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Android on JADE

Alright people, after some litle research, i have found out that Android currently boots on HTC Touch Cruise ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64LYnTxhj44 ). HTC Touch Cruise is using the same processor as the HTC Touch 3G, Qualcomm MSM7225. So is there a way we can port the version from Polaris to Jade ?
C'mon people, lets start a project, as i see many PDAs out there can now successfully boot Android, lets not leave out our wonderful Jade...
WE WANT ANDROID !

Unfortunately htc touch cruise (polaris) has the msm7200 processor like the kaiser. The newer one (iolite) has the msm7225.

anikolop said:
Unfortunately htc touch cruise (polaris) has the msm7200 processor like the kaiser. The newer one (iolite) has the msm7225.
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hhmmmm...i see, didnt realise that there was a previous version. But c'mon, no one knows how to port android to MSM7225 ?

HTC tattoo
I am also looking for ages for some android port to the MSM 7225. Now, finally, an android device similar to the Jade is coming out before october!!
And for all the people saying 320x240 is too small for android, well, the Tattoo seems to do fine with that..
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/htc-tattoo-aka-click-brings-android-sense-ui-to-all/
Now we just have to wait for someone porting that android ROM to Jade..
help?
EDIT
oh and here's already the HTC official site! http://www.htc.com/www/product/tattoo/specification.html

At least android for msm7225
now it seems almost sure that at some time we will have the opportunity to run android in our phones.

oooh I CANT WAIT !
Definitely count me in as a tester !

Yeah, it will run on 320x240. But as far as I know most apps are designed for higher resolutions. So it won't be really useful.

It seems that HTC is releasing a new device based on the same processor as our jade, with Android and 2.8 screen, HTC Tattoo. Maybe there is still a hope on seeing a port to Jade

Hello ,
Have You news of this possibility "Android for HTC Jade"?

I think our phone isn't popular enough for developers to work on a port for our phone, I can't find any signs that someone is working on a port. Let's hope this changes fast!

i really hope so too, cant wait to play around with android on it !

@StewieTux
hi
u really have a point here yes our phone isnt popular and for ur info
ppc geek does not have a forum for us and it has every other HTC phone old and new but not ours even after me asking so many time now i days i don't visit the site
so i really dought if well get android unless one of our great cooks decides to do some thing regarding the same
but count me in to test any ROM for our great jade i love this phone man
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I think our phone isn't popular enough for developers to work on a port for our phone, I can't find any signs that someone is working on a port. Let's hope this changes fast!
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Yeah I'm afraid we just have to wait till the release of the tattoo , I lost hope for a quicker solution...

if it can work on gene why not jade
hi
see below link android is working on gene(my last phone was a gene it has 200Mhz proc) which is a much less powerful phone than the jade so i dont see why not for us so dont lose hope maybe wer just waiting for a smart cook to put his time and do it for us
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496692

haree said:
hi
see below link android is working on gene(my last phone was a gene it has 200Mhz proc) which is a much less powerful phone than the jade so i dont see why not for us so dont lose hope maybe wer just waiting for a smart cook to put his time and do it for us
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496692
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The problem isn't the power of the phone, it's the type of the processor and the screen resolution. However there is still hope, Android 1.6 SDK is released and supports different screen resolutions! =>> http://developer.android.com/index.html

Hi,
I was browsing around and found a new HTC phone with Andriod 1.5 (yet to be launched). The phone is called HTC Tattoo. Refer to the following link:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_tattoo-2932.php
The hardware of this phone is almost similar to Jade ..... Same processor and screen resolution.
Look at the comparison below:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=2526&idPhone1=2932
If Andriod 1.5 is possible in that phone, I am sure it can be ported to Jade. I am just wondering about the few more hardware buttons and higher ROM.
StewieTux said:
The problem isn't the power of the phone, it's the type of the processor and the screen resolution. However there is still hope, Android 1.6 SDK is released and supports different screen resolutions! =>> http://developer.android.com/index.html
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Looking forward to test this and share my feeback
With pleasure, kindly count me on your testers list
[email protected]

hi
genes resolution is same as our jade and we have a better proc 2wice the speed is why i said if gene can run it so can our jade all we need is a cook willing to spend his time in creating one and yes im willing to test if any one makes a ROM for jade
StewieTux said:
The problem isn't the power of the phone, it's the type of the processor and the screen resolution. However there is still hope, Android 1.6 SDK is released and supports different screen resolutions! =>> http://developer.android.com/index.html
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haree said:
hi
genes resolution is same as our jade and we have a better proc 2wice the speed is why i said if gene can run it so can our jade all we need is a cook willing to spend his time in creating one and yes im willing to test if any one makes a ROM for jade
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We have an unsupported processor, msm7275 (or something like that) and that's different from the gene with has an already supported model.

hi
buddy ur breaking my heart i really did think their will be a time when we will get to use Android now if the info u give is right them our chances look very very bleek
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We have an unsupported processor, msm7275 (or something like that) and that's different from the gene with has an already supported model.
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WinMo 6.5

So, now 6.5 is officially released, when are we going to get a proper base 6.5 ROM for our Jades? Come on, there's got to be a genius out there.

