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[PROJECT] Making a custom Back with cooling

Hello people of xda.....
I'm thinking of making a custom back for the nexus 7 that would remove lots of heat
what it would do is snap on where the old back went and would have
the back, printed on a 3d printer accurate to 2/100"
A 1 1/4" fan from radioshack
a rechargeable 9v battery
a switch for the fan
possible power and volume buttons
this case would be used for those of us who extreme overclock ex running at 1.6ghz with the gpu at 520 who want to rid of some heat.
WHAT THIS CASE WOULD NOT HAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wifi antenna
gps antenna
bluetooth antenna
Let me know if you would like to get in on this
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jombo2323 said:
Hello people of xda.....
I'm thinking of making a custom back for the nexus 7 that would remove lots of heat
what it would do is snap on where the old back went and would have
the back, printed on a 3d printer accurate to 2/100"
A 1 1/4" fan from radioshack
a rechargeable 9v battery
a switch for the fan
possible power and volume buttons
this case would be used for those of us who extreme overclock ex running at 1.6ghz with the gpu at 520 who want to rid of some heat.
WHAT THIS CASE WOULD NOT HAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wifi antenna
gps antenna
bluetooth antenna
Let me know if you would like to get in on this
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Why not to that extreme, what about a slimmer back with USB OTG built in and a slot for the USB, where u insert a small one and can cover it.
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tandeh said:
Why not to that extreme, what about a slimmer back with USB OTG built in and a slot for the USB, where u insert a small one and can cover it.
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Wow, thats a good idea, but it would have to go over the top a little in order to plug the connector in.

A USB OTG built in case, with a cooling system?! Count me in!

Count me in as well!
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what would you pay for something like this? it would be like 15$ for materials (Battery and fan and switch) plus an unknown amount for the otg cable that works.

Really hate to do this to you guys but I'm afraid it's already been done!
yes indeed for the low low price of $999999.99.99 you to can be the proud owner of the first true convergent nexus seven
features include
500gb extra storage space*
heatsink and fan*
multi card reader*
usb hub*
otg*
calling and texting*
shoot photos and video*
all the features that you know and love from the nexus 7*
all hooked up and ready to go*
* cables not included, *card reader not included, *usb hub not included, *nexus 7 not included, *hhd not included, *camera not included *nokia not included *otg cable not included *heatsink and fan not included *assembly not included nor the superglue required
Buy now to avoid disappointment!*
*disappointment included

ajpettit said:
Really hate to do this to you guys but I'm afraid it's already been done!
yes indeed for the low low price of $999999.99.99 you to can be the proud owner of the first true convergent nexus seven
features include
500gb extra storage space*
heatsink and fan*
multi card reader*
usb hub*
otg*
calling and texting*
shoot photos and video*
all the features that you know and love from the nexus 7*
all hooked up and ready to go*
* cables not included, *card reader not included, *usb hub not included, *nexus 7 not included, *hhd not included, *camera not included *nokia not included *otg cable not included *heatsink and fan not included *assembly not included nor the superglue required
Buy now to avoid disappointment!*
*disappointment included
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you almost made me **** my pants laughing.
but seriously, who would pay for one?

ajpettit said:
Really hate to do this to you guys but I'm afraid it's already been done!
yes indeed for the low low price of $999999.99.99 you to can be the proud owner of the first true convergent nexus seven
features include
500gb extra storage space*
heatsink and fan*
multi card reader*
usb hub*
otg*
calling and texting*
shoot photos and video*
all the features that you know and love from the nexus 7*
all hooked up and ready to go*
* cables not included, *card reader not included, *usb hub not included, *nexus 7 not included, *hhd not included, *camera not included *nokia not included *otg cable not included *heatsink and fan not included *assembly not included nor the superglue required
Buy now to avoid disappointment!*
*disappointment included
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I'm sorry, but I have the 8gb, coming from the Acer A500, and this is exactly how I feel right now, :/ I filled my storage up with nothing but apps, and still wanna get some more apps, and not a rear camera, ugh.

Brandonxcore said:
I'm sorry, but I have the 8gb, coming from the Acer A500, and this is exactly how I feel right now, :/ I filled my storage up with nothing but apps, and still wanna get some more apps, and not a rear camera, ugh.
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uh, you are aware hes not advertising what im talking about right?
im making a cover/caseish thing hes just bein funny XD

jombo2323 said:
uh, you are aware hes not advertising what im talking about right?
im making a cover/caseish thing hes just bein funny XD
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Sorry to go off topic, haha, anyways, my tablet doesn't get hot, I think the best thing for you to do is just add more copper to the existing heat sink, airflow will only drag dust into the tablet.

