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{Q}Bootloader question do they work with all newer roms?

Ok here is the setup I'm running the new Cog with i'm assuming the new CWM it don't even go into 3e any more i've been waiting on the side line with the GB upgrade reading and trying to figure it all out.
I pretty sure i got the flash part worked out going to use Heimdall to do it because i only have access to a linux machine...
I get what the bootloaders are for are they backwards compatible say i flash them will they work even if i want to run cog some more?
When i start flashing diffrent rom's will they get changed back or will they only change if i flash them in heimdall?
Thanks any and all help will get thanks...

yes you can still run cog with the GB bootloaders. they should not be replaced by any rom flash...just make sure before you flash a froyo rom that in the updates folder it doesnt conatian a sbl.bin if it does dont flash it that is a froyo secondary bootloader and it will brick the phone if paired with a GB primary bootloader.
now after you flash those bootloaders and want a GB rom just flash a Gb kernel boot directly into recovery and flash the rom.

Thank you bro...

[Q] question kh3

Could someone make a odin one click stock kh3 rooted with CWM for the Captivate.....sure would make flashing these new kh3 roms allot eaiser

malebornin69 said:
Could someone make a odin one click stock kh3 rooted with CWM for the Captivate.....sure would make flashing these new kh3 roms allot eaiser
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you dont need to flash full KH3 to get to a custom KH3 rom. You dont even need to be rooted

watsa said:
you dont need to flash full KH3 to get to a custom KH3 rom. You dont even need to be rooted
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I know that, but you do need CWM so why not start out clean with KH3

malebornin69 said:
I know that, but you do need CWM so why not start out clean with KH3
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To get CWM u can flash a custom kernel with CWM support.
Cezar has posted ODIN version of KH3. Flash it if u want "clean" install. Then place rom.zip on ur sd card, flash a custom kernel (boog' or XCal reoriented no voodoo), reboot into recovery and flash rom.zip

watsa said:
To get CWM u can flash a custom kernel with CWM support.
Cezar has posted ODIN version of KH3. Flash it if u want "clean" install. Then place rom.zip on ur sd card, flash a custom kernel (boog' or XCal reoriented no voodoo), reboot into recovery and flash rom.zip
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Yes I understand how to do it and have done it quite a few times. Just seemed to me it would be eaiser to use odin ONE click to KH3 with CWM(if it existed) place whatever KH3 rom on the root of the phone boot into CWM then flash it.

malebornin69 said:
Yes I understand how to do it and have done it quite a few times. Just seemed to me it would be eaiser to use odin ONE click to KH3 with CWM(if it existed) place whatever KH3 rom on the root of the phone boot into CWM then flash it.
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If there is some reason it cant be done then cool no biggie

It probably could be done but it isn't hard to just flash KH3 that cezar posted....

malebornin69 said:
Could someone make a odin one click stock kh3 rooted with CWM for the Captivate.....sure would make flashing these new kh3 roms allot eaiser
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Hey, I got something in the works...
But I won't b able to do some testing until later this evening. I will post some more info then.
If all goes according to plan, I should b able to give u what u were asking for (and others also who may find something like this useful). And if so I will probably open a thread in the development section with download links, etc. etc.
Edit: Still a work in progress...9-13-11
Edit 2: (9-15) Still testing and hope to upload this weekend...
Edit 3: Made a Mod See thread here. 9-20-11

