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Unemployed, in the middle of a job search, and my Tilt succumbs to the RLoD. Yay!
Looks like the only solution is to obtain a replacement phone from AT&T. As a flash-aholic (thanks, Dutty ), I'm really wondering about their replacement policy, as some have mentioned that they'll bill your account for the replacement phone in some cases. (I obviously refuse to pay for a replacement phone when mine is dead after only three months... much less pay full price for a refurb!)
It's been determined that this problem is NOT isolated to reflashed phones; since stock ROMs succumb to it as well, my flashing has nothing to do with the problem. Obviously, I can't flash back to the original ROM because the phone is a brick. However, because it's a brick, they won't know I've flashed a custom ROM until they repair it somehow.
So is the charge billed to my account only as long as it takes for me to return the broken phone? Is it only billed if I fail to return the broken phone? Will it show up down the road when they realize I loaded a custom ROM? (Again - unemployed, so can't afford to pay for another phone anyway.)
Finally, and most importantly - has anyone with the RLoD (or any other phone issue) returned a custom ROM-loaded phone to AT&T? If so, what was your experience?
Thanks so much - using my old Sony Ericsson Z500a for the past week has been ridiculous, and I really want to know if I can make the call to AT&T or not...
ok, well first of all pay attention to the warnings... 3 months old or not when you flashed the different spl, or cooked rom you voided the warranty.. yes the phone could be defective, but any manufacturer can refuse repairs or charge you for the repairs since it was flashed with a non htc/att rom..
As far as the return process... its an advanced type rma in 99% of the cases meaning they will ship you a refurbed unit with the materials needed to ship yours back... if they dont recieve your defective phone within so many days they will charge your account for the replacement(this is to prevent fraud, obviously). I have also heard in some rare cases where people were charged for the replacement after the repair facility notified of an unapproved rom/bootloader on the phone. and in some cases people get away with it...
so its 50/50 shot... i would do everything possible to return it to a stock bootloader and rom before sending back (which in your case you might just have to roll the dice..)
ive exchange many phones and i dont flash to stock roms and ive never had a issue
I was in the exact same position as you about a month ago. I got the RLOD about 4 days into using my tilt and it had been running the HTC stock rom for 3 days, I flashed it the day after I got it.
When the RLOD hit, I was really worried. I was in the 30 day return period, so all I had to do was take it to the store and get a new one. I knew they wouldn't be able to tell in the store, as the consumer and retail end is really non-technical. I was afraid that if they revived the phone at ATT tech or HTC that they would find out.
This said, I built a little contraption at work that hooked up to my 12v car battery and wires into the battery prongs on the tilt. I figured the tilt could handle 12v without catching on fire - it did. However, I'm completely sure they any data will be completely unrecoverable, and the only thing that will salvage is the case. I figured they have no way to call you on a total phone fry, because it could be lots of things that cause that. However, you should have heard the noise it made. I almost made a video, but it was too incriminating. 12v is devastating to a phone, it was cool! I cooked a 600 dollar piece of equipment and got a new one!
That was over a month ago, no word from anyone. Also, I saw on the RLOD post that one user said HTC replaced the whole motherboard as that was the issue - if this is the case I'm sure that all of your old data stored on the ROM in the motherboard goes in the trash as well, as they probably don't take the time to machine re-solder used boards.
Your probably fine, as all RLOD's seem non-relivable. If you want to make a 12v fryer, it's easy. I took a lot of time on mine, because it was fun, but the gist of it is to get a wire from positive to positive and negative to negative from your 12v to your phone. If you do this, please be careful, and DONT touch the wires together because it will cause and arc and melt your prongs - no good. I built a full fryer with a switch and everything, but it was overboard.
My 2 cents.
Also, to avoid this I am sticking with the ATT rom from here on out. It's too risky for something so expensive. I have my phone the exach was it was with the stock HTC minus a few small things. doing a hard reset and pulling the battery before customization works miracles. Almost everything else is available in cabs.
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Also, to avoid this I am sticking with the ATT rom from here on out. It's too risky for something so expensive. I have my phone the exach was it was with the stock HTC minus a few small things. doing a hard reset and pulling the battery before customization works miracles. Almost everything else is available in cabs.
