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A disgruntled HTC phone owner has started a petition on a consumer website called Groubal, which takes petitions directly to companies as a complaint on behalf of the consumers who sign them.
If, like me, you're unhappy about HTC's new policy of locking bootloaders to prevent people rooting and installing custom ROMs on their phones, then please go to this page and sign. It might actually force HTC to listen to its customers if we get enough signatures.
Thanks!
Thanks for the link.. signed and shared it everyway I could..
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signed it...... want this to go all the way to success.....
Signed
I hope this helps.
done. Already mailed HTC personally a few times. They always evade the point
thanks for the link - signed
Another signature added!
Fingers crossed for some action from HTC.
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Put it up on Facebook and some Android IRC channels that I know of.. Keep those numbers ticking.
not signed.
Signed and ive also put this up on my home forum and asked em to make some noise ... I love being an admin/global mod ^_^
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it most likely has no use, since most companys are stubborn as hell, unless they are actually losing customers that wakes em up....
but i did sign it for you
Hawkysoft said:
it most likely has no use, since most companys are stubborn as hell, unless they are actually losing customers that wakes em up....
but i did sign it for you
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what he said, i too signed...hoping for better future in HTC developement..
Signed it.
I think we should start some kinda' mass FUD against HTC. Something like - latest phones are locked because HTC wants to steal your data. Unethical, but serves them right - and will at least do some damage.
signed it too
You guys who have Twitter do what I did.. first write a tweet about the petition with the link and at the end add @htc
Also you can tweet again the same with adding mentions to Twitter accounts of known android forums or of tech blogs like engadget..
Spread the word ppl..
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Remeber to facebook and also post on your home forums ...
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I have updated the Incredible S, and Sensation wikipedia pages - with the signed bootloader info.
Nice, they just posted this on their Twitter account.
"Thanks for the feedback, we're listening! We're reviewing our bootloader policy. Stay tuned here for more updates. http://on.fb.me/jog8Wa "
It's a start.. but that doesn't mean we should stop pursuing the matter.. it could take months for htc to make a move..
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Seems Google just bought Motorola for $12.5 billion
http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/15/breaking-google-buys-motorola-for-12-5-billion/
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“We welcome the news of today‘s acquisition, which demonstrates that Google is deeply committed to defending Android, its partners, and the entire ecosystem.”
– Peter Chou
CEO, HTC Corp.
“I welcome Google‘s commitment to defending Android and its partners.”
– Bert Nordberg
President & CEO, Sony Ericsson
“We welcome Google‘s commitment to defending Android and its partners.”
– Jong-Seok Park, Ph.D
President & CEO, LG Electronics Mobile Communications Company
Do all three of these companies have the same press liason officer? Sounds like they're all reading from one script.
Guess we know where the Nexus line will be built now!
m1l4droid said:
Was because of the patents that Motorola was trying to sue others with?
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small part is for defence.
But its to force other android manufacturs to step up their game with updates and things like that.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110815-706430.html
Read it and was going to post it here. =)
This is awesome. Those of us in smaller Asian countries do not get access to any of the Google phones officially. Motorola already has a wide distribution network and a huge line up of models. This is a great news. More Googly phones for the rest of the world. Can't wait to see the next big release.
Google is going to buy Motorola mobility for 12.5billion US Dollars.
Are you happy with it? No Samsung technology for next next pure Google devices such as super AMOLED plus screen...
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Nexus phones will still be on a bid each year base. Android central have a report on it.
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iammodo said:
Nexus phones will still be on a bid each year base. Android central have a report on it.
http://m.androidcentral.com/motorola-wont-have-exclusive-nexus-devices-andy-rubin-says
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iammodo said:
Nexus phones will still be on a bid each year base. Android central have a report on it.
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Good good, let's make bets who's next? IMO it gonna be moto anyway, they seem to chose the highest sellers
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As a result of this news, Microsoft and Nokia both had their stock valuation uped.
Are there any downsides for Google?
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Patent issue.. Google needs patent pool...
Anybody else see the news on this? I'm hoping for great things in the distant future!
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This is a game changer for the industry. I'm not saying Google's going to come in and dominate now that they have a cell phone production company. This does mean that each business that competes in the cell phone market will have to re-evaluate how they approach the competition.
I'm hoping it'll also means we get some pure vanilla Android devices from Motorola like the original Droid was.....
I was thinking the same thing as far as the vanilla android. I'm hoping for a few more keyboard sliders like the droid line as well as quicker updates. Probably won't see it with the D3 but as future devices come out, and it'd definitely be nice.
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n0manarmy said:
This is a game changer for the industry. I'm not saying Google's going to come in and dominate now that they have a cell phone production company. This does mean that each business that competes in the cell phone market will have to re-evaluate how they approach the competition.
