Related
Hey guys! Hope I don't get flamed for posting in development but it just doesn't seem like this should be in general... Anyways, sztupy over in the i9000 forums developed a universal lagfix kernel that is compatible with Eugene373's JPM Froyo rom. You are able to convert your partitions [including /dbdata and /cache] to EXT4, EXT2, and JFS.
The original forum can be found here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814228
I have flashed this and have successfully converted my partitions using the EXT4 Advanced and Overkill options and back to RFS. All buttons work in recovery [yes including the power button] BUT when using your phone HOME and BACK both act as HOME. I just did this today so I cannot comment on battery life. One thing that is pretty cool though is this has back light notification built into it and I can confirm it works. I made a flashable zip for the latest build 0.3 and have flashed it successfully.
Disclaimer: I am not responsible for anything you do to your device. So proceed at your own risk.
ENJOY!
The backlight notification, does it stay on persistently, once you get a message, or does it go on and off? Example, if I get a message while I'm sleeping are my leds going stay lit all night?
Sent from my SGH-T959 using Tapatalk
eugenes kernel is the only reason why we have all the buttons working. If you flash a different kernel it will mess up back and home and break things. Don't people read anymore??
If any thing we should be flashing any rom from the i9000 then eugenes kernel
Sent from my vibrant
blackerwater said:
eugenes kernel is the only reason why we have all the buttons working. If you flash a different kernel it will mess up back and home and break things. Don't people read anymore??
If any thing we should be flashing any rom from the i9000 then eugenes kernel
Sent from my vibrant
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've not seen anybody report anything else breaking minus the key mapping. Also, calm down. I'm just interested in the complete rfs replacement w/ ext4 and backlight notify. Why does it bother you if people want to satisfy curiosity?
Sent from my SGH-T959 using Tapatalk
Sorry I didn't mean to be harsh. But i just keep seeing the same questions over and over and misinformation . Thats all.
Sent from my vibrant
It's cool.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using Tapatalk
has anyone asked eugene if he's thought about implementing this in his kernel?
blackerwater said:
eugenes kernel is the only reason why we have all the buttons working. If you flash a different kernel it will mess up back and home and break things. Don't people read anymore??
If any thing we should be flashing any rom from the i9000 then eugenes kernel
Sent from my vibrant
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You r right, I see too many people jumping to flash "anything", without taking precautions, and after the fact running crazy to fix the mess. Giving this kind of advice, while is not polite, it is wise....
Sent from my SGS TMo Vibrant with
FFC (Yes, front cam)
Froyo (Yes, Android 2.2)
Full Flash 10.1 (Yes, flash videos, hulu, and so on)
And Multitasking... For real
Having an iAttack yet?
Using XDA App
gagb1967 said:
You r right, I see too many people jumping to flash "anything", without taking precautions, and after the fact running crazy to fix the mess. Giving this kind of advice, while is not polite, it is wise....
Sent from my SGS TMo Vibrant with
FFC (Yes, front cam)
Froyo (Yes, Android 2.2)
Full Flash 10.1 (Yes, flash videos, hulu, and so on)
And Multitasking... For real
Having an iAttack yet?
Using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's funny over in eugene373's people were talking about this lagfix, and it was suggested to start a new thread to avoid clutter. Good advice. Now the only people posting here want nothing to do with said lagfix.???
XDA is a weird place.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using Tapatalk
billydroid said:
It's funny over in eugene373's people were talking about this lagfix, and it was suggested to start a new thread to avoid clutter. Good advice. Now the only people posting here want nothing to do with said lagfix.???
XDA is a weird place.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think you got it wrong. We are not saying no to do things or experiment. Is just there are people that don't understand exactly what they are doing, and follow this threads, and do the changes without precautions.
One thing is to experiment, but is important to point out what the consecuences maybe.
