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hello again everyone!!!
i just got a set of blueant x5i stereo bluetooth headphones yesterday... they look cool and feel cool... call quality is great...
but the mp3 sound through my tmobile wing is HORRIBLE!!! i tried the headphones on my co-worker's t-mobile dash and they sound awesome... i can't figure out why they sound so muddy and crackly on my phone... is there a setting somewhere that i am missing??? perhaps a firmware upgrade for my phone that would solve this issue???
any help or insight would be greatly appreciated...
thanks in advance,
bennie
How does playback sound through the included (if any headset) or through the loud speaker? If it sounds good (normal) through those then its most likely a blue tooth problem. When you sync it up are you around anything that could possibly interfere with it during the sync process? There have been a few times when I am making a call (rare) but it wont get a good connection and everything will sound like I am under water or worse. (more with my old phone having a crappy radio)
If you have sync'd the two a fair ammount of times and its always the same sounding quality might look on the T-Moble Wings forum (this is the HTC s730) and see if other users have had the same problem. I wouldnt see it having a bad HTC driver, but it might not be very compatable with that headset?
its hard to judge sound the the loud speaker... it sounds bad no matter what...
when hard wired through the headphones that came with the unit, the mp3 playback is fine... its not crackly like this headset is... i tried resyncing a few times as far away from everything as i could so there would be no interference... i never sync my music files though bluetooth so i know that the files aren't getting corrupted... they are going through usb...
i think it has something to do with the phone...
Double check the compatability on the headset, if it plays fine through the USB headphones, and the headset sounds perfectly fine on another phone...
What version is the heatset? blue tooth 2 or whatever the newer version is? I know the phone supports it but something else might have changed? Just something to look into.
Aside from a firmware flash or some software bug I cant think of anything else If the compatability show's up that it should work might try calling HTC's support line?
i contacted blueant before purchase and they assured me the headset is compatible... also tmobile claims that its compatible as well... they even have tmobile packaed oem boxes for this particular headset... the hardware protocols also line up... technically, everything should work!!!
i already contacted htc with regards to this issue... this was their reply:
Thank you for your inquiry in regards to Bluetooth headset stereo issue.
Ben, I know how important it is for you to have the bluetooth headset working properly, Unfortunately there is no updates or patch available for the T-mobile wing to fix the issue, although T-mobile might have a ROM upgrade. The reason why the T-mobile dash had no issues with the headset is because it has different drivers for bluetooth support. Look into possibly upgrading the device rom to try and resolve the issue, otherwise you'll need to purchase another headset which is compatible with the device.
i looked into updating the rom and it appears that i have the newest version: 4.10.531.3 WWE from march 15th 07... i wasnt' able to find anything newer... does someone else know of a newer version for the hera110???
Hmm, might be something in T-Mobiles software that is nerfing your set... Not sure of what though...
Hi all, I have had this bug in varying flavours with both the Wizard and now the Kaiser.
If I make a call via Bluetooth (certain devices only e.g. JVC in car stereo), after the call, all audio is lost on the device when using the speaker, e.g. no ringtones, no TomTom voice guidance. (Oddly the touchtone sounds on the phone dialler continue to work.)
Making another call via Bluetooth works fine and all audio is heard, but not if calling via the earpiece of the phone - all phone audio is still muted. A reboot is required. (Even after a reboot, sometimes all audio is muted, and 2 or 3 reboots are required.)
It is like Bluetooth is 'stealing' the audio from the phone's speaker (which is should), but not giving it back at the end, however turning off Bluetooth doesn't return it.
It happens with WM6.x on the TyTN II.
If you can fix it either via a workaround (reboot the audio service after every call?) or a direct fix (HTC are useless and have not emailed me back), I will pledge you $100 via PayPal. I am sure others will join me in pledging an amount also.
Yes. I've seen the same thing with the last stock Tilt ROM, too.
Same here. But is not happening very often.
The other issue for me is if I have A2DP enable and listening to music, then making a phone call will drop the A2DP connection and I have to reconnect A2DP again. It happens to both my JVC car unit and Sony HBH DS220.