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I think the additional control they'll have will allow for better QC. I may dislike the iphone but I do see how working with everything so closely knit allows for a better device overall. I just hope the other alliance manufacturers don't catch a hissy over this.
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So far, no hissy fits LOL But this is also PR speak as well.
Peter Chou, CEO, HTC:
We welcome the news of today's acquisition, which demonstrates that Google is deeply committed to defending Android, its partners, and the entire ecosystem.
Bert Nordberg, President & CEO, Sony Ericsson:
I welcome Google's commitment to defending Android and its partners.
Jong-Seok Park, President & CEO, LG:
We welcome Google's commitment to defending Android and its partners.
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tcrews said:
So far, no hissy fits LOL But this is also PR speak as well.
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That's good so far! I'm sure google took special precautions before letting the news out so the other oems wouldn't feel threatened.
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Maybe this will mean quicker updates for us in the future, especially if the OMAP4 is the lead platform for ICS. I'd love it if the D3 and Bionic were the first non Nexus devices to get vanilla ICS.
I'm just thinking of all the possibilities now...(hopefully) we can get things like unlocked bootloader, faster ICS thats hopefully vanilla, and all that fun stuff now.
I was so surprised at this when I read it this morning I actually checked to make sure it wasn't Apr 1.
I hope this means unlocked bootloader and root is coming soon to this phone! Also, we need some ICS!
I did some investigating and learned that HTC was pressured into the statement by the CEO in part with a Petition on the site groubal.com.
I have created a new petition on that site for the Vivid bootloader issue....
SIGN HERE
ClippinWings said:
I did some investigating and learned that HTC was pressured into the statement by the CEO in part with a Petition on the site groubal.com.
I have created a new petition on that site for the Vivid bootloader issue....
SIGN HERE
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Fantastic!
Reclaim said:
Fantastic!
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Already have 4 sigs! Nice!
GSLEON needs to be informed of this petition. He already made a thread about this issue in the XDA General section, but there isn't a formal petition like this, just people saying if they support the cause to unlock the bootloader.
Just signed.
Signed the petition
Signed, hope this gets us somewhere!
Just signed. Now at 22
Signed. Good job.
24... keep it going!
Thanks for signing!
slapshot30 said:
GSLEON needs to be informed of this petition. He already made a thread about this issue in the XDA General section, but there isn't a formal petition like this, just people saying if they support the cause to unlock the bootloader.
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^^^^^^^^^^
slapshot30 said:
GSLEON needs to be informed of this petition. He already made a thread about this issue in the XDA General section, but there isn't a formal petition like this, just people saying if they support the cause to unlock the bootloader.
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DONE.
I've also added the convenient link to my sig
Signed
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I don't own the vivid, but I seriously considered purchasing it until I found out that HTC is not only keeping the device locked down, but that they are doing so after giving their word that they'd open it up.
For that, I went out of my way to purchase the Vivid, open the box, use it for a while, and return it to AT&T as a defective unit. Hopefully, HTC gets it back and finds the note I left under the battery door: Keep your word and unlock these devices.
(As far as I'm concerned, if a company promises something with a product but fails to follow through, the product is defective.)
In addition, being that this device is being marketed in the United States of Litigation, HTC might have opened themselves to a lawsuit for falsely representing their products... (I'm no lawyer, but if their CEO said they would unlock the device, and anyone purchased based on that statement, I believe there is a class-action lawsuit just waiting to happen...)
Take care
Gary
(currently using a never-locked Samsung GS2)
garyd9 said:
I don't own the vivid, but I seriously considered purchasing it until I found out that HTC is not only keeping the device locked down, but that they are doing so after giving their word that they'd open it up.
For that, I went out of my way to purchase the Vivid, open the box, use it for a while, and return it to AT&T as a defective unit. Hopefully, HTC gets it back and finds the note I left under the battery door: Keep your word and unlock these devices.
(As far as I'm concerned, if a company promises something with a product but fails to follow through, the product is defective.)
In addition, being that this device is being marketed in the United States of Litigation, HTC might have opened themselves to a lawsuit for falsely representing their products... (I'm no lawyer, but if their CEO said they would unlock the device, and anyone purchased based on that statement, I believe there is a class-action lawsuit just waiting to happen...)
Take care
Gary
(currently using a never-locked Samsung GS2)
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Amen.
Wanna sign the petition, just to help us out
Promises shmromises. They need to do it not because they promised, but because of Carrier IQ and the rape of their customers.
just signed. and shared on social networks
Signed. Requesting this thread be stickied
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Signed. Requesting this thread be stickied
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Better yet, vote for it to be sent up to the portal!
