things would be better.

were do u get the 3200mah battery n how much did it set u back

Seidio. I mentioned the NAME of the battery as in the name of the company. They MAKE the battery and sell it.

http://www.mugenpowerbatterijen.nl/pda_htc.html
3600
at the bottom.

Very nice review of this battery. Most of the time people just say, "it lasted a day and a half instead of half a day," as if that is any real indication of how the battery performed. You were very specific on how you use your phone and gave an analysis of your results.
They may not be entirely accurate ( due to the every day changes in your usage between the 1800 battery and original batt. ), but I still want to give you props for a decent review.
Suggestion:
Test the 1800 vs Orig using a stopwatch program and gsplayer like here:
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/vbar...gen-extended-battery-for-the-ipaq-2200-series
That way you will get a more precise comparison.
But again, good review of the battery, you were above par on that one .

sanjsrik said:
Have had it for about a month now. The thing really does perform. I use my phone all day long and rarely go below 70% it's great.
Now, if only Seidio would make the rubberized case for the extended battery things would be better.
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how much depth/thickness does that battery add? will it still fit in the stock leather holster?

It added a lot of thickness to the phone exact number I'd check the Seidio site, and no, it won't fit the stock case any more

i bought a mugen extended (fat) battery for the htc tytn ii a few weeks ago and it's performance is a bit strange. while it does add plenty of power to the device, battery drains at normal rate until 14%. then it stays at 14% for a long time before it starts to go down.
so while the battery is useful, the device won't accurately display the remaining battery life. is this the case with this 1800mah mogul bat?

myenhdl said:
i bought a mugen extended (fat) battery for the htc tytn ii a few weeks ago and it's performance is a bit strange. while it does add plenty of power to the device, battery drains at normal rate until 14%. then it stays at 14% for a long time before it starts to go down.
so while the battery is useful, the device won't accurately display the remaining battery life. is this the case with this 1800mah mogul bat?
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Its actually quite accurate, it doesn't hang like my oem battery. I thought it was somewhat the same after the first time when it hung around 10% for more than an hour or so, then it dropped to 5%. I think when the power is that low, it drops in multiples of 5... just a thought.
Will confirm/disprove when my battery is low, come to think of it I've never seen my original battery at 8% either

origins81 said:
*PRELIMINARY RESULTS*
Having spent a full 36 hrs with the battery...the results are encouraging to say the least. Do keep in mind that for Li-on cells to be fully functional, they need to go thru at least 3-5 full discharge-charge cycles and this is only the 1st cycle.
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That's not Li-Ion that's for the old Nickel_MH or cadium batteries
you should never completely discharge Li-ion battery as that will damage them a bit. In fact there's people arguing you should keep your Li-ion battery as high a charge as often as possible.

Defective battery? Mogul LED blinking Red with Mugen 1800mAh
I ordered the Mugen HLI-6800SL 1800mAh standard-sized battery from www.lionbattery.com last week and got it this past Saturday. I put it in my Mogul and proceeded to charge it as per the directions (i.e. in the phone, not on a cradle, with the OEM AC adaptor). After 12 hours, I tried powering up the phone but nothing happens. Furthermore, once I tried plugging in the AC adapter into the Mogul with the battery installed, I get a blinking red LED light.
I emailed lionbattery.com about a replacement. Is this anything I can fix?
Thanks!

symptoms of a discharged battery or a battery about to discharge (end of life cycle). Best action plan at this point is to return it, here's hoping you kept the original receipt, keep me posted how it goes...
So far haven't had any problems, still outperforming my original battery. Will be back to finish my review of the battery in the next 2-3 days

What I'd like to know is who makes hard cases for these? I have a mogul and no one makes a hard case for the sliding keyboard to be functional as well. What i mean is for an extended battery for the mogul and a hard case like the seidio one (thanks seidio for dropping the ball completely on this one).

I bought that 1800MaH battery today. Also bought this: http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Black-Alumi...15036QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
I had a case like that for my Axim, it was awesome. I really dont care that you cant use the touchscreen or keyboard without opening it, I need something rugged and with a high enough ridge buttons dont get pressed. Poor phone rides around in the center console of a Jeep all day long.
I'll post pictures and a little review once I get the items. I also have a good 2400 Mah battery and door I recently got, if anyone wants it I'll ship it in the US for $20. It's 4mm too thick, comes with back door.

