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Hi,
I followed the CM6 thread quite closely, however I did not want to hijack that thread for my purposes.
It seems that the latest build of CM6 does not support Apps2SD anymore. I used to flash Cyanogens Mods on my G1 / Dream since ages, and all of them supported Apps2SD. Maybe someone could elaborate a little on my questions to help me understand the latest developments:
1. Is there any particular reason why CM6 does not support Apps2SD anymore (maybe performance or stability issues)?
2. Won't that mean that the G1 will immediately run out of memory, as the internal memory is that small (this was actually the reason why I decided to root my device)?
Thanks in advance for helping out. I just don't really get it and think I won't flash CM6 until there is a solution...
Best regards,
Becksman
Becksman said:
Hi,
I followed the CM6 thread quite closely, however I did not want to hijack that thread for my purposes.
It seems that the latest build of CM6 does not support Apps2SD anymore. I used to flash Cyanogens Mods on my G1 / Dream since ages, and all of them supported Apps2SD. Maybe someone could elaborate a little on my questions to help me understand the latest developments:
1. Is there any particular reason why CM6 does not support Apps2SD anymore (maybe performance or stability issues)?
2. Won't that mean that the G1 will immediately run out of memory, as the internal memory is that small (this was actually the reason why I decided to root my device)?
Thanks in advance for helping out. I just don't really get it and think I won't flash CM6 until there is a solution...
Best regards,
Becksman
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Apps2SD will be there in 6.1......That's been communicated.....
Right now Firerat has build an script which does the JOB, I have a dream and using apps2sd with CM6....
Search the thread or XDA and you will get all the info....
FroYo, that CM6 is based on, has it's own implementation, often referred to as Apps2FAT. Cyanogen, and others, have stated that something resembling the CM4/5 Apps2Ext will be in the next release of CM.
Thanks for the replys so far. I was aware that an implementation of Apps2SD in CM6.1 is planned. I know as well that there is a workaround with firerat's patch.
I just tried to understand what's different with CM6 in comparison to CM5. I thought: hey, maybe with CM6 there's a good reason why apps2SD is not supported anymore. Maybe there's an alternative to apps2SD which works more reliable (not that it didn't with apps2SD on CM5). If so, I would have been willing to reinstall my apps and use the new system.
If there's no reason not to use apps2SD in CM6 then I'll consider updating. Either now, applying firerat's patch, or in some time when CM6.1 is out...
Best regards,
Becksman
it is Apps2SD, but it is saving the data to the FAT32 partition, rather than the EXT partition we are used to. one limitation I've discovered was by installing desktop widgets on the external. when the OS booted up, none of the widgets loaded.
I suspect the reason CM6.0 doesn't have Apps2Ext is threefold.
FroYo has something similar built-in. Therefore, users have a solution to the underlying problem w/out a custom CM solution. (problems w/ that implementation notwithstanding)
A polished solution would have to integrate with the FroYo solution in some way. This takes extra work.
Getting FroYo running solidly was a huge effort of it's own. TeamDouche expanded the number of supported devices by a huge number. They integrated the completely new build system Google released with FroYo. Adding another feature, especially in light of #1 and #2 above, would have delayed the release without real merit.
Thanks for the clarifications.
So I guess I'll stick with Apps2Ext. Though I guess I'll have to wait until CM6.1 is out, as I really don't have the time right now to keep myself busy playing with my phone and try to make everything work.
Thanks again for your effort - what a wonderful forum.
Regards,
Becksman
Has anyone succesfully gotten flash to work with honeycomb?
From what I understand it works with froyo. so why not HC?
WOW, did you even try to read before asking ?
Simple search might have lead you here.
Google search may have lead you here.
As well as some results on other Android related forums. No one's gotten Flash 10.1 to work on Eclair 2.1 on the Nook - and since the HC Preview is based on a modified stock 2.1 kernel as mentioned in the first link it won't work.
