Wifi (and BT!) Issues Were Hardware and Not CM7 Related! - Nook Color General

I've been having big problems with wifi on my NC since exchanging my last unit a couple of months ago because of audio buzz/noise issues. I'm running CM7 nightlies and have tried EVERYTHING suggested to get it to be more stable. It was the usual scanning - connecting - scanning loop that many people have described.
While troubleshooting the problem I downloaded wifi analyzer from the market and it was showing my home wifi network peaking at around -85dB while my laptop right beside it was showing approximately -40dB for the same network. I reverted back to stock 1.2 to see if was related to some driver gain settings in CM7 and only saw one or two networks appear in my scanning list (including my home wifi) but not the ~25 wifi networks which were showing up on my laptop.
I made it back to BestBuy yesterday and even though my unit was exchanged a couple of months ago, they exchanged it again for me. Of course I checked the packaging of the new unit to make sure it didn't have the infamous blue-dot-of-partitioning (BDOP) before walking out.
I booted the unit, upgraded to 1.2, nootered it, restored my CM7 backup and voila! My home wifi was up around the -45dB mark and I could now see all the wifi networks in the area which showed on my laptop. I connected and its been rock solid wifi since! The bonus was I was never able to pair my Plantronics bluetooth with my previous NC and this time around, it started immediately and paired right away with no issues. It even holds the connection a couple of feet away!
So after a very frustrating two months trying everything to get the wifi connection stable, it turns out it was an issue with the hardware itself, likely an antenna/solder issue. This also confirms (although I think it was already) that the BT/wifi antenna is shared.
Sorry for the long explanation but some of you who are having these wifi issues should download wifi analyzer from the market (its free!) and take a look at the signal strength graph. If its only showing a few wifi networks and access points which are close are showing in the -70dB or less range, you might have the same hardware issue I had...
Brian

Thanks for the report Bryan....Its appreciated because these issues are fairly common.

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[Q] Anyone still having wifi issues???