Without a back button working, it really makes this phone a pain in the a$$ to navigate!!! especially when in your messaging or facebook app. Not really worth flashing till one of the vibrant devs can fix the back button in one of these lag fix kernals.
deviusdragger said:
Without a back button working, it really makes this phone a pain in the a$$ to navigate!!! especially when in your messaging or facebook app. Not really worth flashing till one of the vibrant devs can fix the back button in one of these lag fix kernals.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The no back button is proving annoying for sure. Just wanted to post an update. I converted to Advanced JFS successfully and got a quad score of 1560. One other thing that does seem to be broke [as expected] is media sound. Ringtones still work. The backlight notification has been working great! However it does not seem to ever turn off [can disable it in recovery]. Battery life seems fairly decent so far. Think I'll give Overkill JFS a go and see how it runs. Would definitely be nice if this could be compiled into Eugene's kernel. Hopefully more will come of this...
I'm going to take a look at their kernel source and the source that eugene has for his ROM and see what I can do between the two, maybe I will be able to get this running on the Vibrant with correct keymapping
gothdroid said:
I'm going to take a look at their kernel source and the source that eugene has for his ROM and see what I can do between the two, maybe I will be able to get this running on the Vibrant with correct keymapping
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That would be awesome if you can get it to work! If you need someone to test it PM me ANYTIME. Good luck!
Hello,
I installed some musicial applications (Musical Lite, xPiano) and I see that there is a small delay (less then 1 second) when I press on the Note and the time I hear it.
I checked it on my old IPOD touch and it seems that it's lke that only on Galaxy S I9000.
Does anyone know anything about it?
Thank you
I am using samsung galaxy s and I am not afraid to say Galaxy is far far slower than Iphone or Ipod...I think I took wrong decisiong in chosing Samsung Galaxy..
and now for a real answer
there must some technical explanation for this
The Galaxy S is a really fast phone just Samsung decided to use their own filesystem for the the data/storage partition made on the internal flash, this will explain why you only have a 6GB storage area on the internal storage. The issue you are having is no doubt related to RFS. I suggest applying the voodoo lag fix which will format the partition to ext4 which is lag free. I just flashed the Darkyy custom ROM which comes with the voodoo kernel and applied the lag fix from the recovery menu.
Darky ROM for Galaxy S
Actually I am using PilotX Rom.
I did used the LagFix to change to Ext4.
What are the consequences for doing so?
I heard that it can f--k up the FS.
wintert said:
Actually I am using PilotX Rom.
I did used the LagFix to change to Ext4.
What are the consequences for doing so?
I heard that it can f--k up the FS.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Only issue with that is if you want to flash another ROM later you must reverse the lagfix then reapply after flash due to the fact that samsung kernels expect the partition that was formatted to EXT4 to be RFS. If you are running darky ROM most of the time you can just do an update with nowipe and it will work fine but every now and then you are gonna need to backup all your apps and settings and stuff if you wish to preserve them. Easily done with Titanium backup which runs nice and fast once that 2GB partition is EXT4 format! All instructions on the Darky ROM thread i linked to earlier.
wintert said:
Actually I am using PilotX Rom.
I did used the LagFix to change to Ext4.
What are the consequences for doing so?
I heard that it can f--k up the FS.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Never heard of a pilotx rom, and changing to ext4 won't mess anything up. Upgrade to one of the 2.2.1 jpy based roms and it'll get rid of that lag.
It is obvious and clear that iphone is much faster and easy to use as final user.
I don't know a lot about mac and I'm sure many will have a lot to say, but it seems that there are thousands of differents roms for every t terminal with android. And iphone is not that open.
But with a lot of reading and learning we can make our phones the best phones on the market.
What I don't understand is why they don't do phones as they suppose to be. Great as they come out of the box.
I'm starting to like the phone after the lag fix and I'm actually love it.
i want to get the jpy but some things are still on the air. Like I still dont know how to make a n an droid backup, since samsung decided to use the 3e recovery. Or why for some reason I cant use rom manager. Id like to know if swype is also in jpy and what language jpy uses.
Or whats the difference between z4mod and oclf.
The wiki is still on dipers. And nothing is clear enough.
Why could samsung do something so wrong with the file sy st em.
I want to think that if google like sgs to do his new nexus s it is because they have a good reason.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
wintert said:
Hello,
I installed some musicial applications (Musical Lite, xPiano) and I see that there is a small delay (less then 1 second) when I press on the Note and the time I hear it.
I checked it on my old IPOD touch and it seems that it's lke that only on Galaxy S I9000.