I tried that w/ Dutty's WM6.0 and the latest 6.1 rom
I have the same issue, with bluetooth disconnects.
Just staying on-topic here (you can solve A2DP issues with A2DPToggle a great free app), has anyone found a solution to this Bluetooth loss of speaker audio issue, or a workaround to avoid it happening?
Rebooting the phone after every Bluetooth phone call is hardly what I consider a high-end smartphone to require.
Same here
What Radio's are you guys running? (Ignore my signature for the moment, been phoneless and away from here for a while and just getting back up to date )
Haz
My current radio is 1.64.08.21.
I have also tried 1.64.06.04.
Could we be closer to finding the problem? Does the Radio contain the Bluetooth stack?
Here are all available Radios:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
I'm going to try 1.58.26.20 now. I suggest others try the other 1.5x variants and report back if any of them solve the bug.
Update: I am now offering $100 to anyone who can fix this - see 1st thread.
I have used Windows Mobile since the first ever SPV phone. This one issue is making me look seriously at abandoning that loyalty and getting a Blackberry. If I can fix this for $100 I could be tempted to stay however.
Have you tried BT Audio Toggle ? (found at http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/sams...luetooth-headset.html?perpage=20&pagenumber=1)
Maybe if this helps with your problem then a mortscript could be written to automatically run the utility after a phone call.
What bluetooth headset do you have? Have you tried other headsets or just the one you have? What version of 6.1 are you using?
Thanks, I'll give the audio toggle a go. Might need some help with Mortscript though
I am using the JVC KD-BT1 car stereo with Bluetooth in-car kit. However I can also lose audio on a clean boot even when not in the car, although that is very rare. When using it with the car stereo, it happens after almost every call.
I am running Sleuth's WM6.1 but the other people in this thread are using a variety of BT devices, ROMs, and HTC models.
Can anyone help with how to create a MortScript to run BTAudioOff.exe after each phone call?
Flash a NIKI radio. I had a similar issue with my JVC in-dash CD player and I just got all the radios and tried them all. All the NIKI radios seem to work a lot of the time, while some work and others don't.
Kraize92 said:
Flash a NIKI radio. I had a similar issue with my JVC in-dash CD player and I just got all the radios and tried them all. All the NIKI radios seem to work a lot of the time, while some work and others don't.
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Thanks, I'll try that too.
Rumball said:
Have you tried BT Audio Toggle ? (found at http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/sams...luetooth-headset.html?perpage=20&pagenumber=1)
Maybe if this helps with your problem then a mortscript could be written to automatically run the utility after a phone call.
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Okay I tried this and before I even got in the car, chose to turn Bluetooth Audio off using the toggle. Since then I cannot recreate the issue! I am not having to toggle after every call, I only did it once and the problem won't come back!
Fingers crossed...
NP. 1 more thing. What do you mean all audio is lost? Do you mean that the auido goes through the bt device? Or just that there is no audio coming from either at all. If that's the case, then all you might have to do is go to Comm Manager>Settings>Bluetooth>JVC (or whatever you named it) and uncheck the Stereo sound and viola it should work unless you are not using A2DP >.> . I think it's either directing all sound to your bt device or trying to send sound to it but failing.
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NP. 1 more thing. What do you mean all audio is lost? Do you mean that the auido goes through the bt device? Or just that there is no audio coming from either at all. If that's the case, then all you might have to do is go to Comm Manager>Settings>Bluetooth>JVC (or whatever you named it) and uncheck the Stereo sound and viola it should work unless you are not using A2DP >.> . I think it's either directing all sound to your bt device or trying to send sound to it but failing.
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The issue is there is no audio coming from either the phone or the Bluetooth device. I hear the Bluetooth device disconnect, and its display shows that it has also.
I see no 'Stereo' option to untick for the JVC in its Bluetooth settings, only Hands-free and Wireless Stereo (already unticked).