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The AT&T ROM is by far the most boring and least productive IMO. Couldn't you flash to the HTC ROM and be fine under warranty/returns?
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The AT&T ROM is by far the most boring and least productive IMO. Couldn't you flash to the HTC ROM and be fine under warranty/returns?
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It is boring, but when you get rid of bloatware and install the joys that HTC has available its pretty much the same as the stock HTC rom. You can still get the cube and today screen and everything else in cabs.
I think your voiding by hardSPL, not by having the stock HTC ROM. The egg comes before the chicken.
Just a thought...
Does anybody think that there is a correlation between phones being sent back to AT&T with HardSPL still on the device and the fact that HardSPL has not worked on the latest display driver (1.57.00, 1.81.00 and 1.82.00) equipped Kaiser's?
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i would do everything possible to return it to a stock bootloader and rom before sending back (which in your case you might just have to roll the dice..)
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You are correct - I'll have to roll the dice, as there's no way I can return it to stock condition. It won't start.
Thanks for your comments, everyone. So far, I've got:
someone advising that sending it back is a 50/50 chance
someone who has returned several phones with non-stock ROMs without repercussion from AT&T
someone worried enough that they fried the phone completely (awesome!)
So now I only need to hear from one last person: someone who HAS had to pay for a replacement phone from AT&T. For any reason, but specifically because you had a custom ROM on it...
Thanks again, all!
Lol...I've returned 2 tilts to at&t with flashed roms, and I haven't had a problem yet...That's right I'm working on my 3rd tilt since october ^_^ I LOVE AT&T
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Lol...I've returned 2 tilts to at&t with flashed roms, and I haven't had a problem yet...That's right I'm working on my 3rd tilt since october ^_^ I LOVE AT&T
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Thanks. Whulp, guess I'll make the call today then!
How can i get online on my Laptop
with the help of My Phone At&t Tilt ?
is there a cab for it ? or ?
Please Help
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How can i get online on my Laptop
with the help of My Phone At&t Tilt ?
is there a cab for it ? or ?
Please Help
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PLease do not post this question here, this is not related to the topic... please do some more reading or post in the general subfora...
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drokkon said:
Thanks. Whulp, guess I'll make the call today then!
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So made the call yesterday, got the replacement phone today, less than 24 hours from TX to CO. Great customer service, but I couldn't get them to pick up the overnight shipping as some had said I could. $12 ain't bad though.
Hopefully my custom ROM-flashed brick won't do me in for $500, but I'll let y'all know if it does.
*Anxiously awaiting* =subscribed=
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This said, I built a little contraption at work that hooked up to my 12v car battery and wires into the battery prongs on the tilt. I figured the tilt could handle 12v without catching on fire - it did. However, I'm completely sure they any data will be completely unrecoverable, and the only thing that will salvage is the case. I figured they have no way to call you on a total phone fry, because it could be lots of things that cause that. However, you should have heard the noise it made. I almost made a video, but it was too incriminating. 12v is devastating to a phone, it was cool! I cooked a 600 dollar piece of equipment and got a new one!
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I've heard that a few seconds in the microwave can work wonders without the fireworks. Hopefully I'll never have to try that route...
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*Anxiously awaiting* =subscribed=
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Are you bricked too? Or merely curious as to the fate of us cursed few?
In other news, my replacement unit won't stay connected to the cell network. Even when it occasionally shows 4 bars, I can't make or receive calls. OS is sluggish too. Guess I'll flash the radio, maybe the ROM, then maybe send THIS one back too.
Does anyone know if my new IMEI number might affect my phone performance? Meaning, do I have to call AT&T and let them know my new handset's IMEI number?
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Does anyone know if my new IMEI number might affect my phone performance? Meaning, do I have to call AT&T and let them know my new handset's IMEI number?
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Are you bricked too? Or merely curious as to the fate of us cursed few?
In other news, my replacement unit won't stay connected to the cell network. Even when it occasionally shows 4 bars, I can't make or receive calls. OS is sluggish too. Guess I'll flash the radio, maybe the ROM, then maybe send THIS one back too.
Does anyone know if my new IMEI number might affect my phone performance? Meaning, do I have to call AT&T and let them know my new handset's IMEI number?