Still impressed? The battery is currently out of stock at LionBattery.com

New Battery

hello everyone,
i am planning to buy a new battery for my O2 XDA II but i was just wondering whether it will make any difference in the total running time? my device currently runs for two days with normal usage.
and on average how much does a new battery cost? it is $15.9(australian) on ebay.
thanks for replies in advance

im am using this battery for my XDA, it is larger, and with bigger capacity, note that the origina battery has 1200 mAh capacity, this has 3600 mAh. it really extended the usag time of the XDA, altough it is now BIG to look at.
http://cgi.ebay.ph/3600mAh-Battery-for-O2-XDA-II-IIi_W0QQitemZ200277754970QQihZ010QQcategoryZ38329QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

two days with old battery and normal use is not bad at all.
There are several sellers of 1800, 2400 and 3600 mAh batteries. Because of bad experience with "original Minolta" batteries on Ebay I'd prefer buying from shops that have a reputation to loose.
Ebay feedback is unreliable. Buyers can only give feedback based on if they received the goods and if the goods look like the description. Plus giving negative feedback almost in every case leads to getting negative feedback as well. The seller who sold me fake minolta batteries had 50,000+ feedback, 98% positive. The batteries looked genuine and performed well for over a month. One month later his negative feedback started to increase, he never answered my warranty claims, next month his account was gone.

Battery??
can anyone tell me approx. how long would a new battery last on a hima?
1200 mAh? 1400mAh? 3600mAh?

actually no, nobody can. It highly depends on your personal use, the software you use but most of all:
-the time per day your LCD/Backlight are on
-the brightness settings of your LCD
-how often do you turn it on/off per day
-is IR on or off or on for some time per day
-is bluetooth """""
-how often do you recharge and do you recharge till max capacity
-the quality of your charger
-Do you use it in combination with other hardware like headphone, thumb keyboard...
and so on. It might depend on the radio version that's never been fully studied in this forum AFAIK
but to compare mAh capacity is simple math. If 1200 mAh lasts 3 days, 3600 mAh should last 9 days in the same device with the same use.
Unreliable manufacturers exaggerate capacity.

hi, im a very heavy user, meaning my xda is almost always turned on for i am using unlimited texting feature of my phone, my average text per day is around 400 text messages and 30 minutes of calls per day. my battery (3600mAh) starts at 99% after 24 hours, it may have 25% left, good for another 4 hours use. Please take note that my phone rests for 8-9 hours as i sleep anyways, so continuous use of the 3600mAh batt may be 20 hours CONTINUOUSLY, my backlight is set to minimum and im using WM6.1 OS.
note that with my old 1200mAh batt and my heavy use, the old batt wont last 1 day.
also, im not an ebay seller, i just gave you that link as i had no problem with that seller.

sounds indeed like a good battery, so a good seller. I'm very proud that it takes me 4 hours to completely drain my old 1200 mAh. 5x as much from a new 3600 mah... I guess I'll have to order one...

please also take note that new batteries needs a couple of charge/drain/charge cycles before you will see the effect its large capacity. so give it 2 charge / drain cycles before you evaluate how good it is for you.

@paulpax
Liked the E-bay linked; I'm intersted. Too bad it's E-bay, if only I can communicate with the seller in some other way...

that seller has a phone number in his ebay store, i use that number to contact him when i make my orders, to date my orders have been, 1-3600mAh XDA2 battery, 1-700mAH Tanager Battery, and 1-Canon IXUS battery.

thanks.
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im am using this battery for my XDA, it is larger, and with bigger capacity, note that the origina battery has 1200 mAh capacity, this has 3600 mAh. it really extended the usag time of the XDA, altough it is now BIG to look at.
http://cgi.ebay.ph/3600mAh-Battery-for-O2-XDA-II-IIi_W0QQitemZ200277754970QQihZ010QQcategoryZ38329QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
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hmm... i think im going to drop by their store in Cityland to check out the merchandise first. Thanks for the tip bro.

dell streak mugen 1800 Mah

Yesterday I Got my mugen 1800 mAh (original size) battery.
WOW!
Allmost 7 hours passed right now, doing what I always do (phonecalls, push email etc) and still 87% battery left!
The original battery was really OK (about 20/24 hours) to be honest, but this is much better

Your phone battery percentage, wont be calibrated for the new size in battery so you must have just used your phone less than you usually do. With extended battery, the percentage rate goes down to 1% just as fast as your old battery, but when its gets to 1 your battery just keeps going until it runs out.