I have looked at every thread and forum possible for the past 2 months. My wifes nexus and my own connects to our home wifi for a few minutes then disconnects itself (weather the screen times out or not) and will not reconnect at all. I have tried the wifi fix apps on the market, changed the settings on my router numerous times, factory rest my router and phone, changed roms, and even routers but nothing seems to work. My wife's nexus is stock and not rooted so I have been using hers as a reference thinking it was maybe a rom I was using but she is having the same problem. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
sigep235
I had that problem but as soon as I got to 2.2.1 and/or used a newer Radio version, the problem disappeared...
Although, N1s are still very picky on routers...try with another router and check if it keeps the connection alive.
Also check your router settings to see if they're optimal (try having no password set and see if it keeps the connection...if it does then it might be a problem with the N1 not crypting information well or so)
You could also try updating the router's firmware.
Make sure your wifi policy is set to "Never" (go in wifi settings the press Menu and click on settings)
Last thing you could try is manually set an IP address + gateway + netmask in the wifi settings as well as setting your N1's mac address to that same IP address in the router...
If nothing works then, I'm completely out of solutions
I just got on to look at some of the settings with my router when I noticed that some times when my phone says I am connected to the wifi there is no IP address assigned to the phone. Under connected devices it says "android device" but with no ip address associated with it...
I still have the problem
I still have the problem. I have pretty much given up on it. I have heard that if you increase the minimum CPU speed a little, it will help. I'm not willing to do that as it will undoubtedly waste more battery.
I have changed the wifi sleep policy back to "when screen turns off", because having it on "never" would make the phone think it's connected..when it isn't..leading to hours of no email notifications and such. But I can't imagine how frustrating this must be for people who don't have a data plan or some other similar situation.
I'm thinking about getting a Wireless N router (I have a G right now) and seeing if that helps. But even if I was to get one, I don't have much money to spare so I'd probably get the cheapest N routers, around 30-50 dollars..and I don't know if those are any good...or if there really isn't any difference between the high priced and low priced ones.
I said this in another thread, but I'll say it here.
I tried all of the things everyone could suggest and none of them worked. When I heard Broadcom updated the driver and CyanogenMod put it into his nightlies, I bit the bullet, unlocked my bootloader and installed CM6 and it changed NOTHING. So I went out and bought a new router: Cisco E3000. It works great. So I guess it was a bad combination of phone and router. I had to spend hundreds of dollars. Really ****ing pissed me off. But I wasn't going to buy a cheaper router without dual channel wireless N.
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I still have the problem. I have pretty much given up on it. I have heard that if you increase the minimum CPU speed a little, it will help. I'm not willing to do that as it will undoubtedly waste more battery.
I have changed the wifi sleep policy back to "when screen turns off", because having it on "never" would make the phone think it's connected..when it isn't..leading to hours of no email notifications and such. But I can't imagine how frustrating this must be for people who don't have a data plan or some other similar situation.
I'm thinking about getting a Wireless N router (I have a G right now) and seeing if that helps. But even if I was to get one, I don't have much money to spare so I'd probably get the cheapest N routers, around 30-50 dollars..and I don't know if those are any good...or if there really isn't any difference between the high priced and low priced ones.
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Nexus has N connectivity but only on one band (2.4Ghz) and I don't think the technology matter (heck, I'm still on 802.11b ) it's really more of a phone/router combination problem...
I did actually test on my VERY CHEAP spare 802.11g router (DLink --> do not buy their products) and the connection did NOT stay...that was back when I was on stock FRG83 though...I should try again on Cyanogen but I'm wayyy too lazy ^^
btw, I really don't get why people always unlock when they wanna flash a rom....heck, keep your warranty!! there is an easy way of doing it without unlocking...meh
PS: I have a 50MB data plan (technically, I didn't buy a data plan, it came free) so I AM a heavy wifi user and it was such a pissoff to find out that my new Nexus One couldn't connect to Wifi and keep the connection alive...now I'm damn happy that it works after all that fiddling ^^
@sigep: try to assign a manual ip to your N1's mac addres...or update firmware, it definitely looks like a router problem...
The root without unlocking method wasn't too tested when I unlocked my bootloader.
I have made two swaps with no problems since.
pwig said:
The root without unlocking method wasn't too tested when I unlocked my bootloader.
I have made two swaps with no problems since.
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Oh kay sorry then
Although all the new wikis and todos should emphasize on the locked bootloader methods to avoid voiding warranties...although I admit fastboot is always noobproof but I digress ^^
I've been testing several routers from different brands, and the only one that seems to work fine with mi Nexus One is the Linksys/Cisco WAG160N (802.11n, but 2.4 GHz only). However this one has other issues of its own, like not being able to connect to mapped ports after two days up and running (not even from the LAN). The N1 works fine, thought, it doesn't disconnect overnight.
I've also tried an SMC (SMC SMC7904WBRA-N, I think). This one is really bad, the router freezes after only two days of use, the lights freeze and it stops working altogether. I returned it after a week.
I'm currently using a Sitecom (300N WL-348). With this one the N1 WiFi is dropped over night, and the connection to this AP is disabled. I'm still testing if moving to a less crowded channel could fix that. I hope it does, since this router seems to have a more stable firmware that the Linksys/Cisco, same WiFi coverage (which is quite good), and even better WiFi performance. Not all is good, though, DSL performance is worse.
In the past I used Netgear routers. The firmware was stable as rock, but the hardware not so much and after a year of use they are very prone to failing. No idea if newer models are any better in this regard, they are impossible to find, so I don't think this has improved.
Since I have DSL at home, I'm looking at routers with DSL modem built in, so I don't have to have two devices (DSL modem and wireless router).
From my observarions - Nexus will disconnect from WiFi when the IP it has is lost and the network doesn't supply IP on time. After 1 or 2 IP assignment timeouts, it will skip the network and refuse to connect.
Every router I've connected to that supplied IP on time, even when revoked every X min, didn't cause disconnects.
Of course, WiFi on sleep set to "Never".
Success! Last night I updated the firmware of the Sitecom router, and changed the WiFi channels (it's set to use wide channel, so it uses two channels). This morning the N1 had still a solid WiFi connection and over night it updated all services just fine (weather, Facebook, email).
I've been using the Sitecom router since my last post with no issues. Then last friday arrived a small update that broke WiFi. On Saturday arrived the bigger update to Android 2.2.1 but the problem with WiFi remains. Before 2.2.1 Wifi has been working fine every day at home and work, now with 2.2.1 it's broken at home and work.
Are we moving forward? If Gingerbread doesn't fix this problem I'll have to do something about it: try cooked ROMs or even getting another phone . Currently my N1 keeps disabling my access points all the time.

