Hey all,
I've searched around and had no luck, so figured I'd ask directly
After bouncing between various roms, most recently cyanogen 6.12, I have been feeling like the low amount of memory on the droid is not considered with modern day apps. Are there any roms which have an emphasis on being minimalist and emphasize performance above glitter and features? I'm hoping to hold out for a Galaxy S II (USA - Verizon user here), but my droid is tragically slow. It improved since removing rom manager for whatever reason, and I have already moved all the apps I can to my SDcard, and I use clearcache.
Not really sure what else to do besides perhaps try to find another rom entirely. Any recommendations would be very much appreciated =)
Cheers
Mohdoo said:
Hey all,
I've searched around and had no luck, so figured I'd ask directly
After bouncing between various roms, most recently cyanogen 6.12, I have been feeling like the low amount of memory on the droid is not considered with modern day apps. Are there any roms which have an emphasis on being minimalist and emphasize performance above glitter and features? I'm hoping to hold out for a Galaxy S II (USA - Verizon user here), but my droid is tragically slow. It improved since removing rom manager for whatever reason, and I have already moved all the apps I can to my SDcard, and I use clearcache.
Not really sure what else to do besides perhaps try to find another rom entirely. Any recommendations would be very much appreciated =)
Cheers
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I think you might be able to try supercharging your Droid, zeppelinrox's thread explains it all.
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I had posted this on the Q&A forum and it was suggested I come here. Didn't want to seem completely inept, but alas, I am. Here is my questions from the original post:
I really need massive help. Obviously I am brand new to this forum and have absolutely NO idea what the jargon or codes mean in these threads. Overclocking? Rebooting into recovery? SU? Kernal version requirements? I am merely a car guy and will gladly assist in ANY and all car questions. This is what I would like to accomplish. Root the phone to delete the useless programs that are just taking up space. Namely, Amazon MP3, Facebook (don't even have an account), Goggles, Google Search, Latitude,Talk, Twitter, Voice Dialer and finally Voice Search. I figure I don't need many of these since when I do actually use most of those Voice type programs Vlingo is used. Am I wrong to delete so much? A ROM is basically the screen design layout and buttons correct? I am needing set by step (Barney style) instructions on how to accomplish what I would like to do. I currently have a Droid 1 with version 2.2.1; Build FRG83D; Kernel 2.6.32.9-g68eeef5 . If that makes any sense or helps in my quest great, if not please let me know what else is needed. I have Windows XP if that matters as well. So like I said, if you have car issues or just want a little more performance or gas mileage I can help. I'm partial to domestics, Chevy especially, but can definately assist with them all. Thanks in advance all!
I will answer the general questions and leave droid specific answers to other as i have a milestone (international version of droid).
First question:
Do you have any other reason to root besides deleting apps?
Are you running out of space?
Deleting apps will mostly let you reclaim space on your phone in order to install more applications. If you are not running out of space, this may be unnessary. This is especially true now that apps can be installed on SDCARDS. Space is now less valuable than it once was.
Another typical reason to root your phone is overclocking. This means running your phone at a higher speed than normal. This will help with games and general responsivness/snappiness of the phone. Potential side effect are higher heat and reduced lifespan of the phone. but if you are following advice here, you are most likely safe.
By the way, a ROM is a combination of operating system and applications. People customize a system image (programs, speed, themes, art, configurations) and distribue it as a ROM.
I hope this clears a few things up.
I am only asking because most people root their phones t
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I don't know what else is possible honestly to do after rooting other than deletion of the apps. My phone has at bet 60M or so of space when using task killer. I see the new phones have huge internal memory by comparison. I have moved every app over to my SD that I can. It does seem to move much more slowly than it did when I first got the phone back in April, maybe overclocking is a good idea? How much does it hurt your phone permanently. I'm used to holding a phone for two years at a time now. Thank you very much for the input. Is Milestone so far different that your methods won't work for me?