Just went and grabbed my hefty set of dial calipers! time to start modeling!
And also, i might put a small and thin filter (very small pores) inbetween the case and the fan but i think as long as you dont kick it under the fridge while the fan is on i think it would be all right
in order to hold onto the tablet without copying googles latches..... im afraid to say that
the back will have to come above the edge of the tablet and snap over the top just a little hopefully though. should solve the not level with the bezel screen issue that is stock. win win
EDIT* Facepalm, my calipers dont go above 6in how did i not see that coming....
how to measure corner Radius anyone?

Bumpity
Can someone find me a small, compatible usb otg cable that i can put in here and mount?

jombo2323 said:
Just went and grabbed my hefty set of dial calipers! time to start modeling!
And also, i might put a small and thin filter (very small pores) inbetween the case and the fan but i think as long as you dont kick it under the fridge while the fan is on i think it would be all right
in order to hold onto the tablet without copying googles latches..... im afraid to say that
the back will have to come above the edge of the tablet and snap over the top just a little hopefully though. should solve the not level with the bezel screen issue that is stock. win win
EDIT* Facepalm, my calipers dont go above 6in how did i not see that coming....
how to measure corner Radius anyone?
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You can try to get official/accurate specs from Asus or from a case manufacturer.

veeman said:
You can try to get official/accurate specs from Asus or from a case manufacturer.
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in my dreams.
anyways i just made a shell of what the case should look like for it to fit inside
now time to add vents and the fan mount area!
Just an update for some people....
a standard rechargeable 9v battery would run the fan for about an hour and a half
if i put 2 in there, it would make it balanced and give about 3 to 3.5 hours of fan life (about what you get with a fully overclocked kernel)
so what will it be, 1 or 2?
if you used non rechargeable 9v's you would get about 5.5 hours of fan life, 2 would get you 11 which would be good

So more development has happened
got the case "complete" afak until i can print a prototype which is a week or so
i know its a bit thick, but what do you want from 2 9v's and a fan?
i hope some of you will get excited about how development is actually happening\
Tell me whatcha think!

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that is amazing... lol
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jombo2323 said:
So more development has happened
got the case "complete" afak until i can print a prototype which is a week or so
link to a picture http://puu.sh/V7KP
i know its a bit thick, but what do you want from 2 9v's and a fan?
i hope some of you will get excited about how development is actually happening\
Tell me whatcha think!
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This does look quite nice I do kinda like the ability to use NFC though and have an overall lightweight device, but perhaps something like this would be nice on a stand instead? Then I can put my N7 on the stand, do some benchmarking, games, whatever else I want, and then when I want to travel, I simply take the back off and go back stock.

jombo2323 said:
i hope some of you will get excited about how development is actually happening\
Tell me whatcha think!
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Honestly? I think you're wasting your time and everyone else's. No-one is going to buy something like that to cool a gadget that doesn't even get hot in a case, which brings up another point, where would you find a case to fit your souped up N7 afterwards?
There has to be a more worthy project for you to spend your time and money on.

Troute said:
Honestly? I think you're wasting your time and everyone else's. No-one is going to buy something like that to cool a gadget that doesn't even get hot in a case, which brings up another point, where would you find a case to fit your souped up N7 afterwards?
There has to be a more worthy project for you to spend your time and money on.
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A lot of people here flash custom kernels to overclock their CPU to 1.64 GHz. In this instance, the device can get noticeably hotter after heavy usage...so this case will serve a purpose for some. Also, I believe the OP plans on integrating an inbuilt OTG mount, who wouldn't want that?!

Why don't you put a radiator, pump, and reservoir for kicks? A water-cooled tablet would be crazy badass!
Pardon the sarcasm. I believe people will be more interested in a built-in usb hub. Slap in a micro sd card reader in one port and 3 fullsize female usb in the other (for keyboard, mouse, portable drive, sixaxis controller, etc.). No more lack of sd card slot problem. Of course it will need a little tweak by swapping the mount points of the internal and the external sdcards, but it is doable.
If you want, instead of a micro sd, you can go for a multi card reader so the users will have options. Pictures or videos in the storage card can be viewed, edited, saved, or emailed from their dslr's straight to the tablet for example. The possibilities are endless.
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Support the project and be the first to receive the adapter. If the project doesn't get funded, your receive a full refund, nothing to lose.
Lot of discussion at the Nexus 7 forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1764017
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Just a random thought - they should make it bendable, so the card could be behind the tabet and only a small portion would be below the frame.

