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[Q] Serendipity 5.12 or Cognition 4.1.1

I know this gets asked a lot, but I have a question that I think might be a little different.
Right now I have an AT&T Captivate Running FROYO.UCKB1
I was going to flash Cog4 today but I just realized that the MobleTechVid Gingerbread theme would not work with that ROM. Ever since I saw Josh's vid on his theme, I have wanted it!
I just ran across his Serendipity ROM review and it looks like it has most if not all of the Gingerbread theme built into it.
Basically, I have told myself to skip the Cog4 and just do the Serendipity ROM, but I guess I just wanted a 3rd party endorsement of that decision.
I do need my phone to be 100% usable and reliable as I use it for work, which is why I was leaning toward the COG4 ROM (stability). I can not give up usability/stability for pretty graphics.
On a side note, from what I have read here, it seems as if I need to use Odin to flash back to 2.1 before flashing a custom ROM (via ClockWorkMod). I am fine with that, but I was just wondering if, since UCKB1 came out, anyone has developed a way to flash a ROM with out having to go backwards first.
Thanks!

If you like kb1 cognition is the sane exact thing. If you want something different flash serendipity
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I just flashed this rom on my captivate. So far it is working flawlessy.
I was also on 2.2 Froyo, and used Odin to go back to stock. It's seems like a useless step, but i did it. It only takes a few minutes and for safety sake it's better to do it right just in case.
Josh has awesome vids. I don't think i would have done it this quickly if i had to use some of the others that i've watched.
Josh=

Cognition was my first ROM from stock. It worked well as advertised. And like yourself, I wanted stability over anything else. Its great for being close to stock, with running more smoothly, and had a few extra features. Then I decided to try Serendipity. Serendipity has much more added features and is much more customizable, while at the same time, still provides stability. In my experiences, I would put Serendipity in the middle between Cognition and other roms like Andromeda, which is even more themed than Serendipity. IMO, Serendipity is the happy medium between the stock experience and flashy themed roms. It seems like you already did your research on how to flash, so I would say give Serendipty a try. If its too much or not what you are looking for, go back to Cognition. But it seems like the developers of Cognition (designgears) are straying away from Captivate development, as they already discontinued their other rom, Perception.

cavsoldier19d said:
Cognition was my first ROM from stock. It worked well as advertised. And like yourself, I wanted stability over anything else. Its great for being close to stock, with running more smoothly, and had a few extra features. Then I decided to try Serendipity. Serendipity has much more added features and is much more customizable, while at the same time, still provides stability. In my experiences, I would put Serendipity in the middle between Cognition and other roms like Andromeda, which is even more themed than Serendipity. IMO, Serendipity is the happy medium between the stock experience and flashy themed roms. It seems like you already did your research on how to flash, so I would say give Serendipty a try. If its too much or not what you are looking for, go back to Cognition. But it seems like the developers of Cognition (designgears) are straying away from Captivate development, as they already discontinued their other rom, Perception.
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actually, your concept of Andromeda is wrong. Andromeda is first and foremost a 'stock' experience and there is a version that is heavily themed....

mthayer1 said:
I just flashed this rom on my captivate. So far it is working flawlessy.
I was also on 2.2 Froyo, and used Odin to go back to stock. It's seems like a useless step, but i did it. It only takes a few minutes and for safety sake it's better to do it right just in case.
Josh has awesome vids. I don't think i would have done it this quickly if i had to use some of the others that i've watched.
Josh=
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When you say "this rom" do you mean Serendipity or Cognition?
From what I have read, you have to flash back to 2.1 if you are using ClockWorkMod to flash your new ROM because 2.1 and 2.2 use different recovery modes and ClockWork will not work with the recovery mode that 2.2 uses (I think it is 2e that 2.1 and ClockWork use and 3e that 2.2 uses).
2 more questions. What would hapen if I just put the ROM .zip on the root of phone, named it update.zip, rebooted into recovery, and "reinstalled packages"? Wouldn't this flash the ROM w/o using ClockWork and therefore not having to flash back to 2.1?
When I used Kies to go from 2.1 to 2.2 that seemed to be what it did and it kept all my aps, SMS, phone log, and all my other settings (home screens and widgets had to be reset). I do understand the "best" way is to return to out of box stock and then flash, but then there is a lot to re-setup...
Last thing. The only thing about the Gingerbread theme that I don't want is the orange color when you press an on screen button. I prefer the blue color that I have now with 2.2. Is there an "easy" way to change it from the orange back to blue in Serendipity?
Thanks for helping this newb!

