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Nexus 7 in place of traditional GPS

As an owner of several android devices I've been thinking of getting a Nexus 7 tablet as a replacement for my Garmin GPS unit. The GPS unit I have today cost me $400 when I bought it and when I look at the platform it's a slow processor, 4gb of on-board storage, god awful voice control and 4 hours of use without the power. It led me to think about ditching it and using the Nexus 7 solely as my GPS but I think it would take some work to make it operate as a traditional GPS and it would need some thought around these areas;
Interface or Launcher - I'm thinking something similar to HTC Car or a full launcher replacement to lead right into a GPS app.
Mapping Program - There are several programs out there like NavFree and CoPilot but I still hope that Garmin Street-pilot comes to Android
Power Management - As your car starts the tablet to start and fire up the mapping app/Car Launcher without a ton of notifications and stuff (suppressed maybe?) and as your car powers off the tablet needs to shut itself down after let's say 5 minutes of no active power.
Traffic Updates - I'm not too sure how this can be done without a subscription in an app like CoPilot
Voice Command - I'm hoping Google Now! with a mapping app as the default it should be like 1000x more accurate at voice recognition. I think it needs a way to have a voice control daemon listening for a magic phrase to accept a command.
Enhanced POIs - it would be awesome if Poi could launch the native app associated with if need be.
these are just some of my random thoughts I was wondering what you guys thought? I think it could be done relatively simply and it'd be something i'd be willing to pay for to improve my GPS experience than the limited tech included in today's GPS navigation devices.

For the launcher idea, you could just spam a whole ton of maps icons all over the home screen. Then place some nfc stickers all over your car so you could activate wifi hotspot from your phone and activate wifi from your tablet to pair the 2 devices to use google maps.
I typed all that with google voice typing. Oh my goodness this is amazing.
Edit: By spam I mean placing a poopton of 2x2 squares of Maps, Navigation, Places, My Tracks, so that if you miss a tap with your finger, you won't dangerously scramble to resolve the issue and impair your driving.
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Be aware that a lot of what you are asking for relies on internet connectivity with an Android device. Might need to tether for best results!
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Garmin bought out Navigon which I hope means that application will improve. Currently it's a steaming pile of poo though and can't touch the ease of use of Google Maps. The shear act of trying to search for an address in these GPS applications (particularly Navigon) when one has been used to the simplicity of Google Maps is enough to make one want to throw the device against a wall. I say keep your Garmin and supplement it with Google Maps.
There's something to be said for the simplicity of having integrated google services, like planning a road trip on your desktop in Google Maps and having all of your favorites right there on your android device along with other useful information like websites and reviews. As others have stated though, you will need internet access.

Ive been testing it out a little bit. Obviously the stock google offerings are no good if you are trying to do this without a data connection.It looks like navFree is the best option i have used so far, nice interface and maps, accurate and good voice guidance. The only thing i dont like about this app is there is literally no way to cancel guidance mid trip, unless you just add a new destination. I like the co-pilot app too but once i used it in the car it become apparent there is no voice guidance, at least for the free version.

Won't work with polarized sunglasses in landscape, though.
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cmunic8r99 said:
Won't work with polarized sunglasses in landscape, though.
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That's how I have my Gnex mounted in my car and I can see it just fine with my polarized glasses.
Is the AMOLED different?

Andrew025 said:
That's how I have my Gnex mounted in my car and I can see it just fine with my polarized glasses.
Is the AMOLED different?
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There's a thread about it around here somewhere, something about the way the screen is made. If you search for polarized sunglasses I think you'll find it.

I pretty much bought it just for this. Although after using it for a little bit i am liking it more than my tf300.
I used it for a few trips with it tethered in car with google navigation and waze and it works well. The audio is piped through aux port and sounds good enough. However the mount i got from ebay is terrible... It shakes really bad, so hoping i can find a better mount.
And finally still looking for a car charger.
Also using go launcher so i can mount it landscape.
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Andrew025 said:
That's how I have my Gnex mounted in my car and I can see it just fine with my polarized glasses.
Is the AMOLED different?
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My SGS2 works in both, but it blacks out if you turn it 45 degrees clockwise (or 270 CCW) . iPad has the same problem, but in portrait mode.
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Check this out - http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/upvy9/android_car_project/

Actually, I had the same thought. Forgive the possibly stupid questions but.
1. First of all does the Nex7 even have a GPS chip? If so has anyone tested it for navigation to see how reliable it is?
2. Has anyone seen a car dock that will fit a 7" monster like this?
3. How reliable is GMaps offline? I have an EVO LTE but have not saved any map data offline - I wonder if I were to save my whole metropolitan area on an N7 if GMaps would be feasible.

sparky222b said:
Actually, I had the same thought. Forgive the possibly stupid questions but.
1. First of all does the Nex7 even have a GPS chip? If so has anyone tested it for navigation to see how reliable it is?
2. Has anyone seen a car dock that will fit a 7" monster like this?
3. How reliable is GMaps offline? I have an EVO LTE but have not saved any map data offline - I wonder if I were to save my whole metropolitan area on an N7 if GMaps would be feasible.
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1 - Yes. It has a real GPS chip. User reports suggest it's very reliable, but I cannot comment as I don't own a N7 yet.
2 - I've seen some huge GPS units, but never a tablet mount. That said, check this link out.
3 - GMaps in offline mode can only cache select areas that you specify. When I go down south in a few weeks, I don't anticipate using Google Maps since their offline feature is (without being too mean) a joke. I'll probably be using NavFree or some other full featured offline GPS apps that I've read about on these forums. I love Google Navigation, but c'mon - how long have we been requesting offline maps? If other apps can take care of it, I'll easily switch to them to take care of the job.

