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why is there security on the g1/android

lets say you have all you stuff all pass worded with the apps you got the lock screen up. even the contact owner app to tell you call or email some one. so you think ur fone is fully protected right. oh and you have your wheres my droid app....i find your fone and just wipe it. i got a new fone fresh os ready for me to sign up and use your service.
thats what i think if i lost my fone. so is there an app out dere that can prevent/password home+power my fone and so no one can sell/use it?

Not yet...but you could ask cyanogen to implement a password-protected wipe feature? Plus just call your carrier and tell them to disable your IMEI number...phone will become useless

It doesnt really matter if the person uses the stolen phone, if they cant they'll just chuck it. Either way you're left without a phone...

AdrianK said:
It doesnt really matter if the person uses the stolen phone, if they cant they'll just chuck it. Either way you're left without a phone...
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If i found a g1 that doesnt seem damaged, i would never just throw it away. I would either sell it to some idiot or if i feel like i want maybe return it.

alritewhadeva said:
Not yet...but you could ask cyanogen to implement a password-protected wipe feature?
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If this was implemented and the hard-spl was still on the device then the recovery image could be replaced allowing password-free flashing again

there is app that allerts you if someone puts another SIM card in you phone and it does work I tried it. SIM card checker

madunix said:
If i found a g1 that doesnt seem damaged, i would never just throw it away. I would either sell it to some idiot or if i feel like i want maybe return it.
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Yeah, my point was that password protecting the phone so it can't be reflashed doesn't help the victim, they are still without a phone. Tbh it sounds like more trouble than good to password protect the SPL and recovery. What if you forgot the password yourself?
SIM card checker sounds good, but again that's useless unless it gives you some kind of information that could help you recovery the phone.

sorry to bump. but i wasnt home. okay so yeah we should have something to protect the recovery. also i would be happy, if a person went thru all that trouble to take my fone. thinking alright i can wipe it and sell it. then boom the recovery is pass worded. the sim checker app would not work. because they can just wipe your fone.
to the person. can i really call tmo and tell them my imei # to disable my fone?

so lets see, out of the million or so G1 owners in the US alone, how many of them actually know how to download, rename, and flash a rom? judging by the number of people who post ridiculous questions like "OMG I just renamed the rom i downloaded update.zip.zip and now it wont install! IS MY PHONE BRICKED?!", I'd venture to guess that not many people are going to go through all the trouble.
besides, this is why you have the 5.99/mo insurance on your 400 dollar cell phone, you know, in case you do something stupid, like losing it. that way, all you do is call up your provide, have it put into a lost/stolen suspension, and then talk to the insurance carrier and get a new one. I think the $50 deductible is a low price to pay for being an idiot if you happen to lose your phone.

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besides, this is why you have the 5.99/mo insurance on your 400 dollar cell phone, you know, in case you do something stupid, like losing it. that way, all you do is call up your provide, have it put into a lost/stolen suspension, and then talk to the insurance carrier and get a new one. I think the $50 deductible is a low price to pay for being an idiot if you happen to lose your phone.
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$50?!?!?!? WTF?
My girl dropped her first G1 in the toilet and lost her replacement. Each time Asurion charged her $150 deductable.
Whos your insurance provider? Maybe we need to move to Colorado...

kusotare said:
so lets see, out of the million or so G1 owners in the US alone, how many of them actually know how to download, rename, and flash a rom? judging by the number of people who post ridiculous questions like "OMG I just renamed the rom i downloaded update.zip.zip and now it wont install! IS MY PHONE BRICKED?!", I'd venture to guess that not many people are going to go through all the trouble.
besides, this is why you have the 5.99/mo insurance on your 400 dollar cell phone, you know, in case you do something stupid, like losing it. that way, all you do is call up your provide, have it put into a lost/stolen suspension, and then talk to the insurance carrier and get a new one. I think the $50 deductible is a low price to pay for being an idiot if you happen to lose your phone.
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Agree 100%.

oneG said:
$50?!?!?!? WTF?
My girl dropped her first G1 in the toilet and lost her replacement. Each time Asurion charged her $150 deductable.
Whos your insurance provider? Maybe we need to move to Colorado...
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What would you say if I got my replacement for free after dropping it.