You maybe right, but I just had the bluetooth and wifi on for the whole tima, made a few phonecalls and data push as always:
Running for more than 12 hours, percentage left is 61
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manolov85 said:
Yesterday I Got my mugen 1800 mAh (original size) battery.
WOW!
Allmost 7 hours passed right now, doing what I always do (phonecalls, push email etc) and still 87% battery left!
The original battery was really OK (about 20/24 hours) to be honest, but this is much better
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Just waiting to get paid and I will be purchasing that baby.
Glad you are happy with it.

manolov85 said:
Yesterday I Got my mugen 1800 mAh (original size) battery.
WOW!
Allmost 7 hours passed right now, doing what I always do (phonecalls, push email etc) and still 87% battery left!
The original battery was really OK (about 20/24 hours) to be honest, but this is much better
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do you use any of the built in power conservation features, or apps maybe? I don't get that kind of performance with my 1800. Did you do the requisite 5 day 8 to 12 hour charges religiously?

The only energy saving thing I use is the automatic display brightness (android stock). Today I used the phone more intensive and after 10 hours still got 70% batt.
I only charge the phone when I go to sleep, for about 7/8 hours.
Im really happy with the new batt
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Mine is not so good - with medium usage it barely survives working day...
I have gmail sync all the time and do not use wifi
Sent from my Dell Streak using Tapatalk

Its strange how varied people's streak battery lasts. I use mine quite a bit, like listen to music and surf the internet and text for half and hour to and from work, then same for my half hour break and for my hour break at lunch, so that's 2 and a half hours of music net texting sometimes gaming also. And when I put it on charge before I go to sleep its normally over 50% everyday, it just about lasts 2 days doing the same thing on my breaks and on way to work. But normally charge it everyday just incase that's pretty good battery life I think. Might get one of these extended batteries. Really thinking about the massive 4800 one, but would like to see and hold it with it inbefore I bought it, but don't know anywhere that sells them where I live.

I had one of those 1800 mAh batteries too but it gave me worse performance than stock. I returned it. I dont know what was wrong.
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App

the varied performance might have a little bit to do too with how many and what kind of apps are installed on a given device. I know I have a whole heap of stuff that I really have no serious need for, but see running in the background every so often doing what they do. I used to freeze them because I want to keep them, but don't necessarily want them right away.
I've done away with all that now though. Bought an Atrix with a 1930 Mha battery. Love the Streak as I did, I can now once again operate my phone with one hand again.

I am currently waiting on the mugen 1800 Mah battery and I am also testing the 4800 Mah battery really large but I use my Streak alot at work for calls, SMS, email exchange (Moxier Mail) photo's, internet and also reading books etc...
The most I got from my stock battery was 15 hrs 45mins that was due to forgetting my charger, I had about 12% left once I finally got home...
I will be doing reviews at Mobilitysite.com...

PPCApache said:
I am currently waiting on the mugen 1800 Mah battery and I am also testing the 4800 Mah battery really large but I use my Streak alot at work for calls, SMS, email exchange (Moxier Mail) photo's, internet and also reading books etc...
The most I got from my stock battery was 15 hrs 45mins that was due to forgetting my charger, I had about 12% left once I finally got home...
I will be doing reviews at Mobilitysite.com...
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fancy posting some pics would like to see how wide it is thinking about getting the 4800 mah one, also is it really heavy?

would love to know more about the 4800mah and the 1800mah.... keep us updated!

Still realy happy with the 1800
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would love to know more about the 4800mah and the 1800mah.... keep us updated!
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Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App

Mugen 1800mAh Extended Battery
Hi all well I have been testing the 1800mAh battery and completed my review at MobilitySite.com, if any one is interested they can view it at the link below. The one benefit of the 1800mAh battery is that it is the same size as the standard 1530mAh battery so no new battery cover.
Mugen 1800mAh Battery Review.
Currently now using and testing the 4800mAh battery... WOW! just love it only been using it for about 5 days got 40 hrs the other day, currently at 62% now and it has been off the cradle since 6:43am and it is now 8:24pm - almost 14 hours.
It is big but for me thats fine, I will be completing another review this weekend with photo's.
Cheers guys...

