Hi guys,
I am ready to finally get rid of my tmobile wing! I finally made my decision to go with the international version of the SGS. Well, almost, I do have a few questions to owners and US users in particular:
- I would like to know of really bad known issues of the phone. Every phone will have some issues, it is a given, but what I am talking about is issue like the captivate where a lot of people have random shutdwon of their phones. I would like to know if there are any similar issues with the SGS that will prevent basic operation of the phone ( I know about the gps, and I am fine with this problem)
- How is reception, drop calls and call quality on the ATT network, and if someone is in FL, please tell me about your experience.
-I am aware of the fact that the phone has only 1900 Mhz band but I have been looking everywhere for a map that will show where the 850 vs 19000 3G areas are and I cannot find one! so if someone knows where to find one please a link would be great.
Thanks so much in advance for any input.
sure there are owners who can answer at least the first question. Please!
You need to wait for USA ATT owners to read your post .
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JJEgan said:
You need to wait for USA ATT owners to read your post .
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Well, I would think any owner could answer my first question. that would be helpful, to make sure I am ok buying the phone. I am in a dire need of a new phone as my current one is falling apart. So if anybody who knows about this phone, it would be nice if they could chime in.
Thanks in advance!
I can't really answer anything about the reception on AT&T, but the problems with the phone there are lockups. It can freeze. But if you flash a custom ROM onto the thing, it runs like a dreaaam.
I have been bugged by the lagging on the first week i got the phone. managed to apply the lagfix and seem to be doing great so far. I'm planning to wait for official gingerbread from kies. Still afraid of flashing though.
Yeah dunno much how to answer your questions tho. but yeah, SGS is the best phone yet i ever had.
I've got the international i9000. From last August till now, I haven't had any problems. I put this down to 2 things, one good fortune ,and secondly it's unbranded and unlocked from new. The phone has gotten better with each firmware upgrade and now on 2.2.1 even if gingerbread wasn't coming my phones just fantastic and it's quick. The phone apparently can be rapid when its on gingerbread listening to the lads on XDA and some say it takes care of the only thing Ican say negatively about the phone, which is the battery life, and personally, (The lads on here probably know better.) I put that down almost entirely to system spyware,as three hours of internet knocks mine down to 48%, and even with all syncs turned off and all apps taken out except the sammy key board every so often all the g***l* stuff restarts itself in one form or another and you can see the little green and red data arrows active. AS a phone, I believe with this next official update coming, allowing for the gs2, allowing for it not having a camera flash, this is the best phone money can buy, yes there are dual core phones, yes a few more pixels, even yes, I'll probably at some point get the sg2, but not because it's needed , it's just what we do, after all we come to this site with the others because we like phones. Hope this helps in some way.
If you read around the forums, you'll find a lot of great things about this phone. I couldn't be happier with mine really. Reception is never a problem for me though I'm in Canada. Some people claim they have GPS problems, but there are several fixes that can help you improve/overcome those problems. They claim are that they can't lock enough/any satellites on their GPS system to get a reading, but after using GPS test app to learn a bit about the best way to detect a signal it works like a charm for me . You won't regret it, although I would probably look into a SGSII if it were me.
If you are going to be on AT&T why don't you buy the i9000m
Most of the issues in the phone have been down to bad firmware by the carriers and also a silly design decision from Samsung with regards to file systems on earlier firmwares.
Running 2.1 firmware the phone was slow as heck and my GPS which was set to Autonomous mode would take sometimes up to 5 minutes to get a fix. A simple setting change gets GPS lock within a few seconds. Also with each firmware release the phone has gotten faster and faster.
Also if you're a tinkerer then this phone is a dream. It's hard to brick, often recoverable if you make an error, and some of the well tuned ROMs on these boards are absolute rocketships for speed.
Thanks guys! You gave me great input. I will have to make a decision, but this will help me greatly.
zorxd said:
If you are going to be on AT&T why don't you buy the i9000m
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Don't they have a problem with this phone on some interal SD card failure? Is this something that only applies to the I9000m and not the international version?
Free ram available in this device is quite low, I had an European hd2 with 448 mb ram but it always had more free ram than my i9000 which has 512mb(almost double)... more free ram means it can do multitasking better, apparently do not need to be closed ects
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Just found a SGS I9000T on amazon for $445, do you guys think it is a good deal?