[GUIDE] Which Kernels are Safe/Unsafe to Wipe and Flash from

"Hi. I'm on SpeedMod K3-13 and want to flash CM10. Do I flash AbyssNote 4.2, reboot recovery, wipe and then flash...?"
"How do I flash this? I'm on stock ICS with CF-Root...?"
"I am on ICS Stunner 4.25 and want to flash ParanoidAndroid. What do I have to do...?"
These sort of questions crop up tens of times daily in various GNote threads. This little guide is meant to give you an answer to those and similar questions, so you'll know what to do. It'll also hep you to not get ridiculed by all sorts of cranky characters (myself included) in the fora.
Safe Kernels to Wipe and Flash From
You can go directly into CWMR, do a full wipe and flash new TW- or CM-based Roms (it doesn't matter which ones) according to their instructions. No need to go back to GB, no need to flash some new kernel, no need to reboot recovery. Just boot into CWMR, wipe and flash like you would in the good old GB days - there's nothing to fear.
TW ICS Kernels
1. All NoteCore kernel versions
2. All PhilZ-cwm6 kernels
3. All Franco kernels starting from v4 and newer kernels
4. All SpeedMod kernels starting from v4 and newer
CM9/CM10 Kernels
These are all absolutely safe to wipe and flash from directly. You can flash new TW or CM Roms, it doesn't matter which one. Following Roms are running CM9/CM10 kernels ATM: official CM9/CM10 (obvioulsy), ParanoidAndroid, Asylum ICS and JB, LiquidSmooth, all AOKP Roms, Ganbarou.
HydraCore Universal Kernel
Universal kernel for all TW- and CM-based JB and ICS Rom(developed by g.lewarne of NoteCore fame). It has MMC_CAP_ERASE disabled both in the kernel and CWMR. You can flash any type of Rom directly from its CWMR (full wipe and flash).
GB Kernels
All perfectly safe to wipe/flash from directly. Side note: don't listen to guys who tell you that you need to flash an ICS Rom or kernel before going for JB. They are wrong: you can flash JB Roms directly from GB.
Borderline Case: Safe - Sort of?
CF--Root ICS Kernels - All of Them
These kernels are safe to wipe from, but not totally safe to flash from. This is what Entropy and Jgaviota say about them:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29263870&postcount=490
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29268600&postcount=492
Having this in mind, my advice would be for you to flash one of the safe kernels over CF--Root, reboot recovery, wipe everything and flash away. Although CF--Root has MMC_CAP_ERASE disabled in its recovery, apparently Roms you want to flash from it can brick your phone with bad update-binary.
Unsafe Kernels - Red Alert!
These are just biding their time and waiting for a chance to brick your Note.
1. All leaked ICS kernels - ZCLP1, ZCLP5, ZCLP6, Angelom's Stock ICS kernel and Neobuddy's modified ZCLP kernel (in old Stunner Roms)
2. All stock ICS kernels running in Roms rooted by the infamous CWM.zip method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1810954
If your Rom happens to have any of the above, don't panic. Head over to the kernel thread, download any of the safe kernels for Mobile/PC Odin (they are tar files, not zips). Put the safe kernel tar on your PC, fire up PC Odin, hit PDA and select your kernel tar. Put the phone into download mode, connect it to your PC and flash the new kernel via PC Odin. After the flash is done, go into the CWMR, do the wipes and flash any new Rom you fancy.​

Where do I find the kernels?
Q. Where do I find and download all these kernels you're talking about here?
In Kernel Repository thread. Click here to get them.​

This should be sticky,thank you!

Once again Chas, a good guide to refer to.....
could you give your advise about this scenario -- maybe it needs a special mention too
Mobile Odin on Cf root kernel ( this combination)
please refer this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30723213&postcount=483
once in a while we do find ourselves on rooted stock kernel or Cf root kernel and wanting to use Mobile Odin....
thanks

rraaka said:
please refer this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30723213&postcount=483
once in a while we do find ourselves on rooted stock kernel or Cf root kernel and wanting to use Mobile Odin....
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As posted above, I would not advise flashing any new Roms from CF--Root kernel, be it from CWMR or via Mobile Odin.
Drop into CF--Root CWMR, flash a safe kernel (see the OP), reboot recovery and be on your merry way.

Good stuff chasmodo Hope the sticky helps other users out.

Latest speedmod kernel I see is K3-13.....which one is V4 which is safe to flash from?
Is it the same as in this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673072
Thanks

Rakaan said:
Latest speedmod kernel I see is K3-13.....which one is V4 which is safe to flash from?
Is it the same as in this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673072
Thanks
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I said v4 and above, which means v4, v5, v6 etc all the way to v13. All of them are safe.