Magnesus said:
Just a random thought - they should make it bendable, so the card could be behind the tabet and only a small portion would be below the frame.
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Making it Flexible is on the roadmap, we are planning on doing it, however, that requires more much testing, and the mechanicals of that are more much complex. we need the initial push to get the necessary funding to get the design FCC approved and compatibility test with as much devices as we can.

Contributed for $16.
This looks like it will be really great! Good luck!

Maturola said:
Making it Flexible is on the roadmap, we are planning on doing it, however, that requires more much testing, and the mechanicals of that are more much complex. we need the initial push to get the necessary funding to get the design FCC approved and compatibility test with as much devices as we can.
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Call me crazy, but wouldn't one be able to do that with wired extension leads? I don't know a whole lot but it seems fairly simple to this 16 year old.

Will this work? I know it's not micro sd though.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0051D3KMG/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_gb?ie=UTF8
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Great Idea, I just sent you guys another $32 plus $10 for shipping. I hope you get enough support to complete this project.

cderrick14 said:
Great Idea, I just sent you guys another $32 plus $10 for shipping. I hope you get enough support to complete this project.
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Thank you for the support, We are having a really unexpected positive feedback about the project, specially internationally. We are on the right track, we just need some more support and spread out the word as much as we can. :good:

Lumsdoni said:
Will this work? I know it's not micro sd though.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0051D3KMG/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_gb?ie=UTF8
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No, it won't. It isn't for micro usb port. It works only with Samsung Galaxy Tab.
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Maturola said:
Thank you for the support, We are having a really unexpected positive feedback about the project, specially internationally. We are on the right track, we just need some more support and spread out the word as much as we can. :good:
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Yes, spread the word folks. I've tweeted, facebooked and google+'d the crap outta this and will continue to do so. I'm surprised you are only at the amount you are. It seems to me that this would be more popular.
Well I'll keep plugging this until every Android user i have contact with sees it.

groaner said:
Yes, spread the word folks. I've tweeted, facebooked and google+'d the crap outta this and will continue to do so. I'm surprised you are only at the amount you are. It seems to me that this would be more popular.
Well I'll keep plugging this until every Android user i have contact with sees it.
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Thanks, make sure to use your "custom" link to share, we are tracking referral, and if we are funded, the person with more referral will get a Nexus 7 32GB (More details at the website if interested).
We have a very large amount of visitors, many are interested but are holding up. Maybe to see if the project is going to get closer to its goal, or maybe they just want to wait for a more complete, retail ready from. I hope they realized that without the initial push we can't get there. All i can do is support, answer questions and spread the word as much as I can.
We have the Nexus 10 on order already, so we will be testing as soon as we get it. We are also prototyping a Build in storage option (A.K.A Micro USB Flash drive). :good:

So I already planned to do this with a microsd card adapter and an OTG cable for about half the price. That way I can connect a few devices at once too... Any reason I should spring for this instead?

manaox2 said:
So I already planned to do this with a microsd card adapter and an OTG cable for about half the price. That way I can connect a few devices at once too... Any reason I should spring for this instead?
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Hey Manaox,
Functional they are the same, depending on the quality of the OTG cable, speed should be the same (there are some cases reported that some really inexpensive OTG cables degrade the speed a bit), if you don't mind the size and having the "cable" hanging around, that is a perfect way to do it. that;s exactly what I did before I decide to design a better solution.
Personally, I hate that "tail" on my device, I rather have something smaller, that I can maybe have on my keyring or in a pocket on my case and i can easily plug and play. But there is nothing wrong with the OTG cable + MicroSD-USB adapter (or Flash drive).

chrishin said:
No, it won't. It isn't for micro usb port. It works only with Samsung Galaxy Tab.
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Shouldn't have tried to see that on my phone, thought it was micro usb.

Maturola said:
Making it Flexible is on the roadmap, we are planning on doing it, however, that requires more much testing, and the mechanicals of that are more much complex. we need the initial push to get the necessary funding to get the design FCC approved and compatibility test with as much devices as we can.
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What you really need to work on, besides keeping the size down, is some sort of clamp mechanism, as a strain-relief for the actual USB port (especially the pathetic shallow and sloppy port on the N7). Without that strain relief, expect to see a LOT of complaints about breaking the USB port.
Might also want to consider an "L" shape that runs along the edge rather than straight out. It'll be a bit trickier to manufacture but would make it far less prone to "snapping off" and it'll be less clunky looking if it doesn't protrude out as far.
Finally, if you're making it device specific for the N7, a ribbon cable (or hard cable) that does a 180 to the back would be ideal. The actual reader portion could mount in the middle of the speaker/Asus logo area. A few was to make this mounting work, from velcro to double-sided tape to semi-permanent plates mounted to the back with a clip or magnet, etc.
Actually, the more I think about it, a rigid cable sheath in the shape of a "C" would be ideal, if it was a tight fit (almost a clip) to the chassis. A lot of the torque that would be applied to the USB port would be absorbed/prevented by the reader portion resting snugly on the back.