Is there any car mount that fits the Streak with the 4800 battery?

Hey people
If anyone is interested I have just posted my review on the MUGEN 4800mAh battery just click the review image in my signature.
Really liked the battery was excellent got up to 40 hours before I had to charge again, size was large but still easy to use, just wish there was a case that would fit it.
Cheers

Really like that review. I'm actually in the process of getting one of these batteries for my Dell Streak. The original battery in my phone overheated and isn't holding a charge very well after that incident. So I am getting the 1800 mAh battery.
Looks like it is going to take awhile as it is taking the long way from China to the US but, after reading that, I'm pretty convinced that it will be worth it. I will update when I recieve it.

procupine14 said:
Looks like it is going to take awhile as it is taking the long way from China to the US but, after reading that, I'm pretty convinced that it will be worth it. I will update when I recieve it.
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i got two 1800 mAh bat from china.. its working almost 20% more that stock "1530 Made in Japan".. but i still need replace bat every 7-8hours...
my spec
Simple Streak 1.2
Wifi + GPS + Skype - enabled
Screen - automode
2 hour under Moscow subway (periodicly on/off network coverage very hard drain bat)
1-2 calls by phone
on end of day i got 5-20% of China 1800mAh bat 8(

I just got one of this china 1800 mah betterys, costs 2,52 €, and i just can tell you: put your hands away from this. is even whorser than the standard battery with less capacity.

LG G4 Battery Guide

READ THIS BEFORE READING FURTHER: THE NUMBERS LISTED AFTER THE BATTERIES ARE EBAY LISTING NUMBERS, JUST TYPE THE NUMBERS INTO THE EBAY SEARCH BOX TO FIND THE BATTERIES
-HOW TO TEST SCREEN ON TIME (SoT)- (Note that I do not recommend any type of battery waster app, they get your phone way to hot)
**Feel free to contribute to this post. Screen On Time's are done by taxing your phone for hours on end, examples of this are watching youtube videos nonstop, watching movies, surfing the internet, ect.. I personally run youtube videos by "Ollie Duracell" that are an hour long each, fullscreened with an actual video not a picture(you dont want display burn in), one after the other at full volume. Brightness at 60%, I use lower 60% brightness just so my phone doesn't get hot. I turn GPS on at max(high accuracy setting), just so I have more battery drain. And I use WiFi instead of the 4glte for data. **
-BATTERY LIFE CONSERVATION-
To save battery life after testing your battery, you could simply lower brightness even more(i actually leave it at 60%), and disable GPS(disabling GPS will get you at least an hour more on battery life). Oh and one more note, I charge my original battery and extended batteries normally while still in the phone. There are theories that you have to use an external charger to get 100% battery life, but I do not believe that to be true. I can get 5hrs screen on time out of the original LG battery when turning off GPS. Also, LG original battery is not good quality, if you do the math, these batteries out perform it comparing MAH to MAH.
-BATTERIES-
-Stock Size- (These are the same size as the original battery, they will fit with no extra bulk)
LG OEM Original Battery 3000mah 8$ - # 142078401018 - 3 hrs 20 mins SoT (Note that this battery's temp runs at 40c)
TQTHL 5000mah 15$ and 17$ - # 232081189647 201651649963 - 4 hrs 30 mins SoT
SPORTING PERSISTENCE 5020mah 16$ - # 331721090190
HIGH POWER/URS2GO 5020mah 16$ - # 262402622378
BEST4POWER 5000mah 15$ - # 182256806540
HSA 4100mah CHINA 21$ - # 131925733805
Unknown Brand 3800mah (Note that this is a Lithium Polymer battery) 8$ - # 291558969973
Unknown Brand 3500mah 7$ - # 391541318300
-Thicker Size- (Thicker than Original Battery, these will come with a new case that will make your phone thicker)
TQTHL 7800mah(Note that this is a PowerBear Copy with a 2 back cover design) 25$ and 28$ # 201665622674 201651649963
Unknown Brand 7500mah 23$ - # 112116566655
MAX POWER 6800mah 11$ - # 201423883054
LINK DREAM 6500mah 6$ - # 291876568093
RUNDAS 6400mah 14$ - # 361451087957
KRANICH 6000mah 19$ - # 381633437931
-Thickest Size- (Will make your phone the thickest possible, like an old calculator lol but totally worth it)
Kranich - 8200mah USA(Note that this is a Lithium Polymer battery) 25$ - 172185568447 - 11 hrs 50 mins SoT (Note that this battery's temp runs at 23c, alot cooler than the stock LG Battery)
Heliotion - 8200mah CHINA 23$ - # 321968190130
-GOOD BUT EXPENSIVE BRANDS- (Any Battery you buy name-brand by any of these guys is going to be pricey, but will for sure be good)
Zerolemon
Powerbear
Anker
Gorilla Gadgets
Hyperion