supremeteam256 said:
What would you say if I got my replacement for free after dropping it.
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i got a free replacement also. my first g1 was dropped twice and i bricked it.

supremeteam256 said:
What would you say if I got my replacement for free after dropping it.
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i would say...great minds think alike or at least know how to cook up a good story.
I also dropped...er...threw it across the street in my drunken rage ignited by said lady...
I called TMO on her phone and told em it was a hardware issue: g1 just stop working....They had me troubleshoot, found i was still in warranty and sent me my replacement, absolutly free.
The warranty however doesnt cover water damage and she admited it was self inflicted thus, she was ineligible for warranty replacement and insurance was the only life saver.

oneG said:
i would say...great minds think alike or at least know how to cook up a good story.
I also dropped...er...threw it across the street in my drunken rage ignited by said lady...
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lol...........................

ugh!phone is gone.!someone stole it!!!Help?

OKay so heres the story phone is missing idk how but i set it down on this table in the foodcourt at the mall..i was getting my food..and as soon as i got back to my table it was gone!!!IT SUCKS!I NEED MY PHONE!!
But idk i have something i pay for insurance its 6$$ a month i know i have it cuz i pay for it on my bill and it says can be fixed ...theft,stole,broke,etc.
so theres it it got stolen!
What should i do?can someone help i really want it back!but its hard to find in a mall with billions of people!
Is T-mobile going to recover this?
Can somebody tell me what i need to do?because im not fixing to pay another 400 dollars for the phone.
Thanks
-Lilray979
OKAY IM ANGRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

why would you post this in the forum? this has nothing to do with XDA nor the dream nor q&a.
call t-mobile. if you pay for insurance..you need to call the insurance provider.

korndub said:
why would you post this in the forum? this has nothing to do with XDA nor the dream nor q&a.
call t-mobile. if you pay for insurance..you need to call the insurance provider.
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this has everything to do with the dream
n i only did because it saids questions and answers

lilray979 said:
OKay so heres the story phone is missing idk how but i set it down on this table in the foodcourt at the mall..i was getting my food..and as soon as i got back to my table it was gone!!!IT SUCKS!I NEED MY PHONE!!
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I guess hindsight is 20/20, but don't leave your personal belongings unattended if you don't want them to get stolen.
You could always try calling your phone. You could have tried calling a security guard to assist you if the thief turned up in the vicinity.
But since this occurred a while ago the best you can do now is just to file an insurance claim with Asurion.
Personally, I would be more worried about identity theft rather than the cost of replacing a phone. I suggest you immediately go change your Google Account password.

Did you have GPS and your "My Location" enabled? If so, track yourself down. lol

Find your IME and have your phone permanently disabled. Should be on the box.

lilray979 said:
OKay so heres the story phone is missing idk how but i set it down on this table in the foodcourt at the mall..i was getting my food..and as soon as i got back to my table it was gone!!!IT SUCKS!I NEED MY PHONE!!
But idk i have something i pay for insurance its 6$$ a month i know i have it cuz i pay for it on my bill and it says can be fixed ...theft,stole,broke,etc.
so theres it it got stolen!
What should i do?can someone help i really want it back!but its hard to find in a mall with billions of people!
Is T-mobile going to recover this?
Can somebody tell me what i need to do?because im not fixing to pay another 400 dollars for the phone.
Thanks
-Lilray979
OKAY IM ANGRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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really??? you put your very exspensive phone down in plain sight and walked away from it in a crowded area and when you got back it was gone?? wow i never would have though people could be so cruel, with the economy kicking ass the way it is there should be no reason for anyone to steal anything, we all have enough money to just go out and buy whatever it is that we want. prices are down on everything and my wages are up so i have loads of money in the bank and plenty in cash too.........
oh wait nvm that was all a dream, you screwed up and should have known better than to leave your phone on a table at the mall, no offense but you made a stupid mistake, change all your passwords and call t-mo/asurion

lilray979 said:
this has everything to do with the dream
n i only did because it saids questions and answers
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Come on guys..give the kid a break. Lilray, u asked what u should do, so I'll answer.
Kick ur self in the ass for leaving ur phone on a table in a food court at a mall with hundreds of people. I hope ur insurance laughs at u and refuses to cover on grounds of stupidity.
Oh, and before u unleash a childish and enraged response at me... remember, it won't make u smarter.