Navfree, navigon and sygic work offline
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Eagle1337 said:
Navfree, navigon and sygic work offline
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Can you by chance comment a little further on these apps if you have experience with them? I'm curious how big they are when fully downloaded. Likewise I'm curious if I can download offline sections of the United States, but not the entire thing. For example, I don't want to have the entire globe downloaded if I'm only going to be traveling up and down the east coast, etc.

react9 said:
. . . And finally still looking for a car charger. . .
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http://store.griffintechnology.com/ipad/ipad-3/powerjolt-dual - dual outlets with full 10 watts of power for iPad or other tablets.

GPS seems pretty accurate. Took this sitting on my covered, south-facing front porch with WiFi turned off. This is after about fifteen seconds of measuring.
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Co-pilot fan
I have been using co-pilot for quite some time. It works flawless on my a500 tablet. And on my Huawei cell phone. It keeps maps up to date . There live traffic does cost a bit and you would need to tether to your phone to get the Right now accuracy. I do not think you need to reconfigure the tablet in any way. If you want CO - PILOT ONLY Edit the boot init script to boot co- pilot on start. FREEZE ALL OTHER APPS OR remove them (root needed for those two things ) .
I have tried many gps apps CO -PILOT IS by far the best and most accurate. GOOGLE MAPS will have you going wrong way on one way street . or showing you driving thru a field where there is now Roads. .
good luck

sparky222b said:
Actually, I had the same thought. Forgive the possibly stupid questions but.
1. First of all does the Nex7 even have a GPS chip? If so has anyone tested it for navigation to see how reliable it is?
2. Has anyone seen a car dock that will fit a 7" monster like this?
3. How reliable is GMaps offline? I have an EVO LTE but have not saved any map data offline - I wonder if I were to save my whole metropolitan area on an N7 if GMaps would be feasible.
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I have used a piece of Velcro to mount my Garmin, but don't know if Velcro will stick to the Nexus.

cmunic8r99 said:
GPS seems pretty accurate. Took this sitting on my covered, south-facing front porch with WiFi turned off. This is after about fifteen seconds of measuring.
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Was going to ask what app you were using to get this data but I found it myself, just wanted to post the link in case anyone else wanted to know:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chartcross.gpstest
Going to give this a go on my N7 right now!
EDIT: I gave it a go and I can say that the GPS on N7 picks up satellites a heck of a lot better than my cell phone (Optimus 2X) and my actual dedicated Garmin GPS. I'm getting a connection to 10 satellites while *indoors* (couple meters from a window, sitting at a desk). It's about 39 feet accuracy from this position. I'll test it standing outside my front door and see how the accuracy improved and update this post further.
EDIT2: Standing out on my driveway I get the same accuracy as above (20 feet) connected to 12 satellites - from Toronto, Ontario.

Why I want my Nexus money back!

Problems:
extruding screen with the odd noise when you touch it
flashing graphics and lines flicker across screen
sometimes unresponsive when clicking icons
can't detect ad hoc networks (meaning lack of connection to internet phones, esp. Nokia, Symbian)
this coupled with no 3G connection (i.e. sim), gives connection on the move an added complication
drops internet connections too often for comfort
white graphics on the screen, look yellow
some bad lighting around edges of screen
apps in app store might not be for this device (more of an issue for basic users, but still frustrating),
app store lacks a Nexus 7 only feature.
cant turn it on and get started, without internet connection (that was annoying)
a camera, but you cant take pictures with it, need to get an app first (not user friendly for non techi people)
no music store
8 gb space but really its 5.8gb (they should stop selling things like that. 8gb space should mean that you get what it says in 'space').
slight strange issue; purple metal edging (why purple tint?)
poor quality speaker
should have called it something other than Nexus, hard to search internet for things specific to this device.
things i now miss and should have realised I would have, before I bought it:
- no rear camera, makes photo taking stupidly difficult.
- no memory card slot
- things are geared toward the cloud, but with all the internet issues it often means you can't connect to files on the go.
Rival to iPad? No way, why I didn't dig deeper into my pocket, I don't know.
Rival to Kindle Fire? only in power but bad quality control by google has let it down, it's a no from me.
Will I be sending it back? Yes.
Do you also feel as let down as I do? Answers below:

mesmerize_21 said:
Problems:
[*]should have called it something other than Nexus, hard to search internet for things specific to this device.
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i lolz. sending it back because you can't google. priceless.
sorry about your troubles, i guess you got the antitheses of my N7, because it's mint.