I guess all the chefs are waiting for an official HTC 6.5 final ROM dump. I mean that's what i would do, if i were a chef.

Really excited about it.Hope something will come up soon.

When is HTC likely to release an official 6.5 rom for this device?

hi
to my knowledge not now we need to wait for one of ur cooks to use one of the released Roms and cook a good bug free one for us
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When is HTC likely to release an official 6.5 rom for this device?
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I asked HTC support a few weeks ago and they replied to me that they won't release a official 6.5 ROM for the Touch 3G. I guess they prefer to sell the Touch2 instead.

olly2009 said:
I asked HTC support a few weeks ago and they replied to me that they won't release a official 6.5 ROM for the Touch 3G. I guess they prefer to sell the Touch2 instead.
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Apparently, the Touch 2 will be quite cheap in SEAsia, somewhere between the Opal and Jade. This with increased memory but same processor and same camera as Jade.

yeah i looked at a touch2 ...however the battery is only 1000amh....compared to our Touch 3G's 1100amh

Asked in HTC
I too asked in HTC support.
They told it would take some time for them to release the upgrade for our wonderful jade.
They told to visit HTC site regularly to know about the release.
Waiting for the upgrade.

forall.sri said:
I too asked in HTC support.
They told it would take some time for them to release the upgrade for our wonderful jade.
They told to visit HTC site regularly to know about the release.
Waiting for the upgrade.
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Means that WinMo 6.5 will be officialy released for our Jade !?
OMG, can't believe it !

I very much doubt there will be an official 6.5 update. Look at it from HTC's point of view, there's just no financial reason to do it.

hi
u nailed it buddy im 100% with u but then we have great cooks so im sure well get a good clean bug free ROM soon
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I very much doubt there will be an official 6.5 update. Look at it from HTC's point of view, there's just no financial reason to do it.
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xtremez said:
yeah i looked at a touch2 ...however the battery is only 1000amh....compared to our Touch 3G's 1100amh
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It's hard to figure out HTC's marketing strategy. They introduce a newer version of a product with the same or sometimes inferior features. Take the Touch cruise 2, for instance. The older one had a better camera. The screen of the Opal is lowered and that makes it hard to reach the close button. As for the official upgrade, the word out is it will only be for the diamond 2 and touch pro 2. But when it comes to hotfixes, jade comes in first with practically none= no major issues to fix.

I too have asked HTC support about WM6.5 and have gotten the same answer - no WM6.5 for the Jade. But i asked them some 3 weeks ago, or more. Things may have changed in the mean time.

digsf said:
I too have asked HTC support about WM6.5 and have gotten the same answer - no WM6.5 for the Jade. But i asked them some 3 weeks ago, or more. Things may have changed in the mean time.
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I thought 21854 is the official release. My future release features 21859 so is a bit newer than the official . I solved a problem it had with office, my mistake after all. So the in the new megade wm 6.5 will have as much bugs as the official release. (maybe a bit less/more)

If u look at the specs of the Touch2, it's very clear it's just an upgrade on Jade. Apart from the improbable stuff like RAM and ROM. the rest are nearly a match. some of the features that jade lacks, just a couple of registry tweaks and shortcut assigned keys..and you're on the GO! Save $$$...and a prettier phone. LOL

tommy34 said:
I thought 21854 is the official release. My future release features 21859 so is a bit newer than the official . I solved a problem it had with office, my mistake after all. So the in the new megade wm 6.5 will have as much bugs as the official release. (maybe a bit less/more)
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Looking forward to it, Tommy!

Has anyone got hold old a full release WinMo6.5 and started cooking for the jade yet?????