uansari1 said:
Come on guys..give the kid a break. Lilray, u asked what u should do, so I'll answer.
Kick ur self in the ass for leaving ur phone on a table in a food court at a mall with hundreds of people. I hope ur insurance laughs at u and refuses to cover on grounds of stupidity.
Oh, and before u unleash a childish and enraged response at me... remember, it won't make u smarter.
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LOL!!my bad its just...i was really hungry n i thought i had my phone in my pocket until i realized it wasnt in there when i got the money out my pocket!LOL
but thanks everybody i will change my password and file that repport on phoneclaim.com

Mi|enko said:
Did you have GPS and your "My Location" enabled? If so, track yourself down. lol
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and no by the way i never did because i read on a forum people said it kills the battery

lilray979 said:
and no by the way i never did because i read on a forum people said it kills the battery
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Do you have any other type of tracking program like Mobile Defense or something? Do you know your IME(or w/e it's called) #?

ThR1LL said:
Do you have any other type of tracking program like Mobile Defense or something? Do you know your IME(or w/e it's called) #?
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I use an app called Pinpoint or something like that. You send a text to your number (you would use someone elses phone or e-mail or something obviously) with just the word "Locate" and it bounces back with the exact location. Unfortunatly the thief will likely notice the text and shut off the phone. However if you keep your phone LOCKED then you won't have to worry about it. Another unfortunate possibility is that the thief will also more then likely pull out your sim.
In regards to the "keeping the gps locate off to conserve battery" do this.
Download and install Locale. Set up a rule with a high priority (move it to the top) that when you recieve a call from a specific number it will turn on your GPS. Then track it down that way. There is also Latitude with Google, Loopt, etc that can give you an idea of where your phone is as long as they didn't clear or wipe your data. But as I said... if you keep your phone LOCKED they can't do that in the first place. Which buys you some time because they will have to research to find out how to wipe the phone. Since most people would use a computer at HOME... you might be lucky enough to track him down there. Just make sure you have a 'black and white' with you and be prepared to give evidence that it's your property. The G1 box has the IMEI and if you don't have that call T-Mobile (if you got it from them) and they can give you the IMEI over the phone.
Hind sight is always 20/20, but you will get a new phone and being careless is a bad habit. And bad habits are hard to break. So you'll likely do it again even though you say that you've learned your lesson. So take precautions next time (if there is a next time).
1) NEVER LEAVE YOUR STUFF UNATTENDED.
2) Have security preventions (such as system lock) on your device.
3) Have some software to recover your device should you not do #1 and/or #2.
I've been doing the theft and investigations line of work for about 6 years and I have caught 8 people and helped recover about 20 lost/stolen equipment. I'm so confident in recovery (as long as the preventions are already in place) that I've risked my Tilt by setting it out as bait just to see if anyone would take it WHERE I WORK. It turned up missing in less then an hour! I tracked it down the next day with the coordinates that it sent me.
It turned out that one of my supervisors found it and took it home. BUSTED! The next day he resigned. So... trust no one. Keep your **** locked, backed up and on you at all times! Even at home! (Caught my girl sneaking through it a couple of times ).

Binary100100 said:
Another unfortunate possibility is that the thief will also more then likely pull out your sim.
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Sim Checker
I love this lil program and it's free, every time i even flash a new rom, it sends me the alerts

lilray979 said:
and no by the way i never did because i read on a forum people said it kills the battery
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next time have your own mind and make a better decision. android gets stolen and you need to locate it, Yes theres an app for that....

It is always nice to see so many helpful people who never make mistakes.
Anyway call your provider and tell them your phone got stolen. That way they can put a freeze on the SIM (and IMEI if you are in Europe). Then deal with insurance and get it replaced. Not a big deal.
Personally I have locale running but would not bother trying to recover a stolen phone. It is not precise enough to track down the phone in realtime. Sim Checker could prove useful but I am not sure it would be worth the effort if the phone is insured. Remote Wipe would be the direction I would go. The hardware can be replaced but the personal info on the phone I would just as soon not get into a stranger's hands.

