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Will changing radio improve camera?

Hi,
Something I've tried to to find the answer to, but so far have been unable to do so - the camera performance has always been terrible on my tytn2. I've tried a range of different roms, but none have made any difference to the camera.
My understanding is that it is important to have a radio that works with the rom you are using, but can I get better camera performance by using a different radio?
Currently I am using "07/10[Super Ram][CHOME][Manilla] Josh's Kaiser Roms+Kitchen "21929 Hybrid Light" - a great rom, and my radio is 1.65.16.25.
I would really appreciate it if anyone can give me any pointers with this or otherwise help me get better camera performance (the tytn2 is an amazing phone, the camera is the only problem I have with it).
Cheers

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The camera is just whack anyway unless in ideal light situations.

Typically the camera will either work or not work at all depending on the Radio, unfortunately the Kaiser's camera (and all cellphone cameras in general) is not the greatest in low light so you are pretty much stuck with what you got.

Thanks for the responses. It's not so much the camera performance in terms of picture quality, but the terrible lag when taking pictures - there is a two second or more delay between pressing the camera button and the picture taking. This always results in pictures that are extremely blurred.

Turn off the full press and also the shutter noise...

I tried everything possible with my tytn to improve camera , however it was all pointless since it could not be done.

Well not quite. In my frustration with a few things which aren't perfect in Shifu's latest ROM (hey, it's pretty darn nice for the most part, even M2D is running well for the first time in my experience of over 20 WM6.5 ROM versions, mostly on the Elfin, 3 on this Kaiser), I did some searching for a camera video frame rate solution. Found one. I've already forgotten the link (since reading it this afternoon), but it's so simple there's no need to go looking. Here's the procedure. Works in any lower light situation, as in not broad daylight. Haven't test it it outside in daylight yet, but it might even work there, will find out tomorrow.
1) Open camera application.
2) Put hand over lens to create a black screen.
3) Turn off power. (This part is a bit of a stumbling block for those with slide to unlock or a password active - have to have those turned off for this to work.)
4) Keep the hand (or whatever, doesn't matter so long as it blocks light) over the lens for at least a second.
5) Take off the hand.
6) Press the power button again.
7) Start shooting when you like.
8) Enjoy what looks like 30fps video, much improved autofocus and shutter response times, and unfortunately, darker images. So still not a great low-light camera, but indoors in average conditions or even somewhat dim light it's not bad at all for a phone camera. Took me a few tries to nail down the procedure and be able to reproduce the effect every time, but five minute's practice at most.
Apparently the vast improvement in frame rate and general responsiveness globally in the camera's operation and settings dialogues is over-ridden if one points the camera at a light source or brighter reflective objects. I find it stays stable during a session even if I point it directly at a 20W halogen light from 6 feet away, but your mileage may vary.
Another tip would be to avoid the double-take of the autofocus algorithm. Bloody thing focuses on a half-press, then focuses all over again, blurring out then returning to sharpness, on full shutter press. So either go to half-press shooting, or use the D-pad centre button to shoot pictures and videos, as this is a single-stage switch.
In my case, running Shifu's latest ROM from December and his recommended radio, and just this evening flashing Kaiser-HardSPL-3.56, I find the video frame rate to be about 2 to 3 frames per second without this trick, and well above 20fps with the trick. Awesome. A little bit irritating too, having to do this silly little button sequence thing, but it's better than having to go hunting for my 'real' camera when a video opportunity presents itself and the Kaiser will take less than 10 seconds to get ready, and getting the proper camera will take over a minute of walking and digging and powering on... As has so often been said in web discussions of phone cameras, it's not so much the quality of your best camera that's important in everyday use, it's whether you have a working camera with you that counts. And this little trick makes the camera I ALWAYS have with me a whole lot more usable.
Now, if only there were a way to get Resco Audio Recorder to make clear 2-sided recordings of my calls. Worked like a dream on the HTC Touch Elfin. All I hear is remote, static-distorted voices with this Kaiser. Seems from discussions that this is a hardware limitation. Hope not. And it'd be nice too if the device weren't cranky about my 8GB microSD. Seems a tad unstable at times. Same for considerable numbers of other users, so maybe another hardware limitation? Hope it's drivers, and that some genius presents an update.

