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I just bought my nookColor yesterday and loving it so far. That said, I'd definitely prefer to have the Android marketplace on it and have more games, utilities, etc.
So I was going to root it later today, once I pick up a microSD card, but then I watched one of the 'I rooted my Nook' videos on youtube and the guy in the video mentioned that Barnes & Noble will be coming out with an update to FroYo in March.
So...should I wait to root? I'm assuming that BN's update will likely interfere or delete the root. I'm okay with having to re-root but wanted to see what people's thoughts were regarding the possibility of BN being jerks and if their update can sense a root and brick the Nook or cause problems?
I rooted my Nook and that's basically all I use it for now... The only reason to go to stock is to have the ability to use "read-to-me" books. You can't go wrong! But I can't give you advice on how the rooting will affect updates. Worst case scenario will be that you have to re-root.
Hope that helps; I'm a newbie too but haven't been disappointed yet!
I always thought there are ways to unroot and go back stock.
Check it out in development forum.
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Personally I bought my NC specifically TO root it. Got it about a month ago and within an hour of purchase it was rooted and I never looked back.
I'm using just a basic root with stock eclair. Works for me just great. I run an overclocked kernel and launcher pro as my default launcher. Loving this thing!
Nookie froyo off of an SD card is good too and something you can setupt dual boot easily using guides in the dev forum.
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Or just burn an android to SD card. And run totally base on it,
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vista1984 said:
Or just burn an android to SD card. And run totally base on it,
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Can you please point us to the right thread? I've gone on there and there are a few options to choose from. Which one would give me Froyo and is the simplest to do?
TIA
try the customized froyo 0.68 for SD card
I am not using PC, so sorry I am not be more detail
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I would start slow. just rooting opens up a lot of options with market/google apps and overclocking that should keep you busy while you read up on the other options. I don't like running firmware from the sd card but thats just me. you can also dual boot from internal memory which doesn't wipe your stock rom either.
what ever you do you can always go back to bone stock easily so don't worry about that.
Root it. I got mine 2 weeks ago... I'm not a software guy, I don't know any programming languages, and I've never rooted anything before (Nexus One is still plain vanilla) I tried Nookie Froyo and Honeycomb off of the SD card, but they weren't really all that functional. Neat, yes, but not much more than a novelty.
I went the AutoNooter route 2 days ago, and things are looking good. Working Youtube, Gmail, and other apps.
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Root it. I got mine 2 weeks ago... I'm not a software guy, I don't know any programming languages, and I've never rooted anything before (Nexus One is still plain vanilla) I tried Nookie Froyo and Honeycomb off of the SD card, but they weren't really all that functional. Neat, yes, but not much more than a novelty.
I went the AutoNooter route 2 days ago, and things are looking good. Working Youtube, Gmail, and other apps.
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What was not functional about them? Also what is the downside of loading off of the SD card as opposed to internal memory, I mean other than having to purchase a large SD card I suppose?
I'm a complete 0 when it comes to Android.
Bought mine this morning, did the Nookie Froyo on the sdcard to run android, and it works wonderful! I bought it specifically to root. 249 for an android tablet? Why not!
vlucchetti said:
Bought mine this morning, did the Nookie Froyo on the sdcard to run android, and it works wonderful! I bought it specifically to root. 249 for an android tablet? Why not!
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Why Froyo and not Gingerbread?
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Why Froyo and not Gingerbread?
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Got to have something to do on Sunday!
What runs smoother? Froyo on SD or AutoNooter?
I'm buying a Nook today and going to root it and make it an Android tablet but there's sooooo many threads out there about this (and being updated every second), so I just wanted to know the basic - which is faster?
I don't like a choppy, sluggish OS...
Root it now. It is not much of a big deal anyway. You can return to stock in minutes if you like. I don't think that we have to wait for something better from B & N, even if they update to 2.2 (i don't think they would...). They don't want to sell a tablet but an e-reader with some extra capability( and they did it well), you can read your books, surf the net, listen to music, play videos.
They already announced bandmaster will release a version of honeycomb in the future.
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Thought there might be some folks over here that would be interested in this very noob-oriented write-up:
http://www.androidtablets.net/forum...color-now-what-aka-complete-idiots-guide.html
Especially since we should have a slew of new users heading our way after 11,000+ NC's were sold thanks to the eBay coupon.
+1 on this type of thread. The development section of this forum has my head spinning.
Most people will start out with auto nooter. Then install and choose from a a few different launchers. Then maybe a new kernel. Then move up to a Froyo build. And eventually, Honeycomb. But the definite path to do things isn't very strait forward. I've been installing ROM's on my OG Droid since the Sholes days but I'm finding this NC stuff muddy at best.
great write up OP. Wish I had this last night when I started messing with mine. I figured everything out through searching but did not make a backup. I have already tested out the dual boot roms, waiting on the C6 8gb card to get here to start playing with honeycomb.
Excellent - thanks !
Highly Recommended !