bobapunk said:
When you say "this rom" do you mean Serendipity or Cognition?
From what I have read, you have to flash back to 2.1 if you are using ClockWorkMod to flash your new ROM because 2.1 and 2.2 use different recovery modes and ClockWork will not work with the recovery mode that 2.2 uses (I think it is 2e that 2.1 and ClockWork use and 3e that 2.2 uses).
2 more questions. What would hapen if I just put the ROM .zip on the root of phone, named it update.zip, rebooted into recovery, and "reinstalled packages"? Wouldn't this flash the ROM w/o using ClockWork and therefore not having to flash back to 2.1?
When I used Kies to go from 2.1 to 2.2 that seemed to be what it did and it kept all my aps, SMS, phone log, and all my other settings (home screens and widgets had to be reset). I do understand the "best" way is to return to out of box stock and then flash, but then there is a lot to re-setup...
Last thing. The only thing about the Gingerbread theme that I don't want is the orange color when you press an on screen button. I prefer the blue color that I have now with 2.2. Is there an "easy" way to change it from the orange back to blue in Serendipity?
Thanks for helping this newb!
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first of all, NO you cannot just name a rom zip update.zip and flash from stock 3e recovery....3e recovery does not allow unsigned zip files to run on it...thats why you have to either flash back to 2.1 or root and use the unsigned 3e recovery mod
it doesnt matter if you return to stock 2.1 or not, when you flash a new rom, you will lose your setup....it wipes the phone except for your internal and external sd cards. root your phone and run titanium backup if you want to save all that stuff.
for your last question about the color. yes, its a png file inside /system/framework/framework-res.apk/res/drawable-hdpi, however, i dont recommend you go mucking around with that......and honestly, it wont look right with the rest of the theme anyway

Ah, thanks for explaining why flashing from a zip in 3e will not work.
I am not sure what parts of the theme you don't think blue will go with...
From what I have seen, the indicators are green and the menus are black. I think that blue would go with that just as well as orange...

bobapunk said:
Basically, I have told myself to skip the Cog4 and just do the Serendipity ROM, but I guess I just wanted a 3rd party endorsement of that decision.
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I endorse it. There. Problem solved.
I flash Serendipity everytime MikeyMike puts out an update to it. Granted I flash a new rom at least every two days. Serendipity is always in my rom rotation.

word of caution
If you are really not sure - don't do any custom ROM flashing, it's overhyped.
Stay on stock, enjoy stability.
Or enter the wonderful world of bricking/unbricking.

My first ROM was Cog 3.04, and I followed to 4.0, and 4.1.
Two days ago, I switched to Serendipity because I wanted a different experience besides something close to stock. It's not that Cog was bad...it's great.
What I'm discovering is that it's great to sample the ROMs until you find what fits you best, even if that means you're changing a lot.

I agree 100%...it's all up to the individual!

In my opinion Cognition is for those who want as close to stock as possible and don't want to stray too far into the flashing foray.
Where as Roms such as Serendipity use the latest software released for the i9000 to enhance the device to a better experience and deviate is much from the stock mess as possible.
That and the fact that Cog is 2.2 and Serendipity is 2.2.1

I used to be a big cognition fan until I tried serendipity. Cog is ok, but serendipity is more tailored to my wants and needs. So perhaps try both and see which one will suit you.
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bravomail said:
If you are really not sure - don't do any custom ROM flashing, it's overhyped.
Stay on stock, enjoy stability.
Or enter the wonderful world of bricking/unbricking.
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Someone didn't RTFM...

MikeyMike01 said:
Someone didn't RTFM...
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LOL!
Seriously.
Even if I did Brick, it seems that $0.99 at radio shack and sacrificing my iGo adapter would be sufficient to un-brick...

bravomail said:
If you are really not sure - don't do any custom ROM flashing, it's overhyped.
Stay on stock, enjoy stability.
Or enter the wonderful world of bricking/unbricking.
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Any Rom is more stable than what was released by ATT and if you are bricking your phone then you should either read more or have some one more knowledgeable do it for you.

bravomail said:
If you are really not sure - don't do any custom ROM flashing, it's overhyped.
Stay on stock, enjoy stability.
Or enter the wonderful world of bricking/unbricking.
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Pretty sure you haven't flashed before if you make a judgement like that. Stock is 1. Much slower, 2. Way less customizable, and 3. Boring.
Lastly, my honest perspective is that stability is the exact same as long as you don't go trekking around things you don't read about prior.
Install a good Rom, find a kernel that sounds the best for you-really just pick one that is popular-if you want. However most Roms come with a custom one so you need not mess with that unless you get interested. And if you want to play around even more, install a different modem. But, as before, that is not necessary.
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Cog4.1 Rom
Suckerpunch#55 kernel
JL3 modem

does serendipity looks like stock rom? I tot it looks like nexus s?