Croak said:
What you really need to work on, besides keeping the size down,
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There is a lot that need to be worked if you want a quality product. Durability, packaging, signal integrity manufacturability.. many more
Croak said:
Finally, if you're making it device specific for the N7...
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We don;t want to make a Nexus 7 specific, we want to make it so it will work with as many android devices as possible, with or without a case (which doesn't allow to make flush to the edge)

I made myself one, much cheaper and easier, cost me about £3 total and 10 minutes to solder up.
See my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33978463
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alias_neo said:
I made myself one, much cheaper and easier, cost me about £3 total and 10 minutes to solder up.
See my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33978463
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Sweet! Looks easy!

great idea but here is something that will probably work fine. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1MR0ES0806
for $10 its worth a test

Leoisright said:
great idea but here is something that will probably work fine. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1MR0ES0806
for $10 its worth a test
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That will not fit on your Nexus 10, that is NOT a micro USB device...
EDIT: I stand corrected, I can see the MicroUSB on the side, besides the size, it should do the job. for that size of device I would much rather use a OTG cable, but it comes down to preferences

Nexus 7 CAD model!

Ok so here is a lil mockup. For probably 95 percent of accessories its good enough. I just took a pair of calipers to mine and here we have it.
solidworks: http://www.mediafire.com/?b8mjj6k9fj9cjzo "NO LONGER AVAILABLE"
IGS file: http://www.mediafire.com/?r8cernk6dbhgdqs "NO LONGER AVAILABLE"
I'm putting toether a dock right now
my calipers are accurate to probably .001" add a few more thousandths for human error lol. I'd say you'd be pretty safe putting your tolerances to .003. My only part i'm not as accurate on is the radius's seeing as i don't have the tools to more accurately measure it. But for a dock they aren't that important. IF anyone has more accurate info for them i'd love to update the model!
UPDATE! 11/10/2012
-went ahead and added the micro usb and 3.5mm holes.
-fixed the lower bezel to more accurately mirror actual bezel.
-added edrawing file
IGS: http://www.mediafire.com/?rciaf7ow7gup2v1
Solidworks: http://www.mediafire.com/?q814l4pahd464n2
Edrawing: http://www.mediafire.com/?gnccuce7aeo1mu7
UPDATE! 11/17/2012
-added pogo pins (4.2 supports the pogo pins FINALLY!!!)
IGS: http://www.mediafire.com/?p7o5tk9o7nvsp1c
Solidworks: http://www.mediafire.com/?2scckh8a2um43fb
Edrawings: http://www.mediafire.com/?5fv5c7r52689by6
UPDATE! 12/12/12 (ha thats fancy)
.STL File: http://www.mediafire.com/?abltaid6t6lzws4
(also Check out "STL file viewer" in the app store, lets you view your models, very smooth, works great!)
*** Nexus Docks***
With the arrival of 4.2 from what the forums say, the new kernal now supports the pogo pins on bottom. So i threw together a lil simplistic rough of a dock im thinking of getting printed out. The second pitcure shows the pogo "channel" i modeled in, so that i can wire them in once they come from china I would love your feedback (touchups rounding edges and whatnot havn't been done yet, but any big design flaws or suggestions would be great)
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bossman137 said:
Ok so here is a lil mockup. For probably 95 percent of accessories its good enough. I just took a pair of calipers to mine and here we have it.
solidworks: http://www.mediafire.com/?b8mjj6k9fj9cjzo
IGS file: http://www.mediafire.com/?r8cernk6dbhgdqs
I'm putting toether a dock right now
my calipers are accurate to probably .001" add a few more thousandths for human error lol. I'd say you'd be pretty safe putting your tolerances to .003. My only part i'm not as accurate on is the radius's seeing as i don't have the tools to more accurately measure it. But for a dock they aren't that important. IF anyone has more accurate info for them i'd love to update the model!
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what brand of calipers are you using and are they digital or dial? just curious.