Wow, thanks mate! That's a fantastic writeup. It will save alot of people a lot of headaches and get them (including myself) up and going.
Sticky please, this is awesome for noobs/new to nook. Wish I had seen this yesterday.
I vote for sticky !
sticky please
my first post. (i'm one of the $199 ebay lot)
This helped alot. i just wish i read this fully before autonooting.
i have no backups of my stock nook. I just assumed that i could get the flashable rom to go back to stock on xda
anyways i vote for sticky
Nice. I'm a complete noobie to the Nooks - just bought mine yesterday and did a basic root. Love it so far. Can't wait for some stable HC builds come out.
@faceman66,
Thanks so much. I did not root nor did I do anything to the Nook Color since I am not sure about the tablet nor the e-reader. I got an Ipad for Xmas but returned it because it was kind of heavy and big and I want to do some spreadsheet work which requires either Excel or OpenOffice among other things.
Your tutorial about creating a bootable of the original ROM on a mSD was a great idea and is a must do item.
I created a mSD 8GB with Froyo and run the Nook off the mSD, so nothing on the Nook was impacted. so I thought, but I could be wrong.
Could you point out where I can find some help in the navigation of the Froyo version of android. There was no close button of the browser tabs, no forward nor backward buttons. There was some help file on the softkeys but no clear navigation of the file system.
I do not have an android phone so I am completely unfamiliar with android. I do want to learn android.
Faceman, thanks for taking the time to write such a comprehensive how-to! This will be incredibly valuable for many. Nice sense of humor too, btw.
I look forward to reading your "Barely smarter than idiot's guide to the CyanogenMod"
Hmmm. I did everything the article stated as far as the SoftKeys, but its not working like it said. Doesn't come up when I hit the physical home button nor does it have the volume buttons etc. Can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.
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Hmmm. I did everything the article stated as far as the SoftKeys, but its not working like it said. Doesn't come up when I hit the physical home button nor does it have the volume buttons etc. Can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.
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Download Home Switcher from the market. Set SoftKeys as the default launcher.
Voila!
defiant sumo said:
my first post. (i'm one of the $199 ebay lot)
This helped alot. i just wish i read this fully before autonooting.
i have no backups of my stock nook. I just assumed that i could get the flashable rom to go back to stock on xda
anyways i vote for sticky
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You probably can. But i guess making an initial sd card back up is the easiest and handy to have around.
very thorough and complete. thanks!
husky55 said:
@faceman66,
Thanks so much. I did not root nor did I do anything to the Nook Color since I am not sure about the tablet nor the e-reader. I got an Ipad for Xmas but returned it because it was kind of heavy and big and I want to do some spreadsheet work which requires either Excel or OpenOffice among other things.
Your tutorial about creating a bootable of the original ROM on a mSD was a great idea and is a must do item.
I created a mSD 8GB with Froyo and run the Nook off the mSD, so nothing on the Nook was impacted. so I thought, but I could be wrong.
Could you point out where I can find some help in the navigation of the Froyo version of android. There was no close button of the browser tabs, no forward nor backward buttons. There was some help file on the softkeys but no clear navigation of the file system.
I do not have an android phone so I am completely unfamiliar with android. I do want to learn android.
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You can push the files from this theme using ADB and it will give you back and menu softkeys on the status bar. However it will break your stock browser.
ADB push instructions
defiant sumo said:
my first post. (i'm one of the $199 ebay lot)
This helped alot. i just wish i read this fully before autonooting.
i have no backups of my stock nook. I just assumed that i could get the flashable rom to go back to stock on xda
anyways i vote for sticky
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You're my target audience, thank you. Yes you can get a flashable Stock rom, it will put you at the start of the OOBE, which I found to be a hassle always having to "register" my NC when I wanted to start over. Which I did a lot since I am definitely a tinker-er. My suggestion just makes it quicker to start over - most folks won't use it at all.
husky55 said:
@faceman66,
Thanks so much. I did not root nor did I do anything to the Nook Color since I am not sure about the tablet nor the e-reader. I got an Ipad for Xmas but returned it because it was kind of heavy and big and I want to do some spreadsheet work which requires either Excel or OpenOffice among other things.
Your tutorial about creating a bootable of the original ROM on a mSD was a great idea and is a must do item.
I created a mSD 8GB with Froyo and run the Nook off the mSD, so nothing on the Nook was impacted. so I thought, but I could be wrong.
Could you point out where I can find some help in the navigation of the Froyo version of android. There was no close button of the browser tabs, no forward nor backward buttons. There was some help file on the softkeys but no clear navigation of the file system.
I do not have an android phone so I am completely unfamiliar with android. I do want to learn android.
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A couple of things, once you root (if you do) there is a version of QuickOffice that someone ported from the Adam device which is awesome on the NC. Works almost like OpenOffice on the pc.