Now others have gotten flash 10.1 to work on Eclair on other devices. So maybe it's possible. But we're all basically waiting for Flash 10.2 and/or the HC AOSP.
If you need Flash you have to go with one of the FroYo or Gingerbread options.
10.1 is usless. Waiting 10.2.
Hello all,
just got m nook color and don't fully want to mod internal software quite yet and was looking for a bootable sd version of ginger bread like CM& and couldn't find one.
Found the one for honeycomb but not gingerbread.
Anyone know if there is even one for the sd bootable where don't touch internal software.
Thanks again.
Unfortunately at this time there is no SD bootable version of CM7. I am learning how all the stuff works and hope to make one soon but I have no time line for the project as I am not a developer and don't know if I will ultimately have time to make it. If I do get one do look for it in the dev board, but again, no promises and please do not bombard my PMs or the forums with 'when is it coming' messages.
Really, that would by nice. But the bootables have some speed issues.
I am constructing a dualboot rooted Eclair / CM7 gingerbread, based on multipliable thread posts and the work of the great devs here. Some seem to run this daily. I hope I can get it up and running too.
Speed issues aside alot of people, myself included, do not necessarily want to flash their MMC for a variety of reasons but still want to be able to run the neat stuff. I have my NC rooted and tons of stuff installed with no reboot issues and the like so that my main reason for trying to create a CM7 SD.
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Hi all,
What CM7 builds do you use on internal?
How is HC?
Which has more working?
Usually the ROMs that are packaged as a .zip you flash in clockwork mod and other roms would be in a different file type (.tar, .img, xxx.gz, etc) for loading onto an microSD card. (let me know if you need help with either)
Phiremod Nook v5.2 (Runs Gingerbread, 2.3.3) is a great rom built off the Cyanogenmod Nightly 32 (latest nightly as of right now) that includes new features such as an OC kernel and new animations.
Here are the Cyanogenmod Nightlies, the latest nightlies are posted there (don't forget to get GAPPS!)
There are some roms that you can run off of the SD card, while I haven't run a ROM off the SD card personally, I have heard against it as it apparently makes the device very slow as the system is bottlenecked constantly by the SD card during read and writes.
As for honeycomb, Google has NOT released the source publicly YET. The ROMs currently available (I believe) are built off the code from the emulator, resulting in slow performance and extra drawbacks (In fact, here is a list of issues from a popular Honeycomb rom...)
Issues:
- Many apps don't work.
- Talk may disconnect sometimes, you'll have to make sure you time settings are correct (don't use automatic setting). You can also try changing time, Force close Talk and launch it again. Sorry for this..
- Location won't work. This is a preview, supposed to be working on a Virtual emulator. Only Mock locations work. If you're adventurous, try enabling mock locations in settings, installing 'Android developer shell' on NC, enabling telnet server in app, and using:
- geo gpsSpoofer start
- geo gpsSpoofer fix [latitude] [longitude]
(geo -help if you have trouble with commands.)
You'll have a working spoofed location. Reboot will erase it..
- Other issues, I'll update if required. I've struggled to get other apps working. But without HC's source, it's pretty much impossible..
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This rom (titled by the topic title as "CM7 with Honeycomb features", has lots of potentially great (haven't seen it myself, I'm sure they have done/are doing an amazing job ) work done by samuelhalff and mad-murdock) looks incredibly promising, it's being fixed up and finalized for a major release very soon. As some apps do not work with Honeycomb for the Nook Color, this should be THE rom as it will have the compatibility and speed of Gingerbread with much needed benefits from Honeycomb. I, and surely many others, will definitely be switching to this rom upon release.
(Someone please correct me if anything I said is incorrect, thank you!)
ateld said:
Usually the ROMs that are packaged as a .zip you flash in clockwork mod and other roms would be in a different file type (.tar, .img, xxx.gz, etc) for loading onto an microSD card. (let me know if you need help with either)
Phiremod Nook v5.2 (Runs Gingerbread, 2.3.3) is a great rom built off the Cyanogenmod Nightly 32 (latest nightly as of right now) that includes new features such as an OC kernel and new animations.