From HTC Europe support:
Dear valued HTC customer,
Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center. We are dedicated to providing you with the best quality service and answering all of your questions and concerns.
You recently wrote us about an issue that you have encountered with your Device
6.5 is available on our website for the Touch Pro 2 and the SNAP.
HTC touch diamond 2 will be uploaded shortly
this will be a free download as far as we know.
We have no information of any other devices that will be updated, but when we hear anything it will be uploaded on the website.
if the device is branded please contact the network for further updates.
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So, official 6.5 may be a long shot.

digsf said:
From HTC Europe support:
So, official 6.5 may be a long shot.
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More than a long shot I would say, since allowing Jade owners to update 6.5 would mean they would not have an incentive to upgrade to Touch 2. Phones like ours requires a lot of thought at the beginning and more user friendly phones like Nokia are hard to beat. Believe me, I've tried to convert quite a few people!

any news about official rom 2.1?,

any news about official rom 2.1?

nope.
No news.

I've sent a e-mail to HTC officials
They replied me that there no project about android2.1 on tattoo

Qoome said:
I've sent a e-mail to HTC officials
They replied me that there no project about android2.1 on tattoo
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Maybe they go 2.2

I don't know.
I think HTC don't develop any ROM's.
But we can develop some good ROM's.
Now we have to develop linux Debian .

Thank you for your inquiry regarding the interests you have with our product, the HTC Tattoo. I can understand how important it is to be able to fully utilize your device and be able to have the 2.1 Android Operating System.
Unfortunately, at this time there is no Update to the 2.1 Android Operating System Update. This Update will be sent to your device via email or text message when it is available.
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Response I got from HTC.

In other words: this will never happen...
Let's see if FroYo really supports different screen resolutions...this would solve our problems in getting a decent upgrade...

Would HTC tattoo be able to run Froyo?

TheSSJ said:
In other words: this will never happen...
Let's see if FroYo really supports different screen resolutions...this would solve our problems in getting a decent upgrade...
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Oh where did you hear that possibility? That would be wonderful

Don't know anymore, but this information could just be another rumor, so be careful with spreading this info

no
i called the service desk, "highly unlikely" but htc is thinking about it

Just wait!
I heard about the HTC Wildfire with QVGA screen coming soon with 2.1 or later
>>> The tattoo has a chance.
And here
http://androidforums.com/htc-tattoo/27573-android-2-1-confirmed-tattoo-ish.html

Yeah...Tattoo and Wildfire have all the same exept wilds 384 ram and tattoos 256 and screen is bigger i think like desire's...but same in resolution and thats our hope )
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Wildfire is to Desire what the HD Mini is to HD2.
It is smaller, less RAM, lower res screen, slower CPU.
Still looks like it will be a top notch device though!

Deni_NS said:
Yeah...Tattoo and Wildfire have all the same exept wilds 384 ram and tattoos 256 and screen is bigger i think like desire's...but same in resolution and thats our hope )
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Resolution is not the problem... that works... the problem is camera and BT... but this is different in wildfire so no go.

If I don't see either a custom 2.1 working ROM (by working I mean everything working), or a RUU for 2.x from HTC, it'll be curtains for my HTC Tattoo. (I'll still build AzusaROM though and test the ROM on it until it bricks).
I'm thinking of getting a Nexus One at the end of the year.

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If I don't see either a custom 2.1 working ROM (by working I mean everything working), or a RUU for 2.x from HTC, it'll be curtains for my HTC Tattoo. (I'll still build AzusaROM though and test the ROM on it until it bricks).
I'm thinking of getting a Nexus One at the end of the year.
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Yeah, I thought so too, because since the Nexus is a Google Phone the new Android versions will be compatible with this phone for a long period of time I assume...

Hope is the best medicine for this sort of situation... Lets see devs at xda are trying hard to get it sorted..
You can always contribute in 2.1 development by visiting this forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=674269

Diamond, should I?

Hello guys!
I've got nice price for my Desire, so I'm going to sell it. Since my Leo took a shower few weeks back it is dead. But, I've found a Diamond, not used. And the price is very low. About 1/3 of what I get for my Desire. BUT, I only want this if I can install Android on it.
I've found this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=601751), does this realy work? If it does, I'm going to buy this in this week.
I've waiting for Evo, but since it is not available in my country (yet), I want to buy something "cheap" and use it when I wait for my Evo and then have it as my backup mobile.
Well, let me make the long short, does this phone with Android (If it is possible) work for everyday use? I've read that lots of "Force Close" pops up?
Thanks in advance

Lots of respect for XDANDROID ... I am using it (and continuously update to the newest build) ... but not as a productive system for daily use.
Two main reasons for me:
1. battery consumption improved but still ..
2. limited memory of the Diamond ...
You may go through the thread of XDANDROID to see further comments ...
BTW, there is also XDANDROID 2.2 out now (alpha though)
Cheers!