Running any rom from SD does not affect your internal eMMC (the internal system) but please pay attention to each SD Roms warnings - there are some actions you can do that WILL affect the internal. Such as formatting an SD from a rom running on an SD actually formats the /boot area of the internal giving you a "Aw crap, my nook won't boot past a black screen" issue which is fixable.
Since the NC lacks physical buttons, a program such as Softkeys or ButtonSavior (a major coke/pepsi flame war argument) are needed to add those buttons virtually. Many write-ups and threads available, just search them out.
KDOG2020 said:
Hmmm. I did everything the article stated as far as the SoftKeys, but its not working like it said. Doesn't come up when I hit the physical home button nor does it have the volume buttons etc. Can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.
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Just to make sure, I think my softkeys might have updated from the one included with autonooter, but I am not sure. My version is 3.0.8, and that could be the cause of discrepancy. If someone can confirm, please let me know. I can tell you the key to sk working the way we want is to have Softkeys set as your 'default' launcher, then configure softkeys to be "one press softkeys, two press launcher" for the physical button.
bachviet said:
You can push the files from this theme using ADB and it will give you back and menu softkeys on the status bar. However it will break your stock browser.
ADB push instructions
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While ADB may be over some folks head, it is VERY worthwhile to try to learn to use it. At least work on getting it installed and being able to successfully have it list you device - then it's always there as an option. But most things can be accomplished without it.
+1 for a sticky.
This guide is great for some of the 100k new Nook owners over the coming week.
Thanks a lot faceman!
Thanks, Guide was great.
liqn7 said:
+1 for a sticky.
This guide is great for some of the 100k new Nook owners over the coming week.
Thanks a lot faceman!
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Grover12 said:
Thanks, Guide was great.
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Thanks for the feedback. Any suggestions or critiques, I am planning to do an overhaul and update later today. All suggestions are welcome.
OK, I am going to be getting a couple NCs for the wife and I. So I have been doing a lot of reading and want to make sure I have a handle on evrtything. I have decided that CM7 is the way to go. If I am understanding correctly I basically create a CM7 image on an SD Card (cheap Sandisk seems to work best???) and then I can run it from the SD card without installing it on the internal memory of the NC. That way I can pull the SD card, reboot and have a stock NC. Is that right? Will the performance suffer from running it from the SD card? Are there benefits to installing on the internal memory? Also, if I do install it to the internal memory, how do you use it as a normal NC? Do you just get the Android Nook app? How does that compare to the actual Nook software? Do you lose any functionality? My wife will use hers primarily as an e reader whereas mine will be a tablet first. Does anyone have experience using different browsers like Skyfire and Opera? Those are what I use a lot on my phone. I have seen the name Dolphin HDused alot, but I don't know anything about it. I am sorry for all the questions and if my terminology is not 100% accurate. I am, as the welcome video says; a noob.
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Nard Dog said:
OK, I am going to be getting a couple NCs for the wife and I. So I have been doing a lot of reading and want to make sure I have a handle on evrtything. I have decided that CM7 is the way to go.
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The only stupid question is the one unasked.
Nard Dog said:
If I am understanding correctly I basically create a CM7 image on an SD Card (cheap Sandisk seems to work best???) and then I can run it from the SD card without installing it on the internal memory of the NC. That way I can pull the SD card, reboot and have a stock NC. Is that right?
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That is correct; with one exception. CM7 will mount the "Media" partition, and changes there will be reflected on the stock OS (this partition just stores your files, pictures, music, etc; nothing related to the system).
Nard Dog said:
Will the performance suffer from running it from the SD card? Are there benefits to installing on the internal memory?
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Yes, performance will suffer. I used to run from SD card, until i finally gave up and tried internal. Internal is much faster, and of course makes it easier to use you SD card for pure storage.
Nard Dog said:
Also, if I do install it to the internal memory, how do you use it as a normal NC? Do you just get the Android Nook app?
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Normal NC? You mean as just an eReader? Yes, you would just use the market version of the nook app.
Nard Dog said:
How does that compare to the actual Nook software? Do you lose any functionality?
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From what i have seen, you will lose the "Read to me" functionality, and the look and feel of the market version is different of that of the stock version. But, by using CM7 (or rooting stock), you can gain access to Kindle and Google books, which kind of makes up for it.
Nard Dog said:
My wife will use hers primarily as an e reader whereas mine will be a tablet first.
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I would say for you, CM7 internal would be good (remember, you can always put the stock OS back on if you change your mind), and the stock OS best for you wife.
Nard Dog said:
Does anyone have experience using different browsers like Skyfire and Opera? Those are what I use a lot on my phone. I have seen the name Dolphin HDused alot, but I don't know anything about it.
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Opera is by far the best browser; it is the only browser with renders web pages with the GPU; this is what allows smooth scrolling and page views (like the iPad has). Dolphin is nothing more than a skin of the stock browser, and isn't worth worrying about.
Nard Dog said:
I am sorry for all the questions and if my terminology is not 100% accurate. I am, as the welcome video says; a noob.