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You and I have had identical issues! After I got my replacement, I couldn't make or receive calls even with service. It's not the ROM or radio, it's ATT. I had to call and get to a higher level tech, because everyone else told me there were zero problems with my account and that I must have bad reception at my house. I knew for a fact I have full service at home. Whenever I tried to call it would beep 3 times (beep (pause) beepbeep)... after about 2 hours he finally got it to work, but I have no idea what he did. I did have to read him my IMEI about a thousand times though, and he was digging pretty deep to find whatever he got to fix it.
Good luck. Since I had so may issues ATT gave me 25 off my next 2 bills, which was cool.
So I got an OTA update the other day from T-Mobile. Applied the update and the phone rebooted.The phone no longer goes past the T-Mobile G1 screen. I tried troubleshooting myself and explained everything to T-Mobile on the phone to Tech Support. They wanted me to troubleshoot as well. I tried booting into recovery. I tried the home+power and the camera+power and the phone just starts and stops at the T-Mobile G1 screen.i know it's probably bricked but was wondering if anyone had any ideas. I asked tech support if I could get a replacement phone being that my G1 is still under warranty,they said no that the phone had to be returned within 14 days after purchasing it. What's the deal with this crap? Any thoughts and answers are much greatly appreciated!
Well a couple options, take it to the store, call t-mobile and tell them to eat your nuts since it was their software that bricked it or google up the corporate number and ***** and ***** till they agree to a replacement, don't curse or they will hang up on you really quickly
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Well a couple options, take it to the store, call t-mobile and tell them to eat your nuts since it was their software that bricked it or google up the corporate number and ***** and ***** till they agree to a replacement, don't curse or they will hang up on you really quickly
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Yep everything he said, but also what they told you on the phone is crap. T-mo should replace it even after the 14 days. They did for me, just don't take no for an answer.
Your Phone has a one warrenty ... At least thats what I thought????
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Your Phone has a one warrenty ... At least thats what I thought????
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So I got an OTA update the other day from T-Mobile. Applied the update and the phone rebooted.The phone no longer goes past the T-Mobile G1 screen. I tried troubleshooting myself and explained everything to T-Mobile on the phone to Tech Support. They wanted me to troubleshoot as well. I tried booting into recovery. I tried the home+power and the camera+power and the phone just starts and stops at the T-Mobile G1 screen.i know it's probably bricked but was wondering if anyone had any ideas. I asked tech support if I could get a replacement phone being that my G1 is still under warranty,they said no that the phone had to be returned within 14 days after purchasing it. What's the deal with this crap? Any thoughts and answers are much greatly appreciated!
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Sounds like you got a stupid T-mo rep. Call back and tell them your phone is messed up... as long as you bought it directly from them, they will send you a replacement (minus the battery, sim card, and battery cover), and you will send back your phone (minus the aforementioned parts). Done.
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Sounds like you got a stupid T-mo rep. Call back and tell them your phone is messed up... as long as you bought it directly from them, they will send you a replacement (minus the battery, sim card, and battery cover), and you will send back your phone (minus the aforementioned parts). Done.
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true.. make sure you remove your microSD as well.. i had to send back my samsung blast and left an 8gig stick in there... needless to say i was a little upset lol
Haha **** that, I know someone that got 3 [wink wink didn't think you'd like me saying your name] you can get your 1 replaced. Just keep asking do not stop. It's not a piece of chocolate its a $300.00 phone first of all and second of all it was they're update. Good luck!
Nah it's cool, it's no hiding that I am on my 3rd g1, I am not ashamed to say i 've bricked, this way I can say I am making sure someone doesn't repeat mine or anyone elses mistakes.
Also mine were all within the 14 day buyer's remorse. Oh and the cutest on xda, I prefer the most handsome, meanest pimp that has ever pimped on this planet, and I got a mean limp. To the op, keep *****ing if it was their fault, now even you did it on your own and are just covering your ass, it's ok, you are among many who have, but still keep *****ing anyway
I'm guessing you like it now?
