I'm in the market for a Android/Smart radio for my car but it seems like the hardware may not be stable. I was going to grab this because it taps in my Spotify
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/DVD-Receivers/AVH-X7800BT
IMHO if you like Pioneer's buy an "Android Auto" & Car Play head unit, since now AA has become the standard for all future stock in-dash navigation car stereos.
Many auto manufacturer's are not getting on board with google
Saying it is becoming the standard is not true.
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lowridincrew said:
I'm in the market for a Android/Smart radio for my car but it seems like the hardware may not be stable. I was going to grab this because it taps in my Spotify
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/DVD-Receivers/AVH-X7800BT
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It depends on when you're planning to get a new car and what make/model you plan to get. If you don't plan to get a new car for 5 years, then I would consider it. If you plan to get a car next year, I would hold off and research models that come with Android Auto capability built in.
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DAvid_B said:
Many auto manufacturer's are not getting on board with google
Saying it is becoming the standard is not true.
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Maybe you're not completely up-to-date...
Even Mercedes-Benz has lately chosen the Android Auto/Car Play platform:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66438898&postcount=2
A lot of car makers, if not almost all the most important, have already joined the Open Alliance for Android Auto, the true standard for the future...
See:
http://www.openautoalliance.net/#members
Curiously, you're posting in the dedicated "Android Auto" forum section..
lowridincrew said:
I'm in the market for a Android/Smart radio for my car but it seems like the hardware may not be stable. I was going to grab this because it taps in my Spotify
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/DVD-Receivers/AVH-X7800BT
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If all you want is Spotify you will be far happier with this Pioneer unit than an android unit.
I want all the other features but Sound quality is also a main factor
lowridincrew said:
I want all the other features but Sound quality is also a main factor
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Decide on your wants and needs and where to compromise. Your sound quality just wont be as good with an android unit. Or decide the cost of an android unit is an experiment and you can accept the cost/loss if you want to switch to a better unit.
I have the Eanon GA2114 and the audio quality is decent. Better than my stock REC NAV. Has a lot of features and didn't break the bank. Quad core rk3188 1gb ram and 16gb storage. 3 USB ports and lots of customizations. EBay them and you might find a good deal on an auction. They sell at 250. Got mine for 150. The canbus adapter was almost another 100 but it kept my steering wheel controls.
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pyraxiate said:
I have the Eanon GA2114 and the audio quality is decent. Better than my stock REC NAV. Has a lot of features and didn't break the bank. Quad core rk3188 1gb ram and 16gb storage. 3 USB ports and lots of customizations. EBay them and you might find a good deal on an auction. They sell at 250. Got mine for 150. The canbus adapter was almost another 100 but it kept my steering wheel controls.
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I had grabbed a Joying 5.1 Android Radio for $220. Someone had it Used Like new on eBay and it's in the US so I grabbed it up really quick. I'm going to experiment with it and I'm grabbing a American Bass Crossover or something else at some point to control my crossover and gain.
lowridincrew said:
I had grabbed a Joying 5.1 Android Radio for $220. Someone had it Used Like new on eBay and it's in the US so I grabbed it up really quick. I'm going to experiment with it and I'm grabbing a American Bass Crossover or something else at some point to control my crossover and gain.
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I got a gain knob and put it between my amp and radio. Works well enough but I feel there should be more power coming from the head unit. The sub hits hard at half volume and higher but is barely noticeable at lower volumes.
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I got a gain knob and put it between my amp and radio. Works well enough but I feel there should be more power coming from the head unit. The sub hits hard at half volume and higher but is barely noticeable at lower volumes.
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I'll probably do that too. Looks like I'll need a good inline driver. I'm guessing the Sub RCA preamp is probably like 1v.
lowridincrew said:
I'll probably do that too. Looks like I'll need a good inline driver. I'm guessing the Sub RCA preamp is probably like 1v.
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Any links for what I'd need to boost it?
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Nevermind. . Should be this:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=271810639893&alt=web
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Any links for what I'd need to boost it?
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Nevermind. . Should be this:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=271810639893&alt=web
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Did you put a splitter on the Sub output to make it stereo?
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Did you put a splitter on the Sub output to make it stereo?
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Yes... But it's a mono sub. Wonder if that's why it's not as loud. Can I just use 1 channel since it's bridged anyway? It goes from 1 sub output, split in to 2 , then into the bass knob as 2. Then 2 back to the sub.
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pyraxiate said:
Yes... But it's a mono sub. Wonder if that's why it's not as loud. Can I just use 1 channel since it's bridged anyway? It goes from 1 sub output, split in to 2 , then into the bass knob as 2. Then 2 back to the sub.
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That should be fine. But I have to wait until I get my Android radio to give my 100% guidance to it. I'm ordering a Crossover for $40. I'll test it before the crossover and then afterwards. I think we can turn up the gain with a config file within the system but I don't know Android Development that much to figure it out on my own
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That should be fine. But I have to wait until I get my Android radio to give my 100% guidance to it. I'm ordering a Crossover for $40. I'll test it before the crossover and then afterwards. I think we can turn up the gain with a config file within the system but I don't know Android Development that much to figure it out on my own
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Hopefully we can get a dev to help with that. I couldn't find any settings .... Kind of stupid If you ask me. Theres a way to boost everything else in the factory mode EXCEPT the sub out. Bluetooth, DVD, av, radio, system volume, etc.... You can raise their values...... Just not the damn sub lol
Like I said, the bass hits hard with the volume all the way up. I shouldn't have to push the other speakers so hard though. I'm going to tinker around with switching it all to mono wiring even though my amp doesn't have a " mono " input. From what I read, I'm splitting the volts coming out of the factory sub out driver...... That may be why it sounds so low.