Wifi is killing me

I got my Nook yesterday and have been pleased with it up until now. I spent all day yesterday 2 feet from my router, with not problems but his morning I got up and took it downstairs and my wifi connection was weak, 1 bar or no bars was all I was getting. I took it back upstairs and even 2 feet from my router i'm only getting 2 bars. If I take it out my computer room the connection goes down to 1 bar or I loose it completely. Every other wifi device I have (android phone, laptop) work fine, no issues inside or outside my house. Just wondering if this is common or if I should consider returning my nook and getting another one.
EDIT: I have also rooted the nook.
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I got my Nook yesterday and have been pleased with it up until now. I spent all day yesterday 2 feet from my router, with not problems but his morning I got up and took it downstairs and my wifi connection was weak, 1 bar or no bars was all I was getting. I took it back upstairs and even 2 feet from my router i'm only getting 2 bars. If I take it out my computer room the connection goes down to 1 bar or I loose it completely. Every other wifi device I have (android phone, laptop) work fine, no issues inside or outside my house. Just wondering if this is common or if I should consider returning my nook and getting another one.
EDIT: I have also rooted the nook.
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Rooting should not have caused the problem, but it's pretty easy to go back to stock and check it. Also, have you updated to v1.01? It's supposed to have some fixes for wifi. Lastly let us know what router you are using, some have reported wifi problems with some specific routers.
I did the 1.0.1 update, I'm thinking of going back to stock and checking. My router is a D-Link WBR-2310 firmware 1.02
What is this the best way to un-root and reset the nook?
I just unrooted and reset my NC to 1.0.0. The wifi is still weak when i'm not in my computer room but it did stay connected with the little testing I did. I updated to 1.0.1 and while it was just as week the wifi didn't stay connected all the time. I don't really think the update made a difference. So now i'm not sure what to do, i've tried a few differnt settings on my router but didn't have any luck. Anyone have any idea's?
joel71 said:
I did the 1.0.1 update, I'm thinking of going back to stock and checking. My router is a D-Link WBR-2310 firmware 1.02
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joel71 said:
I just unrooted and reset my NC to 1.0.0. The wifi is still weak when i'm not in my computer room but it did stay connected with the little testing I did. I updated to 1.0.1 and while it was just as week the wifi didn't stay connected all the time. I don't really think the update made a difference. So now i'm not sure what to do, i've tried a few differnt settings on my router but didn't have any luck. Anyone have any idea's?
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D-link routers have been problematic for many people and Nook users particularly report the 615 as a problem for them (not your model) ... perhaps an easy way to check is to go to the nearest free wifi location and try to connect. That should tell you quite a bit. If the signal is acceptable at the free wifi spot, then you need to fiddle with the router (or replace); if the wifi is still weak/not connecting at a KNOWN good wifi spot then I would go back to B&N for a replacement.
I just called BN and they said to bring it in. On my way there i'm going to swing by hotel with wifi and see if I can get a signal in the parking lot. If I can then I'll save my self the trip. What are some good known routers?
I love my Netgear WNDR3700 with DD-WRT.
Good news, turns out it was defective. I pulled into the parking lot and couldn't even get a signal on there wifi. Got into the store, went over to the NC area and was checking out some of the display models, pulled up the wifi and they had a list of 15-20, mine had 5, and all with 1 or 2 bars. The girl was real nice, no problems, at all, she saw the difference in mine vs the store model, checked to see if I had updated then gave me a new one. Now I got a new NC and ready to root!