You still have to pay even if the insurance covers for your stolen phone. That's what i heard? Not entirely sure though. Next time be more careful.. I never leave my phone out of my sight .

When Rooted do I have to go back to stock ruu it another account

If I can get one quick answer for how many times I might be torn apart for asking that would be great. Friday I added a new line to my family plan to get the evo. I am trying to put my hero running fresh 2.1.2 on another line that is one my account. I got it at Radio Shack and they had no idea what they were doing and screwed up my account. After a day and a half I finally got the accounts switched and when I activated the 3g wont come on the hero. I have all needed codes and have spent about 7 hours total trying to get it working. I am thinking about flashing back to stock but don't want to if not needed. Any help or at least a direction to be pointed. All else fails, I'm going to the sprint store.

Try it. Use the 2.1 ruu .exe in the 2.1 root guide. DONT DONT DONT accept the OTA when you boot or you can't reroot. Use the UNREVOKED.apk to one click root again.

feefeeboomboom said:
Try it. Use the 2.1 ruu .exe in the 2.1 root guide. DONT DONT DONT accept the OTA when you boot or you can't reroot. Use the UNREVOKED.apk to one click root again.
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Good looking out. Going to do it right now. Just out of curiosity, has anyone else had trouble switching accounts on a rooted phone

Not that IV heard.

feefeeboomboom said:
Not that IV heard.
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Yeah, I'm thinking i was cause where I bought it. The people I got it from RadioShack had no idea what they were doing. They thought I was crazy when I asked them to switch some esn's around. When I talked to sprint they said radioshack had been screwing up alot of accounts. So if are buying from there, have them do nothing but sale you the phone and activate it. Heading to sprint, quick question, if I go in there with a rooted hero will they trip?

svlittle said:
Yeah, I'm thinking i was cause where I bought it. The people I got it from RadioShack had no idea what they were doing. They thought I was crazy when I asked them to switch some esn's around. When I talked to sprint they said radioshack had been screwing up alot of accounts. So if are buying from there, have them do nothing but sale you the phone and activate it. Heading to sprint, quick question, if I go in there with a rooted hero will they trip?
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Depends on who's working and how obvious it is.
Usually they're dumb enough to believe you when you say "Oh, it's an app I found"

svlittle said:
Yeah, I'm thinking i was cause where I bought it. The people I got it from RadioShack had no idea what they were doing. They thought I was crazy when I asked them to switch some esn's around. When I talked to sprint they said radioshack had been screwing up alot of accounts. So if are buying from there, have them do nothing but sale you the phone and activate it. Heading to sprint, quick question, if I go in there with a rooted hero will they trip?
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This has nothing to do with the phone being rooted.
FYI indirect dealers like radio shack don't have the full ability to switch around esns among lines on an account.
Basically three things have to happen:
first you have to free up existing phones on existing lines. (only sprint can really do this, save for doing an upgrade)
second you have to change the account to reflect the new phones on the new lines. (indirect dealers CAN do this once the line is freed up)
third: you have to initiate either an auto ota programming, or use unlock codes to edit the mobile identification number and your mobile directory number (these are both usually your phone number, but sometimes the MDN is not) Again, only sprint can do this as they have the unlock codes.
Your RS rep probably didn't realize this, and only changed around your account as needed. Now, true, they should have just called Sprint and made sure, or had you make a call on the hero to make sure it was working right... but let's be fair, I'll bet at some point in your life you made a mistake where you thought you knew what you were doing and it turns out you didn't.
Line switches like this aren't common requests at indirect dealers. They mainly handle new account and upgrades.