If that doesn't fix it, I have 2 rca rear out connections which should have plenty of juice to give.
I only have 1 other issue with my head unit I'm working on figuring out. Bluetooth call audio isn't coming through. It's the canbus adapters fault though and not the radio. Android head units default call audio to the front channels. My canbus adapter is using the rear for all 4 instead. No fading ability but I'm not worried about that. This is supposedly because I have a factory installed premium audio system ( Boston Acoustic speakers and amp ).
I'm thinking I'll have to swap front and rear wiring at the harness where I spliced them all together. That should give me Bluetooth audio back. It's either that or find a way to make Bluetooth calls route to the rear / all 4 channels. Bluetooth music does work though with no issues.
Those 2 things aside , I love my GA2114. Both problems are easily fixed ( 15$ in line driver being the worst case scenario ) .... It's fast, and looks awesome.
I should note that I'm running a custom Rom on mine. Made a big difference in usability.. Especially the DPI. When you get yours, check out Boroondock's ROM. Its awesome.
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I'm interested in replacing a double din headunit with the galaxy.
Can you post pictures/tips/comments on how you have accomplished this?
Ideally I'd like something that could pass tech inspection for autocross (a type of autoracing).
I did see this and thought it was pretty interesting:
...ugh I have a couple of youtube links, but can't post them until I get my post count up.
I was also interested in doing this. I would imagine if you could mount it so that it was recessed/clamped in, that it would pass tech inspection. Though you would prolly have to go through the official rule book for your class and see what exactly they are looking for.
I was thinking about doing something for my 2011 WRX as well. Although I know it's an iPad, here is something I thought was badazz...
i also want to know about it,it looks so cool in some of the youtube videos
Ah, now this thread I like!
I've been thinking about a lot of things to implement my SGT into my car. The only first problem I ran into was.. do I want this thing forever in this car?
Back then I only had it for a wintersports vacation. To navigate and watch movies.
My most wanted version is/was to build it into a lexputer (I own a Lexus IS200).
imageshack.us/photo/my-images/228/lexputer1.jpg
BTW: I'm still looking for this!
But since I couldn't find it AND I didn't really know if I was gonna keep this tablet I decided to build a rack in my own simple way.
imageshack.us/photo/my-images/197/17516817242650946981310.jpg
(don't laugh) ;-)
I adjusted my amp and receiver of my car for now with a fm-modulator (not the best sound quality). Since I cannot find the right cables to connect it directly (i.e. a interface adapter).
I tried to build my own, but I'm still in search for the right connector.
So this is my result.
imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/17307717401206264459110.jpg
I attached a Brodit holder to my own construction. Et voila.
So my to list:
Get a Lexputer
Get the right interface adapter from SGT to Lexus IS200 stereo
Get a keyboard
Build it all nicely into my dashboard
to mod: soz to adjust my external links. Haven't made to eight replies yet. But I am legit
don't forget to add something like this to the setup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-h_J7RDXdw
Here is a great setup that takes advantage of the Tab's "double DIN" size, I'd like my tab to be removable tho( or just buy another....)
The biggest pain it that there is (currently) no connector for the tab that does audio and power(is there?) Maybe hack together a charge cable and component-out cable?
My setup: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akJAqJL2aPg
If you mount it in the dash where the double din is located, you won't be able to use the camera to record your runs. With the car app I'm using, via the GPS it displays speed, elevation, etc during playback, so it'll help you fine tune your sessions.
Use dailyroads, it's a free app. This is what the screen looks like while filming and playing back:
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You'll need one or two of these, as well.
That way you can adjust the volume without having to do it on the Tab, and with a lot more precision. It gets to be a pain in the a$$, believe me, having to reach for the volume control buttons on the Tab. I have 2, one for the sub amp and 1 for the 4 channel, mounted right under my arm rest and they are easily accessible.
The rearview mirror isn't really functional in my vehicle, so I pulled down. That's the add'l piece stuck to the windshield. I'm going to integrate the Tab mount's base to utilize the rearview mirror mount, so that I can pull it if I decide to sell the truck and want to return it to stock.
A keyboard really isn't necessary, IMHO. But I guess it depends on where you mount it. Swype works fine for what you need, and voice command does, as well.
You might also want to pick up one of these:
I hate having cords and crap all over the place, so I have this installed instead so I can power the Tab, my cell, and 1 add'l 12v device w/out having something coming out of the cigarette lighter.
grt work
lictor4 said:
The biggest pain it that there is (currently) no connector for the tab that does audio and power(is there?) Maybe hack together a charge cable and component-out cable?
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Forgot that the hdmi dock has headphone jack and power port
Here is a post I made awhile ago...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049496
Still works perfectly well today.
lictor4 said:
Forgot that the hdmi dock has headphone jack and power port
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I got my hands on one of those last week, and after looking at it, you'd be hard-pressed to try and keep that SGT docked in that thing in a vehicle. I think you could make a car mount out of it, though, and it would be successful.
Another thing I can relate using the OEM car dock....the mount has a spring in it that bounces a bit too much. As I revert to making a more permanent mount, the spring will be eliminated from the equation.
One of my main concerns in figuring how to mount it was to make sure that I could successfully utilize the camera. I want to be able to capture video of all the nimrods in traffic with me that don't know how to drive, so the mount location works perfectly. At some point, I'd like to get around to fabbing up an enclosure that will allow me to slide the tab in and out of like this setup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHVm6WptQvg
but I want it to be a reversible setup so that I by simply replacing the OEM center console/bezel with another, I can revert back to stock w/minimal work.