Thanks for this Guide and for including me in it. The sad thing is I don't get good signal here so only WiFi. I'm sure someone could calculate my runs with LTE use
Edit: the TQTHL brand is good. They have remade there branding colors to a more darker Blue than the old light blue color (post a pic in a bit)

WAIDroid said:
Thanks for this Guide and for including me in it. The sad thing is I don't get good signal here so only WiFi. I'm sure someone could calculate my runs with LTE use
Edit: the TQTHL brand is good. They have remade there branding colors to a more darker Blue than the old light blue color (post a pic in a bit)
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How is the TQTHL battery performing over time? Does it still retain its original capacity?
Because my chinese 4000mah battery used to work great for couple days and then started losing capacity to the point where after little more than 1 month it's useless

Well my 4500 still works but I'll need at least 5 more runs with the 5000

WAIDroid said:
Well my 4500 still works but I'll need at least 5 more runs with the 5000
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May I ask you what's your average SOT with the 4500mah now after some time has passed?

marn3us said:
May I ask you what's your average SOT with the 4500mah now after some time has passed?
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I'll let you know by tomorrow afternoon
Edit: Just so you know I'm back on 5.1 cause during my time on 6.0.1 i found that my Batteries no longer worked correctly but on 5.1 they work fine again. Now idk if it' MM or a bug in my motherboard (which i doubt cause i changed my phone once) or a bug within MM

Newb question, but do you need to be rooted to calibrate the battery with a different mah than the stock size? Or will draining it and recharging it a few times work just as well? Thanks!

toastthemost said:
Newb question, but do you need to be rooted to calibrate the battery with a different mah than the stock size? Or will draining it and recharging it a few times work just as well? Thanks!
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Yeah I think the OS has the mah locked @3000 cause I need to use the battery widget to edit the mah but no root is required. The wedgit is on my thread first post
Just so you know it don't actually edit the mah in the OS Kernel just the App

Here's my 4500mah. Now below it all depends on what you do but for me I don't game at all. Just YouTube and site seeing

WAIDroid said:
Here's my 4500mah. Now below it all depends on what you do but for me I don't game at all. Just YouTube and site seeing
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Is the OS properly reading battery capacity or is it stuck at 3000mAh? I mean, going from 100% to 14% did you consume 3870mAh (out of 4500) or 2580mAh so you still have almost 2000 available?
Thanks in advance

Nope it's locked @3000 and yes I'd say so. I'm on my 8200mah right now. Some pics later on for battery consumption

WAIDroid said:
Nope it's locked @3000 and yes I'd say so. I'm on my 8200mah right now. Some pics later on for battery consumption
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Just to be clear: you think you used only 2580mAh (86% of 3000) so you still have 2000 left even if it says 14%?
Thanks again

marn3us said:
Just to be clear: you think you used only 2580mAh (86% of 3000) so you still have 2000 left even if it says 14%?
Thanks again
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No No I think I had maybe 1500mah left or something similar to that

It would be interesting if we could set the battery capacity to 4500mAh with root... Do you know if it's possible?

So far they are saying its not possible. You have to change a kernal in the programming code to change the MAH capacity, and no one can find out on how to do it. Someone was trying to get in touch with a coder from LG but so far its a no go as I understand.