No progress
Okay, this is seriously getting me down now It all sounded so promising. I have tried the following:
Flashed Niki Radio 1.58.21.23
Tried using Bluetooth Toggle - it seemed to work once when I turned BT off before connecting, but after a reboot the problem is back
Tried a HFP extension PM'd to me (thanks anyway - didn't help)
Made sure Bluetooth Stereo is unticked in the JVC's settings on the phone
I am not sure if the problem is worse when taking a call as TomTom is running.
Here is an interesting development which might help someone narrow down the cause:
I make a few calls, and as always audio is lost, even for phone calls sometimes.
Touchtones on the keypad are the only sound that the phone continues to emit itself. Everything else (TomTom, ringtones, etc.) is dead.
I then go into the JVC's A2DP mode and 'Connect'. The icon appears on the mobile's title bar, and I can hear phone audio through the car stereo.
I 'Disconnect' and the phone's audio is still lost.
What this tells us is that the phone is putting out sound, just not through the speaker.
If someone can write something that will reset the speaker driver after a call, my offer for $100 still stands.
Just to update this, the issue still exists with a clean install of HTC's new 2-May-08 WM6.1 ROM from their website. To***rs!
CJSnet,
Since we got the similar setup w/ exact the same issue (Att Tilt w/ JVC BT-1), I think the problem is basically Kaiser does not switch back to A2DP profile properly after headset profile from phone call. The same issue happens to my Sony HBH DS-220 stereo headset too.
I tried my Eten M600 w/ JVC BT-1 and does not see this problem
All of the 2.2 based ROMs don't have the headset functionality I'm looking for, and it appears it's a 2.2 issue.
Is anyone still working on 2.1 based ROM's?
Whether it's still under development or not, where can I find a couple of good simple bloatware free 2.1 based ROMs?
I tried searching the development forum, but there's so much about current ROMs (2.2 based) that I can't filter through them and find a 2.1 based ROM.
Thanks, alabamaroping
what headset functionality do you think is broken on all 2.2 roms? those issues have all been resolved unless you have some random new one
I'm looking to have the call output routed through a standard headset connection, NOT the headset that came with the phone that supports mic, and stereo audio out.
A standard headphone connection only has the audio out, no mic. (as I'm sure you know). I'll be listening to music in my truck, and a call will come in and i'll have to unjack the 3.5mm jack and grab the phone instead of the call just routing through the speakers.
I've tried the following: (Cognition 2.3b7, AXURA 2.4, eSPyeL's ROM Beta3.4.1). None of them work.
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I'm looking to have the call output routed through a standard headset connection, NOT the headset that came with the phone that supports mic, and stereo audio out.
A standard headphone connection only has the audio out, no mic. (as I'm sure you know). I'll be listening to music in my truck, and a call will come in and i'll have to unjack the 3.5mm jack and grab the phone instead of the call just routing through the speakers.
I've tried the following: (Cognition 2.3b7, AXURA 2.4, eSPyeL's ROM Beta3.4.1). None of them work.
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AS far as I know no one is still working on 2.1 roms anymore. To tell the truth from all the roms I have have seen the "issue" with the headset without a mic may not be a clitch. I will have to ask a few people that got the 2.2 official update to make sure but I think it was changed on purpose by google. (could be wrong though, will have to wait till I talk to some people)
The car dock allows call output to standard headphones, just got mine yesterday and it works. But, you know it's against the law almost everywhere to wear headphones and drive right?
Captivate Froyo / Perception Build 9 - Cog Kernel 4
Sent via XDA through the ether that is.
no headphones
Actually, I don't drive with headphones. I have a 3.5mm jack run into my truck stereo system. It's the same as a headphone jack, so I just use that as an example.
I've been using headphones to test functionality when sitting in my office, and the jack is the same, so I've been using the two interchangeably.
However, you are correct: it's unsafe to drive with headphones, but I see the iPeople doing it with their iPhones & iPods all the time.
The only 2.1 ROM out there still that should be available is Cognition. Lord knows though I haven't tried to download it... buyer beware.