I see a lot of people mounting iPads in their vehicles, but IMHO, it's a bit LARGE for the front of the car. I think the SGT is the perfect size for what we're trying to accomplish.
nice work!!!!
lictor4 said:
The biggest pain it that there is (currently) no connector for the tab that does audio and power(is there?) Maybe hack together a charge cable and component-out cable?
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Here's the solution, finally a video/audio cable that also charges!
is it possible to connect a reversing camera to the tab?
Ya, mount the back-up cam screen under the dash in front of the Tab's camera ;-)
With the dock is it possible to seperate the hdmi out to rca to split the sound to an amp and the yellow to headrest monitors?
NEVERMIND IT DOESN'T WORK!
I found the hdmi to rca with hdmi cable at amazon.com. I figure with this the tab gets charged and you get the opportunity to run a screen. Here's the link:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002ZUI68G/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/184-0850434-9022311
Oh by the way I found an mini amp with a remote that controls everything fade, bass, fm, treble, and volume. They are super cheap like 40 bucks.
Here's the link where you can see the setup:
http://www.mp3car.com/worklogs/147525-2009-altima-dash-mount-android-tablet-pc.html
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As posted above, this is the cable you need
Lictor4 did you buy this cable? Some people say it has problems like the video not working, that will be a problem if one wanted to connect another screen.
Edit: Ok just read your first here.. So it does works with Gingerbread. Hmm just need to wait for verizon to give us Gingerbread.
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jraygoza said:
Lictor4 did you buy this cable? Some people say it has problems like the video not working, that will be a problem if one wanted to connect another screen.
Edit: Ok just read your first here.. So it does works with Gingerbread. Hmm just need to wait for verizon to give us Gingerbread.
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I'm still waiting for mine to arrive, I'm running the latest overcome ROM (at&t tab on Rogers network Canada) so we'll see how it goes. So far I think it's just one guy who's had trouble with this cable.
Let us know if it works.
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UPDATE DECEMBER 16th 2012
We did it!!! Made 1.4Miles (2.25Kilometers) this morning on an unboosted Nexus 7 tablet antenna mod!!! SWEET!!!
UPDATE DECEMBER 8th 2012
We've now taken the Nexus 7 WiFi range out to 4550ft (1372meters) closing in on one mile... Should be soon
Here's the vid of the world record flight with AR.Drone/Nexus 7 and itElite PRA24014 on December 8th
December 4th 2012 update
we've taken a giant leap in range and set an all out world record for the Parrot AR.Drone 2.0... We even beat the record set by the manufacturer...
Parrot teamed up with Alcatel-Lucent Technologies to create a drone controlled by 4G instead of WiFi and they set a mark of 1000meters...
So I took a long hard look at those numbers and contacted some WiFi experts discussing range and connectivity... Did some new modifications to my drone and tablet and came out on top, beating the Parrot/Alcatel record by roughly 82meters and beating the previous WiFi-only record by over 600meters (set by a consumer flyer in Hong Kong at 470meters)
My reason for posting here is to show the awesome Nexus 7 at it's best... None of this could have been done without the Nexus 7's unique features
Easy to crack open and shut without damage
Easy to tap into Nexus internal WiFi components
Easy to flash new ROM's and kernels to achieve smooth running control software
Perfect size and ample screen quality to fly outdoors and be able to see on screen controls
Here's the video of the world record flight on December 4th 2012
As of December 1st ... The Nexus 7 antenna mod holds the AR Drone 2.0 world distance record for WiFi controlled flight at 2,400ft (732 meters)
Just thought I'd leave this here and maybe get some Nexii love
I use my Nexus 7 to fly my WiFi Drone with onscreen HD video live feed...
The drawback has been the range... with the drones weak signal and the Nexus 7 tiny antenna I was limited to 100/150ft at best
So I came up with this... Ladies and gentlemen... the Nexus 7 FlightPad
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PremierTek 16dBi flat patch high gain directional WiFi antenna
This antenna setup increases my range by ten fold... now getting a thousand feet and more..
OK... I know... that antenna is huge... how bout a little smaller
Hawking 13dBi QuadPatch directional
How bout antenna and PS3 controller for flight control
Or just a simple multi polarized deal that will get full bars of WiFi internet anywhere in my house or yard from a cheap AT&T router
I know there will be haters for this setup because it ruins the flat back of the tablet making it less compact... but all this stuff just pops right off leaving the back "almost" flat... except for the PS3 controller slot mount at 1/8" thick... plus... I can jack open WiFi signals from over a mile away!!
Couple video examples of flight with the NexiiFlightPad
So anyways... go easy on me XDA... I'm 45yrs old but my mom didn't buy me the cool toys when I was a kid... so I'm overcompensating :-/
The external antenna is soldered to the motherboard antenna spring pins and the OEM WiFi antenna has been removed to eliminate interference... yes, I drilled holes in the back cover and even used epoxy and screws to attach the PS3 controller mount... but I have a spare back cover in case I want to return it to stock condition
Antenna solder points:
One word. Awesome!
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Thanks tkolev... I'm hoping I don't get stomped in here for the sacrilege of desecrating the OEM goodness of the stock Nexus 7... truly a wonderful device
b00mb00mchuck said:
Thanks tkolev... I'm hoping I don't get stomped in here for the sacrilege of desecrating the OEM goodness of the stock Nexus 7... truly a wonderful device
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I really doubt that anyone here will do that. You found a way to make your device fit your needs and this deserves nothing else but admiration. Our devices are tools, not some fashion toys.
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Very nice!