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Okay, so I’m thinking about buying a Nexus One and have a few questions to ask before buying it. Please understand that I have never used Android before and this will be my first time. Here they are…
1. Does rooting void my warranty? Like, if I decide to root the phone, will my warranty no longer be valid? Also, what exactly is rooting?
2. Does using a rooted phone vs. a non-rooted phone have any differences besides having access to root files? Like, is a rooted phone slower or have any problems? What are the pros and cons of a rooted phone vs. a non rooted one?
3. Does sense from let’s say the Desire ROM, run as smoothly on the Desire as it does on the Nexus?
4. What are the pros and cons of the Nexus One?
5. How durable is the nexus one, I saw some article where the LCD supposedly cracked for no reason which I don't believe but...? I do take really, really good care of my phones and baby them but I’d still like to know. I live in south Florida where it’s really humid (and HOT, 103 degrees at 3:00 today!!) and had a moisture incident with a Tilt 2…. Especially since it’s summer and rains quite often in afternoons and then the suns comes back up which makes it really humid and miserable….
6.Does anyone regret getting a Nexus One and wish they got something else…? If so why, and what?
That’s about it…sorry if I‘m asking really common questions that get asked a lot but, I’m new to Android and curious before I make the switch. If there is anything essential a newcomer needs to know that I didn’t mention please tell me, I’d really appreciate it!
Go for nexus one, its amazing with Froyo 2.2, no phone currently beat nexus with froyo 2.2, and if u got built model other than ERE27, you are bound to root it to get Froyo 2.2, which is worth the unlocking. And as for unlocking it void your warranty.
And yes of course nexus one is best phone ever, current owner of nexus one, and iphone 3gs, i would like to say Nexus One can outperform iphone anyday with froyo 2.2. Except of some apps. but dont worry Android Market is catching up, and soon it will match quality apps like in iphone. Although i miss my Skype on Nexus but there are alternative to workaround. but with Google Voice who needs skype.
I dont know if it will answer your each and every question but i would simply suggest 529 USD well spent on NEXUS.
Go with your gut
Go for nexus one, its amazing with Froyo 2.2, no phone currently beat nexus with froyo 2.2, and if u got built model other than ERE27, you are bound to root it to get Froyo 2.2, which is worth the unlocking. And as for unlocking it void your warranty.
And yes of course nexus one is best phone ever, current owner of nexus one, and iphone 3gs, i would like to say Nexus One can outperform iphone anyday with froyo 2.2. Except of some apps. but dont worry Android Market is catching up, and soon it will match quality apps like in iphone. Although i miss my Skype on Nexus but there are alternative to workaround. but with Google Voice who needs skype.
I dont know if it will answer your each and every question but i would simply suggest 529 USD well spent on NEXUS.
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BRO I have Skype on my nexus. Just type in Skype android download on google and you'll get the beta. Its the best.
no - and why
no, i would not recommend a N1 for anyone, anymore. here's why:
3G. the phone drops 3g signals constantly, without warning, causing any/all network traffic to halt. youtube, phone calls, pandora, voicemail, calendars, sync, all of that fails when the 3g signal dies.
now, for clarification, when 3g drops, the phone is sitting on a shelf/table, with four bars. four. 4. excellent signal, no UFO's flying over head, nothing. it completely stops making traffic, and forces you to restart the radio (goto airplane, then exit airplane mode) before packets start moving again.
i've been using the n1 for about 3 months now, and it's an AWESOME smartphone. the roms are fantastic, the apps great, but 3g is rediculous. it's hardware, and it's really bad.
would i buy a revision 2 of the nexus ? ONLY and only after a few other thousand other people report that the 3g problems are gone.
just to be clear, 3g is the one and only gripe (besides a physical keyboard) i have with the n1.
your other questions will be answered shortly. ;-)
Okay, thanks for the answers guys but so far only one of my questions was answered!
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Okay, so I’m thinking about buying a Nexus One and have a few questions to ask before buying it. Please understand that I have never used Android before and this will be my first time. Here they are…
1. Does rooting void my warranty? Like, if I decide to root the phone, will my warranty no longer be valid? Also, what exactly is rooting?
2. Does using a rooted phone vs. a non-rooted phone have any differences besides having access to root files? Like, is a rooted phone slower or have any problems? What are the pros and cons of a rooted phone vs. a non rooted one?