Just out of curiosity what material were you going to be making your dock out of? I was debating with myself on what materials I should use that are easy to manipulate since I do not have access to the likes of wood and/or metals to mould it to the shape I want.

Your model is pretty good but I spotted an error with it.
On your model, the lower part of the bezel is drafted outwards but on my Nexus 7, the lower part is drafted inwards.
If you could add the USB port and 3.5mm socket it would also be even better. )
Dave...
PS.. I used the IGS file.

bossman137 said:
Ok so here is a lil mockup. For probably 95 percent of accessories its good enough. I just took a pair of calipers to mine and here we have it.
solidworks: http://www.mediafire.com/?b8mjj6k9fj9cjzo
IGS file: http://www.mediafire.com/?r8cernk6dbhgdqs
I'm putting toether a dock right now
my calipers are accurate to probably .001" add a few more thousandths for human error lol. I'd say you'd be pretty safe putting your tolerances to .003. My only part i'm not as accurate on is the radius's seeing as i don't have the tools to more accurately measure it. But for a dock they aren't that important. IF anyone has more accurate info for them i'd love to update the model!
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Well done.
Accidental thanks for the guy below you.
EDIT: Can't download without downloading installer because "non-validated" mediafire account.
Also, here is the link for eDrawings so anyone can look at it: http://www.edrawingsviewer.com/ed/download.htm

Lol, just skimming the thread title, I expected something with a maple leaf on it.

Ya I work developing orthopedic implants and at my office we have all sorts of fancy stuff, micrometers, optical comparitors, CMC machines. But thats there, and i am enjoying my weekend. But I bought an average 12" pair of calipers. Ya i actually colaberated a bit with one of my buddies on this to throw together a fast mockup, and the lower bezel was his, easy fix though. And ya i know i'm missing the ports. Two reasons they are there:
1. They would be next to no use trying to get their relative positioning accurate with a pair of calipers, thats a job for better tools i'll have to do later.
2. For my purposes of building a desktop dock, i didn't need anything but the outermost measurements, but once people work out the pogo pins i plan on wiring that into it as well
Also I was just going to put it through a 3d printer we have a the university i go to, and then finish it off with some fine sanding and high gloss black or something. I'll be sure to post the drafts i go through. Any and all constructive critism would be much appreciated, fresh eyes are always apppreciated.
Also I find CAD mockups to be in extremely short supply. I'd love for this to become a thread with some colaboration going on. If you make any improvements to my model, UPLOAD IT!!! Or just any ol thing pertaining to our beautiful device

h4x0rj3ff said:
what brand of calipers are you using and are they digital or dial? just curious.
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digital! so much less hastle

eDrawings file please.

irishrally said:
eDrawings file please.
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Ahh good call, yessir right away.

I had a lil time today, so went ahead and updated a few things.

Would love to download and look at the update.
Still get the "The resource you are trying access belongs to an account that has not yet been validated"...

Sorry there ya go should work now

this is awesome...thanks for this! i'm trying to build a car mount and this will def help. it looks like with 4.2 we can now charge via pogo pins. any chance you're gonna update this with the pins modeled?
thanks,
ron

ronaldeang said:
this is awesome...thanks for this! i'm trying to build a car mount and this will def help. it looks like with 4.2 we can now charge via pogo pins. any chance you're gonna update this with the pins modeled?
thanks,
ron
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Ya I was just reading that thread and actually went ahead and bought a 10 pack of those pogo pins from eBay. This is exciting news if we Can get a functional slick dock in the works before Asus releases theirs. Ya ill model in the pogo holes in tomorrow for sure. I myself am working on a dock obviously and once I get it printed out on the 3d printer ill be able to make the fine tunes to things like the pogo pins and other holes that are all the toughest parts to model accurately (as far as true position is conacerned)
Again for all you other drafters post your stuff up, let's get the collaborating going!

ronaldeang said:
this is awesome...thanks for this! i'm trying to build a car mount and this will def help. it looks like with 4.2 we can now charge via pogo pins. any chance you're gonna update this with the pins modeled?
thanks,
ron
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There ya are, pogo pins included

you're the man...thanks!

Open Format?
Is it possible to get those files in an open format (i.e. which can be imported into blender)?
PS: Great work

I know only a small bit of blender, you mean like. Obj or. Stl? I tried using 3d scan to export as those formats and it was giving me grief, do you know of an easier way I'd be happy to.