I work at a Radio Shack and we regularly switch lines around like that, we do have to call it in to Sprint though. As with anywhere it's rarely the company and more the person working that's stupid.

canterrain said:
This has nothing to do with the phone being rooted.
FYI indirect dealers like radio shack don't have the full ability to switch around esns among lines on an account.
Basically three things have to happen:
first you have to free up existing phones on existing lines. (only sprint can really do this, save for doing an upgrade)
second you have to change the account to reflect the new phones on the new lines. (indirect dealers CAN do this once the line is freed up)
third: you have to initiate either an auto ota programming, or use unlock codes to edit the mobile identification number and your mobile directory number (these are both usually your phone number, but sometimes the MDN is not) Again, only sprint can do this as they have the unlock codes.
Your RS rep probably didn't realize this, and only changed around your account as needed. Now, true, they should have just called Sprint and made sure, or had you make a call on the hero to make sure it was working right... but let's be fair, I'll bet at some point in your life you made a mistake where you thought you knew what you were doing and it turns out you didn't.
Line switches like this aren't common requests at indirect dealers. They mainly handle new account and upgrades.[/QUOT
I sell att, verizon and tmobile for costco. I sell a lot of phones, but I've never sold a phone and sent the customer away with out the phone working and them to figure it out themselves. I usually reward salesman that overachieve and work for their commission by buying as much as i can. On the other hand I don't like to give credit that doubt know about what their selling. In other words, know what your selling, I always do and I've sold just about everything.
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G1 Updating Question.

So if since the G1 was discontinued, did T-Mobile ever say "were pulling the plug on G1 updates" ?
Or does discontinuing a phone send that kind of message?
Sent from my T-Mobile G1 using XDA App

Alanrocks15 said:
So if since the G1 was discontinued, did T-Mobile ever say "were pulling the plug on G1 updates" ?
Or does discontinuing a phone send that kind of message?
Sent from my T-Mobile G1 using XDA App
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No dis-respect, but where the hell you been ?
Yeah, your done. If your @ 1.6, that's it.
Flash something, it's well worth it.
Currently running Froyo 2.2 on a G1. That's "my" update.
If you don't know how, read the forums. You'll learn a lot like I did.

You don't have to be mean to the kid.
But yea when they say discontinued they meant that they are not selling it anymore. I also believed they are not doing the updates for it either. You can always call T-mobile and ask them they are usually friendly.
So if you are here asking this question then I am assuming that you already took into consideration of rooting your phone. Which at this point you should =] There are so many roms for you to choose from.
My question is if something happens to your phone i.e screen break, will they replace your g1 (under your protection plan) or upgrade you to a new phone for free? and i don't mean a brand new phone btw.

Wasn't trying to be mean, sorry if taken that way.
Assuming you have insurance, t-mo would give you a discount on a different phone after the deductable was covered, which I believe is $150.00 I asked that question when I bought the insurance for 5 phones.
Dropped, broken, lost, stolen or thrown against the wall. If your sim card's in it, it's covered.

crz6662 said:
thrown against the wall. If your sim card's in it, it's covered.
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Lol i wonder how you went about explaining what happened to them.

l2ed said:
Lol i wonder how you went about explaining what happened to them.
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Forgot 1, dropped in a toilet. LOL
Actually, the sales guy gave me all that info.
Lost my 1st G1 getting out of a truck.
Belt loop cases from now on, absolutely no clip cases.

Oh yea i know i have cm6 !
i was just wondering since they said they might update the mytouch 3g to froyo?

My phone was lost, tracking app has come alive!

Greetings good people of the xda-developers forum!
After a little reading around I figure this is the most apropriate forum to post this thread in, correct me if I'm wrong.
Earlier this year I lost my phone in a cab after a night out, the driver decided to keep my phone instead of turning it in (usually if you leave something in a taxi in this region, you'll have it back with a little humiliation from the taxi-central the day after, not this time though).
A couple months after loosing it, I got a "emergency message" from my lost phone, and it went on and off for a little while untill yesterday when it apparently was taken into use! I have an "invisible" tracking app installed that will survive factory resets and gives me the opportunity to take pictures, record sound and some more.
Anyway, the phone has moved a couple countries away since it was initially lost, so I've lost hope of reclaiming it. My plan now is to give an honest shot at making my phone the most annoying device the new owner has ever had!
I come to this forum now, looking for inspiration/ideas and warning where warnings are due!
Is there anything I really shouldn't do, that could come back and bite me?
What would you do if you were in my situation?
Any good ideas of how to bother this guy?
So far I've only really come up with the idea of wiping his data from time to time..
I appreciate any ideas or warnings!
Thanks!