*Sorry for the OFF TOPIC. Like way off, like as off as iPhone is to being cool... okay I killed it. ):
Much better, and yeah you didn't just killed it, you ran that **** over, stopped and backed up and than kept riding back and forth over it, thinking you were a dj
Return policy on G1's with warranty
Ok,so I bought the phone from a private individual but the T-mobile software is what actually bricked my G1. I was sad for about a day and am now getting over it slowly. I am currently using my Samsung SGH-t229 which was the free piece o' crap from T-Mobile. Thanks for all the response guys! I really appreciate all the comments and reading all the funny jokes and all. Anyways...if any of you have any ideas on returning the phone let me know. I keep calling T-Mobile and they say I can't return it and get a new one because I bought the phone from a private individual. Any ideas? Hit me up or let me know. TTYL guys!
I've been a happy Captivate owner for about six months now, but am looking to sell it on either eBay or Craigslist. My question is: do you think I would get better value for it if I flashed it back to stock and upgraded it to the stock 2.2, or should I promote it as unlocked with 3G Tethering capability?
Probably worth more if it's unlocked. People are usually afraid to do that sort of thing on their own, and you'll reach a larger group of prospective customers if the phone isn't locked to any single carrier. But, if you really want to make bank on it, you should load up the internal storage with naked chicks and set the default wallpaper to andwobble.
Edit: Here's a thought, maybe you can give the customers a choice in the description? "Your choice of stock 2.2, or carrier unlocked" or something to that effect.
Edit edit: Also, if you're going to sell it unlocked, you should probably test it with a t-mo sim card to be sure it actually works, and mention in your description that you won't be able to get 3g on AWS-band networks (t-mo), just so nobody accuses you of swindling them.
Good point... there's a lot of potential issues if I'm marketing it as unlocked and I probably don't want to support that.
If it's only a difference of $20 or so, maybe I'll just flash back to stock and sell as-is.
Another issue I didn't even think of: since I flashed the ROM I've been having the random shutdown issue. Installing Captivate Keep Alive from the Marketplace solves the problem but at the expense of battery life. Being an honest person, I would probably have to divulge this in the auction post. Or flash it back to stock and test for a couple of weeks and keep my fingers crossed that the random shutdown only happens on Cognition.
look at this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748262
a guy, might have been him, sold a captivate exactly like that one rooted/romed with serendipity(?) sim unlocked for about 325$ on ebay.
Sim unlock is must
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Good point... there's a lot of potential issues if I'm marketing it as unlocked and I probably don't want to support that.
If it's only a difference of $20 or so, maybe I'll just flash back to stock and sell as-is.
Another issue I didn't even think of: since I flashed the ROM I've been having the random shutdown issue. Installing Captivate Keep Alive from the Marketplace solves the problem but at the expense of battery life. Being an honest person, I would probably have to divulge this in the auction post. Or flash it back to stock and test for a couple of weeks and keep my fingers crossed that the random shutdown only happens on Cognition.
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Those potential issues can be alleviated by testing your buddies sims from other carriers in it. That way you can confirm what networks it runs on.
The phone is still under warranty, so you shouldn't be too worried about the shut down,
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Another issue I didn't even think of: since I flashed the ROM I've been having the random shutdown issue. Installing Captivate Keep Alive from the Marketplace solves the problem but at the expense of battery life. Being an honest person, I would probably have to divulge this in the auction post. Or flash it back to stock and test for a couple of weeks and keep my fingers crossed that the random shutdown only happens on Cognition.
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if you have the random shutdown issue, flash to stock then get warranty replacement. only original purchaser with original receipt or contract as proof can get warranty work
then sell the NEW phone AS NEW
duh..
Trusselo said:
if you have the random shutdown issue, flash to stock then get warranty replacement. only original purchaser with original receipt or contract as proof can get warranty work
then sell the NEW phone AS NEW
duh..
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Mine was bought secondhand off Craigslist.
Hi guys,
I am ready to finally get rid of my tmobile wing! I finally made my decision to go with the international version of the SGS. Well, almost, I do have a few questions to owners and US users in particular:
- I would like to know of really bad known issues of the phone. Every phone will have some issues, it is a given, but what I am talking about is issue like the captivate where a lot of people have random shutdwon of their phones. I would like to know if there are any similar issues with the SGS that will prevent basic operation of the phone ( I know about the gps, and I am fine with this problem)
- How is reception, drop calls and call quality on the ATT network, and if someone is in FL, please tell me about your experience.