Might just be easier to keep your "stock" 2.1 - Root it and get an application like Titanium Backup that will uninstall the bloat on your phone.
And.. I thought the issue for 2.2 custom ROMS were due to the use of i9000 modems/kernels? Or was that only Bluetooth?
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And.. I thought the issue for 2.2 custom ROMS were due to the use of i9000 modems/kernels? Or was that only Bluetooth?
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Also, does the bluetooth issue still exist on the never versions? I haven't used my bluetooth earpiece in along time so I haven't bothered to try on these newer roms.
I have begun to start flashing my captivate and have noticed that (at least to what i believe) in froyo you can not use headphones to listen to call audio. I have flashed 2 stock eclair roms and they are working perfectly with this feature. However any eclair rom I try sound is only routed to the internal speakers. I have tried Perception, cognition and even JI6 stock. None will route call audio through the headphones.
If anyone could test it on their phones and report back that would be great. I am wondering if it a bug in captivate froyo roms, or if it is just because of froyo.
*Update*
Found this thread in the Vibrant Forums. Initially they say it is a problem with froyo. However there are a couple roms which do fix the problem. So there must be a way for our captivate too.
Any one have any luck testing this on their rom?
has a solution been found for this?
i cant use any audio out =(, having the same problem with it hooked up in my car
Look for roms that have:
xcaliburinhand's
-headset jack fix
hardware solutions
You are correct sir. Anything 2.2 or newer (2.2.1) does not enable audio out through the headset (even with Xcal's headset fix) unless you are using a headset that has a microphone on it.
How does the phone know? If you look at your headset that came with the phone, it has 3 rings around the plug. Left audio, Right audio, and Mic. If the phone doesn't see that 3rd ring, then it will turn off audio out when a call comes in.
The fix will cost you about $20. You can get an adapter with 3 rings going into the phone, and a female spot for the audio you hook to your car.
If you already have a 3.5mm jack hard wired to your vehicle and/or want to use the cable you have, use this:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26380 (what I got)
or this:
http://www.amazon.com/Monster-iSoni...RCTS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1295297829&sr=8-2
(what I wish I would have got)
If you have an AUX port on the front of your radio, and want another solution (new cable) buy this:
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-GC170...PYKK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1295297829&sr=8-4
Good luck.
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You are correct sir. Anything 2.2 or newer (2.2.1) does not enable audio out through the headset (even with Xcal's headset fix) unless you are using a headset that has a microphone on it.
How does the phone know? If you look at your headset that came with the phone, it has 3 rings around the plug. Left audio, Right audio, and Mic. If the phone doesn't see that 3rd ring, then it will turn off audio out when a call comes in.
The fix will cost you about $20. You can get an adapter with 3 rings going into the phone, and a female spot for the audio you hook to your car.
If you already have a 3.5mm jack hard wired to your vehicle and/or want to use the cable you have, use this:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26380 (what I got)
or this:
http://www.amazon.com/Monster-iSoni...RCTS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1295297829&sr=8-2
(what I wish I would have got)
If you have an AUX port on the front of your radio, and want another solution (new cable) buy this:
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-GC170...PYKK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1295297829&sr=8-4
Good luck.
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Thank you so much for your informative post.
Problem is.... $20 is too much atm. I am POOR with a capital PO'.... I couldn't afford to capitalize the or. Wonder if there would possibly be any way to work around this issue software-wise? My stereo aux cable worked great in Eclair. Problem is, I don't get al the speed and shiny of Froyo with Eclair. At least I know what the issue is now...
alabamaroping said:
You are correct sir. Anything 2.2 or newer (2.2.1) does not enable audio out through the headset (even with Xcal's headset fix) unless you are using a headset that has a microphone on it.
How does the phone know? If you look at your headset that came with the phone, it has 3 rings around the plug. Left audio, Right audio, and Mic. If the phone doesn't see that 3rd ring, then it will turn off audio out when a call comes in.
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Pretty much nailed it. Once the kernel receives the interrupt that something has been plugged in, it checks the resistance between ring 3 and 4 (microphone and ground). If it is low, the kernel recognizes that it is either a normal pair of earphones or a line out (since ring 3 and 4 are the same on a normal 3 ring connector).