I don't think it looks stock at all. Cog does. I think Serendipity looks (and functions) 100x better than the stock rom.
megarific said:
does serendipity looks like stock rom? I tot it looks like nexus s?
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[Q] Bootloaders and clockwork questions

I am running Continuum V5 RC3. Obviously I have CWM3 and the GB bootloaders. My questions are and Im looking for detail if you have it.....
1) Continuum thread lists one of the safe ways to go back to stock as
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995143
this doesnt contain the GB or Froyo bootloaders so what is the deal with running froyo OS and the GB bootloaders? Is this perfectly safe meaning now that I am on GB bootloaders I should never have to concern myself with bootloaders again (until the next OS comes out) and I can use these bootloaders for GB and Froyo?
2) If I want to change to CM7, would I need to flash back to the old bootloaders or would the current bootloaders be ok?
3) CMW v3 versus v2.5...is there any reason to care? I realize that the scripts themselves are different but I havent seen this so far as anything but an inconvience.

Anyone?
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1) Yes
2) don't know
3) No
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1. GB bootloaders OK for froyo
2. unsure but above answer *might answer that.
3. kinda. cant revert from CWM 3.0 back to 2.5 without going back to stock. but as for why bother going to cmw 3? im still trying to figure that one out....

Searching would have led you to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1057343
From there you could have asked your other questions without starting a new thread.

you should add that to YOUR sig miami!

TRusselo said:
1. GB bootloaders OK for froyo
2. unsure but above answer *might answer that.
3. kinda. cant revert from CWM 3.0 back to 2.5 without going back to stock. but as for why bother going to cmw 3? im still trying to figure that one out....
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3. If he flashes xcals kernel, he should have 2.5 again (unless he updated since I last checked).
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TRusselo said:
you should add that to YOUR sig miami!
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+1
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[Q] Noob Question

Ok so I was looking into methods on how to speed up my captivate and OCLF came up. I did it and it worked great but as I read on , many said to not use it as it was outdated. Is there something similar that uses a faster file system that I can use? Stock 2.2, Rooted

Eh. Maybe...
If you want really fast speed and dont mind flashing, i would flash firefly 3.0, its pretty safe just make sure you have 100% charge when you do it. Then get the OC/UV kernal onix 2.0.5 and boot into recovery and change the file system to ext4...
Any questions? Make another post here i've already done this and can help you out.

I'm kind of hesitant on flashing a rom :/ is there any other way to do it?

Voodoo lagfix doesn't have a fix for froyo yet. Got any love for flashing a kernal?
The extisz Kernal would be for you It has the Voodoo Fixes and everything. You would just need to get the modded 3e recovery and then get CWM and flash the .zip you can download from this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=988805
You could always go back to JF6 and mod everything on it, and voodoo would work on that
OR you could just do OCLF its going to be a little increase, not much because the filesystem changes to ext2 not ext4, voodoo does ext4 which is faster

Search for any KB1 kernel in the Dev section. If you want you stay as true to stock as possible, use Supercurio's stock KB1 + Voodoo kernel. It's nothing fancy, but it works really well with stock KB1.
Existz's KB1 kernel is also good. Overstock KB1 1.3 is another.

Sorry for the really nooby question but what is a kernel? And if I flashed a rom or a kernel how would I get back to stock if I ever wanted to? Also does my data carry over from rom to rom?

BlackSideburns said:
Sorry for the really nooby question but what is a kernel? And if I flashed a rom or a kernel how would I get back to stock if I ever wanted to? Also does my data carry over from rom to rom?
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In short, the kernel is what talks to the phone and how fast it functions. If you flashed a ROM or kernel you could get back to stock by using the Odin one-click downloader, and yes your data carries over. You will not loose data unless the modem you are using for a paticular ROM is not very good in your area...which can also be swapped out for a better one.
But you should really read some of the helpful guides about flashing ROMs.. it will answer a lot of your questions, and future questions

Lol, he wasn't talking about internet data, yes your data can be backed up and restored rom to rom with an app called titanium backup.

studacris said:
Lol, he wasn't talking about internet data, yes your data can be backed up and restored rom to rom with an app called titanium backup.
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Lol.. oh yeah oops, haha I don't know why I was thinking that ..facepalm
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Oh, I see. Thanks. One last thing, what is the fastest rom for captivate while still keeping a nice and refined look? Also will by rogers boot up screen change to at&t?