Here are the Cyanogenmod Nightlies, the latest nightlies are posted there (don't forget to get GAPPS!)
There are some roms that you can run off of the SD card, while I haven't run a ROM off the SD card personally, I have heard against it as it apparently makes the device very slow as the system is bottlenecked constantly by the SD card during read and writes.
As for honeycomb, Google has NOT released the source publicly YET. The ROMs currently available (I believe) are built off the code from the emulator, resulting in slow performance and extra drawbacks (In fact, here is a list of issues from a popular Honeycomb rom...)
This rom (titled by the topic title as "CM7 with Honeycomb features", has lots of potentially great (haven't seen it myself, I'm sure they have done/are doing an amazing job ) work done by samuelhalff and mad-murdock) looks incredibly promising, it's being fixed up and finalized for a major release very soon. As some apps do not work with Honeycomb for the Nook Color, this should be THE rom as it will have the compatibility and speed of Gingerbread with much needed benefits from Honeycomb. I, and surely many others, will definitely be switching to this rom upon release.
(Someone please correct me if anything I said is incorrect, thank you!)
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thanks. I will just ticket with homey cm7 extras for now
ateld said:
Usually the ROMs that are packaged as a .zip you flash in clockwork mod and other roms would be in a different file type (.tar, .img, xxx.gz, etc) for loading onto an microSD card. (let me know if you need help with either)
Phiremod Nook v5.2 (Runs Gingerbread, 2.3.3) is a great rom built off the Cyanogenmod Nightly 32 (latest nightly as of right now) that includes new features such as an OC kernel and new animations.
Here are the Cyanogenmod Nightlies, the latest nightlies are posted there (don't forget to get GAPPS!)
There are some roms that you can run off of the SD card, while I haven't run a ROM off the SD card personally, I have heard against it as it apparently makes the device very slow as the system is bottlenecked constantly by the SD card during read and writes.
As for honeycomb, Google has NOT released the source publicly YET. The ROMs currently available (I believe) are built off the code from the emulator, resulting in slow performance and extra drawbacks (In fact, here is a list of issues from a popular Honeycomb rom...)
This rom (titled by the topic title as "CM7 with Honeycomb features", has lots of potentially great (haven't seen it myself, I'm sure they have done/are doing an amazing job ) work done by samuelhalff and mad-murdock) looks incredibly promising, it's being fixed up and finalized for a major release very soon. As some apps do not work with Honeycomb for the Nook Color, this should be THE rom as it will have the compatibility and speed of Gingerbread with much needed benefits from Honeycomb. I, and surely many others, will definitely be switching to this rom upon release.
(Someone please correct me if anything I said is incorrect, thank you!)
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Thanks for this. I've had my Nook rooted for awhile, but just this week decided to try some other ROMs. I never tried Phiremod, but the CM7 with Honeycomb features is great. I had tried Honeycomb and really liked it, but the features in CM7 are better overall (especially flash and video playback).
So I bought my gf a nook. I am in a weird dilemma on what to install. She wants to do it on her own and finds the default OS on it boring. She needed a tablet. I installed Nookie Froyo which boots from the SD card. I think that may slow down the OS. So heres a quesition break down.
Whats the most reliable ROM? (I think FroYo will be a good OS choice)
What method should I use? Should I make her dual boot?
And anyone wanna warn me about some things?
Shes gonna be doing it all herself while I guide her. And I aint a newbie. Have an Archos 101 and I hang out in the Gen8 forums. Hi tho
Use CM7. It is the best rom out there by far.
If she doesn't like the stock rom then i wouldn't bother with a dual boot.
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SilentRazor said:
So I bought my gf a nook. I am in a weird dilemma on what to install. She wants to do it on her own and finds the default OS on it boring. She needed a tablet. I installed Nookie Froyo which boots from the SD card. I think that may slow down the OS. So heres a quesition break down.