3. Does sense from let’s say the Desire ROM, run as smoothly on the Desire as it does on the Nexus?
4. What are the pros and cons of the Nexus One?
5. How durable is the nexus one, I saw some article where the LCD supposedly cracked for no reason which I don't believe but...? I do take really, really good care of my phones and baby them but I’d still like to know. I live in south Florida where it’s really humid (and HOT, 103 degrees at 3:00 today!!) and had a moisture incident with a Tilt 2…. Especially since it’s summer and rains quite often in afternoons and then the suns comes back up which makes it really humid and miserable….
6.Does anyone regret getting a Nexus One and wish they got something else…? If so why, and what?
That’s about it…sorry if I‘m asking really common questions that get asked a lot but, I’m new to Android and curious before I make the switch. If there is anything essential a newcomer needs to know that I didn’t mention please tell me, I’d really appreciate it!
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rooting can void you warranty, people are having hit and miss experiences... in the end, it is up to htc... like this site told me, play with it, use it.... make sure the phone is solid then root.
I have never used a desire, but I did try the senseui rom, it looked and felt great... but it was 2.1...
my non root nexus was great, a pleasure to use... and that is coming from my 3gs.... it was not as smooth or polished as my 3gs, but it was beyond acceptable.... but I wanted to root because I was tired of waiting for froyo 2.2... which adds beta flash support. So I did it, and now its fast, smooth and has many more options... I can play most flash websites and even some flash games, stream sports games and my local radio stations, it add some cool apps to your phone as well, depening on what you flash, it can be overclocked, or cool looking, endless really. I still do not know what I am doing... but it is fun so far, lol.
I have no cons yet, pros are above really.... 5mb camera, 1000mhz (1113 here), flash, customizing. I think it is very durable so far, I am a contractor and use it for work and play, I even dropped it today
I do not regret it and I am having fun with it, it does almost all the things I want and much more I never knew possible... even live wallpaper makes me giddy, lol.
I went from the 3g to the 3gs and I still love the nexus one..... I am new to my phone, but I hope I shed some light somewhere, you will not regret it
Wow, thanks! I'm really concerned about rooting though... Is it difficult? Do you lose any features or usability of the device? What exactly does it do?
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Wow, thanks! I'm really concerned about rooting though... Is it difficult? Do you lose any features or usability of the device? What exactly does it do?
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rooting is not very difficult, but be sure you do your research first. Rooting does not loose any features, in fact the purpose of it is to allow the user full access to the phone. Basically the phone manufacturer lock down many of the things that could cause the phone to break, because of this rooting allows you to have full "admin" rights to the phone, be able to possibly break the phone but it allows you so much more. Overclocking, access to apps not usable by nonroots, and rom flashing. There are a lot of things to do when rooted, however I would advise that you hold off on rooting (im assuming your new to android) get to know the phone first, see if you like, or if your disappointed, if you are perfectly content with what the phone defaultly delivers there is no reason to root.
-Cheers and good luck
PS the nexus one was my first smartphone and so far it has done everything i could possiblely want, and i never looked back
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if u got built model other than ERE27, you are bound to root it to get Froyo 2.2, which is worth the unlocking. And as for unlocking it void your warranty.
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hmm...why is that? my phone came with EPE54B and would like to get froyo once its out officially
If you get the awesome Nexus in your hand stock or rooted, you will be amazed and never look back
Well, I won't be rooting it myself, someone I know offered to do it for me who is really experienced with Android. So should I accept the offer, or decline? I'm coming from WinMo here where ROOT access I suppose it's called is their by default. You can go to the windows folder and do anything you want within their where all the system files are available to see. But, you can't delete some stuff therefore total commander give you total access to that lol.
the only possible issue is rooting voids your warranty. but many people have still gotten repairs under warranty even with root.
there is no downside to rooting. you dont lose anything, all you do is gain functions. i waited 3 months before rooting, and once i did i'm gald i did and have no regrets.
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no, i would not recommend a N1 for anyone, anymore. here's why:
3G. the phone drops 3g signals constantly, without warning, causing any/all network traffic to halt. youtube, phone calls, pandora, voicemail, calendars, sync, all of that fails when the 3g signal dies.
now, for clarification, when 3g drops, the phone is sitting on a shelf/table, with four bars. four. 4. excellent signal, no UFO's flying over head, nothing. it completely stops making traffic, and forces you to restart the radio (goto airplane, then exit airplane mode) before packets start moving again.