Sorry newbie here. Appreciate the confirmation. Thanks

chasmodo said:
I would not advise flashing any new Roms .... via Mobile Odin...
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From the man himself from somewhere...
Entropy512 said:
Please read before spouting utter and total bull****.
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(Just kidding)
Mobile Odin uses its own safe kernel during its operations. Kernel u are on becomes irrelevant as soon as it boots into its own recovery mode. Or am I the one spouting B/S?
Maybe guys claiming Mobile Odin bricked their devices did wipes on ICS beforehand. Damage already done. Just waiting to freeze next time bad blocks are accessed

shoey63 said:
Mobile Odin uses its own safe kernel during its operations. Kernel u are on becomes irrelevant as soon as it boots into its own recovery mode.
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Yes, we all know that. However Entropy also said on more than one occasion that MO sometimes fails to flash kernels properly, and advised using SetCPU to double check which kernel you are actually on after a MO flash.

Ah yes, the Franco brick. I use Mo to flash stock. (and yes, I check kernel before wiping) PC Odin worries me in case I get BSOD at the wrong time during flash. Got a new SSD for my Pc and its happening a fair bit. (still working on that one)
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shoey63 said:
Ah yes, the Franco brick. I use Mo to flash stock. (and yes, I check kernel before wiping) PC Odin worries me in case I get BSOD at the wrong time during flash. Got a new SSD for my Pc and its happening a fair bit. (still working on that one)
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Yes, BSOD or micro power outage is always a concern when using PCO. They never happen but one is always frightened.

How about Goku kernel? i think you miss it.

kenshinjar said:
How about Goku kernel? i think you miss it.
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It's a SpeedMod kernel.

So if I get it right?
If anyone is running speedmod v13 and rocket rom v7 u dont need to be afraid of the MMCBUG, and can flash cm9 directly from ICS if rinning Speedmod v4-v13?.
So any kernel with mmc_cap_erase_off isnt able to brick youre device while wiping...
How sure is this? was there any reported bricks from speedmode kernels, or any kernels with mmc-cap-erase-off???
Thanks in advance?
(and yes i did read a lot and Im still confused, i just want to be 100 % sure)
Take care
DonLaDriod

DonLaDroid said:
So if I get it right?
If anyone is running speedmod v13 and rocket rom v7 u dont need to be afraid of the MMCBUG, and can flash cm9 directly from ICS if rinning Speedmod v4-v13?.
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Yes.
DonLaDroid said:
So any kernel with mmc_cap_erase_off isnt able to brick youre device while wiping...
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Yes.
DonLaDroid said:
How sure is this? was there any reported bricks from speedmode kernels, or any kernels with mmc-cap-erase-off???
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There's been no brick reports after flashing from safe kernels.

Thanks for excellent guide: short, clear and exhaustive explanation! :good:

Great idea as usual .Thanks , Mr,Chas..

Thanks
Great thread, Many thanks for put this in place.
How can i move from Custom ICS rom with HydroCore to Assylum CM10 Rom and incase if i need to revert how can i flash GB or ICS stock roms.
Thanks

My Cappy is freakin out !!!!

OMG, I had CM7 on it for about a year now, it's been great. Now I tried to flash a different (corn) kernel recovery to it and it's flippin out. I can't get it into recovery mode anymore, the 3 buttons or anything else I do just puts it into download mode. I've flash it back to a stock rom UCKK4 using a 1 click program and it'll boot up but I get all these weird colors on the screen before and after the AT&T logo, like the boot partition is corrupted. Oh man, I just wanted to put the corn recovery on it with cm9, plzzzz help. p.s. I really spent ALL day yesterday reading and trying to figure this out, hoping there was an easy fix.

Don't worry, it is an easy fix.
1. You can't use corn with CM, corn kernel is based off stock KK4 gingerbread.
2. The garbled screen you are getting means that you are trying to boot a gingerbread kernel without having gingerbread bootloaders. You need to flash a stock gingerbread package that includes them.

korockinout13 said:
Don't worry, it is an easy fix.
1. You can't use corn with CM, corn kernel is based off stock KK4 gingerbread.
2. The garbled screen you are getting means that you are trying to boot a gingerbread kernel without having gingerbread bootloaders. You need to flash a stock gingerbread package that includes them.
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lol.... Now ya see how 1 gets confused. I read all over the forums and it says "If U EVER had the bootloader installed, you'll never need to do it again"...Aggghh. That was my NEWBIE yell. BTW, Ur here helping me again like a Guarding Angel, thank U!!! Should I flash a stock gngrbrd w/ bootloders AND CWM???