Whats the most reliable ROM? (I think FroYo will be a good OS choice)
What method should I use? Should I make her dual boot?
And anyone wanna warn me about some things?
Shes gonna be doing it all herself while I guide her. And I aint a newbie. Have an Archos 101 and I hang out in the Gen8 forums. Hi tho
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Someone else may be able to give you more information about the Froyo ROMs available for the nook color.. I personally don't have any experience with them so I can't really contrast the difference between it and the other AOSP ROMS available.
I've had the best experience with the CM7 Gingerbread Roms for the nook color. I'm currently running the 147 Nightly build and I've had no issues with it thus far.
The reason I decided on CM7 over the other available roms mainly stems from the community based around that rom for the nook color. They are actively putting out nightly builds with fixes every few days. As you can see by there nightly repo here http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?type=nightly&device=encore CM7 is a very snappy rom with bluetooth support as well as usb device support in the works as well, I'd recommend you go with it.
As for method I personally just put it on the device itself. Running roms from a MicroSD card tends to be more of a hassle than its worth in my opinion. You've gotta make sure your MicroSD card has a high data rate or your system will be noticeably slowed down. The only time I'd recommend that is if you absolutely love the default nook interface. But from what you stated it seems like she doesn't even care for it.
I don't really have any warnings aside from following directions while rooting. Although if you've already rooted the stock rom via a MicroSD in CWR you can backup your stock, wipe cache/partition and install CM7 and gapps and be good to go. If you do go that route and install the rom to the nook itself make sure you update Rom Manager once your in CM7, you can then flash cwr to the nook so you don't have to have it on a MicroSD every time you want to update your rom.
CM7 it is. Thanks guys. Now I gotta make a step by step guide
Step by Step : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11452450&postcount=19
NOTE: Skip Step 6 on new nightlies
You might want to hold off for a couple of days. Looks like the next nightly (150?) will have an updated kernel.
w8wca said:
Step by Step : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11452450&postcount=19
NOTE: Skip Step 6 on new nightlies
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Thanks, I figured.
patruns said:
You might want to hold off for a couple of days. Looks like the next nightly (150?) will have an updated kernel.
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I doubt she can wait lol
Thank you all for the answers. I got CM7 installed on it =]
Give miui a try, I ran the cm7 nightlies for a couple months and all in its a great rom after you make a few tweaks most importantly to me the LCD density.
Once I saw that miui was released for the nook color I tried it out and don't think ill go back to cm7. Its actually based off the cm7 nightlies but the whole ui is modified and think its alot easier to use for someone that is familiar with android a whole lot.
I could go on but do yourself a favor and give it a try.
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I have tried almost every ROM for the NC. I would go with CM7, or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=947071, which has been just as stable for me. If you like the Honeycomb interface, use that.
+1 for CM7... fan-freakin-tastic. Use the "Size-Agnostic..." steps to install to an SD card. There's another sticky for installing to emmc (internal memory). The SD path is nice because you can take the card out and reboot to stock, but I found emmc way more stable personally, plus you don't have to worry about having a bad sd card, etc.
CM7 for sure. Real nice, fast, and stable.
I personally use cm7, but you might want to try miui for her.
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SCrid2000 said:
I personally use cm7, but you might want to try miui for her.
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Without dragging this out too much, what are the specific benefits of miui. Or better yet, what does it give you that you cannot get with the regular CM7 and some tweaks?
patruns said:
Without dragging this out too much, what are the specific benefits of miui. Or better yet, what does it give you that you cannot get with the regular CM7 and some tweaks?
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It's a different design, very iOS-esque.
Like I said, I myself prefer CM7, but since you're setting it up for her I figured she might like somthing that's a little simpler.
Just try it, not like it's hard to flash a rom lol
miui??
. found info on it.
Phiremod 6.3 seems the most reliable on my nook.
shutyourface said:
Phiremod 6.3 seems the most reliable on my nook.
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Phiemod is just a themed outdated version of CM7.
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