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I don't know what else is possible honestly to do after rooting other than deletion of the apps. My phone has at bet 60M or so of space when using task killer. I see the new phones have huge internal memory by comparison. I have moved every app over to my SD that I can. It does seem to move much more slowly than it did when I first got the phone back in April, maybe overclocking is a good idea? How much does it hurt your phone permanently. I'm used to holding a phone for two years at a time now. Thank you very much for the input. Is Milestone so far different that your methods won't work for me?
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Overclocking will make you phone feel like a new phone.
It is not VERY risky, but it most likely voids your warranty.
It is also not an all or nothinh deal. There are degrees of overclocking. For example, most phones in the droid/milestone series are set (factory setting) to around 550mhz. Many people set their phones all the way up to 1ghz (1000mhz). I don't.
I run mine at a max of 800. The phone runs cooler and the battery lasts longer.
I dont know how different the droid and milestone are. I really dont want to mislead you with bad info. You should break down your searches into bite sized pieces. Root first, then overclock.
I am certain that good guides are available on the site to root/overclock a droid.
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Hey CDMA Tab Owners,
Hopefully we get off to a good foot this time but I was really curious what some of your thoughts and ideas would be for a new ROM? I notice the selection is a bit thin with a single ROM for each. I've been dabbing around the last couple days and I think I have a fair idea of where development stands for the Tab right now. Primarily GSM but I'd like to start some CDMA development of my own. Anyone looking for something besides what is already out there? (Don't say a HC port , not happening, yet.)
I'd love to hear some ideas. My thoughts on this are to start easy and have a primary focus of making the tablet a better, well tablet. I like AOSP/CM6/CM7 as much as the next guy but they just don't feel right on a tablet. So I definitely am leaning towards trying to optimize the tablet experience as much as possible to differentiate it further from a phone. Maybe look into some custom apps, nothing is off the table.
Please keep this clean and thoughtful.
Thank you.
I've been so confused as to why there is such a small amount of development for the CDMA tabs.
Anyways, thanks for taking a leap...I think a custom ROM, for starters, should be something that is deodexed for theming capabilities and has all of the bloatware removed to save space. I'm not too worried about having an OC kernel, yet, since I tried the one that is out for CDMA tabs and my phone bricked
I am willing to test what you put out, so let me know what you are able to come up with
Liberty or something like it !
I own a Droid x as well as my tab and would love to see Liberty or something like it. I would love to see a pulldown bar text editor, the Liberty toolbox where you can tweak settings yourself. I like the Khasmek orange theme and Im running it now with Voodoo rom with lag fixes and running like 2200+ quadrant, it's silky smooth I love it but would love to see more color options and more attention to the device. Something that optimizes the system as much as possible to save the battery and make the device last longer between charges. Nothing too specific just want Liberty, Apex, Rubix (which I haven't tried on my X but hear its good) Doesn't even have to be named any of those names, can be a mix of all of them with a different name...I would really love to see more development for this device my hope was restored when i saw Khasmeks orange theme and put it on my tab !!
ok
apparently only like 3 of us care ! lol
Hello Everyone. I am a long time Android User, new to rooting.
Before I get too deep in this I had a general question....
I have a Droid 3 that I am finding to be slow compared to my stock Google Nexus One. I really enjoy the qwerty keyboard and don't want to go back to my Nexus, However the lag in the contacts autofill indexing and email autofill indexing is Killing Me.
I run my email, calendar, and contacts etc through the gmail/ google apps platform and REALLY want to get the speed I had with my Nexus One on my Droid3.
What would you recommend?
How can I speed this thing up and still have a very reliable phone?
I also need to be able to use the following features (which work now):
wifi hotspot
tethering
hdmi out
bluetooth
calendar
Thank you so much for any insight you can provide. I am really impressed with the knowledge base on this forum.
Much Appreciated.
I am by no means an expert in Android devices but can definitely tell you that the 'slow down' you are experiencing is due largely in part to the poor ROM/Skin that is built onto the phone by Motorola and Verizon.