Yeah I'd say give up on that and just use the battery widget app

WAIDroid said:
Yeah I'd say give up on that and just use the battery widget app
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Oh I see, what a pity... Does that battery widget correctly read extended battery's capacity?

marn3us said:
Oh I see, what a pity... Does that battery widget correctly read extended battery's capacity?
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umm I actually don't know really. I just edit the mah and go from there

Just bought a export h815 set. The battery isnt impressive at all. Didnt manage to get even 3hours SOT. Even flash from mm to lolipop and didnt see much improvement. Is it hardware issue with the phone itself or just the battery. ( change the battery and see slight improvement).

It's mainly due to high screen resolution and the cpu/gpu. Just saying a guy who don't game at all and especially the high resolution on a 5.7 inch screen? Come on 720p is all we really need. I don't game so can't say on that behalf

Note 5 Battery capacity left test ( mAh ) and hours of SOT

I found myself seeking threads in these forums about different ROM's and SOT obtained. The results were way different between different users, some claim to get 2.5h SOT some 5h SOT under normal circumstances.
Under normal circumstances I never get more than 3h and I suspected that my worn battery (598 charge cycles according to "Charge Cycle Battery Stats" app) was far from the original 3000mAh.(Thats a manufacturer stat obtained in perfect conditions, real world must be around 2800mAh)
I needed to measure the capacity left in mAh,so I bought a USB ammeter power meter (Keweisi white digits, but you don't need it, I'll explain later).
Using the Power meter, to measure properly you need to avoid thermal loss and power loss when charging:
- Note 5 completely discharged at 1 or 2% battery left.
- Disconnect the Fast charge option in Android.
- From start to finish keep the note 5 Switched off.
- Use an USB low power charger, mine was charging at 0.8A
Results: 1800mah that's far from the 2800mAh(3000mAh) when new.
(Same test I'm getting 2200mAh out of the original 2800mAh on my old Galasy S5 Neo.)
You don't need USB ammeter, Android has a builtin ammeter calculator(estimation).
Today I depleted the battery (2% left) of my note 5 again (Rom based on Android 7.0) and under battery usage I added all the "Computed Power Usage" in mAh giving the next results:
mAh
557 Cell standby (I worked underground today)
333 Screen 2h53m (30% brightness and auto brightness on)
271 Device Idle
221 chrome
203 Android OS
43 Google Play Serv.
39 Androyd System
27 Youtube
20 Yahoo Mail
20 Wi fi
17 com.android.systemui
Total: 1751mAh
This result shows that the phone itself makes a good estimation of mAh juice available in you battery.
As an anecdote I run the same test that Jerryrigeverything in YT with his Note 5(6 month of use): Playing a 2k video in 100% brightness( auto brightness off) with sound and in Flight Mode(not even wifi). He gets 6h20m, I surprisingly get 6h. But those test are only worth to compare Note 5's
Conclusions(my own and humble): Surprising degradation of my battery, specially compared with the results obtained in my S5 Neo. According to "battery university" (a good scientific source of information about Lithium-Ion) I might have shorten the life of my battery abusing of the fast charge mode.

monkeyisland3G said:
I found myself seeking threads in these forums about different ROM's and SOT obtained. The results were way different between different users, some claim to get 2.5h SOT some 5h SOT under normal circumstances.
Under normal circumstances I never get more than 3h and I suspected that my worn battery (598 charge cycles according to "Charge Cycle Battery Stats" app) was far from the original 3000mAh.(Thats a manufacturer stat obtained in perfect conditions, real world must be around 2800mAh)
I needed to measure the capacity left in mAh,so I bought a USB ammeter power meter (Keweisi white digits, but you don't need it, I'll explain later).
Using the Power meter, to measure properly you need to avoid thermal loss and power loss when charging:
- Note 5 completely discharged at 1 or 2% battery left.
- Disconnect the Fast charge option in Android.
- From start to finish keep the note 5 Switched off.
- Use an USB low power charger, mine was charging at 0.8A
Results: 1800mah that's far from the 2800mAh(3000mAh) when new.
(Same test I'm getting 2200mAh out of the original 2800mAh on my old Galasy S5 Neo.)
You don't need USB ammeter, Android has a builtin ammeter calculator(estimation).
Today I depleted the battery (2% left) of my note 5 again (Rom based on Android 7.0) and under battery usage I added all the "Computed Power Usage" in mAh giving the next results:
mAh
557Cell standby(I worked underground today)
333Screen 2h53m (30% brightness and auto brightness on)
271Device Idle
221chrome
203Android OS
43Google Play Serv.
39Androyd System
27Youtube
20Yahoo Mail
20Wi fi
17com.android.systemui
Total: 1751mAh
This result shows that the phone itself makes a good estimation of mAh juice available in you battery.
As an anecdote I run the same test that Jerryrigeverything in YT with his Note 5(6 month of use): Playing a 2k video in 100% brightness( auto brightness off) with sound and in Flight Mode(not even wifi). He gets 6h20m, I surprisingly get 6h. But those test are only worth to compare Note 5's
Conclusions(my own and humble): Surprising degradation of my battery, specially compared with the results obtained in my S5 Neo. According to "battery university" (a good scientific source of information about Lithium-Ion) I might have shorten the life of my battery abusing of the fast charge mode.
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Same here, the problem is that is quiet impossible to find a genuine battery for replacement. All those on amazon and ebay are crap.