Does anyone know anything about it?
Thank you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I believe it's got nothing to do with the phone hardware. It's probably an Android problem, as all the piano apps that I've tried have that lag (which takes all the fun out of playing as I can't time the notes right).
The touch does register instantly, which can be seen from the depressed appearance of the piano key, but the sound lags. It's probably some problem with Android's sound framework or something.
ravi tejpal said:
I am using samsung galaxy s and I am not afraid to say Galaxy is far far slower than Iphone or Ipod...I think I took wrong decisiong in chosing Samsung Galaxy..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
this total bull****, you say only your crap. sgs is more powerful than the iphone4, apps are lame, coders are lame. I'm coding on both platform in ndk too. the problem is that on android there are very few professional coders. most of iphone coder just porting simpler way their app to android, lack of any optimizings.
I have an SGS and I have noticed the lag, not as bad as others, but it is noticeable, before the lagfix.
Why does our phone and not others have this problem? In layman's terms please, I am not too familiar with phone tech speak yet.
Also, I know there are a few different fixes out, which ones are better?
Thanks,
Ian
Lots of people put the lag down to the filing system. Samsung chose to implement their own (RFS i believe) and not the android/linux versions.
I use RyanZa's OCLF on mine and its brilliant, it makes the phone use EXT2 file structure (a proper Linux file system). I used it on 2.1 Eclair and now on 2.2 Froyo. I cant say i've tried the other lag fixes so my opinion may be a little biased but my phone is super quick so i'm happy with it
stickfinger said:
Lots of people put the lag down to the filing system. Samsung chose to implement their own (RFS i believe) and not the android/linux versions.
I use RyanZa's OCLF on mine and its brilliant, it makes the phone use EXT2 file structure (a proper Linux file system). I used it on 2.1 Eclair and now on 2.2 Froyo. I cant say i've tried the other lag fixes so my opinion may be a little biased but my phone is super quick so i'm happy with it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Voodoo lagfix converts the file system to EXT4 which is faster than EXT2. I m rocking my Galaxy S with Darky's Rom & Voodoo lagfix enabled.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
mushipkw said:
Voodoo lagfix converts the file system to EXT4 which is faster than EXT2. I m rocking my Galaxy S with Darky's Rom & Voodoo lagfix enabled.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am also running Darky's ROM, Gingerbread 7.7 and I did enable Voodoo in recovery.
Thanks
PS, I wasn't complainging about my speed, just curious as to why our phones have this problem and others don't.
The thoughts are that RFS has serious issues, however, in JPX, it seems to be fixed. Therefore these days I recommend using JPX rather than switching filesystem.
Note that not all phones suffer from lag. Why, I have no clue.
My family has 3 SGSs (i9000M) none of which have this problem. I installed a lag fix on my phone a while back to see what the fus was all about and it actually SIGNIFICANTLY hurt my performance. After removing it, everything went back to snappy speeds.
Auzy said:
The thoughts are that RFS has serious issues, however, in JPX, it seems to be fixed. Therefore these days I recommend using JPX rather than switching filesystem.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
True, the problem is the filesystem which simply 'gets stuck' and forces the applications to queue when there is too much activity (for example when the Market starts installing apps...).
The 2.2.1 firmware seems to have fixed this issue, at least on my I9000. (Not sure what Samsung have changed, one would have to check the RFS driver in the kernel for that.)
Thanks all for the info.
It seems to me that Samsung has really dropped the ball with this phone. The SD card issue, the lag issue and the GPS issue.
I know that new technology can be a bit of a mess, but shoudln';t a manufacturer, especiallyu one as big as Samsung test their pruducts properly before coming to market?
Is it a matter of "Yes, we know there are problems with the phone, but we will make more money if we come to market now with a peice of crap"?
Or is it just that they made a mistake?
Ian
i have also upgraded to froyo stock 2.2.1. No lag so far. Seems like i was facing a slight lag when i was on stock 2.2.
Auzy said:
The thoughts are that RFS has serious issues, however, in JPX, it seems to be fixed. Therefore these days I recommend using JPX rather than switching filesystem.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hope you're aware that the newer JPY firmware is out now.