mesmerize_21 said:
Problems:
extruding screen with the odd noise when you touch it
flashing graphics and lines flicker across screen
sometimes unresponsive when clicking icons
can't detect ad hoc networks (meaning lack of connection to internet phones, esp. Nokia, Symbian)
this coupled with no 3G connection (i.e. sim), gives connection on the move an added complication
drops internet connections too often for comfort
white graphics on the screen, look yellow
some bad lighting around edges of screen
apps in app store might not be for this device (more of an issue for basic users, but still frustrating),
app store lacks a Nexus 7 only feature.
cant turn it on and get started, without internet connection (that was annoying)
a camera, but you cant take pictures with it, need to get an app first (not user friendly for non techi people)
no music store
8 gb space but really its 5.8gb (they should stop selling things like that. 8gb space should mean that you get what it says in 'space').
slight strange issue; purple metal edging (why purple tint?)
poor quality speaker
should have called it something other than Nexus, hard to search internet for things specific to this device.
things i now miss and should have realised I would have, before I bought it:
- no rear camera, makes photo taking stupidly difficult.
- no memory card slot
- things are geared toward the cloud, but with all the internet issues it often means you can't connect to files on the go.
Rival to iPad? No way, why I didn't dig deeper into my pocket, I don't know.
Rival to Kindle Fire? only in power but bad quality control by google has let it down, it's a no from me.
Will I be sending it back? Yes.
Do you also feel as let down as I do? Answers below:
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Then contact Google for a refund. I don't have any problems with my Nexus.
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mesmerize_21 said:
Problems:
extruding screen with the odd noise when you touch it
flashing graphics and lines flicker across screen
sometimes unresponsive when clicking icons
can't detect ad hoc networks (meaning lack of connection to internet phones, esp. Nokia, Symbian)
this coupled with no 3G connection (i.e. sim), gives connection on the move an added complication
drops internet connections too often for comfort
white graphics on the screen, look yellow
some bad lighting around edges of screen
apps in app store might not be for this device (more of an issue for basic users, but still frustrating),
app store lacks a Nexus 7 only feature.
cant turn it on and get started, without internet connection (that was annoying)
a camera, but you cant take pictures with it, need to get an app first (not user friendly for non techi people)
no music store
8 gb space but really its 5.8gb (they should stop selling things like that. 8gb space should mean that you get what it says in 'space').
slight strange issue; purple metal edging (why purple tint?)
poor quality speaker
should have called it something other than Nexus, hard to search internet for things specific to this device.
things i now miss and should have realised I would have, before I bought it:
- no rear camera, makes photo taking stupidly difficult.
- no memory card slot
- things are geared toward the cloud, but with all the internet issues it often means you can't connect to files on the go.
Rival to iPad? No way, why I didn't dig deeper into my pocket, I don't know.
Rival to Kindle Fire? only in power but bad quality control by google has let it down, it's a no from me.
Will I be sending it back? Yes.
Do you also feel as let down as I do? Answers below:
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You got a bad unit. Happens to iPads too. For what it's worth a good unit works fantastic.
As for the bottom half of your list.... you are really complaining about no memory slot and rear camera? And that there isn't really 8GB of space? EVERY device does that. There is a music store, it's called Google Music, but feel free to use Amazon MP3 as well. You seem to have let yourself down.....

Mine is perfect and everything I thought it would be, sorry for your problems.

It sounds to me like you wanted an iPad and tried to buy the nexus to save some money.
Go ahead and get an iPad, Android is more for people who like to tinker and modify and have choices. Apple works out really well for people who want a system laid out for them that's real simple and dummy and non techie friendly. I buy them for my parents for that reason. I also have an iPad and an iPhone 4S so when I tell you that you and Android arent a match I'm not meaning any harm.
Make sure you get the 3G model iPad because they are much more picky about WiFi tether than Android.
However keep in mind that many of the negatives you don't like about Android are identical with the iPad.
And android has the play store which is a music store so I'm confused on that one and some of the other complaints, I think a lot of it was just not taking the time to learn your way around.
I'm very happy with my nexus its exceeded my expectations by far. Its in perfect condition physically and Im running an amazing custom ROM and kernel.
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Wow. Just wow. ...First post. No way this is real. :laugh:

Sounds like a troll to me, listing things it doesn't have that are clearly stated in all reviews and spec sheets - yet you label it all as negatives & utter surprise.
Also, where is the proof of your problems?
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U mad brah?
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U mad brah?
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That never gets old. :laugh:

I don't even own Nexus 7 yet, and I am still debating whether or not to get one, but this is obviously trolling. Same power as the Kindle Fire that doesn't even have Bluetooth? On what planet? Lol

Love those who join a forum just to post how they dislike something, and then never to be seen again.
Mine goes everywhere with me. I don't take pictures with a 1.2MP camera (what is this, 1998?)