GerardSamija,
Yeah that's an old trick but not perfect as tends to dim the light and when hit by a large light flips back to the slow fps another one is to remove the plastic cover on case covering lens.
I gave up using camera unless outside & it's the same issue on Touch Pro even with the built in flash "well light really"
2 Side Voice Recording on Kaiser **WORKS**

Thank you very much for that stylez. I'm reading through the pages of that thread, and while so far the latest CAB there hasn't quite made decent quality two-way recording for my Kaiser, it's considerably improved from what it was yesterday. Nice.
Trying the 'old' camera trick (sorry for re-publishing ancient news - I've only had this Kaiser a few days, so just getting caught up. On testing it this morning I found a number of tries didn't work at all. Not sure why. Then just now I tried it again and it worked fine, though delivering only about 15 to 20fps, not quite smooth. I did back to back tests without and then with the trick, and there was about a tripling of framerate from A to B. Guess I'll just have to keep practicing to get it down solid.
And I probably will remove part of the shielding over the camera lens, carefully. The lens in the body itself has a flat glass cover so no real risk of damage there, as it's recessed behind the battery cover. Occasional cleaning of dust is necessary anyway with a pocketable camera, so this just adds the step of slipping off the battery cover to do that. The phone I have was used for a few months, then left in an office drawer for over a year. Not a lot of wear, but obviously some fine scratching of the coating on the camera lens protective filter. Removing it will improve imaging, and the glass lens cover beneath is about the same as on my old HTC Elfin. That one has held up very well.

I hear windex helps.

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I hear windex helps.
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lol ya i gave up using the camera really, i know im just caring around a big brick, with the advantage that its touch screen and has a keyboard... otherwise its not used much for anything else, unfortunately there are a million other phones that would meet this basic need, though im not getting burned by HTC again or any other phone maker...

I'm getting better at the timing with tricking the camera into responding quickly for stills, and getting 15fps and better almost all the time. This afternoon was fairly sunny here, and I shot a few videos of my son at the playground. Checking them later on my Asus 901 they look quite good. And contrary to many comments saying pointing at bright light kills the effect, I was able to shoot almost directly into the sun without losing frame rate.
Oddly, VLC gives an audio codec cannot be found error. Guess I'm off for yet another codec hunt. Windows 7 has mostly been pretty solid in supporting things like that, but I guess VLC stands apart from the OS in terms of codecs.
Windex? Nah, bit of a rub with a shirt end is fine. It's not a camera for making museum grade images. It's convenient, when I don't want to carry a bulky HD camera with proper optics around with me.

Small drop, autofocus broken

So, my phone slips out of my pocket while I was sitting down today. I pick it up, thinking that that kind of fall can't do damage, but I find that the clicking when I tapped the back no longer happens.
My first thought was to cheer, my second to check the camera app. Sure enough, the autofocus is perpetually stuck at minimum. Anyone experience this before? Is there a possible remedy?
I hardly use the camera, so it isn't critical that it ever works again, but as the saying goes, "The best camera you have is the one with you," and I was kinda getting used to the idea of a reasonable camera quality in such a small size.

Oh, haha, it's all fixed. I realized everything but the lens was solid state, so I tapped it against my table a few times at an angle with cloth on the edge a bit harshly, and a tiny click happened on the third one, dislodging it.

Do you experience issues with your camera?

Forum, I have HTC One M8. This morning the following message started showing up: duo camera is blocked, please make sure all lenses are uncovered.
Does anyone have any idea?
PS. All lenses are uncovered and thoroughly cleaned.
Thank you

Doesn't look like your case is the culprit. Having said that, have you tried using the camera without the case? Only time I've encountered this issue is when my finger was in the way of the duo camera itself.

Magnum_Enforcer said:
Doesn't look like your case is the culprit. Having said that, have you tried using the camera without the case? Only time I've encountered this issue is when my finger was in the way of the duo camera itself.
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I have identified the problem... defective camera itself. When i pick up my phone, and shake it gently, there is a rattle sound thats coming from the camera. In addition, the top camera (under the lens) rotates every time i jog or shake the phone. So in short, its defective camera, but since i do not have the coverage, im SOL for now.
Thank you

Note 9 camera buzzing vibrating on 2x zoom

I just noticed recently my Note9 buzzes and vibrates when I use the 2x zoom. It does focus fine though. Anyone else has experienced this?
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Mines doing it too. Did you figure out why ? The picture gets wavy too when zooming.

so its continuously buzzing when zoomed in or only when zooming for the small amount a time when switching to 2x

Didnt figure out why it does this. I even tried a complete factory reset. I will send it in for repair. It gets wavy and fuzzy if i try to focus and there is a bright lihht source in the frame. It buzzs and vibrates when it is trying to focus. It stops when it manages to focus properly.
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otacon888 said:
Didnt figure out why it does this. I even tried a complete factory reset. I will send it in for repair. It gets wavy and fuzzy if i try to focus and there is a bright lihht source in the frame. It buzzs and vibrates when it is trying to focus. It stops when it manages to focus properly.
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Yeah that doesn't sound right. I've got the N960F too and zoom works fine in all modes that support it.

My guess is the aperture is freaking out. When changing aperture manually, you can just barely hear and feel a tiny click. It something was wrong with it, it might be rapidly changing apertures causing the buzzing maybe?

I just tried and listened in a silent room and I hear nothing.

BigMosely said:
I just tried and listened in a silent room and I hear nothing.
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Put it right up to your ear and you might be able to hear it when switching. It's really quiet.

otacon888 said:
Didnt figure out why it does this. I even tried a complete factory reset. I will send it in for repair. It gets wavy and fuzzy if i try to focus and there is a bright lihht source in the frame. It buzzs and vibrates when it is trying to focus. It stops when it manages to focus properly.
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Yep that happened on my Galaxy S2 after 2 years of use. Trying to focus but buzzes until it locks in...sounds like a hardware issue. My note 8 is fine.