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I'm curious why you're using narrow-beam ant for your drone. Those panel types usually have a 30-deg beamwidth, and are for point-to-point uses. Actually, a hi-gain omni probably wouldn't work either, since it has a "flat" beamwidth. Maybe something like the below, a 9dBi panel ant w/ 60-deg beamwidth for easy aiming. The compact 5"x5" can be mounted on the tablet with a clip mount.
http://www.wpsantennas.com/id2450-r...zwhisperdirectionalindoorantennacaf94601.aspx
That's pretty sweet. I would love to add an external antenna to my (planned) car install. Having zero soldering skills, I don't know if I'm brave enough.
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I'm curious why you're using narrow-beam ant for your drone. Those panel types usually have a 30-deg beamwidth, and are for point-to-point uses. Actually, a hi-gain omni probably wouldn't work either, since it has a "flat" beamwidth. Maybe something like the below, a 9dBi panel ant w/ 60-deg beamwidth for easy aiming. The compact 5"x5" can be mounted on the tablet with a clip mount.
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I guess the answer would have to be trial and error + results...
I've racked up quite a few different antenna styles while experimenting... these are just a few
Omni antennas came first because I had them lying around and they did wonderfully compared to the stock internal antenna... but then I ended up with one of those 5"x 5" patch antennas (center) and saw the advantage of directional (narrow beam , point to point... just point it at the drone) ... so I scrounged around and settled with the 7"x 7" because it gave the best range... to me, 30° beam width is big... by the time you get 100/150 yards away the error cone is huge... pointing my nexus in the general direction of the drone seems to come naturally so it's never an issue
Of course it's not the antenna I use when I'm browsing XDA on WiFi like the post I'm making right now from the little 5dBi omni (second from the right).... small and light and doesn't get in the way...
All comes down to single user preference... would be silly to market something this way because there's particular rules to follow to get the best results with that particular antenna... but it suits my style and requirements the best... I'm even thinking about going up a notch to an 18dBi patch that only has 20° beam width... just to see how far I can actually fly this thing
Oh my ****. Cool!
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lithium630 said:
That's pretty sweet. I would love to add an external antenna to my (planned) car install. Having zero soldering skills, I don't know if I'm brave enough.
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That was my fear... I went at this with sketchy soldering skills also... but I watched some YouTube videos... and practiced a little and boom... came out just fine
This is incredibly amazing. Now... where is the step by step mod guide with pics?
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Yes! Another hardware hacker who's not afraid to 'play' with his toys.
I watched the videos and kept an eye on the battery gauge of the AR Drone. When you crank up the speed, it really sucks down the battery quickly.
Where did you get the main bracket?
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Very cool hacking.
Funny how you can watch the battery dropping when you sped it up
bigbop said:
Yes! Another hardware hacker who's not afraid to 'play' with his toys.
I watched the videos and kept an eye on the battery gauge of the AR Drone. When you crank up the speed, it really sucks down the battery quickly.
Where did you get the main bracket?
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The main antenna bracket is a hacked up Motorola Droid Bionic windshield suction cup mount (car dock) with the suction cup removed, 4 holes drilled for the antenna connection, and some cutting and flattening for the tablet connection with epoxy and small screws...
The battery drain is partly from more aggressive flying and partly because I sped up certain parts of the video edit to keep it more interesting... that was actually a 17 minute flight compressed into 7 minutes of video without dropping any frames... just speeding up the slower moving, boring parts
That's some impressive customization there. Props
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This is incredibly amazing. Now... where is the step by step mod guide with pics?
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I could probly pull that off here pretty soon (this weekend?). I have a new SMA connector coming with thicker, low loss, RG174 cable... (the coax i got on there now sucks)... and I'm making a stronger SMA mount... I made the first one kind of like a kickstand to keep the tablet tilted when I set it down, but I keep feeling like I'm gonna break it off sooner or later
So yeah... I'll be sure to take pics... maybe video I guess? (Which would be better?)
I'm so jealous. I was just looking at the ardrone website a couple days ago and have been trying to think of how to tell my wife that I need it to function as a human being.
kieso said:
I'm so jealous. I was just looking at the ardrone website a couple days ago and have been trying to think of how to tell my wife that I need it to function as a human being.
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Google "ar drone flyaway" before you do that. The folks who make it still haven't figured out that "wifi connection loss" should mean "gentle descent" to the ground. Apparently it means "go off in some wild direction, sometimes gaining great altitudes".
khaytsus said:
Google "ar drone flyaway" before you do that. The folks who make it still haven't figured out that "wifi connection loss" should mean "gentle descent" to the ground. Apparently it means "go off in some wild direction, sometimes gaining great altitudes".
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Not a problem for 99.99% of users... when mine loses WiFi connection it stops and locks on a target on the ground and hovers... giving me time to walk closer or aim my antenna better and reconnect... you really don't want it to auto land on a disconnect... what if it's over water or power lines or trees etc... the hover and wait feature works very well... the flyways are usually freezups in the onboard software getting hung up on the last command received ... or navigation board faults
but look at the numbers... with over a million units sold... and doing a YouTube search shows less than 30 flyaway videos... searching the drone forums with thousands of members, shows less than 30 or 40 posts talking about flyaways... and they're all old posts
With my friends and myself as a group we have over a dozen of these things and had one flyaway... Parrot warrantied that and sent a new unit... but that WiFi thing doesn't happen... they always just stop and hover and wait for you
kieso said:
I'm so jealous. I was just looking at the ardrone website a couple days ago and have been trying to think of how to tell my wife that I need it to function as a human being.
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My wife was way harder to deal with when I told her I needed the Nexus 7 more than air
And then she woke up one morning and saw me drilling holes in the cover and just about stabbed me with a back scratcher
But then she saw all the results and comments I get on the drone forums ... and she started thinking it was pretty cool
Then, all excited, she sent me this pic at work and I realized she was totally down with the DroneLife
My drone made the Parrot AR Drone Facebook page
What i want is a keyboard dock like the transformers. The problem is our little tablet inst big enough for a comfortable keyboard. So one of you wonderful manufacturer's need to make this happen. Expand the keyboard size to a decent comfortable level and add external speakers to the sides of the slot that the nexus 7 slides into. That way the keyboard can be much bigger without looking silly.