BlackSideburns said:
Oh, I see. Thanks. One last thing, what is the fastest rom for captivate while still keeping a nice and refined look? Also will by rogers boot up screen change to at&t?
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Its all user preference. While I can say this is the fastest ROM my phone has ever run someone else could say the same about the ROM they are running. Best bet is to try them for yourself and make a decision based on what YOU like.
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Going from gb to froyo

If I want to go back to froyo can I just flash it like I normally would or is there something else I need to do? I'm using i9000 gb bootloaders by the way.

you must have a way to get froyo/eclair bootloaders onto your phone. The most common way, that has always worked for me is Odin3 1click. It will take you back to stock 2.1 eclair, then you can flash froyo roms without issue. (don't use the 3-button fix version - you will brick)
search before you post though. you may have a moderator on you about this. This information is all over these threads. Good luck.

jack man said:
you must have a way to get froyo/eclair bootloaders onto your phone. The most common way, that has always worked for me is Odin3 1click. It will take you back to stock 2.1 eclair, then you can flash froyo roms without issue. (don't use the 3-button fix version - you will brick)
search before you post though. you may have a moderator on you about this. This information is all over these threads. Good luck.
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Its not necessary to flash froyo/eclair BL to get back to a froyo ROM

watsa said:
Its not necessary to flash froyo/eclair BL to get back to a froyo ROM
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Oh, that's right. I forgot that GB bootloaders were backwards compatible. I personally have never used GB bootloaders while on a froyo rom, but the rumor is that you can do that. thanks for reminding me of that.

watsa said:
Its not necessary to flash froyo/eclair BL to get back to a froyo ROM
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Thanks watsa. Great work by the way. Hows 8.3 coming along? Should we expect to see apex on the attain?
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tylercarter said:
Thanks watsa. Great work by the way. Hows 8.3 coming along? Should we expect to see apex on the attain?
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8.3 is coming along good. Got a bit of bump on the way as I am creating an aosp theme for Dlev & Apex.
well as of now I am in canada and will soon be getting Bell' version of SGS II

[Q] Easiest way to get HSUPA

I'm running the stock Gingerbread I got from Odin one click on my captivate. I really want to enable HSUPA, but I don't have the skills you guys have, and it seems you have to make a lot of changes to the phone and use an i9000 Rom. Is there an Odin one click out there that will just flash everything, or is there a step by step guide somewhere? As I said, sorry if I sound dumb, but I'm not used to doing all the steps that seem to be needed.

Yes you need an. I9000 modem /kernel combination to enable hspa its only a couple of steps to install read the I9000 rom ops they should all have instructions on how to flash them...which usually consists of a full version of odin flash to stock gingerbread, an odin flash of a re oriented kernel with cwm baked in it, and then finally the rom flash in cwm...
But at this point, just flash a kernel with odin that has cwm and then flash an I9000 rom in recovery since you already have gingerbread bootloaders...

Cool. Can I get the right thread link?

Go to the mosaic thread, post 2 has all the instructions and files you need.

Mosaic VI, Post #2
Oh yeah, there we go... Thanks studacris for the tip earlier in Q & A
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studacris said:
Go to the mosaic thread, post 2 has all the instructions and files you need.
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The instructions are fairly clear, but if you have something you're stuck on go to the Mosaic thread in the Q&A section. Make sure you understand what you need to do before you try to flash. A lot of folks get into trouble by trying it before they understand.
But as Studacris said, the tread post has all you'll need
Enjoy!

Did it! I'm free of ATT! The stock ginger is fine for me! The speed is much better! Only 3 things.
1. Is there a fix for the home button?
2. No more USB mass storage mode?
3. How to root.
I'm not going to mess with any custom roms yet. I'm very, very happy.
Found the home button fix! Clockwork mod is great! As are these forums!

settings, wireless and networks, usb mode, usb mass storage
flash the attached to root, assuming you have flashed a reoreinted kernel with cwm baked in

Hi,
I followed the instructions for the HSUPA, and nothing seems to be broken, but my question is.... is there anything i can see in the settings of the phone that show the dl of the I9000 kernel took?
Thanks,
I love all the work everyone does!

Installed the Reoriantated I9000. Rooted. Then, installed the kc1 modem, or, as I am now fondly calling it, the modem on crack. . HOLY ****! Getting like 2MB down and 1.5MB up. Before, about 512k down and like 30k up! ATT is an absolute disgrace for what they did to this wonderful phone. It doesn't even seem like the same phone anymore. More responsive in every way, no bloatware, and almost 4G like internet! Seriously, non-Iphone users should band together for a class action lawsuit. We shouldn't have to go through this Hell to make hardware work the way it was meant to.
Too tired to mess with other roms, but sure as hell used clockwork to back this one up! Thanks for all the help and patience again.
Oh, one last thing. I have the Odin one click for ATT stock. If I ever need warranty, will that one flash bring everything back to the ATT garbage?

Yes it will

I get 5 Mbps down and 3 Mbps up
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Damn! What modem are you using?
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It was on MIUI with JK4 Modem
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b-eock said:
It was on MIUI with JK4 Modem
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This is an i9000 based setup, right?

Kinda, am I9000 modem. MIUI is cm aosp based...

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Oh, one last thing. I have the Odin one click for ATT stock. If I ever need warranty, will that one flash bring everything back to the ATT garbage?
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yes, u can one click to go back to ecliar Jf6 .