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Remember, we are ALL "noobs" at one point in our life. Being willing to ask and learn is how you stop being one.
Nard Dog said:
Also, if I do install it to the internal memory, how do you use it as a normal NC? Do you just get the Android Nook app? How does that compare to the actual Nook software? Do you lose any functionality? My wife will use hers primarily as an e reader whereas mine will be a tablet first.
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The Android Nook app loses:
* Read To Me
* Shelves
* A quick shortcut to the current book you're reading
It gains a couple of features: a fancy page-turn animation, and a true black & white "night" mode. (The stock reader's night mode is more of an off-white on dark gray, if I remember right.)
If your wife has a lot of nook books, she may really miss the shelves feature. Without it all books are listed on one page, ordered by Title, Author or Most Recent. That's most recently purchased, not most recently read.
With no shortcut, every time you return to the app you have to scroll through all the books you have downloaded to find the one you're currently reading. That could be annoying if you've got a few dozen or more loaded.
I get around both problems by using a third-party reader. But to use it, I have to strip the DRM from the books I own, which is at best a gray area legally.
Most people who read a lot will probably get more out of a stock nook, or better still, a nootered nook. If it's nootered (rooted), you get all the features of the stock reader, as well as the ability to download any number of other applications including Kindle and Overdrive (the library lending app.)
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I would say for you, CM7 internal would be good (remember, you can always put the stock OS back on if you change your mind), and the stock OS best for you wife.
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Thank you very much for the input. Your answers have highlighted the fact that I need to do a lot more research. I am not even sure what the NC can do out of the box. While the wifey will use it primarily as a reader, she also wants to be able to play games and download apps. Can this still be done on the stock OS? Can you install a different browser (opera) on the stock OS? I've seen the term "rooted stock" but haven't read up on it much since I figured I'd just have to root them to do what we both want. I'm guessing "rooted stock" is somewhere between being rooted and keeping the stock OS. Would this allow using the native reader intetface while still allowing access to apps via the Android market? If I can get it so she has a nice browser, can play games (Angry Birds, etc) and keep the native reader (which she really likes) that would be perfect. BTW, before anyone starts yelling "USE THE SEARCH NOON" like they do on some forums I have visited, I know these answers are probably all on this forum somewhere and I am continuing to research on my own. I have been and will be reading a ton of old posts, etc. But, it is also helpful to have one thread to list all of the questions that pop into my head.
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I was new to Android a couple months ago and hesitant to root so I decided to put CM7 on an sdcard. I bought a cheap card and the thing worked but it was agonizingly slow. I bought a Sandisk 8GB class 4 and it works GREAT - very fast. I have never overclocked (haven't gotten the nerve for that yet) and it is very speedy for my needs. I later rooted stock which is what I recommend for your wife. You put a launcher on (I like zeam) and then you have your B&N shelves and access to the Android market as well. BTW, you can also get the Amazon Appstore and check it out daily because they put up a free app every day - very cool.
Good luck with your decision. I love my Nook!
Cool, so it looks like it'll be CM7 for me and nootered for her.
One more question since I have your attention. Is there a way to tether the NC to my Droid X and connect to the internet? My Droid X is totally stock and I have no desire to root it or mod it in any way. I have used PDAnet to tether to my laptop, so I'm looking for something similar to that.
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I can tether my Win Mobile phone (getting an Android phone as soon as my contract runs out!) to my NC. My phone creates an ad hoc connection and I had to make a small change on the Nook to get it to work. I'm pretty sure you will have no problem. Just search and you will find the details specific to your phone.
The only (wireless) tethering you can do WITHOUT rooting is the paid Verizon service. No other wireless rooting will work (all need superuser). I gotta ask though - any reason you don't want to root the X? Its not really anything different from rooting your nook..
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I gotta ask though - any reason you don't want to root the X? Its not really anything different from rooting your nook..
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I guess it's really just fear. If I brick my phone, I am royally screwed. If I brick the Nook, it would suck, but it's more of a toy anyway. I know it's probably very safe and easy, but I just keep thinking of the horror stories I read when I thought about rooting my Q9m back in the day. That said it is very likely that once I root the Nook, I will end up rooting my phone. Baby steps
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i just got this tablet its running android 2.3 and the kernel version is 2.6.35.7-tcc [email protected] #1 the build number is 20111231.083150
i am used to flashing roms with android for quite sometime and i did hope when getting this tablet there may be some options after getting it to be able to get a kernel to make it run faster...
or maybe any type of custom rom that i can use
i don't expect a huge response but it would be nice if anyone can point me in a direction that may help max this device out...
http://www.erisin.com/erisin-es778a-hd-car-radio-2-color-led-button-android-23-pad_p278.html
Anything? Anyone?
Bump since I'm looking at the 777A. I can find information about the 666, but that's only running 2.1 and I never read into the 42 pages information enough to see if there were ROM's or Kernels since I stopped reading when I found out I can at least Z4Root.
i did read in some forums that there is a way to put cyanogenmod on it
Bump as I'm setting up mine now
Let us know how everything goes? I'm looking to try out the Erisin ES778A.