Huckleberry88 said:
Lots of respect for XDANDROID ... I am using it (and continuously update to the newest build) ... but not as a productive system for daily use.
Two main reasons for me:
1. battery consumption improved but still ..
2. limited memory of the Diamond ...
You may go through the thread of XDANDROID to see further comments ...
BTW, there is also XDANDROID 2.2 out now (alpha though)
Cheers!
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Hello! Thanks for your answer.
I've just found this:
http://www.androidonhtc.com/wiki/Port_Status
But I understand what you mean. I also forgot that this phone has no memory card slot (?) I've going to need this...

First off,I'm sorry about your Leo...May it rest in peace...
The Diamond is a really good phone and by far the most beautiful one that I have got my hands onto,but it's a 2 year old device.It was the top back in 2008,but now it's really...moderate!But why would you want to sell your Desire?Keep it until the Evo comes to your country(which is by the way...?) and then sell it!

tolis626 said:
First off,I'm sorry about your Leo...May it rest in peace...
The Diamond is a really good phone and by far the most beautiful one that I have got my hands onto,but it's a 2 year old device.It was the top back in 2008,but now it's really...moderate!But why would you want to sell your Desire?Keep it until the Evo comes to your country(which is by the way...?) and then sell it!
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I've also miss my Leo!
I know the Diamond, my girlfriend has it Yeah, it is old but this does not matter for me if I can install Android on it. The reason why I sell my Desire is cause I got very good price for it. I'm from Norway.
I've also saw that few hours ago HD2 booted with Linux, maybe I should get a new HD2 and use it with Android. That would be awsome! But this will take a long time tou...

Tunay said:
I've also miss my Leo!
I know the Diamond, my girlfriend has it Yeah, it is old but this does not matter for me if I can install Android on it. The reason why I sell my Desire is cause I got very good price for it. I'm from Norway.
I've also saw that few hours ago HD2 booted with Linux, maybe I should get a new HD2 and use it with Android. That would be awsome! But this will take a long time tou...
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I wouldn't recommend a second-hand HD2. Go for a new handset.

siddharthsai said:
I wouldn't recommend a second-hand HD2. Go for a new handset.
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For sure, I'm going to buy new. My point was that Android can't be far away from running on HD2

If you want Android I wouldn't recommend the HD2.Yes,it's one of the best out there and now there is an Android port,but such a port has been available for the Diamond and its compatibles for a very long time now and it's not usable for everyday use.No disrespect to the work that's being done,I really appreciate it and use it on my Diamond,but I have it as a backup phone so it doesn't really matter to me if it works flawlessly as I use my Hero everyday.Android on HD2 is in very early stages,not even open for anyone to try and I think it will be a long time before we see it working efficiently.

tolis626 said:
If you want Android I wouldn't recommend the HD2.Yes,it's one of the best out there and now there is an Android port,but such a port has been available for the Diamond and its compatibles for a very long time now and it's not usable for everyday use.No disrespect to the work that's being done,I really appreciate it and use it on my Diamond,but I have it as a backup phone so it doesn't really matter to me if it works flawlessly as I use my Hero everyday.Android on HD2 is in very early stages,not even open for anyone to try and I think it will be a long time before we see it working efficiently.
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Yes, I understand your point. And by my post above yours I meant about 5-6 months with short time
Maybe it takes longer may not, the thing is, I don't know when Evo wil be available in my country...

Yes, I understand your point. And by my post above yours I meant about 5-6 months with short time
Maybe it takes longer may not, the thing is, I don't know when Evo wil be available in my country...
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My friend I think that neither you nor I will get an Evo in our countries...It seems that smartphone companies are on a US-frenzy sort of thing and release all the good stuff there these days...What we get?One device in our market for every 10 devices in the American market...

tolis626 said:
My friend I think that neither you nor I will get an Evo in our countries...It seems that smartphone companies are on a US-frenzy sort of thing and release all the good stuff there these days...What we get?One device in our market for every 10 devices in the American market...
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oh
Going for HD2 then... :/ Diamond has 4GB internal memory, I need more then that

DFT TEAM has Android working on Nand PRO2

DFT team has released a video of Android running on nand pro2
RHO's CPU is too slow and screen resolution too high for sense, so we decide to make pure Android ROM based on Android 2.2
youtube.com/watch?v=yOGnQ3D5IDk

wow
hey , sound good,
i hope working an topaz,too
i think they both phones have similar technical data.
i dont understand why cpu is to slow, lenin reds built with sense
run much more faster from sdcard than this nand built ????
btw good work from the DFT Team , thx

hello there. let's hope topaz, aka touch diamond2, wont be forgotten.
I'll be willing to pay for good working rom

sounds promising
waiting for more updates

Hopefully it will be working on our phones as well.
BTW, one of the comments said to be using Neopeek's android roms. Can someone post a link, I must have missed them.

loadstone007 said:
Hopefully it will be working on our phones as well.
BTW, one of the comments said to be using Neopeek's android roms. Can someone post a link, I must have missed them.
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Click here. Anyway its a little bit outdated but try it and be sure to update kernel, rootfs,...