Galaxy Tab S2 5g wifi troubles

Hi, is this the spot to ask about problems with the stock tablet? If not, I'm sorry. If, so please help!
So, I got a tab s2 for christmas. So far I'm loving it, except it will not stay connected to 5g wireless for long! Sometimes it will kick me out every half hour or so of continuous usage, other times it will kick me every 5 minutes. The connectivity problem seemed at first like I just had to adjust something with my network except that any other device that uses the 5g signal does not have that problem! ALSO, sometimes when it hangs it completely freezes the tablet and I have to do a hard reboot (power and vol down buttons) to make it usable again.
At one point I was in the wifi settings page and saw the wifi toggle go grey. It NEVER reconnected after 3 or 4 reboots! Is there something wrong with this particular tablet or is this some sort software issue?
My router is a netgear r6250 fwiw.
Try changing channels on the router, you may have interference on the channels it's using
You can use InSSider to check for channel congestion.
ashyx said:
Try changing channels on the router, you may have interference on the channels it's using
You can use InSSider to check for channel congestion.
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I have been using Netgear Wifi Analytics to figure out my wifi dropping. I have no trouble with signal in the house...None of my other wifi devices are having trouble! As a matter of fact, just a little while ago, while testing the wifi on the tablet, the signal dropped. I pressed the home button then the whole tablet froze again. Instead of hard rebooting it, I decided to leave it alone to try to get it to unfreeze on its own. It did after about a minute...BUT the area near the volume and power buttons are was pretty warm/hot. The battery also lost nearly 8% in that time as well!
Does this particular one I have just simply have a bad wifi switch/modem/antenna?
I have the same issue. SM-T810 keeps dropping wifi connection to my netgear r7000. Both 2g and 5g. None of my other devices have the issue. Seems to occur a lot with chrome or anything else that saturates the wifi link.
I'd suggest getting the tablet replaced. I've disabled the 2.4GHz mode on two of my routers (ASUS AC66U and ASUS TM-AC1900) and my Tab S2 never had any troubles with 5GHz on these routers.
Anyway, no matter what obscure configuration your router might have, it shouldn't cause the whole device to freeze. Unless Samsung seriously screwed something up, even if the wifi driver crashed (in the worst case), the worst that would happen is that Android won't let you turn on the wifi.
I replaced mine yesterday and the new one is just fine!
I called the Samsung help line, described the symptoms and they said it sounded like a hardware fault rather than a software issue - took my reference number back to place of purchase and swapped it over for a new one. The new one has had zero issues, has not disconnected from wireless once or frozen and even just general browsing seems smoother - the first one definitely had some issue with the wifi bit.
This without even rebooting the R7000 router between the last bout of freezing and disconnections with the old tablet this morning and then starting to download all my apps and settings and wireless sync of 2 gig of data for the new tablet without a single hiccup two hours later. So the router or signal are not the issue.
MadFinn said:
I called the Samsung help line, described the symptoms and they said it sounded like a hardware fault rather than a software issue - took my reference number back to place of purchase and swapped it over for a new one. The new one has had zero issues, has not disconnected from wireless once or frozen and even just general browsing seems smoother - the first one definitely had some issue with the wifi bit.
This without even rebooting the R7000 router between the last bout of freezing and disconnections with the old tablet this morning and then starting to download all my apps and settings and wireless sync of 2 gig of data for the new tablet without a single hiccup two hours later. So the router or signal are not the issue.
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It sucks, but I'm glad I'm not the only one that had issues!

Random Slow WiFi problem

So today I started having a strange issue with my Droid Turbo. The WiFi speeds are absolutely abysmal. Everything was fine in the morning. Then I went out for a while and got home around 4, and my phone wouldn't connect to the WiFi. I finally got it to connect, but nothing was loading, so I ran a speed test and saw that I was getting < 1Mbps down and up. This was really strange because I usually get 50 up and 25 down. All my other devices work, including 3 laptops, 2 iPhones, a note 2, an iPad, and a Chromecast. My router is an ASUS Google OnHub, and I used my Turbo to set it up. LTE works fine. I've already tried the basic steps, including a cache partition clear, but nothing is working. Any idea what's going on?
Edit: so I did some testing and found out that if I hold my phone right up to the router it will give me the full speed. Once i move a few feet away it drops significantly. However, my phone still reports the signal strength as "excellent". I also tried this with a different network somewhere else, this time with a Cisco router, and the results were the same.
My wife's phone had all sorts of issues recently with Wifi on her Turbo. Longer story short, we found it was related to interference with her bluetooth (also on 2.4GHz) and possibly interference from neighbors. I'm not sure what changed, but I had her on 2.4GHz and she had all sorts of issues. I moved her to 5GHz which has resolved the issues (though it's much shorter range now, too). Turning off bluetooth seemed to help... but it didn't resolve it completely. The phone would say it was connected, but it wouldn't actually function online. We do live in an apartment complex with LOTS of 2.4GHz users and interference, so something in someone else's apartment may be interfering... obviously I'm not going to be able to figure that out with so many neighbors! Also, we have an Asus router... so that's why I figured maybe something is up with Asus's code or something, too... making more sensitive to interference?
Update: So I noticed that my phone was only connecting to the 2.4 GHz band, which is strange because everything else would connect to the 5GHz band. I messed around a bit and I found out that the range was just too short. When I placed my phone on top of my router, it would connect to the 5GHz band. As soon as I walked away, it would disconnect. So this leads me to believe that the wifi antenna inside my phone got messed up somehow.