I upgraded my milestone to 2.2.1 since then my phone has slowed down , opening or closing of apps takes time and sometimes it reboots itself , processing has slowed down eventually ,
Comments appreciated and help required
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App
Try to Hardreset your phone...
I never had an issue like this...
Root it.
SuperCharge it.
Enjoy.
Try overclocking, or preferably try a new ROM already overclocked - that way you will get fresh rom + optimizations + OC = you will be pleased.
You don't even have to use supercharging as many roms already do great without it.
And many are slow as a snail to the point where the phone is unusable...
Not everybody loves clogged memory like you do lol
The guy wants it fast... not slow LMAO
Edit: Actually, you're kinda sorta almost right in some cases... as more and more devs are supercharging their roms
LMAO LOL ROFLLMALMAO
please, point out those which are slow, let us know
Search the forum for "redraw"
You may actually get 1 or 2 hits...
I edited my prior post indicating that you're right in a few cases...
MuF123 said:
You don't even have to use supercharging as many roms already do great without it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
zeppelinrox said:
And many are slow as a snail to the point where the phone is unusable...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm still waiting for those roms which you meant as "slow as a snail"
PS: it is not called supercharging, that's just your script. people used other values even before your "fancy" script.
Ya, but nobody dared to actually fix OOM memory groupings... bub
I even say in my OP... playing with minfrees is NOT memory management...
What I did IS memory management...
I control what goes where and when it gets killed.. that's the only way to do it
An app like AMM or AKMO will let you set minfrees for 6 slots.
That's it.
Big deal.
But stock froyo and stock gingerbread group apps differently nevermind all the different configurations of custom roms.
Hell, CM7 has NOTHING in the third slot.
With AMM you can set slot 3 to 100mb on CM7 and it won't do squat.
Edit: Of course, when I say "slow as a snail" it is my opinion based on a rom unsupercharged as compared to when it is supercharged.
So out of the box, HONO and MIUI are supercharged to begin with at the moment so except for those, all the others would feel slow to me.
To you, EVERYTHING is fast, because you like sloooooooooooooooooooow with lots of apps that you aren't using clogging up memory.
Which is NOT what the OP was asking for
Links to download overclocked ROM
Sent from my Milestone using XDA Premium App
They are all overclocked
Froyo or gingerbread is basically the main decision on what to try
Sent from my Milestone using Tapatalk
Am scared to try the overclocking coz as many said it may brick your phone but my phone is still under warranty, is there any links from where I can actually start with rooting and custom rom and. Overclocking?
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983516
Well, technically, rooting it voids the warranty anyway
currently,i am on f1 innovation v11 with 1959 quadrant score..even though its a all new custom rom but its still laggy....gingerbread 2.3.5 jvs....i love samsung for making wonderful phones but they cant beat apple in using pleasure.....
the biggest prob is....lack of ram due to which message do not open.i have to clear memory to open messages
GUYS PLZ PLZ PLZ HELP ME TO MAKE THIS PHONE EASY TO USE....TELL ME SOME TWEAKS.....
PS..DONT TELL ME TO INSTALL ALL NEW ROM LIKE DARKYROM 10.2.2 I DONT LIKE IT......
anujkhurana said:
currently,i am on f1 innovation v11 with 1959 quadrant score..even though its a all new custom rom but its still laggy....gingerbread 2.3.5 jvs....i love samsung for making wonderful phones but they cant beat apple in using pleasure.....
the biggest prob is....lack of ram due to which message do not open.i have to clear memory to open messages
GUYS PLZ PLZ PLZ HELP ME TO MAKE THIS PHONE EASY TO USE....TELL ME SOME TWEAKS.....
PS..DONT TELL ME TO INSTALL ALL NEW ROM LIKE DARKYROM 10.2.2 I DONT LIKE IT......
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Samsung rom's will always stay laggy unless they change the filesystem. Cyanogenmod is by far one of the smoothest rom i've tried on my Sammy (not that i've tried em all).