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Edit: I do realize that my op seems to focus on the keyboard, i dont know why i wrote it the way i did. The reason i mentioned the transformers dock was the external battery and not having to connect a device via bluetooth every time i went to use it. And for some reason i made the speakers seem like they would just be there to take up space when in reality what i ment was i actually want them there.
This would be so cool! If someone could mod a laptop keyboard to fit a N7 I'd buy it.
Search eBay or Amazon man, they're full of keyboard cases from faux leather ones to full up metal ones.
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Those are nothing like what i described. Not even close.
It's a full keyboard via micro usb or bluetooh that you can slide/click it into (since you really can't truly 'dock' it into anything since the plug is on the bottom and would have to be in portrait orientation to be truly docked), so it's realistically the closest you can get for the time being. Just trying to help out and give alternatives man.
Pogo pins. Hence the title pogo keyboard dock and the op saying like the transformer dock. Extended battery/keyboard + speakers. I don't know why you think a tablet with pogo pins that already has a dock with external speaker Jack that uses the pogo pins can't actually be docked to something.
I think the best thing to do would be to wait for i/o in May and see what the new N7 will be like (Is it gonna have pogo pins too) and then from there someone can make a kickstarter for this. I for one would be interested in getting one if it was availible.
I'd be all over a kick starter for this.
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Pogo pins. Hence the title pogo keyboard dock and the op saying like the transformer dock. Extended battery/keyboard + speakers. I don't know why you think a tablet with pogo pins that already has a dock with external speaker Jack that uses the pogo pins can't actually be docked to something.
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His post is more useful than this worthless thread.... He was trying to help.
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I'd be all over a kick starter for this.
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Kickstarter is the biggest scam. No rules or regulations, no guarantee.
I hope this doesn't ever get built.... Want something like the transformer dock keyboard.... Go get a transformer.
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I don't see what the problem is with using a case/Bluetooth connection and some sort of NFC tag maybe.
The keyboard cases are actually pretty awesome. There is an awesome clamshell keyboard case that matches the N7's completely... so when closed it looks like to N7s screen to screen.
I don't think the pogo allows this kind of connection to use with a keyboard. It provides power and the other is just to tell the N7 it is docked. Most pogo docks basically just enable Bluetooth when docked and stream music/connect that way.
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I dont have a problem with the bluetooth keyboard cases. I even ordered one before i posted this.
The reason i want something more like what i posted above is for the external speakers (i know that can be done because the actual nexus 7 dock has audio out) and for the external battery power. The keyboard is actually the part that i want the least.
In all actuality the keyboard could be gone completely and just a case with external battery and speakers would be perfectly fine for me, though the keyboard would be a plus.
Edit: I do realize that my op seems to focus on the keyboard, i dont know why i wrote it the way i did. The reason i mentioned the transformers dock was the external battery and not having to connect a device via bluetooth every time i went to use it. And for some reason i made the speakers seem like they would just be there to take up space when in reality what i ment was i actually want them there.
Edit: Edit: @krash183 lets try to keep our panties un-whirled.
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I dont have a problem with the bluetooth keyboard cases. I even ordered one before i posted this.
The reason i want something more like what i posted above is for the external speakers (i know that can be done because the actual nexus 7 dock has audio out) and for the external battery power. The keyboard is actually the part that i want the least.
In all actuality the keyboard could be gone completely and just a case with external battery and speakers would be perfectly fine for me, though the keyboard would be a plus.
Edit: I do realize that my op seems to focus on the keyboard, i dont know why i wrote it the way i did. The reason i mentioned the transformers dock was the external battery and not having to connect a device via bluetooth every time i went to use it. And for some reason i made the speakers seem like they would just be there to take up space when in reality what i ment was i actually want them there.
Edit: Edit: @krash183 lets try to keep our panties un-whirled.
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Edit: let's try to not sound like a prick when people are trying to be helpful
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Nothing I said was aggressive. What he talked about had nothing to do with what I was talking about. And I don't pick and choose how i word my replies based on whether or not a keyboard warrior will come and miss read it.
Might I suggest switching to Downey?
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Nothing I said was aggressive. What he talked about had nothing to do with what I was talking about. And I don't pick and choose how i word my replies based on whether or not a keyboard warrior will come and miss read it.
Might I suggest switching to Downey?
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And a keyboard thats not possible to be made has no business in being in this forum. Like it was stated before... Want a transformer dock... Go buy a transformer
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Again it can be made (we have the pogo pins) It just hasn't been yet. And I don't want a transformer dock a want a nexus 7 dock similar to the transformer dock minus the track pad plus external speakers.
If the Downy doesn't work for you try sun drying with light tumble and a snuggles sheet.
Keyboard dock like this would be pretty cool; it would finally allow me to only use my N7 for school instead of it and my iPad
On a side note, there's always some asshole(s) that come into every thread, best to just ignore them.
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Again it can be made (we have the pogo pins) It just hasn't been yet. And I don't want a transformer dock a want a nexus 7 dock similar to the transformer dock minus the track pad plus external speakers.
If the Downy doesn't work for you try sun drying with light tumble and a snuggles sheet.
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It's not possible... Find out what the pogo pins can do... Try again.
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Accept it is. And you don't know what your talking about.
I've heard that rubbing a dryer sheet over woollen fabric can help stem static cling.