ReWind402 said:
Click here. Anyway its a little bit outdated but try it and be sure to update kernel, rootfs,...
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Thanks!
It's indeed outdated, perhaps I should just wait.

thijsdgier said:
RHO's CPU is too slow and screen resolution too high for sense, so we decide to make pure Android ROM based on Android 2.2
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Well, i don't know if this will be the same decision for topaz. But if yes then it's a bad bad info for me
I just hate pure android and sense in android rocks!!
I also don't understand this because i have lenin build and it's fasttt from sdcard!!!
Shouldn't be even faster from nand??
Anyway thanks for all who make this possible even if it no feet my needs!!
Thank you

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Shouldn't be even faster from nand??
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AFAIK nand is not faster than sd-method. But it would allow you too get rid off winmo.

actually guys, your phone won't improve that much after NAND. believe me i'm hd2 user and i have used android since first versions based off xdandroid..
as far as speed goes, read/write is actually faster on sdcard!
only andvantage of nand is stability and power consumption, ofcourse after all quirks are polished.
qc's 528 msm's are too slow to run sense well. it can get slow even on 1ghz. wvga is too much to handle, and sense is very ram sensitive! maybe if someone could get it upscaled from hvga, but in that case it would be streched..
i also own both diamonds(I and II) and i would love to see winmo gone. but on good port like leo(feels like native device) we had advantage of few devices with same components built in and much work being already done, and i do not see wvga android with small screen and 528mhz released by htc.
i'm just being realistic here, not mean or anything else.

1 - Topaz is very small mobile phone. I am don't wants to use such big phone like HD2.
2 - Battary life in topaz is more longer
3 - It have smaler screan and that is why it is more clear.

Airpil said:
1 - Topaz is very small mobile phone. I am don't wants to use such big phone like HD2.
2 - Battary life in topaz is more longer
3 - It have smaler screan and that is why it is more clear.
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you misunderstood my post, i'm just tryin to say how thing are and hd2 was best example i could think of. i like my diamonds very much. first gen was really awesome on looks, but low on hardware(slow and small ram..etc).
i wish there will be some goodies from dft soon

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actually guys, your phone won't improve that much after NAND. believe me i'm hd2 user and i have used android since first versions based off xdandroid..
as far as speed goes, read/write is actually faster on sdcard!
only andvantage of nand is stability and power consumption, ofcourse after all quirks are polished.
qc's 528 msm's are too slow to run sense well. it can get slow even on 1ghz. wvga is too much to handle, and sense is very ram sensitive! maybe if someone could get it upscaled from hvga, but in that case it would be streched..
i also own both diamonds(I and II) and i would love to see winmo gone. but on good port like leo(feels like native device) we had advantage of few devices with same components built in and much work being already done, and i do not see wvga android with small screen and 528mhz released by htc.
i'm just being realistic here, not mean or anything else.
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quited d2 and joined moto defy~~~

What happened to this project??? I didn't see MAGLDR

Black.Heart said:
What happened to this project??? I didn't see MAGLDR
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It was closed-source, and I don't believe they ever made a public release. Since none of the code is available to the public, no other dev can pickup where they left off...
Crappy model to go with. Were still pushing forward with NAND using open source concepts, and RHOD is getting there (just very slowly). I'm hoping each device will have at least one dev that will step up and get the dirty work done to look towards NAND on all devices... but that hasn't happened yet. There's not even that much (developer) steam behind NAND on RHOD...

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It was closed-source, and I don't believe they ever made a public release. Since none of the code is available to the public, no other dev can pickup where they left off...
Crappy model to go with. Were still pushing forward with NAND using open source concepts, and RHOD is getting there (just very slowly). I'm hoping each device will have at least one dev that will step up and get the dirty work done to look towards NAND on all devices... but that hasn't happened yet. There's not even that much (developer) steam behind NAND on RHOD...
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I am very much upset with that you are right!