Almost the entire list of "missing features" were never even speculated to be in this tablet. You fail at being a smart consumer. I chuckled. Was a joke, right?

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trolling...
please close thread

Trigger the trolls and go spend 500+ on a "new" iPad. My unit is a bad ass peace of tech, I'm not going to answer every problem you stated because you don't seek out solutions to these "problems".
Once I get my new phone (current one wont recognize USB connection) I'm tethering like a mofo.

Sounds like a one post iTroll.

Just buy an iPad and go away from this forum.
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I mean, you could always just google Nexus 7.

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Logitech Tablet Keyboard for Android Review

Hello everyone. This is a quick writeup/review on the LG Keyboard. I'm typing this up from the keyboard, in fact!
Pros:
1) First off, let me say that the build quality is excellent! The keyboard looks and feels like its made from some expensive and premium plastic. It has sort of a metallic look to it.
2) They keyboard is small however the keys are big and spacious enough.You can carry this easily in a bag, since it has a flat profile and a keyboard case to go with it. The keyboard case also doubles as a stand for your tablet fr those of you going commando and not wanting to put a case on it.
3) As for typing: The keys are chiclet raised style keys. They are spaced apart and big enough to type on comfortably.
4) There is absolutely no lag whatsoever between typing the character and it appearing on the screen. Sometimes, however, there are missed keys, as in you'll have to hit a letter twice before it appears. This occurs very rarely and also depends on how much of a "wirelessly" busy area you are in.
5) When using this keyboard, it behaves exactly like a desktop keyboard. As in, when you're type on a form with multiple fields, and you press tab or shift+tab, you move from one field to the next. Hitting spacebar on a radio button or a check mark box allows you to check that area off. Alt+Tabbing is also programmed in.You can hit Ctrl+T to open a new tab. There are plenty more, but these are the few that I've noticed that I thought I should mention.
I don't know if thats the result of programming on the keyboard or the OS that does this, but its still awesome either way.
6) Full volume control as well as the ability to pause, play, skip and go back on playlists.
Cons
1) The keyboard has a number of Fn function keys, each of which calls up a specific app. There is one for email, web browser, calendar, and music. As for email, I'm using the AOSP email app, and when pressing that button, nothing happens. This might be different with other people who are using other types of email apps.
2) The web browser isn't called either
Others: This might be good or bad depending on the person
1) As for calendar, only the stock calendar is launched
2) I've set my default music playing app to Player Pro, however when pressing this, it only brings up the music app installed from google. However, to be fair, I must say that after you have a playlist going, regardless of which music player your using, you can still control the playlist (pause, play, skip, go to previous song, etc)
3) I've been typing on this with wireless on and music playing. In the past 30 minutes, battery has gone down by about 7%.
Conclusion:
I should mention that this keyboard was sold for Android 3.0+, however it was intended for 3.0. As such, it isn't 100% compatible with 4.1.1 (I'd say its 95% ). Hopefully someone can figure out a way on mapping the some of the keys that weren't working. Regardless, the doesn't stop this from being a good keyboard and an excellent buy if you're someone who needs a physical keyboard and types a lot.
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WARNING: I was using a heavy DSLR camera one handed while recording this video...so as a result, there's more shaking and moving of the camera than I would have hoped so you may get a headache or some motion sickness .
Regardless, the video is still good enough to showcase the virtues of this keyboard!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-plXnQA-KlE&feature=youtu.be
Further comments:
Please let me know if you have any questions or anything specific. I did my best in making this review and presenting pictures, so if you think there's something still missing, just post here.

Nice writeup. Been lookin for a reason to get this. My HP touchpad Bluetooth keyboard just doesn't cut it working on android.
A little shocking about your battery drop like that in only 30 minutes.. any improvement or change with this, now that you are using it more?
Been eyeing up the refurbished ones on eBay for $33.00.
Can you post more pics with the cover on it? Next to the 7 ?
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Really interested in this keyboard, if only the price weren't so high. Does the stand work while you have your case on?
Sent from my paranoid Nexus 7.

theomni said:
I should mention that this keyboard was sold for Android 3.0+, however it was intended for 3.0. As such, it isn't 100% compatible with 4.1.1 (I'd say its 95% ). Hopefully someone can figure out a way on mapping the some of the keys that weren't working. Regardless, the doesn't stop this from being a good keyboard and an excellent buy if you're someone who needs a physical keyboard and types a lot.
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Perhaps you should take a look at this? http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159538

Ah, thank you!
But in order for that method to work, you need to be rooted and install a few APKs. I was hoping to do this without cluttering my apps drawer.
Edit: New pictures have been added to the original post. As of right now, I'm uploading a video onto youtube on the keyboard and typing. However, I MUST warn you all: I tried looking back at my camera work and I realized there's quite a bit of movement. I kinda got motion sick and have a headache (lol) so this is a fair warning to you. Just skip around throughout the video.