Gothpunk4christ reached out to me for a solution that doesn't require additional hardware (still want's to use the microphone on the handset). Shouldn't be too difficult to build a custom kernel that treats headphones/line out as a wired headset. The kicker is making sure the kernel doesn't disable the handset microphone.
xcaliburinhand said:
Pretty much nailed it. Once the kernel receives the interrupt that something has been plugged in, it checks the resistance between ring 3 and 4 (microphone and ground). If it is low, the kernel recognizes that it is either a normal pair of earphones or a line out (since ring 3 and 4 are the same on a normal 3 ring connector).
Gothpunk4christ reached out to me for a solution that doesn't require additional hardware (still want's to use the microphone on the handset). Shouldn't be too difficult to build a custom kernel that treats headphones/line out as a wired headset. The kicker is making sure the kernel doesn't disable the handset microphone.
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You're awesome dude.
If anyone's looking for someone to randomly donate to, this guy is it. He's been very helpful and polite and going beyond what I would consider a helpful response in order to make this work.
So will this hit development anytime soon?
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
seriously.
This is majorly irritating--I use my captivate as an mp3player all the time and it's a pain in the ass to take out my headphones every time a call comes through.
I9000_reoriented_v2.3.1_bln_hpcalls.zip has a fix in it.
Enjoy.
xcaliburinhand said:
I9000_reoriented_v2.3.1_bln_hpcalls.zip has a fix in it.
Enjoy.
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I believe the appropriate thread for the kernel fix is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893880
gothpunk4christ said:
I believe the appropriate thread for the kernel fix is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893880
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I can confirm that this kernel does fix the call audio issue. Everything gets routed through the headphones, which is a nice sigh of relief. Thanks for all of your input everyone!
EDIT: I am pretty sure cognition 3.04 has this functionality built in to it.
Luken10 said:
I can confirm that this kernel does fix the call audio issue. Everything gets routed through the headphones, which is a nice sigh of relief. Thanks for all of your input everyone!
EDIT: I am pretty sure cognition 3.04 has this functionality built in to it.
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As does D1ll1gaf's newer stuff.
Let me tell you about my quest regarding this subject:
I first tried using a Motorokr t505 bluetooth device that featured a FM transmitter, but the audio quality was absolutely horrible thru the car radio (too much static regardless which station you tried), not to mention the clumsy way you had to switch back and forth from phone mode to music player via the FM transmitter, coupled with the fact the stupid device was always giving you a new FM station to tune into - it just simply was way too much of a hassle plus more of a safety hazard trying to get the motorokr device to work and in the correct mode while driving. There had to be a better, more simply way to enjoy the feature of using your cell phone for conversations thru your car radio.
I've been using a cheap $15 FM transmitter (http://www.amazon.com/Coby-CA-745-W...F6G0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1298180340&sr=8-1) I got a while back from Amazon and the mp3 music quality from my Samsung Captivate was great thru to my car stereo - I mean no static what-so-ever. The problem was, I couldn't use the phone thru the care stereo. So I rooted my phone, and now a whole new world opened up.
I up my Firmware to 2.2.1 (froyo) via superoneclick, change to a custom ROM ParagonRCS (see http://alchemistar.blogspot.com/2010/11/samsung-captivate-custom-rom-list-1110.html ), and I took advantage of the speedmod kernal (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893880 ).
Now my Samsung Captivate, when connected to my cheap FM transmitter, can send and receive calls thru my car stereo. I also use a free app called ChoiceDialer. So now all I have to do is invoke ChoiceDialer (the only time I have to touch the phone while driving), say who I want to call, and voila - my call goes thru the car radio. Also, when my mp3 music is playing thru the radio via my Captivate, and a call comes in (which I have it setup on my phone to auto answer after 2 seconds), the music pauses and I just start talking - excellent!!!