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I know only a small bit of blender, you mean like. Obj or. Stl? I tried using 3d scan to export as those formats and it was giving me grief, do you know of an easier way I'd be happy to.
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I found this guide via google: wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:2.4/Tutorials/Render/Import/SolidWorks
I run Linux and am therefor not able to try it via solidworks myself...
what programm did you use to create those modells ?

[make this] Pogo keyboad dock

What i want is a keyboard dock like the transformers. The problem is our little tablet inst big enough for a comfortable keyboard. So one of you wonderful manufacturer's need to make this happen. Expand the keyboard size to a decent comfortable level and add external speakers to the sides of the slot that the nexus 7 slides into. That way the keyboard can be much bigger without looking silly.
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Edit: I do realize that my op seems to focus on the keyboard, i dont know why i wrote it the way i did. The reason i mentioned the transformers dock was the external battery and not having to connect a device via bluetooth every time i went to use it. And for some reason i made the speakers seem like they would just be there to take up space when in reality what i ment was i actually want them there.

This would be so cool! If someone could mod a laptop keyboard to fit a N7 I'd buy it.

Search eBay or Amazon man, they're full of keyboard cases from faux leather ones to full up metal ones.
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Those are nothing like what i described. Not even close.

It's a full keyboard via micro usb or bluetooh that you can slide/click it into (since you really can't truly 'dock' it into anything since the plug is on the bottom and would have to be in portrait orientation to be truly docked), so it's realistically the closest you can get for the time being. Just trying to help out and give alternatives man.

Pogo pins. Hence the title pogo keyboard dock and the op saying like the transformer dock. Extended battery/keyboard + speakers. I don't know why you think a tablet with pogo pins that already has a dock with external speaker Jack that uses the pogo pins can't actually be docked to something.

I think the best thing to do would be to wait for i/o in May and see what the new N7 will be like (Is it gonna have pogo pins too) and then from there someone can make a kickstarter for this. I for one would be interested in getting one if it was availible.

I'd be all over a kick starter for this.

whiteguypl said:
Pogo pins. Hence the title pogo keyboard dock and the op saying like the transformer dock. Extended battery/keyboard + speakers. I don't know why you think a tablet with pogo pins that already has a dock with external speaker Jack that uses the pogo pins can't actually be docked to something.
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His post is more useful than this worthless thread.... He was trying to help.
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I'd be all over a kick starter for this.
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Kickstarter is the biggest scam. No rules or regulations, no guarantee.
I hope this doesn't ever get built.... Want something like the transformer dock keyboard.... Go get a transformer.
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I don't see what the problem is with using a case/Bluetooth connection and some sort of NFC tag maybe.
The keyboard cases are actually pretty awesome. There is an awesome clamshell keyboard case that matches the N7's completely... so when closed it looks like to N7s screen to screen.
I don't think the pogo allows this kind of connection to use with a keyboard. It provides power and the other is just to tell the N7 it is docked. Most pogo docks basically just enable Bluetooth when docked and stream music/connect that way.
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I dont have a problem with the bluetooth keyboard cases. I even ordered one before i posted this.
The reason i want something more like what i posted above is for the external speakers (i know that can be done because the actual nexus 7 dock has audio out) and for the external battery power. The keyboard is actually the part that i want the least.
In all actuality the keyboard could be gone completely and just a case with external battery and speakers would be perfectly fine for me, though the keyboard would be a plus.
Edit: I do realize that my op seems to focus on the keyboard, i dont know why i wrote it the way i did. The reason i mentioned the transformers dock was the external battery and not having to connect a device via bluetooth every time i went to use it. And for some reason i made the speakers seem like they would just be there to take up space when in reality what i ment was i actually want them there.
Edit: Edit: @krash183 lets try to keep our panties un-whirled.

whiteguypl said:
I dont have a problem with the bluetooth keyboard cases. I even ordered one before i posted this.
The reason i want something more like what i posted above is for the external speakers (i know that can be done because the actual nexus 7 dock has audio out) and for the external battery power. The keyboard is actually the part that i want the least.
In all actuality the keyboard could be gone completely and just a case with external battery and speakers would be perfectly fine for me, though the keyboard would be a plus.
Edit: I do realize that my op seems to focus on the keyboard, i dont know why i wrote it the way i did. The reason i mentioned the transformers dock was the external battery and not having to connect a device via bluetooth every time i went to use it. And for some reason i made the speakers seem like they would just be there to take up space when in reality what i ment was i actually want them there.
Edit: Edit: @krash183 lets try to keep our panties un-whirled.
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Edit: let's try to not sound like a prick when people are trying to be helpful
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Nothing I said was aggressive. What he talked about had nothing to do with what I was talking about. And I don't pick and choose how i word my replies based on whether or not a keyboard warrior will come and miss read it.
Might I suggest switching to Downey?