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I guess you should take this to your cellular provider. Nexus is the only phone I had until now that allowed me full-time WiFi tethering on an hour long way in 100mph train, while some of the area being covered with HSDPA, and in some spots dropping all the way down to GPRS, not even EDGE. And it's capable of initiating and keeping HSDPA with 0 bars showing. I was constantly in remote control of 2 computers, email, communicator, etc.
So... anymore input/advice?
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So... anymore input/advice?
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i would advise get the phone then wait a while before rooting, see if you really need it or if you are perfectly content with what it already lets you do, if you want more control over the phone after a month or two then root it, no downside except warranty voided.
I do prefer control. I'm coming from WinMo which I changed the look dailey and hope to do that soon with Android.
you can do all of that without rooting, android is much more loose than winmo ever will be, without even rooting.
advice? get the phone, use for a week to make sure nothing is faulty, root and play
like someone said above, you do not have to root to customize/control... it just gives you more options and things to play with/try out.
I love having 2.2 but I miss the sense ui
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So... anymore input/advice?
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(maybe) get an android phone ... but NOT the N1 (with all its hardware/software issues).
And if you plan to use your phone for business ... forget android.
So what if any issues have you had with your stock nexus1 ? Has rooting helped or hurt?
I love my G1 but it will be time to upgrade soon. Ive just done a wipe and upgrade to cm 5.0.8 DS and like it so far.
Id love to have a rooted N1 but the horror stories with post as recent as today about wifi,trackball & screen issues make me reconsider. So far I don't know of anything else in the same ballpark that will work on Tmobile.
Thanks for any input
G1 rooted with cyanogen 5.0.8 DS
Xda app
I have not seen any issues with wifi, trackball nor screen. I been the owner of my Nexus One for over 2 months already and I can tell you, This was the best investment ever. Now, with custom ROMs you can improve the functionality of the Phone by a lot. 720p video, faster, wifi n, radio fm maybe? etc...
The N1 has very good hardware, it has things that may be officially unlocked in the near future who knows, though they are already unlocked for custom roms.
Also good to have if you plan to be the base for Android, Since Google will use the N1 as their main device, everything will be optimized for you. (That's my bet, we all saw it with Froyo Demos)
It's fine. 99% of the people wit thing are happy with it, the 1% with problems are understandably vocal. I have two N1's on my account mine (which is rooted) and my girlfriends (which isn't rooted, but has been running the Froyo test ROM for a while). Both work great.
I loved my G1. Probably the phone I loved most when I had it.
The N1 is a better phone in almost every single way ((I was able to change alot of the hardware kb/tb/covers etc on G1)) which is why i loved it.
Nexus One is a leap ahead of every phone prior to April its not even funny. Dont hesitate the N1 >> > and >> over any other phone on Tmobile right now. I love the Mytouch slide but the power ability of N1 are a much better choice.
IMO N1 still has best overall feature set in HW/SW available on the market. Even though that lead has slimmed its still the best you can get right now.
The only problem I have ever heard with the N1 is dust under the screen. But that seems few and far between.
I have had my N1 for about 2 months not and zero issues. I came from an iPhone 3gs (unlocked and jailbroken) and I'll never look back. The N1 is the best phone I have owned. Nothing comes close to it.
they arent problems, just people complaining vocally. the wifi works great, the screen works great, and i've never heard of any trackball issues. go for it you wont regret it.
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The only problem I have ever heard with the N1 is dust under the screen. But that seems few and far between.
I have had my N1 for about 2 months not and zero issues. I came from an iPhone 3gs (unlocked and jailbroken) and I'll never look back. The N1 is the best phone I have owned. Nothing comes close to it.
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My exact situation, and thoughts. I actually have my 3GS in the cabinet here at my desk because I thought I might want to switch back and forth, but I haven't touched my 3GS since the N1 showed up in the mail.
That's exact what I'd like in an N1 and get a 8" or less touchpad running android later lol
Now I need to decide on a renewal or pay full price
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Ok so after checking the Google page I qualify for an upgrade and with overnight shipping ( which oddly is the same as ground shipping) for $313.38
Does T-mobile charge anything else?
My current plan is the MyFaves 1000 and I guess will be the Even more individual 500 plan. which wont be so bad now that everyone texts rather than calls, and there is wifi calling
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The N1 has issues with the voice cutting out frequently (at least, mine does, on Rogers/Fido). Look on the Google support forum to see lots of people complaining about this issue. Maybe T-Mobile units are unaffected?