memeliv said:
Same here, the problem is that is quiet impossible to find a genuine battery for replacement. All those on amazon and ebay are crap.
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That's the next step, find a good provider and compare capacities.
What I know so far is that there's 2 different battery models:
EB-BN920ABE The most common, but most reviews complain about being 4 or 5 mm shorter, ...less volume less capacity.
EB-BN920ABA Difficult to find, It seems the original replacement according to this picture:
https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/UTB8YQ_yanzIXKJkSafVq6yWgXXa0.jpg The original is the right side one.
I found a Canadian provider who seems serious (free of fantasy marketing) who also ships worldwide, it looks like the original, (or a extremely good copy) I'm going to take the risk and try it:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OEM-EB-BN920ABA-3000mAh-Replacement-Battery-for-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-5-N920-N920A/401346669803?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
I'll post results in about 6 weeks....

monkeyisland3G said:
That's the next step, find a good provider and compare capacities.
What I know so far is that there's 2 different battery models:
EB-BN920ABE The most common, but most reviews complain about being 4 or 5 mm shorter, ...less volume less capacity.
EB-BN920ABA Difficult to find, It seems the original replacement according to this picture:
https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/UTB8YQ_yanzIXKJkSafVq6yWgXXa0.jpg The original is the right side one.
I found a Canadian provider who seems serious (free of fantasy marketing) who also ships worldwide, it looks like the original, (or a extremely good copy) I'm going to take the risk and try it:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OEM-EB-BN920ABA-3000mAh-Replacement-Battery-for-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-5-N920-N920A/401346669803?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
I'll post results in about 6 weeks....
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How did it go? Those eBay batteries tend to be pretty bad in my experience.

Finally someone else is concerned about note 5 battery capacity, i replaced mine with an original one in feb 2018 from a nearby samsung service center for $40, i used Accubattery app to measure and compare the battery capacity of the old vs the new battery.
After two years of usage and fast charging enabled in all of charge sessions, the old battery was giving me 76% (2291 mAh) of the original capacity, while the new one is giving me 89% (2675 mAh) right now, the weird thing is that it was giving me 90% right when i purchased it, i dont know if this is normal or not.
As for SOT, the old battery was giving me 2.5 hours on average, with an average of 17 hours of total usage, the new one gives me 3.5 to 4 hours with an average of 20 hours of total usage (disconnect at 100% from charger and drained to 1% or 2%)
Hope you find this post helpful

monkeyisland3G said:
That's the next step, find a good provider and compare capacities.
What I know so far is that there's 2 different battery models:
EB-BN920ABE The most common, but most reviews complain about being 4 or 5 mm shorter, ...less volume less capacity.
EB-BN920ABA Difficult to find, It seems the original replacement according to this picture:
https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/UTB8YQ_yanzIXKJkSafVq6yWgXXa0.jpg The original is the right side one.
I found a Canadian provider who seems serious (free of fantasy marketing) who also ships worldwide, it looks like the original, (or a extremely good copy) I'm going to take the risk and try it:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OEM-EB-B...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
I'll post results in about 6 weeks....
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I'm in the same boat as you. My battery life blows and I am looking for a decent replacement so I don't have to buy a new phone. How did that one work out for you?