vahelms said:
lol.... Now ya see how 1 gets confused. I read all over the forums and it says "If U EVER had the bootloader installed, you'll never need to do it again"
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They meant gingerbread boot loaders because they are backwards compatible with froyo and eclair stock ROMs. Just download a one click stock gingerbread ROM with boot loaders and flash. I'd go for UCKK4 package provided by 4-2ndtwin with boot loaders and repartition
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[Q] problem with Cm 10 in captivate format internal sd

Hi I have a big problem with my galaxy captivate CyanogenMod need help, accidentally format the internal sd, download again a rom cm 10 and put on the card (the phone accesses download mode and recovery) and try to install it but fails, I thought about using odin to return to stock rom but not if that brickea the phone, please help:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:

lineu said:
Hi I have a big problem with my galaxy captivate CyanogenMod need help, accidentally format the internal sd, download again a rom cm 10 and put on the card (the phone accesses download mode and recovery) and try to install it but fails, I thought about using odin to return to stock rom but not if that brickea the phone, please help:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
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What ROM/version are you running right now? (settings-> about phone)
If it's not CM10, grab Odin one click KK4 without bootloaders. Flash it and then flash Corn kernel with Odin 1.85. From there, flash CM10 as per their instructions.
PS.: The only way to brick your phone is by flashing bootloaders and having issues, which rarely happens is the user is careful and knows what he's doing. Since you don't need to flash bootloaders, there's no chance of bricking your phone if you follow the right instructions.

BWolf56 said:
What ROM/version are you running right now? (settings-> about phone)
If it's not CM10, grab Odin one click KK4 without bootloaders. Flash it and then flash Corn kernel with Odin 1.85. From there, flash CM10 as per their instructions.
PS.: The only way to brick your phone is by flashing bootloaders and having issues, which rarely happens is the user is careful and knows what he's doing. Since you don't need to flash bootloaders, there's no chance of bricking your phone if you follow the right instructions.
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my phone had installed CM 10, proceeded to download the rom of KF1 sammobile and install with odin, everything worked perfectly, my phone starts, I now proceed to give root to install cm 7
thanks for the help

BWolf56 said:
What ROM/version are you running right now? (settings-> about phone)
If it's not CM10, grab Odin one click KK4 without bootloaders. Flash it and then flash Corn kernel with Odin 1.85. From there, flash CM10 as per their instructions.
PS.: The only way to brick your phone is by flashing bootloaders and having issues, which rarely happens is the user is careful and knows what he's doing. Since you don't need to flash bootloaders, there's no chance of bricking your phone if you follow the right instructions.
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is me again, now my phone have this version
firmware: 2.3.3 (I897UCKF1)
kernel: 2.6.35.7-I897UCKF1_CL273832
can i instal the rom KK4 having the KF1?
sorry for my english, im from venezuela

lineu said:
is me again, now my phone have this version
firmware: 2.3.3 (I897UCKF1)
kernel: 2.6.35.7-I897UCKF1_CL273832
can i instal the rom KK4 having the KF1?
sorry for my english, im from venezuela
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If you're already on GB (2.3.3), you don't need to flash KK4 (2.3.5). You can get back to CM10 as per their instructions.
Flashing Corn kernel with Odin 1.85 would be your first step.

BWolf56 said:
If you're already on GB (2.3.3), you don't need to flash KK4 (2.3.5). You can get back to CM10 as per their instructions.
Flashing Corn kernel with Odin 1.85 would be your first step.
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I can then install the corn kernel on the version I have or there is a kernel corn for each version?

lineu said:
I can then install the corn kernel on the version I have or there is a kernel corn for each version?
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Corn will work for with GB, you should be fine on 2.3.3.

BWolf56 said:
Corn will work for with GB, you should be fine on 2.3.3.
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really man thanks for all your help, thanks for responding so fast
will try to install the kernel corn, anything I write to you