I'm planning on installing the stereo tomorrow (technically later today), so I'll keep you posted. I've been using the pad in the meantime, typical Android fashion and treating it like my phone...installed 90% of the same apps, launcher, etc. I've found hotspot widgets for my phone, so I stay tethered while at work, then WiFi when I'm at home. I wish the screen was a bit brighter, but it's no better or worse so far than the AVIC F90BT I was using before. I've been spoiled w/ AMOLED on my phone, so seeing the same screen emulated on the pad shows the differences in color...and the differences between touchscreen styles.
I've yet to figure out how to root the unit since Z4Root doesn't do temporary or permanent, so I haven't gotten into things like seeing if I can overclock the CPU, increase the SD card reading speed, etc. So far the only real things I've noticed that are odd about the pad is that it has 3 seperate locations for memory/storage, ie NAND, SD (4GB card included) and something else. I don't know if the seperate NAND or whatever is what stores the WinCE portion of the stereo, but once I find/make a backup of the stock software (just in case I brick the thing playing w/ it), I haven't explored into what I can delete to increase it's efficiency. There are apps I will never use on it, so it'd be nice to delete things I don't need and customize it as I have my phone to exactly what I want. I've noticed I can't designate a default browser (I use browser chooser first, then I run stock, Opera and Skyfire) and once in a blue moon it acts as if it can't read the card or if it's not there, but reboot/power-cycling the device fixes it. I have an extra 16GB card I'm going to throw into the unit anyways, so we'll see if that changes that little hiccup.
From what I've read and the emailing w/ the seller of the Erisin deck, the 777 is for the US market and 778 is for the EU market...being the difference in the TV tuner. EU has digital for the DVT-B, so they can tune stuff if, and while we've recently made the switch from analog to digital finally, the 777 as it is won't pick up digital TV like it would in a newer style TV w/ a built-in digital tuner for free HDTV channels. Myself and a co-worker have been looking into a powered converter (he uses one in his house, hooked up to a non-HDTV) that will work with the stereo that won't have a seperate remote for changing channels, but it's not critical to me since I plan on streaming everything anyways....hence difference browsers for different sites.
I thought the 778 had Bluetooth built into the Pad where the 777 has it in the main unit only? That's the only reason I wanted the 778 over the 777.
i ordered the 778a and the main unit has the bluetooth not the tablet... kinda gay
How much did you pay for it and how long did it take to arrive?
i paid $380 or so and it took around 3 days for it to come
Hey I just purchased the ES7835a and I'm looking for the original firmware to restore my tablet. Would you happen to still have it lying around?
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Thread bump as I installed a newer version, the ES7035A, into my truck yesterday. The ES777A was OK, but after a few months it had an internal grounding error, so it'd pop the subwoofer on shutdown and power up. After arguing with Erisin about their warranty, I paid for return shipping back to them, paid the difference to upgrade to the ES7035A (thinner pad, Bluetooth in the tablet and deck) and then got PayPal involved after I received yet another one that was broken (a few buttons atop the tablet had failed, ends up the swtich soldered to the board broke off, so I soldered it back on myself) and they refunded my shipping and upgrade charges.
Now that I've got it installed, I'm looking at options for rooting it, seeing about maybe even upgrading to Android 4.x that the newer Erisin versions have, etc. Honestly, I'd LOVE if I could just send the tablet to a DEV here, have you back it up and everything, then custom bake a ROM, kernel, etc for myself and others to improve upon the very slow Android 2.2 that's on the tablet currently. I've read a thread about rooting TC8803 tablets, and supposedly it'll work on my tablet, but at the same time I worry about missing some step, not knowing an acronym or term someone mentioned and bricking the thing. I've baked my own ROM's in 7ZIP in the past, but if I screw this tablet up, I've got virtually NO support after the fact, so I'm not ready to take the risk just yet.
Anyone will to help?
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Ideas4ya said:
Hey I just purchased the ES7835a and I'm looking for the original firmware to restore my tablet. Would you happen to still have it lying around?
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Not sure if you're still subscribed to this thread, but when I had an issue with my ES777A, they gave me a website link that I could download the firmware. What I'd really like to do is get a link from them for downloading their 4.x firmware and installing it on my current ES7035A since it has the same specs as the newer stereos they have which are running 4.x.
My first ever stereo I bought from these guys was an ES777A, which had crashing problems. They gave me a link to download the software from, but I see a "related column" with many other "Update.zip" links, so I'm curious is there is a way to verify which is which in regards to getting my hands on the Android 4.x firmware and if it's safe to install it on my ES7035A.
http://www.ulozto.net/13150056/update-zip
After going through 3 representatives using their online chat, I finally got someone to give me the firmware for the ES7835A that runs Android 4.x. Now I'm curious how I can install this onto my ES7035A which runs Android 2.3.5. I'm trying to get them to send me the link for the ES7035A as well so that maybe someone who knows more than I can compare the two firmwares since the Erisin person I'm talking to insists I can't install it.