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Nothing I said was aggressive. What he talked about had nothing to do with what I was talking about. And I don't pick and choose how i word my replies based on whether or not a keyboard warrior will come and miss read it.
Might I suggest switching to Downey?
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And a keyboard thats not possible to be made has no business in being in this forum. Like it was stated before... Want a transformer dock... Go buy a transformer
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Again it can be made (we have the pogo pins) It just hasn't been yet. And I don't want a transformer dock a want a nexus 7 dock similar to the transformer dock minus the track pad plus external speakers.
If the Downy doesn't work for you try sun drying with light tumble and a snuggles sheet.

Keyboard dock like this would be pretty cool; it would finally allow me to only use my N7 for school instead of it and my iPad
On a side note, there's always some asshole(s) that come into every thread, best to just ignore them.

whiteguypl said:
Again it can be made (we have the pogo pins) It just hasn't been yet. And I don't want a transformer dock a want a nexus 7 dock similar to the transformer dock minus the track pad plus external speakers.
If the Downy doesn't work for you try sun drying with light tumble and a snuggles sheet.
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It's not possible... Find out what the pogo pins can do... Try again.
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Accept it is. And you don't know what your talking about.
I've heard that rubbing a dryer sheet over woollen fabric can help stem static cling.

While it can't be made the way the OP imagined, it would be possible to use pogo for power (and sound?) and have an app on the phone that tries to connect to a bluetooth keyboard whenever it is docked...
The existing fake-aluminum keyboard is quite nice, though. I know the OP was more interested in a speaker than a keyboard, but for me it is the opposite. I doubt this will be made, but it isn't impossible.

ldrn said:
While it can't be made the way the OP imagined, it would be possible to use pogo for power (and sound?) and have an app on the phone that tries to connect to a bluetooth keyboard whenever it is docked...
The existing fake-aluminum keyboard is quite nice, though. I know the OP was more interested in a speaker than a keyboard, but for me it is the opposite. I doubt this will be made, but it isn't impossible.
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Power and sound is exactly how I imagined it. I didn't know if the keyboard could be connected any way other than Bluetooth. But power and sound can for use the pogo pins.

Should I grab a Android radio now or just wait

I'm in the market for a Android/Smart radio for my car but it seems like the hardware may not be stable. I was going to grab this because it taps in my Spotify
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/DVD-Receivers/AVH-X7800BT

IMHO if you like Pioneer's buy an "Android Auto" & Car Play head unit, since now AA has become the standard for all future stock in-dash navigation car stereos.

Many auto manufacturer's are not getting on board with google
Saying it is becoming the standard is not true.
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lowridincrew said:
I'm in the market for a Android/Smart radio for my car but it seems like the hardware may not be stable. I was going to grab this because it taps in my Spotify
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/DVD-Receivers/AVH-X7800BT
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It depends on when you're planning to get a new car and what make/model you plan to get. If you don't plan to get a new car for 5 years, then I would consider it. If you plan to get a car next year, I would hold off and research models that come with Android Auto capability built in.
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Many auto manufacturer's are not getting on board with google
Saying it is becoming the standard is not true.
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Maybe you're not completely up-to-date...
Even Mercedes-Benz has lately chosen the Android Auto/Car Play platform:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66438898&postcount=2
A lot of car makers, if not almost all the most important, have already joined the Open Alliance for Android Auto, the true standard for the future...
See:
http://www.openautoalliance.net/#members
Curiously, you're posting in the dedicated "Android Auto" forum section..

lowridincrew said:
I'm in the market for a Android/Smart radio for my car but it seems like the hardware may not be stable. I was going to grab this because it taps in my Spotify
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/DVD-Receivers/AVH-X7800BT
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If all you want is Spotify you will be far happier with this Pioneer unit than an android unit.

I want all the other features but Sound quality is also a main factor

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I want all the other features but Sound quality is also a main factor
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Decide on your wants and needs and where to compromise. Your sound quality just wont be as good with an android unit. Or decide the cost of an android unit is an experiment and you can accept the cost/loss if you want to switch to a better unit.