Video and more pictures added!

i have the chance to get the ipad variant of this quite cheaply (can't find the android version in the uk anyway)
does anyone know if the ipad version would work with android?

ajpettit said:
i have the chance to get the ipad variant of this quite cheaply (can't find the android version in the uk anyway)
does anyone know if the ipad version would work with android?
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It works, my wife has one. I had some weirdness the first time I connected it, the shift key kept "sticking" but after that it was okay. Control, Alt works.. Some of the media stuff works, including launching some stock apps.. Overall it was okay once it started working right, not sure if it'll happen randomly or just that "first time".
Android will have more Android-specific functions, like Home, Back, Recents, etc... but you can mostly get by on the keyboard, especially if you don't mind poking the screen now and then.

nickles96 said:
Nice writeup. Been lookin for a reason to get this. My HP touchpad Bluetooth keyboard just doesn't cut it working on android.
A little shocking about your battery drop like that in only 30 minutes.. any improvement or change with this, now that you are using it more?
Been eyeing up the refurbished ones on eBay for $33.00.
Can you post more pics with the cover on it? Next to the 7 ?
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I've been eyeing the same thing, except on amazon. lol
OP: Can you open a note taking app and take a picture of the setup from normal typing distance?
I want to get this keyboard so I can take some notes in class, but my main concern was that I wouldn't be able to see the text or I would have to magnify so much that barely any text fits on the screen at a time.
(Yea, Transformer is better for this, but this is only one of many things I want to do. And I feel the N7 is better for.. everything else. lol)

Nippero said:
I've been eyeing the same thing, except on amazon. lol
OP: Can you open a note taking app and take a picture of the setup from normal typing distance?
I want to get this keyboard so I can take some notes in class, but my main concern was that I wouldn't be able to see the text or I would have to magnify so much that barely any text fits on the screen at a time.
(Yea, Transformer is better for this, but this is only one of many things I want to do. And I feel the N7 is better for.. everything else. lol)
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Sure. I'll do it tomorrow night.
However, I can tell you that if you use this like a laptop, you can easily read and see the text.

Nippero said:
I've been eyeing the same thing, except on amazon. lol
OP: Can you open a note taking app and take a picture of the setup from normal typing distance?
I want to get this keyboard so I can take some notes in class, but my main concern was that I wouldn't be able to see the text or I would have to magnify so much that barely any text fits on the screen at a time.
(Yea, Transformer is better for this, but this is only one of many things I want to do. And I feel the N7 is better for.. everything else. lol)
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Sorry, I just realized what you were saying.
As far as normal typing distance is concerned, why don't you put your tablet at various distances and see if you can read it. I'd imagine this would be a personal thing that is different from person to person.

I just got mine in the mail. Perfect plug and play functionality! The browser shortcut button DOES work with the AOSP browser! For some reason the email shortcut isnt linking to either my gmail or to my email cliemt - may try to manually map this later. Otherwise the keyboard is perfectly responsive, portable size while maintaining the full sized keyboard feel. I love it Highly recomend it to anyone looking for a portable bluetooth keyboard for their N7!

Hi there. I'm new here and this is my first post.
This keyboard is surprisingly good. I originally wanted a keyboard folio but they are too small. I gave the Logitech one a chance and I'm very happy with the responsiveness and the overall feel. I touch type so I need the keys to feel a certain way to type properly and this keyboard works very well.
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Found it on Amazon for $40! Might take a chance at it as the cheapest I've seen it was $50.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=B0054L8N7M&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwgadgetgblo-20

Bump.
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I have the same keyboard I absolutely love it! Give it a 9/10 for pretty much the exact reasons in the OP. I got mine on ebay as a factory refurbished for $30 shipped and it works perfectly! Battery last a long time too on a few AAAs I would definitely recommend this to anyone who likes to have a physical keyboard!
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Found this on clearance at Target for 42$ Love it.
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Logitech Tablet Keyboards review for android and for Ipad tested with PC
Hi guys,
I bought both the ipad version and android version of the keyboard and did some comparison using IPAD3, NEXUS 7, and Windows 7 PC.
Please have a look at it and let me know if you have any questions
I cant seem to post video because I am new so please copy and paste
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search for "logitech tablet keyboard for android and ipad function" and look for TH0RFan
Its a bit long-winded but I did specify on comment which device is tested so you can fast foward to particular sections.
I wish I had better video capturing equipment but for the time being my SD1300 will have to do.
Cheers,

This keyboard gave me trouble to the point I gave up on it and sold it. It would timeout quickly, fail to pair about 30% of the time, and ddđooooooooooo tttttthhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiissss nnoooowww annnnnnnnddddd tthheennnnnnnnnnn.
Several calls to Logitech later and I decided to just get rid of it.

My brother got this for his Tab 10.1 and I tried it out on my Nexus. It works great. Perfect sized keys, feels good when typing. I even played GTA III with it. He told me battery life is awesome on it. He has to recharge once every 3 months.

Should I grab a Android radio now or just wait

I'm in the market for a Android/Smart radio for my car but it seems like the hardware may not be stable. I was going to grab this because it taps in my Spotify
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/DVD-Receivers/AVH-X7800BT

IMHO if you like Pioneer's buy an "Android Auto" & Car Play head unit, since now AA has become the standard for all future stock in-dash navigation car stereos.