The only slightly down side is when I'm NOT listening to my mp3 player and thus tuned into another FM station, when a call does comes in, I have to select on my stereo the pre-set button that's set to the station my FM transmitter is set to, but not a big deal - I certainly can live with that!
Sorry for the long-winded response, but you don't know (or maybe you do) how frustrating it was trying to get information on this subject. I thought bluetooth was the answer, but quite frankly, my 1st and only experince with bluetooth sucked.
The end!
Short version: Having a problem with I897 using the stock earbuds where I can hear fine but the mic and pause button are not working.
Details: I have two I897's and two stock earbuds (w/ mic and pause button). One I897 is rooted with stock ROM and some AT&T bloatware removed and both earbuds have GOOD audio but NO mic or pause function. The other I897 is pure stock and both earbuds work fine.
On the "faulty" I897, I have restored to factory default (using SGS tools). Prior to reloading the data (via Titanium Backup) the earbuds have the SAME problem.
My gut says the phone doesn't have a hardware problem. I am not sure what software settings would cause this. Perhaps one of the bloatware prog's that I axed controlled that??
Any useful tips, pointers, or advice are GREATLY appreciated.
DaveCT
UPDATE: I did the Odin 1-click with no change. I also upgraded to 2.2 thinking that may restore/repair something. No joy. Maybe it IS a hardware issue.
Perhaps I should utilize that expensive "insurance" plan bought with the phone.
I'd still like to hear from anyone with advice or suggestions.
Thanks,
DaveCT
If indeed it is an issue with the phone itself, call at&t warranty department and get a replacement. No charge unless you want expedited shipping and they will sometimes waive that as well.
Worked with AT&T on the phone and they had me do a "Master reset" (is that the same as the SGS Tools reset?). Same problem. Luckily I had a local warranty location and got a new phone today. No more problems and kept the same headset.
Thanks for input.
DaveCT
Another update:
Not 100% convinced the wired mic and pause button just STOPPED working, I decided to try an experiment.
With my replacement phone, I used paid Titanium Backup to erase bloatware 1 by 1, checking the wired mic and pause button after deleting each app. I had no problem until the default mms / messaging / com.android.messaging app. I had already installed Handcent and considered it better than the default. Upon deleting the default app, the exact same problem occurred: no wired mic or pause button.
Not realizing TB doesn't backup system apps, I couldn't restore the default messaging app. I searched high and low for a copy of the original file and couldn't find it. Finally, after a TB backup, I uninstalled Handcent, reinstalled it and the problem is cured.
That begs the question: If that was my problem all along, why didn't any of the reset / "Master Reset" / Odin resets cure it?
Hopefully anyone with problems like this will benefit from my trial & error.
Regards,
DaveCT
You probably know this, but the stock ear buds don't have a microphone. Not sure if a seemingly inoperable microphone is part of your issue, but your title says "mic" so I thought I'd throw this out there.
mobius911 said:
You probably know this, but the stock ear buds don't have a microphone. Not sure if a seemingly inoperable microphone is part of your issue, but your title says "mic" so I thought I'd throw this out there.
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I don't have a make or model other than they are "SAMSUNG" branded but mine definitely has a mic. The little box that holds the pause button doubles as the mic. I have used voice recorder app to verify this.
Thanks,
DaveCT
Interesting. The headset that came packaged with my new Captivate is stereo only, with a pause/play toggle.
If these are different (and I'm sure Samsung makes many), that may account for your issues.
One other thought- when you get or make a call with the headset, you hear sound through the headset, but the microphone on the phone itself is broadcasting your voice. Are you positive that in your test your voice went through the microphone on the headset and not the microphone on the phone?
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Interesting. The headset that came packaged with my new Captivate is stereo only, with a pause/play toggle.
If these are different (and I'm sure Samsung makes many), that may account for your issues.
One other thought- when you get or make a call with the headset, you hear sound through the headset, but the microphone on the phone itself is broadcasting your voice. Are you positive that in your test your voice went through the microphone on the headset and not the microphone on the phone?
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Yes... mine definitely had a mic as well. Had it in my mouth a few times while recording :x