Haven't had any voice issues at all on Fido in Canada.
Your voice as in people you call cant hear you?
Hesitant to upgrade from g1 due to reputation
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Why? If you don't like it, return it. If you like it and you have a problem with it, HTC will fix or replace it under warranty.
Honestly, the "reports" on this or that regarding Nexus One deficiencies were broadcasted much louder than any other phone because of the hype surrounding the device. In reality, they are the same few and far between issues you'd find with any other phone on the market.
From someone who used to swap phones as frequently as once every month, I have been using the Nexus One since launch day, had problems with the first AT&T version I bought, and had HTC replace it. Not a problem since.
Where do these reputations come from? the dust issue is the only real one ive seen and htc has fixed the glue problem. its a great phone buy it.
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The N1 has issues with the voice cutting out frequently (at least, mine does, on Rogers/Fido). Look on the Google support forum to see lots of people complaining about this issue. Maybe T-Mobile units are unaffected?
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I've never had this issue on Rogers and I've installed practically every ROM available.
Personally, I would wait for a phone that has a better touch surface. I was really looking for a multi-touch keyboard but was really disappointed to find out that the phone would never be able to do that. Other than that I love it.
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Personally, I would wait for a phone that has a better touch surface. I was really looking for a multi-touch keyboard but was really disappointed to find out that the phone would never be able to do that. Other than that I love it.
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1. Swype. I'll never go back.
2. The possibility is there for an app to have it.
Back to topic, I love my N1. I kept it stock for a few months, but I rooted it about a month ago and somehow, the phone is that much better. It's a staple of what I have the freedom to do now. AGPS + nav is phenomenal and comes with the phone. The camera is great. Video can now be shot at 720p (if rooted), and will soon come to Froyo. The hardware is crazy fast, Javascript 2.1 vs 2.2 vs iPad, 40+MFLOPS performance. And, since this is Google's baby, it will be the first to receive updates like Froyo.
The touch surface isn't as bad as people are making it seem, and if you're really up for gaming you can hook a wii-mote to it. Talking on the phone is fine. I occasionally have a weird call, but my friend with an iPhone drops/no-connects calls way more than me.
It has it's quirks. The antenna is located at the bottom of the phone. The reception isn't the best, and T-Mobile doesn't have the strongest signal. I work in a office building/warehouse, and getting 3G in some parts of the first floor (built on a hill, sometimes underground sometimes not) is difficult. A few N1s have had dust under the screen (fixed from what I've heard). Other than that... The phone is excellent.
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The N1 has issues with the voice cutting out frequently (at least, mine does, on Rogers/Fido). Look on the Google support forum to see lots of people complaining about this issue. Maybe T-Mobile units are unaffected?
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I also got the AT&T Phone, but No Issues with voice or anything like that.
The only downside of AT&T phones are.... NO FROYO GOD DAMN IT... well just yet.
pass and wqit
pass on the n1. I own an n1 for a few months now and HATE THE 3G ISSUESthat it has. also miss the physical keyboard... your g1s keyboard is great and I'd toss this nexus for a snapdragon g1 in a heartbeat.
I'd also suggest not renewing your contract so youccan chose any phone.... any carrier.
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Haha, reluctant to go from the G1 to nexus? I guess I kinda understand. I went from my G1 to the Nexus 6 months ago and god damn I haven't thought twice about that decision! Rooting your phone just makes things that much more fun too!
Basically here's the situation, been checking sites for a few weeks on good deals on 2nd hand Android phones. I recently started making contact with sellers and here's the bit.
Seller A - meeting tonight supposedly
Rogers "Unlocked" Captivate
Usb + Charger
$380
Haven't seen pics and the guy says to trust him that the phone is unlocked
Seller B - meeting tomorrow if I back down on Seller A offer
Bell Locked Vibrant (i9000M)
LNIB, bags, all accessories, etc
$370
Seen pics of the phone and accessories. Looks good (even seen it turned on)
I'm on Rogers and was wondering which would be best? I'm fine with either phone. At this point after seeing both for so long/often (researched) they're both on even playing ground...except for some speculations that i9000M (Vibrant)'s battery life is better.