-I am aware of the fact that the phone has only 1900 Mhz band but I have been looking everywhere for a map that will show where the 850 vs 19000 3G areas are and I cannot find one! so if someone knows where to find one please a link would be great.
Thanks so much in advance for any input.
sure there are owners who can answer at least the first question. Please!
You need to wait for USA ATT owners to read your post .
jje
JJEgan said:
You need to wait for USA ATT owners to read your post .
jje
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Well, I would think any owner could answer my first question. that would be helpful, to make sure I am ok buying the phone. I am in a dire need of a new phone as my current one is falling apart. So if anybody who knows about this phone, it would be nice if they could chime in.
Thanks in advance!
I can't really answer anything about the reception on AT&T, but the problems with the phone there are lockups. It can freeze. But if you flash a custom ROM onto the thing, it runs like a dreaaam.
I have been bugged by the lagging on the first week i got the phone. managed to apply the lagfix and seem to be doing great so far. I'm planning to wait for official gingerbread from kies. Still afraid of flashing though.
Yeah dunno much how to answer your questions tho. but yeah, SGS is the best phone yet i ever had.
I've got the international i9000. From last August till now, I haven't had any problems. I put this down to 2 things, one good fortune ,and secondly it's unbranded and unlocked from new. The phone has gotten better with each firmware upgrade and now on 2.2.1 even if gingerbread wasn't coming my phones just fantastic and it's quick. The phone apparently can be rapid when its on gingerbread listening to the lads on XDA and some say it takes care of the only thing Ican say negatively about the phone, which is the battery life, and personally, (The lads on here probably know better.) I put that down almost entirely to system spyware,as three hours of internet knocks mine down to 48%, and even with all syncs turned off and all apps taken out except the sammy key board every so often all the g***l* stuff restarts itself in one form or another and you can see the little green and red data arrows active. AS a phone, I believe with this next official update coming, allowing for the gs2, allowing for it not having a camera flash, this is the best phone money can buy, yes there are dual core phones, yes a few more pixels, even yes, I'll probably at some point get the sg2, but not because it's needed , it's just what we do, after all we come to this site with the others because we like phones. Hope this helps in some way.
If you read around the forums, you'll find a lot of great things about this phone. I couldn't be happier with mine really. Reception is never a problem for me though I'm in Canada. Some people claim they have GPS problems, but there are several fixes that can help you improve/overcome those problems. They claim are that they can't lock enough/any satellites on their GPS system to get a reading, but after using GPS test app to learn a bit about the best way to detect a signal it works like a charm for me . You won't regret it, although I would probably look into a SGSII if it were me.
If you are going to be on AT&T why don't you buy the i9000m
Most of the issues in the phone have been down to bad firmware by the carriers and also a silly design decision from Samsung with regards to file systems on earlier firmwares.
Running 2.1 firmware the phone was slow as heck and my GPS which was set to Autonomous mode would take sometimes up to 5 minutes to get a fix. A simple setting change gets GPS lock within a few seconds. Also with each firmware release the phone has gotten faster and faster.
Also if you're a tinkerer then this phone is a dream. It's hard to brick, often recoverable if you make an error, and some of the well tuned ROMs on these boards are absolute rocketships for speed.
Thanks guys! You gave me great input. I will have to make a decision, but this will help me greatly.
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If you are going to be on AT&T why don't you buy the i9000m
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Don't they have a problem with this phone on some interal SD card failure? Is this something that only applies to the I9000m and not the international version?
Free ram available in this device is quite low, I had an European hd2 with 448 mb ram but it always had more free ram than my i9000 which has 512mb(almost double)... more free ram means it can do multitasking better, apparently do not need to be closed ects
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Just found a SGS I9000T on amazon for $445, do you guys think it is a good deal?
[Tutorial][Bell Atrix]What need to be done before Warranty Service?
It applies all the Bell Atrix, doesn’t matter you have Orange FR 2.1.1 or UK 2.2.3 on the phone or whatever
Simple Version:
Make sure you have CWM Recovery on it(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1019143)
Download the stock system.img (http://www.multiupload.com/T6L5RS2WH1), if you have the backup by nandroid, you can skip this step
Enter CWM Recovery to restore system.img only, then do Wipe out Data&Cache, or Force Close will be with you!