I would recommend rooting and trying out one of the custom ROM's in the Android Development section.
I have an XT860 so there are no ROMs really available at this point but from my experience with my HTC Desire Z, there was a night and day difference in speed and usability of the phone after I rooted it and began using custom ROMS.
For the Droid 3, 'Steel Droid' seems to be a very popular ROM, but again I don't have any direct experience with it because its not compatible with the XT860 (Canadian GSM variant of the D3)
Hope that helped a bit...
i use steal droid its great. renaming your bloat to .bak will speed up your d3. if you do use steel droid just flash dlna back.
I am reasonably intelligent person, confident with technology, but am finding it difficult to make sense of many of the posts because of the jargon.
Is there a cliff notes version on how to do this?
I rooted my phone with the 1 click root.
I have also installed Droid3 Bootstrapper (but I dont know what it does?)
I believe this helps me build a backup in case the ROM fails?
Where do I go from here?
Thank you!
its also for flashing roms in the form of .zips
Check out this thread in the development section, it is for Steel Droid specifically but in the first post, just after the changelog, he gives pretty good instructions on how to flash the ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278056
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I am reasonably intelligent person, confident with technology, but am finding it difficult to make sense of many of the posts because of the jargon.
Is there a cliff notes version on how to do this?
I rooted my phone with the 1 click root.
I have also installed Droid3 Bootstrapper (but I dont know what it does?)
I believe this helps me build a backup in case the ROM fails?
Where do I go from here?
Thank you!
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Be like me my friend. Just start searching around the xda forums, on google, rootzwiki, etc. Start absorbing information. I started with a normal Droid 3, and within 3 or 4 days, I found out just about everything I needed to know. You are correct about bootstrap, and it also allows you to install system files, theme files, kernel files, etc.
I would recommend Liberty. It's mostly AOSP (Android Open Source Project) which means it's not bogged down by Motocrap. It flies, you can still have some blur elements and I have not experienced a single bug.
U need to root, install custom recovery, then I recommend installing a stock android rom from the android development section. Also try SetCPU to raise your processing power. But as said, the speed is mosly do to bloatware. You can also remove these without installing a rom, using root unistaller( must find of internet). Must be rooted though.
Please thank me if I helped.
Just my 2 cents, contrary to others I won't necessarily recommend flashing a CUSTOM Rom. But definitely update to the 5.6.890 to see an increase in battery life and performance, and root your phone so you can debloat.
I have seen no real improvement between custom ROMs besides the themes and user experience. however if you are satisfied with how your phone is running and have required apps you need to work, i'd just debloat the stock ROM yourself. it will be a lot faster with the bloatware frozen using an app like titanium backup. a lot of the custom ROMs end up having bugs, especially Liberty seemed to be causing trouble for some folks before the update. but basically all the speed improvements people are seeing is from the apps removed from running in the background that you don't need, so do that and youre good to go.
johnniekombat said:
I am reasonably intelligent person, confident with technology, but am finding it difficult to make sense of many of the posts because of the jargon.
Is there a cliff notes version on how to do this?
I rooted my phone with the 1 click root.
I have also installed Droid3 Bootstrapper (but I dont know what it does?)
I believe this helps me build a backup in case the ROM fails?
Where do I go from here?
Thank you!
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CHECK THIS OUT http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238472 THEN USE THIS http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1192795.html TO DELETE THE REST THAT THE FIRST DOESNT COVER. I KNOW THE SECOND IS FOR A DIFFERENT PHONE BUT DONT WORRY IT IDENTICAL. I PERSONALLY DELETED THEM. AFTER I CLLEANED UP DAVLIK CACHE AND MY PHONE FLIES ON STOCK ROM.