While it can't be made the way the OP imagined, it would be possible to use pogo for power (and sound?) and have an app on the phone that tries to connect to a bluetooth keyboard whenever it is docked...
The existing fake-aluminum keyboard is quite nice, though. I know the OP was more interested in a speaker than a keyboard, but for me it is the opposite. I doubt this will be made, but it isn't impossible.
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While it can't be made the way the OP imagined, it would be possible to use pogo for power (and sound?) and have an app on the phone that tries to connect to a bluetooth keyboard whenever it is docked...
The existing fake-aluminum keyboard is quite nice, though. I know the OP was more interested in a speaker than a keyboard, but for me it is the opposite. I doubt this will be made, but it isn't impossible.
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Power and sound is exactly how I imagined it. I didn't know if the keyboard could be connected any way other than Bluetooth. But power and sound can for use the pogo pins.
The only features I really care about are AM/FM radio, Bluetooth phone, Bluetooth Audio streaming, and a working map system with reasonably good sound quality. I want it to be a system that looks like a factory install in my BMW e46 with working steering wheel controls. Really the rest of it is really just fluff to me.
Are either of the MTCB or MTCD units to the point that can be reliable?
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Mine is a Joying - MTCD - for a Jeep
AM/FM is normally something people have a problem with. I dont use that, so no biggie for me.
Bluetooth phone - fine for me, but it does route all the audio to one speaker, so it sounds a little weird, people say they hear me fine though. One annoying thing - the app takes over the screen while in use. So while you are on a call you cannot multi-task
Bluetooth Audio - works fine, steering wheel controls even work as intended. Interface is boring, but def works fine
Map system - I use Google Maps, so it works great, sometimes it lags, but that depends on what else I'm doing. I am going to try an actual navigation app with the GPS sd card adn see how that goes
Sound quality for me is vastly improved over stock. But stock was pretty much crap.
Mine is a Jeep specific unit, and it looks factory. Everyone who has seen it thought it was the factory until I started it up. One guy thought I just tweaked the factory radio, didn't realize it was an entirely different unit.
Let me ask this, what do you listen to via Bluetooth Audio?
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Let me ask this, what do you listen to via Bluetooth Audio?
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I have all my music on the phone, mostly ripped from my old CDs. I rarely stream, and when I do, its a local radio station when I am traveling (using TuneIn).
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I have all my music on the phone, mostly ripped from my old CDs. I rarely stream, and when I do, its a local radio station when I am traveling (using TuneIn).
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Well you could just use the A2DP app to stream Bluetooth audio and should have full use of your Steering wheel controls.
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Well you could just use the A2DP app to stream Bluetooth audio and should have full use of your Steering wheel controls.
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That's the plan, I just ordered a MTCD unit, so we will we how it goes.
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The only features I really care about are AM/FM radio, Bluetooth phone, Bluetooth Audio streaming, and a working map system with reasonably good sound quality. I want it to be a system that looks like a factory install in my BMW e46 with working steering wheel controls. Really the rest of it is really just fluff to me.
Are either of the MTCB or MTCD units to the point that can be reliable?
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You made the right choice. I also have an E46 and installed a MTCB unit approx a year ago and it works well. I have issue with FM but that was a problem with the original BMW Headunit too so suspect my issue is with the antenna or antenna amp. Bluetooth music streaming works well and phone hands free works fine if you install an external mic. The only downside with these units is the memory size. It's partitioned and on the MTCB units, there is only 1GB reserved for apps and 12GB wasted as storage (which hardly any apps can use). I think this has improved on MTCB (2GB instead of 1GB) but you may need to be selective on what apps you install. Let me know if you have any issues and I'll share my experience with you... welcome to the club!!!
So, unlike the Gen1 Kindle Fire, I'm guessing one can't get into the guts and repartition for more app space?
I'm still trying to figure out what 2Din HU to put in my '04 Ram. This side of the fence is more confusing that the phone sections and it's frustrating that a 2Din box has fewer features and less power than a phablet.
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So, unlike the Gen1 Kindle Fire, I'm guessing one can't get into the guts and repartition for more app space?
I'm still trying to figure out what 2Din HU to put in my '04 Ram. This side of the fence is more confusing that the phone sections and it's frustrating that a 2Din box has fewer features and less power than a phablet.
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if you use the Malaysk ROM it gives you more room for apps
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if you use the Malaysk ROM it gives you more room for apps
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So then it becomes the job of finding an HU with quirks that I can live with? Any recommendations?
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So then it becomes the job of finding an HU with quirks that I can live with? Any recommendations?
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it really takes a lot of searching. Read all you can about what you are looking for here on XDA, try to search for it on Reddit, and even look at the resellers forum like Joying or AutoPumpkin or RoadNavi.com
First decide if you want a Universal unit or a unit specific for your car.
I drive a Jeep Wrangler, and it is not a true Double Din, so I wanted the easiest install as possible. So I chose a Jeep specific unit. That lowers the number of options. Then for my year and model, that limited it down to about RoadNavi.com, Joying, Owince, or AutoPumpkin.
I liked Eonon, but they said they couldn't verify if it would work for my model year, 2016.
So I read a ton on here and their forums, and it seemed like people had more problems with Auto Pumpkin and Owince than they did with RoadNavi or Joying.
Seems like Joying has the most users on here and various forums. So I looked into them heavily. And they were on Amazon, and it was Prime, so I figured if something went wrong, Amazon would help me out.
And even then, it is kind of a crap shoot. I have a 2016 Jeep Wrangler, I got a MTCD Android 5.1 Joying for Jeep, works perfect, couldn't be happier.
my brother in law got the exact same unit, for his 2016 Jeep Wrangler. Except he has the Premium audio package. His we can't get to work right yet.