Install GingerBreak to root your phone, you can download from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765
Install CMW Recovery again, but this time, choose CHARGE MODE in order to uninstall the custom recovery
Use GingerBreak to un-root the phone
Do a factory again, then you are ready to throw this phone to any Bell Retail Store for repair
Just remind that Bell will take 4~6weeks to get your phone fixed, if you need a loaner phone, it’s $25+tax, ask before borrow since some store doesn’t even have smartphone to lend…
Full Detail Version coming soon...
Thanks, good tut to have.
Stock Bell Atrix on Rogers with updated radio, Rooted, deodexed, Honeycomb theme, and frozen!
With glad root and webtop mod on stock firmware would it be ok to just return the stock web top files and unrooted for warranty?
Why wouldn't you just a sbfflash...?
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Why wouldn't you just a sbfflash...?
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Because there is no Bell SBF available (to date)
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Because there is no Bell SBF available (to date)
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Yes, but in your tutorial you're just removing root access and custom recovery. You're not changing the firmware from the phone back to 0.3.7 (Bell firmware) because there isn't a Bell SBF to flash (you're right about that). If one was already running 2.1.1 or 2.2.3 with root access, they could simply reflash their respective SBF's and it would produce the same results as your tutorial. Maybe I'm missing something from your guide, but as far as I understand, once you've flashed a different SBF, there is no way of getting back to official Bell. Your guide seems to be a roundabout way to get back to stock 2.1.1 or 2.2.3 for warranty purposes, while a simple reflash would produce the same results.
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Yes, but in your tutorial you're just removing root access and custom recovery. You're not changing the firmware from the phone back to 0.3.7 (Bell firmware) because there isn't a Bell SBF to flash (you're right about that). If one was already running 2.1.1 or 2.2.3 with root access, they could simply reflash their respective SBF's and it would produce the same results as your tutorial. Maybe I'm missing something from your guide, but as far as I understand, once you've flashed a different SBF, there is no way of getting back to official Bell. Your guide seems to be a roundabout way to get back to stock 2.1.1 or 2.2.3 for warranty purposes, while a simple reflash would produce the same results.
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absolutely true.
best chances for full repair is flash stock SBF 2.2.3 and then if you really wanna get technical, simply edit your prop file for cosmetic purposes.
NFHimself has this crazy way of flashing close to stock images but thats pretty much retarded as there's no point as it really doesnt mean any closer to stock than this crap and is fickle/easy to detect as it is if Motorola was looking for it.
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Yes, but in your tutorial you're just removing root access and custom recovery. You're not changing the firmware from the phone back to 0.3.7 (Bell firmware) because there isn't a Bell SBF to flash (you're right about that). If one was already running 2.1.1 or 2.2.3 with root access, they could simply reflash their respective SBF's and it would produce the same results as your tutorial. Maybe I'm missing something from your guide, but as far as I understand, once you've flashed a different SBF, there is no way of getting back to official Bell. Your guide seems to be a roundabout way to get back to stock 2.1.1 or 2.2.3 for warranty purposes, while a simple reflash would produce the same results.
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You are right, however stock system.img(from original bell firmware, not 2.1.1 or 2.2.3) already has the right prop file and bell bloatware, comparing 2.1.1 or 2.2.3, im too lazy to look for bloatware and changing by root. this seems the easiest way for me.
other than the radio version, i dont think motorola could find out this is flashed Atrix but anyway, I am still waiting for my atrix back
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I work for bell. and all I have to say about this thread is that it should be closed and deleted. I actually thought these kind of guides were frowned upon...
If the phone was working 100% before you starting screwing with it, we shouldn't have to honor your warranty. Thats why ROOTING VOIDS Warranty.
If you screw up your windows load, Best buy doesn't say, heres a new pc. They say, here's a bill for the techie. We work on commission in these stores, and i hate wasting my time with some moron who shouldnt have screwed with what he couldn't fix. /rant
Its annoying to deal with people who brick their phones, and then give bs excuses as to why its not working. I usually do my best to help people, but its better to tell us the truth and have us help, then lie through your teeth that its a problem with the device.