THEN DO YOUR SELF A FAVOR AND MAKE YOUR CAMERA BETTER WITH THESE SIMPLE THINGS. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271927&page=2, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326101
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U need to root, install custom recovery, then I recommend installing a stock android rom from the android development section. Also try SetCPU to raise your processing power. But as said, the speed is mosly do to bloatware. You can also remove these without installing a rom, using root unistaller( must find of internet). Must be rooted though.
Please thank me if I helped.
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What settings have you done in SetCPU??
I was having major issues with SetCPU when I originally set it up...
This was also when the phone just got rooted too though...
I thought we needed a modded kernel to do any CPU clocking things...?
Seirÿu said:
What settings have you done in SetCPU??
I was having major issues with SetCPU when I originally set it up...
This was also when the phone just got rooted too though...
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Set cpu will only allow you to underclock and change governor. I would only suggest switching the governor to performance, which beware will drain your battery faster, because its reported that other than stock governor and performance cause phone to act goofy.
Cannot overclock yet, we may not be ever be able to because **** bootloader locking.
Just Froze most of the bloat ware using the free Bloat Freezer in the market and am already experiencing improved performance!!! Thank you all so much!
I have gone through quite a few android phones in the past year since becoming a smartphone user (Droid X2, HTC Thunderbolt, RAZR MAXX). I keep hearing stories of the good old days about the original DROID, and then Daily Steals decided to throw up the device in retail packaging for 70$ shipped.
Given I've recently been extremely unhappy with my RAZR since the ICS update (no adobe flash support/comp ability for embedded videos, which was the main use for my phone) I decided 70 bucks was a small gamble to try and regain my satisfaction with my daily driver.
Given the small amount of RAM is the device still able to handle the apps of today? I don't use it for much other than streaming movies and TV shows aside from web browsing.
Can I expect to use this phone or did I simply purchase a piece of cellular history to put away in a sock drawer?
Thanks for any suggestions and input!
I just recently upgraded to the galaxy s3 after using the Og Droid for 2 1/2 year's, and the droid remained faithful to the end. Although it got to the point where I really had to tweak the hell out of it for me to be happy with daily performance. But if you just going to use it for light browsing and streaming with a minimalistic lightweight setup and a few tweaks you should be good to go.
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Thanks for the response. Were there certain programs/apps you needed to tweak for?
Any recommendations or must have tweaks I should implement right off the jump?
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Thanks for the response. Were there certain programs/apps you needed to tweak for?
Any recommendations or must have tweaks I should implement right off the jump?
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1.I'd recommend running Cyanogenmod 7.2
2. These build.prop tweaks and other mods http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426443
3. Limit the amount of apps you have installed and move as much as you can to the external storage
4. History eraser app https://play.google.com/store/apps/...edium=organic&utm_term=history+eraser+android to remove junk files like app chace and delete browsing history to keep things running smoothly
Edit:
And holo launcher as well
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Awesome list!
I was running my droid 1 on CM7.2 nightlies and Prime's kernel at 1.1GHz. I always used TiBU to delete system components that seemed superfluous, like screen tips, theme stuff, email client, etc. This freed up some memory for the ROM.
I tried swap and v6 supercharger but gave up on them.
The OG Droid is sincerely lacking the RAM for lots of apps, but will certainly run well as a light weight daily driver. If you don't need gingerbread (and continued support of the ROM) , then check out a froyo CM release. Should be very light weight.
CM7.2 nightlies are still coming out, although now on a weekly basis. I keep my OG updated even though it is retired.
Loads of people are using Steel Droid ROM, which is still being updated by the dev. I never tried it.
-CM7 on DInc2
I was using primes kernel but for some reason it kept causing my data to drop in and out. And V6 supercharger worked well for me in the beginning but then became pretty hit and miss performance wise. But like you said keeping things light weight yet efficient is definitely the way to go.
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Hi gang.
First off an apology if some of this/ all of this has been heard before. I spent all morning trawling forums and the internet in an attempt to fix the problems, but none seem to be anything I can deal with without getting some guidance from people in the know beforehand.