Many auto manufacturer's are not getting on board with google
Saying it is becoming the standard is not true.
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lowridincrew said:
I'm in the market for a Android/Smart radio for my car but it seems like the hardware may not be stable. I was going to grab this because it taps in my Spotify
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/DVD-Receivers/AVH-X7800BT
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It depends on when you're planning to get a new car and what make/model you plan to get. If you don't plan to get a new car for 5 years, then I would consider it. If you plan to get a car next year, I would hold off and research models that come with Android Auto capability built in.
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DAvid_B said:
Many auto manufacturer's are not getting on board with google
Saying it is becoming the standard is not true.
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Maybe you're not completely up-to-date...
Even Mercedes-Benz has lately chosen the Android Auto/Car Play platform:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66438898&postcount=2
A lot of car makers, if not almost all the most important, have already joined the Open Alliance for Android Auto, the true standard for the future...
See:
http://www.openautoalliance.net/#members
Curiously, you're posting in the dedicated "Android Auto" forum section..

lowridincrew said:
I'm in the market for a Android/Smart radio for my car but it seems like the hardware may not be stable. I was going to grab this because it taps in my Spotify
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/DVD-Receivers/AVH-X7800BT
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If all you want is Spotify you will be far happier with this Pioneer unit than an android unit.

I want all the other features but Sound quality is also a main factor

lowridincrew said:
I want all the other features but Sound quality is also a main factor
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Decide on your wants and needs and where to compromise. Your sound quality just wont be as good with an android unit. Or decide the cost of an android unit is an experiment and you can accept the cost/loss if you want to switch to a better unit.

I have the Eanon GA2114 and the audio quality is decent. Better than my stock REC NAV. Has a lot of features and didn't break the bank. Quad core rk3188 1gb ram and 16gb storage. 3 USB ports and lots of customizations. EBay them and you might find a good deal on an auction. They sell at 250. Got mine for 150. The canbus adapter was almost another 100 but it kept my steering wheel controls.
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I have the Eanon GA2114 and the audio quality is decent. Better than my stock REC NAV. Has a lot of features and didn't break the bank. Quad core rk3188 1gb ram and 16gb storage. 3 USB ports and lots of customizations. EBay them and you might find a good deal on an auction. They sell at 250. Got mine for 150. The canbus adapter was almost another 100 but it kept my steering wheel controls.
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I had grabbed a Joying 5.1 Android Radio for $220. Someone had it Used Like new on eBay and it's in the US so I grabbed it up really quick. I'm going to experiment with it and I'm grabbing a American Bass Crossover or something else at some point to control my crossover and gain.

lowridincrew said:
I had grabbed a Joying 5.1 Android Radio for $220. Someone had it Used Like new on eBay and it's in the US so I grabbed it up really quick. I'm going to experiment with it and I'm grabbing a American Bass Crossover or something else at some point to control my crossover and gain.
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I got a gain knob and put it between my amp and radio. Works well enough but I feel there should be more power coming from the head unit. The sub hits hard at half volume and higher but is barely noticeable at lower volumes.
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I got a gain knob and put it between my amp and radio. Works well enough but I feel there should be more power coming from the head unit. The sub hits hard at half volume and higher but is barely noticeable at lower volumes.
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I'll probably do that too. Looks like I'll need a good inline driver. I'm guessing the Sub RCA preamp is probably like 1v.

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I'll probably do that too. Looks like I'll need a good inline driver. I'm guessing the Sub RCA preamp is probably like 1v.
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Any links for what I'd need to boost it?
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Nevermind. . Should be this:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=271810639893&alt=web
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Any links for what I'd need to boost it?
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Nevermind. . Should be this:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=271810639893&alt=web
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Did you put a splitter on the Sub output to make it stereo?

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Did you put a splitter on the Sub output to make it stereo?
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Yes... But it's a mono sub. Wonder if that's why it's not as loud. Can I just use 1 channel since it's bridged anyway? It goes from 1 sub output, split in to 2 , then into the bass knob as 2. Then 2 back to the sub.
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pyraxiate said:
Yes... But it's a mono sub. Wonder if that's why it's not as loud. Can I just use 1 channel since it's bridged anyway? It goes from 1 sub output, split in to 2 , then into the bass knob as 2. Then 2 back to the sub.
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That should be fine. But I have to wait until I get my Android radio to give my 100% guidance to it. I'm ordering a Crossover for $40. I'll test it before the crossover and then afterwards. I think we can turn up the gain with a config file within the system but I don't know Android Development that much to figure it out on my own