So my question is...Seller A or Seller B? If I go with Seller B I'd have to root/unlock and I've read through threads and forums and seems like loads of people have problems :S More often than the person replying and saying thanks to the creator of the thread/helper and saying that they got it. So I'm having doubts about that. Don't want to mess up the phone!
Also, since this is my first dealings with buying something second hand from a stranger, any tips on things to check for? I heard it's always important to check that the phone can enter download/recovery mode but wouldn't that also reset the phone :S
Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!
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Basically here's the situation, been checking sites for a few weeks on good deals on 2nd hand Android phones. I recently started making contact with sellers and here's the bit.
Seller A - meeting tonight supposedly
Rogers "Unlocked" Captivate
Usb + Charger
$380
Haven't seen pics and the guy says to trust him that the phone is unlocked
Seller B - meeting tomorrow if I back down on Seller A offer
Bell Locked Vibrant (i9000M)
LNIB, bags, all accessories, etc
$370
Seen pics of the phone and accessories. Looks good (even seen it turned on)
I'm on Rogers and was wondering which would be best? I'm fine with either phone. At this point after seeing both for so long/often (researched) they're both on even playing ground...except for some speculations that i9000M (Vibrant)'s battery life is better.
So my question is...Seller A or Seller B? If I go with Seller B I'd have to root/unlock and I've read through threads and forums and seems like loads of people have problems :S More often than the person replying and saying thanks to the creator of the thread/helper and saying that they got it. So I'm having doubts about that. Don't want to mess up the phone!
Also, since this is my first dealings with buying something second hand from a stranger, any tips on things to check for? I heard it's always important to check that the phone can enter download/recovery mode but wouldn't that also reset the phone :S
Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!
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I personally like i9000M better (looks-wise) and of course, in terms of features, i9000M has a front facing camera which the Rogers Captivate doesn't. I am not sure if Captivate has problems flashing other roms.
As for things to check, you can bring a sim card from another carrier to test if the phone is unlocked. Test the camera, test phone call, check the phone condition and also firmware version (might give you an idea whether the last owner did a lot of flashing).
oooo true true...only thing is I have only 1 sim card from Rogers :S
I'm at the fork in the road right now...I won't be able to test phone call on the Bell one because the Seller B's bell sim is deactivated so he can only turn it on and what not.
Which is the safer bet? Best issue for me is the root/unlocking process. Though there are guides everywhere online and an awesome on here, I still read about many conflicts people have. And the interal SD card corruption (2 weeks after unlocking) I read about scares me
Is this the right code to check firmware?: *#1234# Firmware Version
Also I was told this should work...unless Rogers locked it: *#7465625# = Check the phone lock status
So you are willing to take the risk with possible hardware failure? right?
If so, choose Rogers Captivate.
If not go find a Desire Z or something like that~
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So you are willing to take the risk with possible hardware failure? right?
If so, choose Rogers Captivate.
If not go find a Desire Z or something like that~
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DesireZ is nice, but the hinge for "sliding" the screen can break easily.
wait what? Captivate has hardware failure?!?! :S
But THAT'S the one that's unlocked lol
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wait what? Captivate has hardware failure?!?! :S
But THAT'S the one that's unlocked lol
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You can unlock and root the i9000M easily though.
yea but heard lots of horror stories :S so I'm not so sure...and someone reassured me things are okay with the Captivate.
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yea but heard lots of horror stories :S so I'm not so sure...and someone reassured me things are okay with the Captivate.
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I can tell you that rooting and unlocking won't kill the phone. But you will have a high chance if you start flashing different firmwares on it.
The answer of which to choose is simple:
if you want front camera and hard key button go with Bell
if you don't need the front camera, and don't mind having 4 fake buttons go with Rogers
LOLOLOL 4 fake buttons haha jokes
Thanks! I'll go with Captivate and if n e thing goes wrong...or I dont like it...just sell it and grab a Vibrant (i9000M)
Thanks for everyone's contributions.
Got a little sketchy when he wanted to change locations lol wish me luck!! And going with the Captivate.
BOUGHT THE PHONE!
In working order. Thanks for everyone's input!