It costs me extra hours of work to deal with DOA phones, and it costs everyone including motorola tons of $$$ for stuff that is screwed up by the consumer.
Why can't the people who don't know what theyre doing, leave the dangerous stuff to the guys who know how to fix their own problems?
Edit: the exception to this is true hardware issues. But those don't seem to come up all too often with this phone, just battery life issues.
But thats the thing if you brick your device, this guide won't help as the phone is a brick.
As for hardware issues, this is the exact reason for this thread IMHO, something useful to me as my fingerprint reader is slightliy off physically which results in the device thinking that fast swipes are taking place when they are not. now I can use this when I am ready to take my device in without being harrassed about software.
With my N1 even with the bootloader unlocked they still took in the device if it was proven to be a hardware defect (again had a problem with my power button - just my luck i guess) Doubt bell would do the same.
binary110 said:
I work for bell. and all I have to say about this thread is that it should be closed and deleted. I actually thought these kind of guides were frowned upon...
If the phone was working 100% before you starting screwing with it, we shouldn't have to honor your warranty. Thats why ROOTING VOIDS Warranty.
If you screw up your windows load, Best buy doesn't say, heres a new pc. They say, here's a bill for the techie. We work on commission in these stores, and i hate wasting my time with some moron who shouldnt have screwed with what he couldn't fix. /rant
Its annoying to deal with people who brick their phones, and then give bs excuses as to why its not working. I usually do my best to help people, but its better to tell us the truth and have us help, then lie through your teeth that its a problem with the device.
It costs me extra hours of work to deal with DOA phones, and it costs everyone including motorola tons of $$$ for stuff that is screwed up by the consumer.
Why can't the people who don't know what theyre doing, leave the dangerous stuff to the guys who know how to fix their own problems?
Edit: the exception to this is true hardware issues. But those don't seem to come up all too often with this phone, just battery life issues.
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who would use this for anything other than a hardware issue? anyone who can follow this guide can also follow a SBF flash instruction to solve their software issues
binary110 said:
I work for bell. and all I have to say about this thread is that it should be closed and deleted. I actually thought these kind of guides were frowned upon...
If the phone was working 100% before you starting screwing with it, we shouldn't have to honor your warranty. Thats why ROOTING VOIDS Warranty.
If you screw up your windows load, Best buy doesn't say, heres a new pc. They say, here's a bill for the techie. We work on commission in these stores, and i hate wasting my time with some moron who shouldnt have screwed with what he couldn't fix. /rant
Its annoying to deal with people who brick their phones, and then give bs excuses as to why its not working. I usually do my best to help people, but its better to tell us the truth and have us help, then lie through your teeth that its a problem with the device.
It costs me extra hours of work to deal with DOA phones, and it costs everyone including motorola tons of $$$ for stuff that is screwed up by the consumer.
Why can't the people who don't know what theyre doing, leave the dangerous stuff to the guys who know how to fix their own problems?
Edit: the exception to this is true hardware issues. But those don't seem to come up all too often with this phone, just battery life issues.
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QFT, but......we are referring to hardware isssues here, not software.......and rooting has nothing to do with that.
Sent from my Blue Myst GladiAtrix on Bell using the XDA Premium App.
I agree, its totally cool for hardware issues, but i'm thinking about the guys who have the lower half of the touch screen not working because they screwed the software up. 9/10 issues with any smartphone is software related.
binary110 said:
I agree, its totally cool for hardware issues, but i'm thinking about the guys who have the lower half of the touch screen not working because they screwed the software up. 9/10 issues with any smartphone is software related.
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since no one seems to be able to replicate this issue (to my knowledge) that would imply that it IS hardware related and not software
Rediculous
binary110 Your completly in the dark if you think this phone or any other smartphone wont have defects and hardware malfunctions.
My Atrix has wicked bad screen response when plugged into any power source with stock charger or other... im not returning mine as this is a minor issue. Although my roomates cant hold gps, drops calls constantly, misses calls and msgs for lack of signal and has constant reboots since stock with only root to obtain webtop mod.
So according to your logic he dosent deserve to have his 500+ $ phone replaced cuz it will cost motorola money and your lazy ass some commision ??