Found these random links on GPS forums http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=143126&whichpage=1 about other Erisin units -
http://www.erisin.com/fillib/
http://speedy.sh/swHwY/ERISIN-EU2011.rar
http://www.ulozto.net/10685361/erisin-usa-part1-rar
http://www.ulozto.net/10694309/erisin-usa-part2-rar
ES777A
The firmware file : http://www.ulozto.net/13150056/update-zip - you will not his website has a bunch of other update.zip files, so maybe these are for other Erisin Android products...is there a way to tell?
ES7035A
ES7835A
The firmware file : https://www.dropbox.com/s/62l29sccgf79sqm/crane_C12R1-ota-20131128.zip
The instruction file : https://www.dropbox.com/s/hzyus7lq8rxeu97/The updated PAD upgrade method 131205.doc
Greetings,
I recently just purchased some Nook HD+ tablets and am new to the Android platform. I have yet to open the Nooks. I have spent the past two nights reading here about how to root, sideload, and other similar topics. I have gathered a small bit of understanding from the readings in my free time but I am now ready to get serious and would like a few questions answered before I begin, just to help me grasp it all completely. Once, I have these few basic questions out of the way, then I'll really get into deciding on a route to take and see whats best for me. I understand some would rather say "read this" and just redirect me but if you post, for the sake of discussion please entertain my questions.
1) Does the B&N stock android software offer any advantages, even if only one, (specific app, or feature) over custom android software? Out the box is it like stock Android 4.0.3 with B&N overlay similar to *Sense or is it B&N software through and through like Fire OS?
2) I have seen two "groups" N2A and another which I forget at the moment, that offer pre-made image files for download or MicroSD cards for purchase. Are these all the same files no matter where they come from or are they unique? Are all variations of CyanogenMod or are they from the ground up different? What is the significance of using one over the other?
3) Lastly, is there a very plain (vanilla) stock Android 4.4.2 for Nook HD+ that would be like virtually getting it from Google themselves? I'm talking from bootscreen to features and functions. Or all roms will have some sort of custom "branding" in them?
Thank you for helping me get started. I am sure I'll have more questions as this thread develops. Again, I appreciate any kindness offered.
1. There are only a couple of advantages of the stock OS besides being very stable. You have access to the B&N store apps if you made prior purchases on other devices. But the biggest advantage for some users is the reader app. It is better and smoother than the Nook reader app for Android. Plus it will read children's interactive books and Nook for Android app will not. The OS is pretty much Android with a B&N interface overlaid and replacing Google's. I don't know how to compare to Sense or FireOS since I have never seen either. But some things are totally different than Google, for instance in settings there is no Enable Unknown Sources setting.
2. The pre-made images are exactly the same as you get here. The only differences are that they do the work for you and furnish the SD cards.
3. There are several ROMs here that tweak the interface, but most are just variations of CM. You will have to research them yourself.
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So far so good...
Thanks...
Is there anyway to get the updated 4.4.2 rom with the B&N overlay so that you get the B&N store or thats not possible? Also similar question for the Reader app itself? Has it been transported or is development in process on transporting it. Or is that not going to happen either.
I have no prior purchases from B&N and don't foresee me buying any in the future as I can convert my own files from purchases elsewhere. So I'm leaning toward updating. I see different variations of the updated rom. Is there a way to install the rom direct to the device, therefore leaving the MicroSD card slot free to use as storage? Or is that not recommended because it erases the Stock OS. Is running the OS directly from the device or from the MicroSD card more stable? Just general knowledge about CPUs and data transfers, I would imagine running the OS from the MicroSD card drains the battery a bit more and would exhibit some lag in comparison to running directly from the device internally, or is this not a problem?
ecsjr said:
Thanks...
Is there anyway to get the updated 4.4.2 rom with the B&N overlay so that you get the B&N store or thats not possible? Also similar question for the Reader app itself? Has it been transported or is development in process on transporting it. Or is that not going to happen either.
I have no prior purchases from B&N and don't foresee me buying any in the future as I can convert my own files from purchases elsewhere. So I'm leaning toward updating. I see different variations of the updated rom. Is there a way to install the rom direct to the device, therefore leaving the MicroSD card slot free to use as storage? Or is that not recommended because it erases the Stock OS. Is running the OS directly from the device or from the MicroSD card more stable? Just general knowledge about CPUs and data transfers, I would imagine running the OS from the MicroSD card drains the battery a bit more and would exhibit some lag in comparison to running directly from the device internally, or is this not a problem?
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For the first two questions, no and no.
Yes if you look at the dummies guide linked in my signature there are directions there for installing to internal memory. But even if you install to SD it is pretty stable and the part of the SD not used for the operating system is available for storage. There is really no difference on battery or lag. And your warranty is intact. Just pop out the card and stock is not affected. That said, I use CM10.1.3 on internal memory and love it.