vengeful said:
Greetings good people of the xda-developers forum!
After a little reading around I figure this is the most apropriate forum to post this thread in, correct me if I'm wrong.
Earlier this year I lost my phone in a cab after a night out, the driver decided to keep my phone instead of turning it in (usually if you leave something in a taxi in this region, you'll have it back with a little humiliation from the taxi-central the day after, not this time though).
A couple months after loosing it, I got a "emergency message" from my lost phone, and it went on and off for a little while untill yesterday when it apparently was taken into use! I have an "invisible" tracking app installed that will survive factory resets and gives me the opportunity to take pictures, record sound and some more.
Anyway, the phone has moved a couple countries away since it was initially lost, so I've lost hope of reclaiming it. My plan now is to give an honest shot at making my phone the most annoying device the new owner has ever had!
I come to this forum now, looking for inspiration/ideas and warning where warnings are due!
Is there anything I really shouldn't do, that could come back and bite me?
What would you do if you were in my situation?
Any good ideas of how to bother this guy?
So far I've only really come up with the idea of wiping his data from time to time..
I appreciate any ideas or warnings!
Thanks!
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it will not back bite you if have retail invoice of that phone do whatever you want

Isn't it possible, even with sim card phones, to call your carrier, report it stolen, and have it basically bricked so Noone can use it again. I know they can with like sprint and Verizon phones that don't take sim cards. But I've heard of it happening with sim devices too. I would just try calling your carrier.
If that don't work. I'd leave it alone. The person who has your phone now probably isn't the person who took it. Which is why it was sold out of the country. And that person most likely doesn't deserve all that crap
Contemplating getting the S5....

SaintCity86 said:
Isn't it possible, even with sim card phones, to call your carrier, report it stolen, and have it basically bricked so Noone can use it again. I know they can with like sprint and Verizon phones that don't take sim cards. But I've heard of it happening with sim devices too. I would just try calling your carrier.
If that don't work. I'd leave it alone. The person who has your phone now probably isn't the person who took it. Which is why it was sold out of the country. And that person most likely doesn't deserve all that crap
Contemplating getting the S5....
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That's the nasty part of stealing a phone. The Carrier will lock the "ESN" (Electronic Serial Number) so all they need to do is flash it over to another carrier... I.E. if you have a GSN type phone from say AT&T you can flash the software over to T-Mobile who doesn't give a flying flip about a stolen ESN (As a example) I personally have T-Mobile... They did try to make a law making req the manufacture to add a "Kill Switch" allowing the consumer to render the phone useless how ever that did not pass... SO Basically some one steals your phone that's it nothing you can do but buy another phone or hack into it like the OP..
TO OP: I'd go Impractical Jokers Style. Ease drop on him and play really dirty sounds (Porn sounds... moans/grunts etc) then Fry the phone... **** that guy he had to know it was stolen and if he didn't he's a fool... Check your ESN's People!

abhishek 9650 said:
it will not back bite you if have retail invoice of that phone do whatever you want
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For the record, I do have the invoice.
SaintCity86 said:
Isn't it possible, even with sim card phones, to call your carrier, report it stolen, and have it basically bricked so Noone can use it again. I know they can with like sprint and Verizon phones that don't take sim cards. But I've heard of it happening with sim devices too. I would just try calling your carrier.
If that don't work. I'd leave it alone. The person who has your phone now probably isn't the person who took it. Which is why it was sold out of the country. And that person most likely doesn't deserve all that crap
Contemplating getting the S5....
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It is indeed possible, but not flawless. There is supposed to be some automation to it in the country the phone was initially lost, but either this automation failed or it's sucess is the reason it left that country. Problem is though, the idea is that they block the IMEI from the networks, but some countries are not part of this agreement/system.
I think the guy who is currently in posession of the phone knows perfectly well how it was acquired. Judging from pictures taken through the phone, the taxi-driver and the current holder of the phone may very well be related. Also, the phone had it's language changed to Arabic by the taxi-driver, this has not been changed by the new user (not that it prooves anything). There is also the fact that the SIM inserted in the phone in the country I lost it in, followed the phone over to the current country, where it was replaced by what appears to be a prepaid SIM. I don't think this phone was up for sale anywhere, I think the taxidriver sold or gave it away to some family member coming to visit.
As mentioned, I have no hope of having it returned. I'm not gonna push this too far, but I do feel like putting a dent in his joy over his shadily acquired device.
Drooling a little over the HTC One M8