THIS IS THE WRONG FORUM FOR YOU !
binary110 Your completly in the dark if you think this phone or any other smartphone wont have defects and hardware malfunctions.
My Atrix has wicked bad screen response when plugged into any power source with stock charger or other... im not returning mine as this is a minor issue. Although my roomates cant hold gps, drops calls constantly, misses calls and msgs for lack of signal and has constant reboots since stock with only root to obtain webtop mod.
So according to your logic he dosent deserve to have his 500+ $ phone replaced cuz it will cost motorola money and your lazy ass some commision ??
THIS IS THE WRONG FORUM FOR YOU !
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I never said the phone was not capable of being defective. I said that when someone brings it in for an issue that they caused themselves. The phones are more often screwed up by a customer, than they are actually defective.
90% of the charger issues are from using a charger different than the motorola one that came with the phone. Especially the ones with the screen response. I noted it on my atrix as well. I also have replaced a customers phone for this.
This IS a valid reason to replace the phone.
But this is also easily noticeable BEFORE you go through the process of rooting/modding the phone. and as such, you should take it up with the place your purchased it before modding it.
Its like buying a car, ripping the engine apart right away. only to find that it runs like crap after you've ripped it apart... You probably should have done a test drive before purchasing. Do you understand what i mean?
Furthermore, your friend has a legitimate issue, I'm talking about people who brick their phones and play stupid. As well, I can tell you're a part of the generation who feels they're entitled to everything under the sun from the carrier you deal with. Yet, no cable company fixes your damn television. And especially not if you screw it up yourself.
Its not apples to apples, in the sense that the cable company doesn't subsidize your tv. but even if you got a tv as a promotion through them, they'd send you to the manufacturer. Which is what i'd prefer to do with people who do stupid stuff and want it fixed.
Don't act like my time isnt worth money just because youre a needy consumer. What i'm saying is just man up, tell us you screwed it up, and we will do everything we can help.
For you to be trolling the way that you are, its obvious that this ISNT THE FORUM FOR YOU.
Thank you.
By the way, Watch your language on the forums.
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absolutely true.
best chances for full repair is flash stock SBF 2.2.3 and then if you really wanna get technical, simply edit your prop file for cosmetic purposes.
NFHimself has this crazy way of flashing close to stock images but thats pretty much retarded as there's no point as it really doesnt mean any closer to stock than this crap and is fickle/easy to detect as it is if Motorola was looking for it.
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Uhm, what? How did I get dragged into this PMS fest?
Ridiculous.
Be nice guys... We are all Canadian, we love peace, don't we?!
In my case, my touchscreen's digitalize is 100% broken, it's either hypersensitive or non-sensitive at all... It happened on Bell Stock rom but I was trying to flash sfb to see if it could be fixed...
Unfortunately, i got my repair back today and still the same issue, i asked the bell staff to try the touchscreen and she said the phone is not boot up properly...
Oh well, after 90s, I ask her to try again, she clicked "BACK" 10 times in order to get back, and 5 times to run Bell Self-serve
well, I really unsatisfied with the result and I had to left the phone there and waiting for another 2 weeks, AGAIN!!!
I have 3yr contract with Bell so it has to waste time and money to get my phone fixed cuz its carelessness and impatience are wasting my money and time... The $30 loaner phone sucks and cannot even been changed...
well, looks like a little away from the topic but I've just out of the store...
even according to the repair menu, the bell stock sbf has been applied on and change of the part which i know its not the digitalize, the phone is still unusable...
AT&T users are lucky since they have their own stock sbf to flash when they wanna a repair but poor Bell users they have to use those tutorials like mine to do repair, OR UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER AND I WONT ASK FOR WARRANTY
btw, maybe that's the reason why Apple is cool, they can get your iPhone replaced in maximum 60min not 60days even there is just a dust in screen
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Uhm, what? How did I get dragged into this PMS fest?
Ridiculous.
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see what you caused?
jk
I understand where binary was coming from but again this thread isn't for that reason. At the same time I bet we can all say we wish carriers like bell and rogers were completely full of staff like you that come with the line we will do whatever we can to help. most times reps come off as just going through the motions or looking for whatever reason to close the case.