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Almost done...
If I do install to internal memory, I lose my warranty? Is there a way to re-install B&N stock OS if I need my warranty later?
When choosing to run from the MicroSD can you see the files that are on the internal Nook memory or is it non-existent?
Also, Is it still relevant to use older slower MicroSD cards, or has the process improved over time and cured this? I happen to have a 32GB Sandisk Extreme laying around and want to know if It's necessary to go out and buy a new Sandisk 32GB Class 4. I've found some for about $18 from reputable retailers so not a problem but I do have the 32GB Extreme laying here lol.
Backing up to a question before... Do all the roms have a custom boot screen and "branding" or is there one available that would be vanilla android 4.4.2?
ecsjr said:
If I do install to internal memory, I lose my warranty? Is there a way to re-install B&N stock OS if I need my warranty later?
When choosing to run from the MicroSD can you see the files that are on the internal Nook memory or is it non-existent?
Also, Is it still relevant to use older slower MicroSD cards, or has the process improved over time and cured this? I happen to have a 32GB Sandisk Extreme laying around and want to know if It's necessary to go out and buy a new Sandisk 32GB Class 4. I've found some for about $18 from reputable retailers so not a problem but I do have the 32GB Extreme laying here lol.
Backing up to a question before... Do all the roms have a custom boot screen and "branding" or is there one available that would be vanilla android 4.4.2?
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First questions. Yes and yes.
And I don't known what you mean by non-existent. All files can be seen with root file managers.
And yes old slower cards are still best. But you can try that extreme and see how it works.
And all replacement ROMs show the 'cyanoboot' logo on booting if that is what you mean (the Nook has a locked bootloader so 'nook' always shows too). No pure vanilla. And 4.4.2 is still too cutting edge in my view. Stick with 4.2 (CM10.1) or 4.3 (CM10.2) .
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I truly appreciate the chat...
Thanks,
When I get home today, I'm going to update the Nook HD+ using your guide in the signature. It all seems relatively straightforward. I'll comeback to post my conclusions and any further questions I may have. But thank you.
Charged up...
Ok so I'm charged up and power on the device, register it and get the Update notification:
I am on ver. 2.1.1, if I choose to update the stock OS to the latest version will that have any affect on me later deciding to update to CM?
ecsjr said:
Ok so I'm charged up and power on the device, register it and get the Update notification:
I am on ver. 2.1.1, if I choose to update the stock OS to the latest version will that have any affect on me later deciding to update to CM?
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No, as long as you registration it with B&N before you put CM on it, it does not matter what version you had on it. I don't believe it, but others have commented that it gets harder to boot from SD once you have put 2.2.0 on it.
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Got it..
Thanks.
Universal root...
In the Guide I see Universal Root Rev0 and Rev3 both sound similar to what I think I want to do, just don't know which to pick? I'm running B&N Stock and want to be able to install .apk from unknown sources leaving everything else pretty much untouched.
ecsjr said:
In the Guide I see Universal Root Rev0 and Rev3 both sound similar to what I think I want to do, just don't know which to pick? I'm running B&N Stock and want to be able to install .apk from unknown sources leaving everything else pretty much untouched.
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Rev0 is outdated and not even available anymore. But you don't need to root at all to just to enable unknown sources. Just flash the zip. Root is not necessary.
BTW, what guide are you talking about? The Dummies Guide does not mention Universal Root. Do you mean my HD/HD+ CWM thread?
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Update and some questions...lol
So I have CM 10.2.1-ovation running on internal Nook HD+ using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500. I noticed the Recovery menu is 6.0.2.8... Is is necessary to update this to the newer 6.0.3.6? What are the differences? Even if not, can you point me in the right direction, if not willing to explain how to get it updated?
Moving on...
I have my backup of B&N stock saved.
I used my Sandisk 32GB Extreme Plus microSDHC card and didn't encounter any errors to my knowledge lol.
I guess thats pretty much it, its done.
A few questions about the platform, apps, whats important vs not, etc...
1) I have apps spread out across the 4 or so blades. Coming from iOS platform, I usually ONLY use another blade if current one is full. Is there a reason why some apps are on first blade vs middle blade? Is there a reason why the media widget is on the desktop, etc? Am I free to remove these any way I want? What about the bottom dock/home buttons there are three I believe. The Gmail, Browser, and something else I forget, I think contacts. Can you touch on this area.
2) Certain apps like gmail, google+, Apollo, Voice dialer, whisper push all seem unnecessary to me as I do not use them or know what they are used for yet. Can you elaborate their usage. Can these be uninstalled, or removed in any way. I of course would like to keep the Google Play store.
3) The clock and date on the homescreen, is that a third-party widget or is that the Stock Android system? Is the customizable (font and size) without a third-party app or is it only like this?