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That should be fine. But I have to wait until I get my Android radio to give my 100% guidance to it. I'm ordering a Crossover for $40. I'll test it before the crossover and then afterwards. I think we can turn up the gain with a config file within the system but I don't know Android Development that much to figure it out on my own
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Hopefully we can get a dev to help with that. I couldn't find any settings .... Kind of stupid If you ask me. Theres a way to boost everything else in the factory mode EXCEPT the sub out. Bluetooth, DVD, av, radio, system volume, etc.... You can raise their values...... Just not the damn sub lol
Like I said, the bass hits hard with the volume all the way up. I shouldn't have to push the other speakers so hard though. I'm going to tinker around with switching it all to mono wiring even though my amp doesn't have a " mono " input. From what I read, I'm splitting the volts coming out of the factory sub out driver...... That may be why it sounds so low.
If that doesn't fix it, I have 2 rca rear out connections which should have plenty of juice to give.
I only have 1 other issue with my head unit I'm working on figuring out. Bluetooth call audio isn't coming through. It's the canbus adapters fault though and not the radio. Android head units default call audio to the front channels. My canbus adapter is using the rear for all 4 instead. No fading ability but I'm not worried about that. This is supposedly because I have a factory installed premium audio system ( Boston Acoustic speakers and amp ).
I'm thinking I'll have to swap front and rear wiring at the harness where I spliced them all together. That should give me Bluetooth audio back. It's either that or find a way to make Bluetooth calls route to the rear / all 4 channels. Bluetooth music does work though with no issues.
Those 2 things aside , I love my GA2114. Both problems are easily fixed ( 15$ in line driver being the worst case scenario ) .... It's fast, and looks awesome.
I should note that I'm running a custom Rom on mine. Made a big difference in usability.. Especially the DPI. When you get yours, check out Boroondock's ROM. Its awesome.
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Can a Chinese Android MTCB or MTCD be reliable with core features

The only features I really care about are AM/FM radio, Bluetooth phone, Bluetooth Audio streaming, and a working map system with reasonably good sound quality. I want it to be a system that looks like a factory install in my BMW e46 with working steering wheel controls. Really the rest of it is really just fluff to me.
Are either of the MTCB or MTCD units to the point that can be reliable?
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Mine is a Joying - MTCD - for a Jeep
AM/FM is normally something people have a problem with. I dont use that, so no biggie for me.
Bluetooth phone - fine for me, but it does route all the audio to one speaker, so it sounds a little weird, people say they hear me fine though. One annoying thing - the app takes over the screen while in use. So while you are on a call you cannot multi-task
Bluetooth Audio - works fine, steering wheel controls even work as intended. Interface is boring, but def works fine
Map system - I use Google Maps, so it works great, sometimes it lags, but that depends on what else I'm doing. I am going to try an actual navigation app with the GPS sd card adn see how that goes
Sound quality for me is vastly improved over stock. But stock was pretty much crap.
Mine is a Jeep specific unit, and it looks factory. Everyone who has seen it thought it was the factory until I started it up. One guy thought I just tweaked the factory radio, didn't realize it was an entirely different unit.
Let me ask this, what do you listen to via Bluetooth Audio?

CadillacMike said:
Let me ask this, what do you listen to via Bluetooth Audio?
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I have all my music on the phone, mostly ripped from my old CDs. I rarely stream, and when I do, its a local radio station when I am traveling (using TuneIn).

Pattond said:
I have all my music on the phone, mostly ripped from my old CDs. I rarely stream, and when I do, its a local radio station when I am traveling (using TuneIn).
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Well you could just use the A2DP app to stream Bluetooth audio and should have full use of your Steering wheel controls.
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CadillacMike said:
Well you could just use the A2DP app to stream Bluetooth audio and should have full use of your Steering wheel controls.
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That's the plan, I just ordered a MTCD unit, so we will we how it goes.
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Pattond said:
The only features I really care about are AM/FM radio, Bluetooth phone, Bluetooth Audio streaming, and a working map system with reasonably good sound quality. I want it to be a system that looks like a factory install in my BMW e46 with working steering wheel controls. Really the rest of it is really just fluff to me.
Are either of the MTCB or MTCD units to the point that can be reliable?
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You made the right choice. I also have an E46 and installed a MTCB unit approx a year ago and it works well. I have issue with FM but that was a problem with the original BMW Headunit too so suspect my issue is with the antenna or antenna amp. Bluetooth music streaming works well and phone hands free works fine if you install an external mic. The only downside with these units is the memory size. It's partitioned and on the MTCB units, there is only 1GB reserved for apps and 12GB wasted as storage (which hardly any apps can use). I think this has improved on MTCB (2GB instead of 1GB) but you may need to be selective on what apps you install. Let me know if you have any issues and I'll share my experience with you... welcome to the club!!!

So, unlike the Gen1 Kindle Fire, I'm guessing one can't get into the guts and repartition for more app space?
I'm still trying to figure out what 2Din HU to put in my '04 Ram. This side of the fence is more confusing that the phone sections and it's frustrating that a 2Din box has fewer features and less power than a phablet.

ProfEngr said:
So, unlike the Gen1 Kindle Fire, I'm guessing one can't get into the guts and repartition for more app space?
I'm still trying to figure out what 2Din HU to put in my '04 Ram. This side of the fence is more confusing that the phone sections and it's frustrating that a 2Din box has fewer features and less power than a phablet.
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if you use the Malaysk ROM it gives you more room for apps

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if you use the Malaysk ROM it gives you more room for apps
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So then it becomes the job of finding an HU with quirks that I can live with? Any recommendations?