I just tested this and there's no sound when using 2x zoom in auto mode.

Mine is doing this too. I find if i shake the phone it will stop vibrating. It sounds like something getting jammed. I have this phone with T-Mobile and i have the jump plan. Should i send this to them to fix or replace? Or should I contact Samsung? I don't want to have to pay for anything if its a hardware defect on a phone I've never dropped. So its not damaged from me.

I have this problem from the beginning- 1 week. Now i have the new update but the problem is still there.
When the 2x zoom lens try to focus, it makes vibrations and weird noises, and it can't focus... on sammobile someone has the same problem, i think it's a bigger problem.
Should i call the "samsung guard n9" and get a new one?

I've just had the new firmware update which was mostly camera related features, and now on 2X I'm getting this buzzing. What the heck is going on? A quick search on Google reveals a lot of people seem to be experiencing the same...

jonboyuk said:
I've just had the new firmware update which was mostly camera related features, and now on 2X I'm getting this buzzing. What the heck is going on? A quick search on Google reveals a lot of people seem to be experiencing the same...
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Your camera is switching and focusing to x2 normal as it should, right? The only thing you notice is the sound that comes from the module when switching? If so, your camera is fine. Even my s7e have sound from the OIS like clicking... working 2.5 years later like a champ and a lot of users reported it. Guess it's something similar here. If the camera module is broken, it will not focus and/or lead to other noticeable problems. If the sounds is too intrusive for you, you can send the phone for a repair/inspection.

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Your camera is switching and focusing to x2 normal as it should, right? The only thing you notice is the sound that comes from the module when switching? If so, your camera is fine. Even my s7e have sound from the OIS like clicking... working 2.5 years later like a champ and a lot of users reported it. Guess it's something similar here. If the camera module is broken, it will not focus and/or lead to other noticeable problems. If the sounds is too intrusive for you, you can send the phone for a repair/inspection.
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No no, it's worse than that. When I switch to x2, when it's working normally it focuses and then it's fine. However, now it's failing to focus, the image is blurry and wavy and the device is physically buzzing (very gently but clearly attempting to do something mechanical and failing). Switching back to x1, it stops buzzing and focuses again.

jonboyuk said:
No no, it's worse than that. When I switch to x2, when it's working normally it focuses and then it's fine. However, now it's failing to focus, the image is blurry and wavy and the device is physically buzzing (very gently but clearly attempting to do something mechanical and failing). Switching back to x1, it stops buzzing and focuses again.
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The camera module is failing (you just described what was common camera module failing on HTC M8 back in the days, had a friend with it also), this can't be fixed via software, sadly it's for a service repair.

jonboyuk said:
No no, it's worse than that. When I switch to x2, when it's working normally it focuses and then it's fine. However, now it's failing to focus, the image is blurry and wavy and the device is physically buzzing (very gently but clearly attempting to do something mechanical and failing). Switching back to x1, it stops buzzing and focuses again.
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If you pinch to zoom while in camera mode does the zooming in appear wavey and stuttering? Someone else showed a video of this and it was a faulty camera apparently.
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Give mi 5 minutes i will post a YT link with my "buzzing".
https://youtu.be/YOmI_WbZQyM
Here you have it. I know- ****y quality, but you can see what the problem looks like.
Samsung call service said, that they hear about this problem first time. I can give it to the service but the door-to-door 1 day service dosn't work, becouse they think noting is broken...

boku95 said:
Give mi 5 minutes i will post a YT link with my "buzzing".
https://youtu.be/YOmI_WbZQyM
Here you have it. I know- ****y quality, but you can see what the problem looks like.
Samsung call service said, that they hear about this problem first time. I can give it to the service but the door-to-door 1 day service dosn't work, becouse they think noting is broken...
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They are mistaken...it's an old issue that even affected my Galaxy S2...something gets loose and it has trouble focusing right (hence the noise). At first it works anyways, but over time it can degrade further. Hardware issue...would get it fixed if under warranty.

otacon888 said:
I just noticed recently my Note9 buzzes and vibrates when I use the 2x zoom. It does focus fine though. Anyone else has experienced this?
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Mine has this issue as well. by any chance do mount ur note9 onto a bike or a motorcycle?

Question Slight Rattle from Camera array?

Hi all, I just got this phone today, Im loving the camera and I can't wait to go out and get some snaps with it. I have noticed there is a slight rattle from the camera area when placing the phone down on a hard surface or if I lightly tap that camera/top half of the phone. After some googling around some people have said this is normal for these types of phones and that its the stabiliser inside that moves around. If its normal then thats fine with me, I just wanted to ask if anyone can confirm this? Cheers.

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Probably normal if it has a mechanical stabilizer.
Check its functionality.

yes it is normal