Dodgy wifi

Has anybody had any problems with their WiFi not connecting? My device seems to fail to connect to wifi after a couple of days and just sits trying to connect. Toggling WiFi doesn't seem to resolve it, and I have to reboot the entire phone to get it back online.
No problem here.
Connects very quickly, never seen it fail to connect, even on my works dodgy BT homehub 3, which used to tie my old Z3 compact up in knots..
Yep.I thought that Snapdragon 835 cause this problem. Xi oami 6., ZTE z17 and Op5 had the same question with WI-FI connection.
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Yep.I thought that Snapdragon 835 cause this problem. Xi oami 6., ZTE z17 and Op5 had the same question with WI-FI connection.
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I have a sd835 s8 and I haven't had any wifi issues whatsoever since launch. It's a sample size of 1, but I don't know if it's truly due to the sd835
I haven't had any WiFi issues. In fact my WiFi connections have improved using the XZ1 compact over the X performance (the X performance dropped its WiFi connections 3 times during my data transfer to the new phone)
I've had my XZ1c for about a week now (European model) and it connects to my home network (5G) normally. Signal strength is fine, although the galaxyS6 it replaced definitely had superior reception. I do have wifi issues, but only when already connected to the network. When the phone is asleep (screenlocked) it seems to lose an active connection. The wifi connection should be on at all times, even asleep. It will show the wifi symbol, but data apps don't load, and it will have lost the connection as remote for spotify connect (playing on my reciever). It will also switch to mobile data at random times with normal wifi signal strength (even though I toggled this function off in the developper settings).
I'm not sure if this is something that can be fixed through system updates. I haven't seen any forum posts with similar problems though, so I'll try to document what is actually happening before I contact Sony support.
I bought the US version and flashed the UK firmware to get the fingerprint reader to work. No issues whatsoever with this phone. No Wi-Fi issues, overheating, signal strength, battery, nothing. Everything works just perfectly.
Same issue here. Mine is Europe (NL) version. The upload and download speed can be very unstable. And especially when I take it a bit far way, even you see that it's connect to the wifi with full signal strength, it said internet is unavailable.
I'm not sure if this related to the system update of last weekend or not.
Further to my issue. My phone will drop wifi connection and repeatedly try and connect - it usually cannot see any other networks at the time. Restarting the wifi on the phone, or rebooting the access point do not help. Running a packet sniffer on the LAN shows no activity, which indicates the issue is to do with wireless handshaking.
The problem occurs every few days and the only way to resolve it is to reboot the phone, which fixes it instantly.
I contacted Sony and they told me to do a complete reset on the phone, this didn't work. I updated my findings and pointed out that it's seems to be a firmware compatibility issue. Of course, you only get to talk to first line, and as a reset didn't work, they want me to send it off for a warranty repair (which of course will be returned with "no fault found" as no doubt their wifi will be different enough for it not to have been picked up on day 1 testing).
I'm currently trying to gather a bit more information on the fault, e.g. does it only happen on my home wifi etc. I've disabled channel bonding but that didn't help, and I've not jiggled my DHCP settings after seeing plenty of posts describing wifi problems on Oreo for other phones.
It doesn't happen frequently enough and I don't have the time to delve deeply into the network to identify the cause.
One interesting thing was that it went funny at home, but it was working when I got to work. When I got home it still couldn't connect. So I suspect it's to do with a particular compatibility issue somewhere.
no problem here conecting to 5 and 2.4 wifis...
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I bought the US version and flashed the UK firmware to get the fingerprint reader to work. No issues whatsoever with this phone. No Wi-Fi issues, overheating, signal strength, battery, nothing. Everything works just perfectly.
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I haven't gotten around to this yet. Do you still have wifi calling and volte available?
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So far my wifi has been fine...
Mine is worst, i couldnt get it to connect at all but all my other device including xperia xa, xzp, laptop, Ps4 PS3, everything connect without any issue whatsoever, already excahnged once and still the same.
Think mine is struggling with either a single access point or VLANs. I need to dig further, but that requires buying a new AP - this phone is getting more and more expensive!