And know what you want out of it. About 90% of the time, all I use is Spotify and some type of GPS. I switch between Google Maps, Waze, Here WeGo, and iGo. so for me, it is perfect. If you want to use 20 different apps and add ons, things might not go so smoothly.
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it really takes a lot of searching. Read all you can about what you are looking for here on XDA, try to search for it on Reddit, and even look at the resellers forum like Joying or AutoPumpkin or RoadNavi.com
First decide if you want a Universal unit or a unit specific for your car.
I drive a Jeep Wrangler, and it is not a true Double Din, so I wanted the easiest install as possible. So I chose a Jeep specific unit. That lowers the number of options. Then for my year and model, that limited it down to about RoadNavi.com, Joying, Owince, or AutoPumpkin.
I liked Eonon, but they said they couldn't verify if it would work for my model year, 2016.
So I read a ton on here and their forums, and it seemed like people had more problems with Auto Pumpkin and Owince than they did with RoadNavi or Joying.
Seems like Joying has the most users on here and various forums. So I looked into them heavily. And they were on Amazon, and it was Prime, so I figured if something went wrong, Amazon would help me out.
And even then, it is kind of a crap shoot. I have a 2016 Jeep Wrangler, I got a MTCD Android 5.1 Joying for Jeep, works perfect, couldn't be happier.
my brother in law got the exact same unit, for his 2016 Jeep Wrangler. Except he has the Premium audio package. His we can't get to work right yet.
And know what you want out of it. About 90% of the time, all I use is Spotify and some type of GPS. I switch between Google Maps, Waze, Here WeGo, and iGo. so for me, it is perfect. If you want to use 20 different apps and add ons, things might not go so smoothly.
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I tend to try to run things past their mfgr's intended limits; modify them if I can or need to. Right now I'm sick of the not-quite-2DIN stock unit. Yes, I have the "premium" infinity audio. Been reading on that and don't want to rip it all out in favor of amps and such that I don't have room for, but in the same sentence will I be able to hook up the droid to the existing hardware. My P.E. skills may not be up to the task as what I think should work is not always the way things go. It seems easy looking at the wiring charts in the truck manual. Getting the output levels of the HU to match what the factory amp expects could be a challenge.
I guess what I really want from it is: Navigation (Waze), Pandora, AM/FM (AM not critical but would like it), VLC/MX Player, external USB storage, custom ROM, tether to hotspot or phone is a must. It's unlikely I'll try to do email or social media on it. Would love to have a 10" model, but my dash has a 'visor' above half the radio cutout that would probably interfere so I'm looking into 7" universal double DIN units.
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Yes, I have the "premium" infinity audio. .
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Sorry, but you mean on a Jeep Wrangler?
Well good news is, based on my multiple posts on Jeep Forum, it looks like if you get the Joying Jeep unit and use the side marked "AMP"
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That "AMP" side did not work with the premium Alpine system, but multiple people onJeepForum.com said it works perfectly with the Infiniti system.
I did eventually get it to work with the Alpine system, but I had to use a Joying universal harness and a PAC module and splice them together
Now if you wanted a 7 inch or 10 inch system they would probably work the same way. Just get the universal Joying harness that should come with the 7 inch or 10.1 inch. Then get a PAC or iDataLink or whatever and splice as needed
That is more labor intensive of course. If you can live with the smaller screen of the Jeep specific unit, it should be just plug and play.
And I use Waze and my phones Hotspot all the time
Also Pandora
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Nice pics. Mine's a Ram quadcab though. Good info if the jeeps use the same data bus. Would be nice to keep the steering wheel buttons functional.
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Can someone recommend a good device for a vehicle with 1 DIN?
Preferably the display that comes out should remain vertical and should not tilt back because the car's plastics overhang the 1 DIN frame/area
Thank you in advance for your time/expertise.
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I recently got the pioneer AVH-Z7100DAB as i wanted one from pioneer for the nice sound they give and it was the only one i could find from pioneer with big screen & android auto that is 1din. My previous was the older pioneer AVH-5200BT which had no android auto has the same 1din big screen that comes out of the radio and i was very satisfied with the quality so i am pretty confident this upgrade with android (and mirrorlink, carstream,..) will do the same good job
(edit : yes, you can select for it to stay vertical or tilt it or also move a little further from the backside)
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I recently got the pioneer AVH-Z7100DAB as i wanted one from pioneer for the nice sound they give and it was the only one i could find from pioneer with big screen & android auto that is 1din. My previous was the older pioneer AVH-5200BT which had no android auto has the same 1din big screen that comes out of the radio and i was very satisfied with the quality so i am pretty confident this upgrade with android (and mirrorlink, carstream,..) will do the same good job
(edit : yes, you can select for it to stay vertical or tilt it or also move a little further from the backside)
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Sounds perfect! Unfortunately it's very pricey. I really appreciate the advice but I should have added "at reasonable price"!
Can you recommend anything under 200€?
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I only need maze or google navigation (GPS), DAB radio, Bluetooth to stream music from my phone, phone support (make/receive calls + phone contracts display), android apps compatible.
The sound quality and sound power are not priority as I almost never listen to music.
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Send perfect! Unfortunately it's very pricey. I really appreciate the advice but I should have added "at reasonable price"!
Can you recommend anything under 200€?View attachment 4700631
I only need maze or google navigation (GPS), DAB radio, Bluetooth to stream music from my phone, phone support (make/receive calls + phone contracts display), android apps compatible.
The sound quality and sound power are not priority as I almost never listen to music.
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Sounds like you're in the wrong forum. This one is for Android Auto headunits. You might want to check other forums for info on the cheap Chinese units which run the Android OS.