Just a little bummed about the responsiveness of the "fake" 4 buttons...gotta find the sweet spot when touching them. Or maybe it's just Eclair's fault lol
hey guys how are you?, I would like your thoughts on this phone( if y'all don't mind) how easy is to root? what are the best roms available? you guys think it will be waste of money buying it?? all the feedback about this phone is welcome, (good and bad)... I am planing on the gifts I will be buying for x-mas , (I know a bit to early) and I was thinking buying this phone for my lil sis, she currently has the motorola flip which I got her last year, I am planning on spending $200 refurbished, out of contract, used in mint condition..I seen so many reviews but we all know that reviews are just eh, the best way is to ask an actual user,I am a sprint user so I don't know nothing about AT&T phones, well thank you guys, i am eager to hear your thoughts on this phone, and or should I consider getting a better one (more recent phone) thank you again!!
Its alright. Check the build number, GPS, and other specifics off the phone. Development makes it amazing
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If you are comfortable with HTC modding, then modding SGS is usually mind boggling (at least for most people). I find it much much better, but thats just me. Look at Build number since the newer ones have better GPS and don't suffer from sleep death.
Devs make this a great phone that is very fast with an amazing screen. There are many great custom ROMs here...
If it's a refurbed early model it might have fixed GPS (or not). GPS performance is a crap shoot in general...Otherwise, it's solid.
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For 200 bucks this phone is worth it. The roms are great and stable as well as good support incase something goes wrong with flashing or what not, and I think it will still be a good phone in a years time (if you are going on a yearly cycle with new phones for your sister).
pretty much as stated above the phone is a great phone with the exception of the gps , sometimes it works great other times , not so much- if you sister doesn't nee the phone for the gps it is def. a phone she will enjoy using especially with a custom ROM to cater to her likes- bottom line go for it im planning on getting one for my daughter
I'm going to go ahead and list the issues I have with the Captivate off the top of my head and let you decide off that.
As has been stated previously the GPS is generally pretty crappy, but mine's actually been pretty good on the latest leaked firmware KI2.
The cache by default is only around 30M so if you want to download anything larger then that you'll have to flash a modded PIT file or fine some other means to give you a larger cache (see the Cache link in my sig).
Phones tend to have their own individualism so what works for me may not work as well for you
I wish you the best of luck with whatever phone you decide to go with.
I got my Cappy on release day. Never had a single problem with it. Kernel updates are coming to a close and ROMs for 2.3.5. are following closely. Best phone I've ever owned hands down. Development makes it better. I wish my Glock was this perfect! I will be upgrading to Galaxy S II in January when im due, but I will always keep this phone as backup.
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I just wanted to warn poor souls like me.
A couple of months ago when I was trying to decide wich phone to get, I read in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_Series
that for some users sometimes the GPS migh be a little inconsistent, or something like that. Now I see this text has changed to something more accurate,
PLEASE READ IT
This devices GPS' is just plain DEFECTIVE. Period.
If you don't need GPS then go ahead, but this was not my case and now I am bitterly regretting having bought a SGS. It only works on the highway, and not always. In the city is just plain useless. My old Tytyn II and my wife's ACE are much much much much better at this. I mean it's not that they are better: they work an the SGS don't.
I have tried several patches and several modems. This is pure fantasy, nothing is going to fix a defective hardware.
It is also very irresponsible form samsung not issuing a recall or something. Never again will i buy a Samsung phone.
very frustaed here. regards.
Check your build number. If it is 1010 or earlier, then you have a well-known bad GPS. They started fixing phones that were made or refurbished after November 2010. If your build is 1012 or 11xx, then your phone should have a fixed GPS.
My 1101 is much better than my 1007. It's not perfect, but it gets the job done. Most of the time it's dead-on accurate, but it jumps every once in a while, putting me on a side street.
I took my 1007 to an AT&T device center, told them the GPS is not acceptable and that it shuts down on its own once in a while (also true), and they exchanged my phone with no problem. Try returning it to a device center. If they exchange the phone for you, test out the GPS until you get one that locks fast.
yup, mine's a 1007, so that's it, I have a well know defective phone and there's propably nothing I can do about it since I bought it used on ebay and brought it to Spain, both at&t and Samsung would probably laugh at my face if I ask for an exchange here.
as I said, never again Samsung, too irresponsible.
thanks,
I have a 1007 that I bought on the very day it was first released. Some ROM's seem to make the GPS work very well. I'm on CM7.1 now and it works pretty good. Its not as flawless as my friends DroidX or iPhone but it locs within about 10-15 secs and once its locked it stays locked.
Try different ROMs. I had good experience with FireFly 3.0, Cog 2.2Beta7 or Beta8, CM7.1.