Tangodown78 said:
That's the nasty part of stealing a phone. The Carrier will lock the "ESN" (Electronic Serial Number) so all they need to do is flash it over to another carrier... I.E. if you have a GSN type phone from say AT&T you can flash the software over to T-Mobile who doesn't give a flying flip about a stolen ESN (As a example) I personally have T-Mobile... They did try to make a law making req the manufacture to add a "Kill Switch" allowing the consumer to render the phone useless how ever that did not pass... SO Basically some one steals your phone that's it nothing you can do but buy another phone or hack into it like the OP..
TO OP: I'd go Impractical Jokers Style. Ease drop on him and play really dirty sounds (Porn sounds... moans/grunts etc) then Fry the phone... **** that guy he had to know it was stolen and if he didn't he's a fool... Check your ESN's People!
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As far as I've understood, in the European countries that are part of this agreement any locked IMEI number will be locked out of all mobile networks, this can only be worked around by changing the IMEI number or shipping the phone off to some country that is not part of this agreement. In the country my phone was lost the police send a notification to the networks when they recieve a lost/stolen report. Not sure if it went through in my case.
My list of options are limited to what my tracking software allows me to do, sadly (or happily, depending how you look at it) my programming skills are not by far sufficient for me to go beyond what the software offers, allthough I reckon someone with the right knowledge could use the tracking software as a backdoor into the device?

Wow. I'll be honest, I never thought them tracking apps would ever give you anything useful, but if your able to basically see every picture they take, take pictures yourself...I think that's crazy... wipe the phone....
What exactly can you do with yours? Read texts sent and received on the phone? Does it gps track its location on demand? Even if the gps is disabled in the device itself?
You said the one you have stays on the device even after restores and factory resets? What's the name of the app?
As for the locked esns.... If an American cell company like tmo locks one up, is that gonna stick over any of the carriers in the US? Basically, all 4 of them?
Cuz I know before, as long as you had a sim card, it didn't matter, you just swapped it for a new one.
Contemplating getting the S5....

Wish they did that here... though the explanation was for the poster above me... Id use what ever i could to screw with him... what ever happens good luck messing with the dirt bag
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I would also like to know this app

Go the South Park route. Some cartoon parodies of Mohammed should be effective. Then again, if they are in a Muslim country they could get in a lot of trouble if they have certain content on their device.
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yea... Mocking Mohammad not general a good idea... it will get you killed. I wouldn't want that on any one's conscience

Tangodown78 said:
yea... Mocking Mohammad not general a good idea... it will get you killed. I wouldn't want that on any one's conscience
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No different than mocking L. Ron Hubbard or Jesus. All of them are con men and are fair game. Don't believe the hype.
I am very spiritual, believe in a higher power, but I will never bow down to some schmuck just because I am told to.
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c5satellite2 said:
No different than mocking L. Ron Hubbard or Jesus. All of them are con men and are fair game. Don't believe the hype.
I am very spiritual, believe in a higher power, but I will never bow down to some schmuck just because I am told to.
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Bro, dafuq, don't insult other members of xda. Calling religious icons schmucks will insult some people. THIS IS NO PLACE TO HAVE A RELIGIOUS WAR. So stfu and leave the thread back to it's topic. Thank you.

I'm using Cerberus. I had the same app installed without root access/without placing it in system/apps on another phone I lost a couple months earlier, in which case it gave me absolutely nothing. This one however, installed in system/apps with root access, appears to be "immortal".
I reckon they will have a comprehensive list of what you can do with the app on their homepage.
I don't know anything about how things are done in the US.
I'm not gonna do religious insults. I wan't to annoy him, not make him want my head on a stick.
Yesterday a sound recording convinced me he was in a crowded area, so I couldn't resist the urge to sound the alarm. Which is played at max volume. The picture taken of him when he touched the screen to stop it was not optimal, but it did have a feeling of desperation to it
App is still active today