No, I think that I'm in the correct forum, unless there is a price discrimination of which I'm not aware.
I need something exacting like the Pioneer device, just cheaper. It's not about functions, as much as about price.
Can you recommend anything under 200€?
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Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced 1 DIN Android device?
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Have you tried looking through those on Aliexpress? Just try search for 1 DIN Android and see if you can find one that as a minimum of 2GB RAM (NOT ROM, Memory or whatever they call it sometimes)
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Have you tried looking through those on Aliexpress? Just try search for 1 DIN Android and see if you can find one that as a minimum of 2GB RAM (NOT ROM, Memory or whatever they call it sometimes)
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Thank you for the advice that I appreciate. I will research for 2GB RAM or more. That's a good tip.
Are there other characteristics that I should look for?
Anyway, I searched and found some older, used, Pioneer units on eBay but I'm a bit hesitant regarding second hand electronics. If I buy new items on Amazon, then I'm protected against junk or non working units. I sent back a dashcam after 7 months and got a full refund as, apparently, others were experiencing troubles.
... I cannot believe that anything less than that Pioneer is simply junk.
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I personally would only look for at least 2GB RAM, nothing else. Oh and capacitive screen, not resistive like that Pioneer mentioned earlier.
You are protected on eBay as a buyer, but if the item matches description, there will not be much you can do.
I would try buy new from Aliexpress rather than used from somewhere else, but it's just me. You have buyer proitection on Aliexpress and possible refunds (partial or total) if something is not right. Buyer is not paid until you click confirm after you received the item and it is working.
Thanks again for the additional advice. I did not know that Aliexpress offered protection and later I will look into Aliexpress too. For now I found these:
1. https://www.amazon.it/dp/B07HF7FHWC/?coliid=I3KUACOID1XBJ3&colid=3025DE5W07WS1&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
2. https://www.amazon.it/dp/B07C5P2GHP/?coliid=IUNUZJ39X6P8N&colid=3025DE5W07WS1&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
3. https://www.amazon.it/dp/B077YH2TTV/?coliid=I167QPSWOA29OM&colid=3025DE5W07WS1&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
4. https://www.amazon.it/dp/B0799KRW97/?coliid=I1IR3M8P28XSK7&colid=3025DE5W07WS1&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
5. https://www.amazon.it/dp/B07JNLFS19/?coliid=IZ5CFKNRH63N4&colid=3025DE5W07WS1&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
6. https://www.amazon.it/dp/B0774LW7Z6/?coliid=I233OGMY40HWIK&colid=3025DE5W07WS1&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
7. https://www.amazon.it/dp/B07GPL1D8R/?coliid=I1MKXV18CP9BLA&colid=3025DE5W07WS1&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
8. https://www.amazon.it/dp/B07GGXWN64/?coliid=I2CHUI03CCRQB6&colid=3025DE5W07WS1&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
I like number [1.] best for looks but I am not sure about technical details. It shows 4GB ... number [2.], [3.] and [4.] all seem pretty much the same with little differences. Any recommendations? Which one would you go for?
Later I hope to have some time to check Aliexpress too. Again, thank you for sharing both your time and expertise!
PS: my car's walnut cover of the 1 DIN slot tilts open and when it does, it protrudes for 1.2cm, on top of the slot itself. So the screen must not slant backwards or it will touch the walnut cover.
Non-english I can't help. But There are reviews there on Amazon, read them And many are 800 * 480 resolution, that is very low.
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Non-english I can't help. But There are reviews there on Amazon, read them And many are 800 * 480 resolution, that is very low.
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Thank you. I appreciate you looking at then anyway.
Is TFT the correct display tipe?
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They will all be TFT. Look for Capacitive, not Resistive.
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They will all be TFT. Look for Capacitive, not Resistive.
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From your post i desume that TFT does not describe capacitive or resistive (I thought TFT was capacitive).
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Yes. Do not assume, you can always enter "what is TFT screen" into Google
So, you are looking for a cheap Chinese unit which runs Android, and not an Android Auto unit like you said earlier. This is the wrong place, as I said.
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So, you are looking for a cheap Chinese unit which runs Android, and not an Android Auto unit like you said earlier. This is the wrong place, as I said.
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Apologies...
What is the difference?
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The common Chinese units run Android, you install apps on the head unit, and it needs to connect to a hotspot on the phone to get Internet access and be useful. Android Auto units basically provides a display and touchscreen for the phone to use, and gives you a simplified interface for apps installed on the phone which are written to use it. They're very different things.
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The common Chinese units run Android, you install apps on the head unit, and it needs to connect to a hotspot on the phone to get Internet access and be useful. Android Auto units basically provides a display and touchscreen for the phone to use, and gives you a simplified interface for apps installed on the phone which are written to use it. They're very different things.
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Hi Mike,
Apologies for contradicting you but I have a rear view mirror dashcam, of Chinese manufacture, that does not need a hot spot from my phone as it has a 4G SIM card slot and does all that you describe for the Android Auto units, word by word. Plus it has a reversing camera, google maps, make phone calls, accesses internet and lots more, independently of my phone.
It cost me only 135€.
So I ask once again, where is the difference?
I am looking for something like my rear view dashcam recorder but without the recorder that I don't need for my 1 DIN slot.
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Hi Mike,
I have a rest view mirror dashcam, of Chinese manufacture, that does exactly what you describe, word by word, plus reversing camera, plus google maps, plus it has a slot for a telephone SIM card to make calls and access internet independently of my phone.
It cost me only 135€.
So it looks like they are exactly the same...
So I ask once again, where is the difference?
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Exactly the same as what? What you describe is not an Android Auto unit, it's a unit running the Android OS.
Google "Android Auto."