A few of them I could even get a GPS lock indoors. I cant do that with CM7.1 but as long as I'm outside it works very well.
You really should rename this thread "Let's bash Samsung"
mcongosto said:
yup, mine's a 1007, so that's it, I have a well know defective phone and there's propably nothing I can do about it since I bought it used on ebay and brought it to Spain, both at&t and Samsung would probably laugh at my face if I ask for an exchange here.
as I said, never again Samsung, too irresponsible.
thanks,
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lol. Good, go to HTC (they will treat you even worse if you have any problems) at least I won't have to sift through any more useless threads made by you in Samsung sections.
derek4484 said:
I have a 1007 that I bought on the very day it was first released. Some ROM's seem to make the GPS work very well. I'm on CM7.1 now and it works pretty good. Its not as flawless as my friends DroidX or iPhone but it locs within about 10-15 secs and once its locked it stays locked.
Try different ROMs. I had good experience with FireFly 3.0, Cog 2.2Beta7 or Beta8, CM7.1.
A few of them I could even get a GPS lock indoors. I cant do that with CM7.1 but as long as I'm outside it works very well.
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I've heard people talking about ROMs improving GPS, but that the improvements were temporary. I experienced this, too.
The GPS on the phone when I got it (Eclair) was decent in clear weather. It took a while to lock, but once there, generally stuck. It seriously sucked in cloudy/rainy weather, though. I installed the Paragon RC6 ROM, and the GPS was amazing for a few months. It went to hell really fast, though, getting to the point where it wouldn't even lock outside on a crystal clear day. I restored the phone to stock Eclair hoping the GPS would return to the original state, but it remained practically unusable.
I've heard others say that some ROMs had awesome GPS functionality to start and then ended up being worse than the original. YMMV, but something to keep an eye out for.
this is after many months that I saw any thread about Captivate GPS, i think we captivate users matured enough to deal with crappy gps in our phones.....
I think if you really want good gps buy one of ebay.....just becoz your phone cant use google's Navigation Beta doesnt mean its useless....see the other good thing abt it..
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this is after many months that I saw any thread about Captivate GPS, i think we captivate users matured enough to deal with crappy gps in our phones.....
I think if you really want good gps buy one of ebay.....just becoz your phone cant use google's Navigation Beta doesnt mean its useless....see the other good thing abt it..
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That's exactly what I said, captivate is a great phone if you don't care much about GPS, but that's not my case. I have had several smartphone with GPS in the past and they all worked much better.
I wish I've read a rant like mine before making my decision. Everybody was so "mature" that no one said anything anymore.
I think is normal to be disappointed with Samsung. It seems that is a proven fact that old builds are defective, so it should be much more easier to exchange them. No receipt or warranty needed, free shipping worldwide. But I guess that's not how it works...
viny2cool said:
this is after many months that I saw any thread about Captivate GPS, i think we captivate users matured enough to deal with crappy gps in our phones.....
I think if you really want good gps buy one of ebay.....just becoz your phone cant use google's Navigation Beta doesnt mean its useless....see the other good thing abt it..
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"Matured enough to deal with crappy gps"? Not sure about you, but the Captivate was my first smartphone, and I bought it long before ever finding XDA. I bought it based on specs, the promise of Froyo, and screen quality. It was only after I bought it and got locked into a 2-year contract that I discovered that the GPS sucked. And I had never owned another Android phone, so I had no basis of comparison for how good/bad a phone's GPS should be...except my boss' Droid X, which wasn't an option for me because I didn't care for the screen. The turn-by-turn navigation was one of the features that attracted me to Android over iOS.
I understand the GPS situation NOW, but when I bought the phone a year ago, the box said it had GPS, so I was naturally...um..."disappointed" that it didn't work. I considered it false advertising. I paid a lot of money for the phone..."dealing with a crappy GPS" isn't something I was willing to do for $100 down and $100 a month. That's too much money for a broken phone.
I ultimately got so fed up with it and some other issues that I brought the phone into a device center and got it replaced. GPS is fixed and works much better. Now it's really only the intermittent, ridiculous lag in the phone that gets on my nerves...but I'm much happier when driving in unfamiliar areas.
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You really should rename this thread "Let's bash Samsung"
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This would be funny if Samsung wasnt bashing themselves by releasing a product with broken features. It might be a rant we have all heard before but its still right. While I really do enjoy my captivate, I probably wont buy another Samsung device due to all of the issues.