Can we all go and like my comment on HTC's facebook page at http://www.facebook.com/HTC about a soon to be enacted class action lawsuit against HTC for their deceptive business practices which are costing us money (the 35 dollar return fee when we have to take our phones back after finding HTC will not unlock the bootloader as promised by the CEO).
i dont know if this is already well known but i just came across it. here is a petition for motorola mobility to unlock the bootloaders. sign if you like, i just did.
http://www.change.org/petitions/motorola-mobility-inc-unlock-all-smartphone-bootloaders-2
This is very well known. Belongs in the general section, and there are already three other threads qwith this. And bout ten threads that turned into talks like this. All unlock talk has already discussed
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Sorry, just trying to help. My search turned up no threads like this, and theres really no reason to be a **** about it.
signed
Signed
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Sign my butt. This isn't going to work. People have been complaining about locked bootloaders on a plethora of Moto phones for years, and an online petition won't make any sort of difference.
shobon said:
Sign my butt. This isn't going to work. People have been complaining about locked bootloaders on a plethora of Moto phones for years, and an online petition won't make any sort of difference.
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This
Not being a ****. Just blunt. There are so many and people have been told alot so its too much to write a nice letter each time.
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edit: hope i didnt offend you though. im really just a blunt person, no harm :]
We have been signing petitions since the OG Droid. Never worked.
Rocking with my M3 and XDA app
signed
I don't have any issue with the concept of this, and I signed it, although I don't think moto cares given the size of the actual modding population. However, why do people throw around the word 'rights' so much? Really, it's a right? No it's a want... I know I'll prolly get derided for this but still... Right?
This convo has been had millions of times. really doesnt need to be repeated to the same effect where it changes nothin
Agreed.
Noble intentions, wasted time.
Either googlerolla will deliver or they won't.
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shobon said:
Sign my butt. This isn't going to work. People have been complaining about locked bootloaders on a plethora of Moto phones for years, and an online petition won't make any sort of difference.
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I agree with you 100%.
I still signed.
That's how frustrated I feel at all this. I'm reminded of my time with the orginal milestone. Checking internet every day to see if someone fgured out how to shoehorn froyo onto the thing. For some reason I thought moto would change... maybe it was because they said they would.
Yeah its a long shot for this petition to do anything, I very sincerely doubt it will. But I would love to be wrong. It only takes two seconds to sign it.
Signed also
While I've signed the petition, I have a ready-made solution that nobody has seemed to mention yet... stop buying Motorola devices.
I've enjoyed Moto's offerings since the OG Droid days, mainly because of the superior build quality, but due to Moto's lock down on devices, and their lack of willingness to placate us, the way HTC has done, the D3 will be the last Motorola device I purchase. Let's face it, performance-wise, Moto doesn't build top-notch machines, the screen quality is sub par, and support is non-existent. Build quality is the ONLY thing they have going for them, and with Samsung making moves to improve their own build quality, I don't see any reason to stick around.
Motorola is not going to change their stance on this matter, and as such, the only way we can really make them listen, is by hitting them where it hurts...their wallets. I believe over 10,000 people have signed the petition (not a huge number, compared to global Moto sales), but 10,000 units at $150 each, equates to $1,500,000 in revenue. Again, that number may be small by comparison, but I'm sure a $1.5m decrease would get someone's attention.
My advice to anyone who's upset enough to sign this petition, is to move to a company with a better track record of being development friendly. Quad-core offerings are on the horizon, and a new Nexus device should be spotted around Christmas...I'll be saving my money, and WILL be jumping ship as soon as I can. The Moto journey has been "fun", but it's time to trade build quality for better performance and support. I'm done buying phones that are (essentially) dead on arrival, and obsolete within 3 months of release... I urge the rest of you to follow suit.
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I signed it but it will not work every phone i have gotten they stop suporting it and i have had my droid 3 for a few mouths and some keys are not working right i have to hit them 3 to 4 times when i get the money and its very unlikly im going with a new phone with a unlocked bootloader or one with one that can have a good work a round but the droid 3 is a good phone dont get me worng i just need a unlocked bootloader that way i will have custom kernels and working cm9
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I would if HTC or samsung had a proper high end QWERTY phone
DoubleYouPee said:
I would if HTC or samsung had a proper high end QWERTY phone
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THAT!
i like HTC better than samsung, and being a fan of HTC since the S710 times...and having HTC dev around is pretty helpful.
BUT:
http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-drops-qwerty-phones-78268/
and
http://www.gsmarena.com/at_t_htc_one_x_not_part_of_htcs_bootloader_unlocking_program-news-4210.php
so...their methods are not perfect at all
DoubleYouPee said:
I would if HTC or samsung had a proper high end QWERTY phone
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Yes! That's my main issue . However a soft keyboard is looking more and more possible as there won't be any other options...