exactly same issue as Dashers describes with my XZ1c. I am not watching it closely, but it seems that it is hapenning after around 2 days online. Never happened before on same network with my previous Z3c, which had run months without restart and any problems whatsoever (till its display died
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Further to my issue. My phone will drop wifi connection and repeatedly try and connect - it usually cannot see any other networks at the time. Restarting the wifi on the phone, or rebooting the access point do not help. Running a packet sniffer on the LAN shows no activity, which indicates the issue is to do with wireless handshaking.
The problem occurs every few days and the only way to resol... .
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I have more or less the same issues, and a reboot always solves it. It happens with both routers form ASUS and Draytek.
Additionally I see issues with Spotify connect dropping or not being found on my Sonos (hardwired to LAN), but not so much to Chrome Cast Audio on the same network.
I don't have a problem connecting to wifi, but I seem to have a different issue. Even though wifi scanning is toggled off in settings, my phone still seems to be scanning according to Battery Historian. I think this is one of several things contributing to my high idle drain. Does anyone else have this problem?
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I don't have a problem connecting to wifi, but I seem to have a different issue. Even though wifi scanning is toggled off in settings, my phone still seems to be scanning according to Battery Historian. I think this is one of several things contributing to my high idle drain. Does anyone else have this problem?
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Have you turned wifi scanning off ?
settings\Lock screen & security\Location\Scanning - turn wifi scanning off
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Have you turned wifi scanning off ?
settings\Lock screen & security\Location\Scanning - turn wifi scanning off
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Yes, wifi and BT scanning are both turned off in settings and have been since the beginning, but both seem to be happening anyway according to Google's Battery Historian tool. When I go back in to see if they've been toggled on by an app or something, they still appear to be off.
Dashers said:
Further to my issue. My phone will drop wifi connection and repeatedly try and connect - it usually cannot see any other networks at the time. Restarting the wifi on the phone, or rebooting the access point do not help. Running a packet sniffer on the LAN shows no activity, which indicates the issue is to do with wireless handshaking.
The problem occurs every few days and the only way to resolve it is to reboot the phone, which fixes it instantly.
I contacted Sony and they told me to do a complete reset on the phone, this didn't work. I updated my findings and pointed out that it's seems to be a firmware compatibility issue. Of course, you only get to talk to first line, and as a reset didn't work, they want me to send it off for a warranty repair (which of course will be returned with "no fault found" as no doubt their wifi will be different enough for it not to have been picked up on day 1 testing).
I'm currently trying to gather a bit more information on the fault, e.g. does it only happen on my home wifi etc. I've disabled channel bonding but that didn't help, and I've not jiggled my DHCP settings after seeing plenty of posts describing wifi problems on Oreo for other phones.
It doesn't happen frequently enough and I don't have the time to delve deeply into the network to identify the cause.
One interesting thing was that it went funny at home, but it was working when I got to work. When I got home it still couldn't connect. So I suspect it's to do with a particular compatibility issue somewhere.
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I have this exact problem. One second its 100% signal and is workin as expected. The other second it just drops and tries to reconnect like crazy. I have even had moments when i am unable to find my wifi after said disconnect. All my other devices is working like normal on my wifi. Using Asus n66u 5ghz.
I have been having the same issues as mentioned above with my XZ1 compact(european). My issues with dropping wifi signal seems to be happening when there are two different wifi signals to choose from. They are both on my local network. One is an extender due to the size of my house. When it can detect both signals, it can't make a decision on which one to choose. Once I remove a device(forget wifi device), it stays connected to the other with no problem. Since it isn't trying to compete with the other.
Has there been any improvement on this issue?

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