4) I am looking for the ESPN SportsCenter app and noticed it's not compatible with my device. It says it's for Phones only. If I am able to find the .apk will Android allow for me to install on the Nook even though it's not a Phone it's a tablet?
ecsjr said:
So I have CM 10.2.1-ovation running on internal Nook HD+ using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500. I noticed the Recovery menu is 6.0.2.8... Is is necessary to update this to the newer 6.0.3.6? What are the differences? Even if not, can you point me in the right direction, if not willing to explain how to get it updated?
Moving on...
I have my backup of B&N stock saved.
I used my Sandisk 32GB Extreme Plus microSDHC card and didn't encounter any errors to my knowledge lol.
I guess thats pretty much it, its done.
A few questions about the platform, apps, whats important vs not, etc...
1) I have apps spread out across the 4 or so blades. Coming from iOS platform, I usually ONLY use another blade if current one is full. Is there a reason why some apps are on first blade vs middle blade? Is there a reason why the media widget is on the desktop, etc? Am I free to remove these any way I want? What about the bottom dock/home buttons there are three I believe. The Gmail, Browser, and something else I forget, I think contacts. Can you touch on this area.
2) Certain apps like gmail, google+, Apollo, Voice dialer, whisper push all seem unnecessary to me as I do not use them or know what they are used for yet. Can you elaborate their usage. Can these be uninstalled, or removed in any way. I of course would like to keep the Google Play store.
3) The clock and date on the homescreen, is that a third-party widget or is that the Stock Android system? Is the customizable (font and size) without a third-party app or is it only like this?
4) I am looking for the ESPN SportsCenter app and noticed it's not compatible with my device. It says it's for Phones only. If I am able to find the .apk will Android allow for me to install on the Nook even though it's not a Phone it's a tablet?
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You are jumping all over the place. Your previous question was for applying root to stock and enabling unknown sources. Now you have installed CM10.2.1.
No, you do not need to update that 6028.
And the rest of your questions are specific to CM10.2 now. You are best asking those questions in the CM10.2 thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389813
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Sorry about that...
leapinlar said:
You are jumping all over the place. Your previous question was for applying root to stock and enabling unknown sources. Now you have installed CM10.2.1.
No, you do not need to update that 6028.
And the rest of your questions are specific to CM10.2 now. You are best asking those questions in the CM10.2 thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389813
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I'm working on two separate tablets... I kept one stock and the other CM.
Back with more...
So far all is well on the Nook HD+ with CM 10.2.1... I appreciate your guide link and help.
Now with the Nook HD+ that is on Stock B&N. To enable Unknown Sources leaving the B&N stock, earlier you use the phrase "Flash the zip" is all I need to do. Can you explain a bit more what that means or any pointer is helpful. Thank you.
ecsjr said:
So far all is well on the Nook HD+ with CM 10.2.1... I appreciate your guide link and help.
Now with the Nook HD+ that is on Stock B&N. To enable Unknown Sources leaving the B&N stock, earlier you use the phrase "Flash the zip" is all I need to do. Can you explain a bit more what that means or any pointer is helpful. Thank you.
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Get the zip from my HD/HD+ CWM thread (item 3). Boot to CWM and install (flash) the zip just like you did the CM zip on the other device. It changes a hidden setting in stock to allow you to install applications from sources other than the Nook Store or Play Store.
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Update...
leapinlar said:
Get the zip from my HD/HD+ CWM thread (item 3). Boot to CWM and install (flash) the zip just like you did the CM zip on the other device. It changes a hidden setting in stock to allow you to install applications from sources other than the Nook Store or Play Store.
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Perfect thanks.
UPDATE: Using Root Explorer. Any recommendations of a better file manager, I like Root Explorer, just new to the platform so I don't really know what else is good? Also, what is the process for returning my now 4GB mSD to its full 32GB? Thank you for all the help.
ecsjr said:
Perfect thanks.
UPDATE: Using Root Explorer. Any recommendations of a better file manager, I like Root Explorer, just new to the platform so I don't really know what else is good? Also, what is the process for returning my now 4GB mSD to its full 32GB? Thank you for all the help.
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Root Explorer is the best.
And you should not have used a 32GB SD as your CWM SD. You should have used a relatively small 4-8Gb SD so you can keep it for future use. You WILL need it again. That said, you can return it to 32Gb by using the program SDFormatter free on the web.
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Switching cards
leapinlar said:
Root Explorer is the best.
And you should not have used a 32GB SD as your CWM SD. You should have used a relatively small 4-8Gb SD so you can keep it for future use. You WILL need it again. That said, you can return it to 32Gb by using the program SDFormatter free on the web.
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My first complete backup and wipe for the CM10.2.1 tablet isn't mine and I will no longer need that full CM10.2.1 setup. However I did use that card to flash the zip on the Stock B&N because I felt it was easier to follow your instructions that way... Now for future reference, I do have a small 2GB card I wanted to use following this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613 method under "1a" to make a small CWM to simply flash the Stock B&N in the future. Is this possible? Or does it always have to be 4GB?