I have the Eanon GA2114 and the audio quality is decent. Better than my stock REC NAV. Has a lot of features and didn't break the bank. Quad core rk3188 1gb ram and 16gb storage. 3 USB ports and lots of customizations. EBay them and you might find a good deal on an auction. They sell at 250. Got mine for 150. The canbus adapter was almost another 100 but it kept my steering wheel controls.
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pyraxiate said:
I have the Eanon GA2114 and the audio quality is decent. Better than my stock REC NAV. Has a lot of features and didn't break the bank. Quad core rk3188 1gb ram and 16gb storage. 3 USB ports and lots of customizations. EBay them and you might find a good deal on an auction. They sell at 250. Got mine for 150. The canbus adapter was almost another 100 but it kept my steering wheel controls.
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I had grabbed a Joying 5.1 Android Radio for $220. Someone had it Used Like new on eBay and it's in the US so I grabbed it up really quick. I'm going to experiment with it and I'm grabbing a American Bass Crossover or something else at some point to control my crossover and gain.

lowridincrew said:
I had grabbed a Joying 5.1 Android Radio for $220. Someone had it Used Like new on eBay and it's in the US so I grabbed it up really quick. I'm going to experiment with it and I'm grabbing a American Bass Crossover or something else at some point to control my crossover and gain.
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I got a gain knob and put it between my amp and radio. Works well enough but I feel there should be more power coming from the head unit. The sub hits hard at half volume and higher but is barely noticeable at lower volumes.
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I got a gain knob and put it between my amp and radio. Works well enough but I feel there should be more power coming from the head unit. The sub hits hard at half volume and higher but is barely noticeable at lower volumes.
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I'll probably do that too. Looks like I'll need a good inline driver. I'm guessing the Sub RCA preamp is probably like 1v.

lowridincrew said:
I'll probably do that too. Looks like I'll need a good inline driver. I'm guessing the Sub RCA preamp is probably like 1v.
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Any links for what I'd need to boost it?
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Nevermind. . Should be this:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=271810639893&alt=web
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pyraxiate said:
Any links for what I'd need to boost it?
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Nevermind. . Should be this:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=271810639893&alt=web
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Did you put a splitter on the Sub output to make it stereo?

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Did you put a splitter on the Sub output to make it stereo?
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Yes... But it's a mono sub. Wonder if that's why it's not as loud. Can I just use 1 channel since it's bridged anyway? It goes from 1 sub output, split in to 2 , then into the bass knob as 2. Then 2 back to the sub.
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pyraxiate said:
Yes... But it's a mono sub. Wonder if that's why it's not as loud. Can I just use 1 channel since it's bridged anyway? It goes from 1 sub output, split in to 2 , then into the bass knob as 2. Then 2 back to the sub.
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That should be fine. But I have to wait until I get my Android radio to give my 100% guidance to it. I'm ordering a Crossover for $40. I'll test it before the crossover and then afterwards. I think we can turn up the gain with a config file within the system but I don't know Android Development that much to figure it out on my own

lowridincrew said:
That should be fine. But I have to wait until I get my Android radio to give my 100% guidance to it. I'm ordering a Crossover for $40. I'll test it before the crossover and then afterwards. I think we can turn up the gain with a config file within the system but I don't know Android Development that much to figure it out on my own
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Hopefully we can get a dev to help with that. I couldn't find any settings .... Kind of stupid If you ask me. Theres a way to boost everything else in the factory mode EXCEPT the sub out. Bluetooth, DVD, av, radio, system volume, etc.... You can raise their values...... Just not the damn sub lol
Like I said, the bass hits hard with the volume all the way up. I shouldn't have to push the other speakers so hard though. I'm going to tinker around with switching it all to mono wiring even though my amp doesn't have a " mono " input. From what I read, I'm splitting the volts coming out of the factory sub out driver...... That may be why it sounds so low.
If that doesn't fix it, I have 2 rca rear out connections which should have plenty of juice to give.
I only have 1 other issue with my head unit I'm working on figuring out. Bluetooth call audio isn't coming through. It's the canbus adapters fault though and not the radio. Android head units default call audio to the front channels. My canbus adapter is using the rear for all 4 instead. No fading ability but I'm not worried about that. This is supposedly because I have a factory installed premium audio system ( Boston Acoustic speakers and amp ).
I'm thinking I'll have to swap front and rear wiring at the harness where I spliced them all together. That should give me Bluetooth audio back. It's either that or find a way to make Bluetooth calls route to the rear / all 4 channels. Bluetooth music does work though with no issues.
Those 2 things aside , I love my GA2114. Both problems are easily fixed ( 15$ in line driver being the worst case scenario ) .... It's fast, and looks awesome.
I should note that I'm running a custom Rom on mine. Made a big difference in usability.. Especially the DPI. When you get yours, check out Boroondock's ROM. Its awesome.
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