I have had my Galaxy tab GT-P1010 for a couple of years now and been very happy. It was origionally running Froyo, which is what the models ship with. Foolishly I presumed any updates from Samsung would be a benefit to the tab. The device is now rather clunky. Scrolling is slow and sluggish, programs crash without warning and the latest trick is that dialogue boxes are non-responsive (i.e. 'your phone will shut down: ok, cancel' does nothing when I press either option. Repeatedly. In rage.) The only option I have now for shutting down is to let the battery bleed out or hold the power key to switch off. I've tried things like factory reset, but even after reset, I'm still left with stupid old gingerbread.
Looking around there seem to be some options, but after reading through several times, I still have no clue. I understand that part of the problem is samsungs 'bloatware', of which there is plenty.
I'm not really sure how to go about it- I understand there are programs out there- Odin, Nandroid etc, but I'm a little lost on the lingo, and a little reluctant to go poking around without any decent knowledge.
Can anyone help? Or is this really a 'send it back to smasung job? It looks like I'm faced with these options:
1) somehow backdate from Gingerbread to Froyo
2) Strip out the samsung OS and install another launcher (which sounds like a can of worms to me)
3) send it back to Samsung and never EVER touch another one of their stinking updates.
4) another straightforward option that I haven't considered
Please help! (bear in mind I'm a total code-tard)
Return to froyo if that is the state where you are most comfortable with.
Another option would be, buy a new tab with better specs.
Sent from my boyfriend's home
Actually, the best solution is to UPgrade, not downgrade. There are many decent guides out there for modding your Galaxy Tab and flashing a custom ROM. Personally I've found that the stock Android ROMs (the device's OS, so to speak), particularly the older ones, are very slow in and of themselves. If you want, I can guide you through the process, PM me if you feel like it. Or you can PM a veteran like priyana, he has the biggest Thanks Meter I've seen so far on this end of the forums.
Modding your system, from personal experience gives you a major performance boost. You should first try this alternative before thinking about buying another device.
I scan the forum often, and thanks for the good words, geno,
But I don't know much beyond P1000 model.
But there are a few threads for P1010 that seems solid and has good followers.
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I scan the forum often, and thanks for the good words, geno,
But I don't know much beyond P1000 model.
But there are a few threads for P1010 that seems solid and has good followers.
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You deserve them man. Anyway, how different is the P1010 from the P1000? My own model, the NTT DoCoMo SC-01C, is actually nothing more than a rebranded P1000. Surely the operations can't be all that different for another model of the Galaxy Tab line. Does the Overcome kernel and ROM, for example, flash on other models or is it exclusively for the P1000?
EDIT: To the op, I actually did some looking around and found that the P1010 is something of a black sheep in the Galaxy Tab line. There are few, if any, custom ROMs for it, but there were a few threads that describe tweaks for performance and other things. They are the following:
Galaxy Tab GT-P1010 (WiFi Only) NooB Guide (you've probably already seen this)(you should also check the Thread Consolidation post somewhere there)
This thread shows some promise for CyanogenMod on your device, but it seems to have dropped off.
This thread might help you with your lag problem, as it (supposedly) brings you to the latest Gingerbread build.
In summary, though, it looks like I spoke too soon. There may, in fact, not be a better alternative than simply getting a new device. The Nexus 7 is currently hailed as one of the best Android tablets out there, and I find that it's pretty reasonably priced at $199 or so.
The open nature of Android is one of the reasons I love it so much, but if you can't do much with your particular device then you're not getting the most out of what Android has to offer. If I were in your shoes I'd probably switch if I had the money for it.
Anyway, that's the best I can do. Good luck with your device, man. If you ever decide to try tweaking it and/or need to ask some questions about the applications involved and other terms and such, priyana should be able to help you.
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Apparently the hardware is quite different. Your SC-01 is still quite close.
The heart of the ROM is the kernel and if the hardware is different, the kernel is bound to be different.
Not many top devs looking at P1010, so I think not much poking into the kernel been done.
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