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So then it becomes the job of finding an HU with quirks that I can live with? Any recommendations?
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it really takes a lot of searching. Read all you can about what you are looking for here on XDA, try to search for it on Reddit, and even look at the resellers forum like Joying or AutoPumpkin or RoadNavi.com
First decide if you want a Universal unit or a unit specific for your car.
I drive a Jeep Wrangler, and it is not a true Double Din, so I wanted the easiest install as possible. So I chose a Jeep specific unit. That lowers the number of options. Then for my year and model, that limited it down to about RoadNavi.com, Joying, Owince, or AutoPumpkin.
I liked Eonon, but they said they couldn't verify if it would work for my model year, 2016.
So I read a ton on here and their forums, and it seemed like people had more problems with Auto Pumpkin and Owince than they did with RoadNavi or Joying.
Seems like Joying has the most users on here and various forums. So I looked into them heavily. And they were on Amazon, and it was Prime, so I figured if something went wrong, Amazon would help me out.
And even then, it is kind of a crap shoot. I have a 2016 Jeep Wrangler, I got a MTCD Android 5.1 Joying for Jeep, works perfect, couldn't be happier.
my brother in law got the exact same unit, for his 2016 Jeep Wrangler. Except he has the Premium audio package. His we can't get to work right yet.
And know what you want out of it. About 90% of the time, all I use is Spotify and some type of GPS. I switch between Google Maps, Waze, Here WeGo, and iGo. so for me, it is perfect. If you want to use 20 different apps and add ons, things might not go so smoothly.

CadillacMike said:
it really takes a lot of searching. Read all you can about what you are looking for here on XDA, try to search for it on Reddit, and even look at the resellers forum like Joying or AutoPumpkin or RoadNavi.com
First decide if you want a Universal unit or a unit specific for your car.
I drive a Jeep Wrangler, and it is not a true Double Din, so I wanted the easiest install as possible. So I chose a Jeep specific unit. That lowers the number of options. Then for my year and model, that limited it down to about RoadNavi.com, Joying, Owince, or AutoPumpkin.
I liked Eonon, but they said they couldn't verify if it would work for my model year, 2016.
So I read a ton on here and their forums, and it seemed like people had more problems with Auto Pumpkin and Owince than they did with RoadNavi or Joying.
Seems like Joying has the most users on here and various forums. So I looked into them heavily. And they were on Amazon, and it was Prime, so I figured if something went wrong, Amazon would help me out.
And even then, it is kind of a crap shoot. I have a 2016 Jeep Wrangler, I got a MTCD Android 5.1 Joying for Jeep, works perfect, couldn't be happier.
my brother in law got the exact same unit, for his 2016 Jeep Wrangler. Except he has the Premium audio package. His we can't get to work right yet.
And know what you want out of it. About 90% of the time, all I use is Spotify and some type of GPS. I switch between Google Maps, Waze, Here WeGo, and iGo. so for me, it is perfect. If you want to use 20 different apps and add ons, things might not go so smoothly.
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I tend to try to run things past their mfgr's intended limits; modify them if I can or need to. Right now I'm sick of the not-quite-2DIN stock unit. Yes, I have the "premium" infinity audio. Been reading on that and don't want to rip it all out in favor of amps and such that I don't have room for, but in the same sentence will I be able to hook up the droid to the existing hardware. My P.E. skills may not be up to the task as what I think should work is not always the way things go. It seems easy looking at the wiring charts in the truck manual. Getting the output levels of the HU to match what the factory amp expects could be a challenge.
I guess what I really want from it is: Navigation (Waze), Pandora, AM/FM (AM not critical but would like it), VLC/MX Player, external USB storage, custom ROM, tether to hotspot or phone is a must. It's unlikely I'll try to do email or social media on it. Would love to have a 10" model, but my dash has a 'visor' above half the radio cutout that would probably interfere so I'm looking into 7" universal double DIN units.

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Yes, I have the "premium" infinity audio. .
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Sorry, but you mean on a Jeep Wrangler?
Well good news is, based on my multiple posts on Jeep Forum, it looks like if you get the Joying Jeep unit and use the side marked "AMP"
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That "AMP" side did not work with the premium Alpine system, but multiple people onJeepForum.com said it works perfectly with the Infiniti system.
I did eventually get it to work with the Alpine system, but I had to use a Joying universal harness and a PAC module and splice them together
Now if you wanted a 7 inch or 10 inch system they would probably work the same way. Just get the universal Joying harness that should come with the 7 inch or 10.1 inch. Then get a PAC or iDataLink or whatever and splice as needed
That is more labor intensive of course. If you can live with the smaller screen of the Jeep specific unit, it should be just plug and play.
And I use Waze and my phones Hotspot all the time
Also Pandora
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Nice pics. Mine's a Ram quadcab though. Good info if the jeeps use the same data bus. Would be nice to keep the steering wheel buttons functional.
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