An other option would be to lagfix your phone, there are numerous threads that explains how to do that (I dont have time to search for it at the moment).
yes, CM7 is hell of a good rom. i rarely see lag on my phone, i mean, i dont see at all,.. the only problem is, when i change the background of SMS/Messaging pin code, sometimes it enlarges the background, and any live wallpaper won't work there, but STILL GREAT. and i occasionally see lag in other Samsung based roms out there, 2.3.4 / 2.3.5
Try flashing a kernel that incorporates lagfix. Semaphore, speedmod or Dark Core work really well and it's dead easy to install them. Then, convert your filesystem to ext4.
After that, try applying these tweaks, they work wonders on our phone's memory management and speed things up quite nicely:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15948434&postcount=1127
You just need busybox 1.18.2 (read the first post in that thread for a link and more instructions)
cm7 my friend , thats all you need , try it and u will not remember the word "lag"
What he^^ said.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using xda premium
Which cm7 version is everyone talking about? Can someone post a link to the thread?
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
anujkhurana said:
currently,i am on f1 innovation v11 with 1959 quadrant score..even though its a all new custom rom but its still laggy....gingerbread 2.3.5 jvs....i love samsung for making wonderful phones but they cant beat apple in using pleasure.....
the biggest prob is....lack of ram due to which message do not open.i have to clear memory to open messages
GUYS PLZ PLZ PLZ HELP ME TO MAKE THIS PHONE EASY TO USE....TELL ME SOME TWEAKS.....
PS..DONT TELL ME TO INSTALL ALL NEW ROM LIKE DARKYROM 10.2.2 I DONT LIKE IT......
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Custom roms always have higher quadrant scores but they are always laggy. If you want a smooth experience, just flash one of the final builds of Froyo 2.2.1. ZSJPK was the second latest 2.2.1 build and I find it to be the best. It's virtually lag-free.
Try CM7 really good rom, or MIUI rom good one as well and lag free.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk
cm7 and miui are, like mentioned, lag-free. But they drain battery faster than stock or stock-based ROMs (at least in my experience). It's a trade-off but it could be worth trying them out.
cm7 is basically "The Way Google Envisioned Android" as in, there's no branding or manufacturer's crap on the phone.
MIUI is what I like to call "So You Got An Android But Like iPhone's Looks Better". I tried it and it was too iPhoney to me. But you might like it.
+1 to CyanogenMod 7.1 stable (CM7.1) - google it for their website, you can't really miss it.
No lags at all. And according to my experience, my battery gets drained as fast as with any other rom (i've tried several stock and custom 2.2 and 2.3.x).
I am staying clear of nightlies however. Stable works great for me, no point screwing up with that.
i know CM7 is good rom and lagfree....because the rom size is only 95mb...but i like few things in samsung...like slide right to call and slide left to msg and few little feature.... we are sooo ****ed up with this great hardware but stupid firmware!!!....**** YOU SAMSUNG
Herman76 said:
Samsung rom's will always stay laggy unless they change the filesystem. Cyanogenmod is by far one of the smoothest rom i've tried on my Sammy (not that i've tried em all).
An other option would be to lagfix your phone, there are numerous threads that explains how to do that (I dont have time to search for it at the moment).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i know CM7 is good rom and lagfree....because the rom size is only 95mb...but i like few things in samsung...like slide right to call and slide left to msg and few little feature.... we are sooo ****ed up with this great hardware but stupid firmware!!!....**** YOU SAMSUNG
Link to CM7
anujkhurana said:
i know CM7 is good rom and lagfree....because the rom size is only 95mb...but i like few things in samsung...like slide right to call and slide left to msg and few little feature.... we are sooo ****ed up with this great hardware but stupid firmware!!!....**** YOU SAMSUNG
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So which phone would you choose next, then? An HTC?
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
anujkhurana said:
i know CM7 is good rom and lagfree....because the rom size is only 95mb
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Huh? ROM size has nothing to do with whether or not it lags.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk
Try using odexed roms like Simplicity with ext4. It works great for me.
Hit thanks if this helped
ferparedes said:
So which phone would you choose next, then? An HTC?
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no i will stick to samsung only...there hardware config is fab!!! i installed CM7 but its like.....removing every charm from the firmware to make it light weight and usable....now i am thinking to install hybrid 5.0 looking awsum...letsee....now which new firmware will piss me off!!!