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Kaiser rocks!

I've been using the Kaiser for a couple of weeks now (a test model) and it rocks!
Previously I had the Hermes, and this one is so much sleeker. Design is better. It is visibly thinner.
The only problem I have is probably with the radio. It doesnt seem to have the same signal I got with the Hermes. (In my office, I used to have 2-3 bars with Hermes. This one gives me 1-2 bars)
Other than that it's awesome!

Could you please confirm if it has 128 mb of RAM, because mostly I can read about 64MB

ausbj said:
I've been using the Kaiser for a couple of weeks now (a test model) and it rocks!
Previously I had the Hermes, and this one is so much sleeker. Design is better. It is visibly thinner.
The only problem I have is probably with the radio. It doesnt seem to have the same signal I got with the Hermes. (In my office, I used to have 2-3 bars with Hermes. This one gives me 1-2 bars)
Other than that it's awesome!
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what a lucky boy you are ;-)
Can I ask you for a favour, can you test call of duty 2 and tell us about the 3D acceleration please :
http://handhelds.aspyr.com/webdav/COD2_Demo_Setup.exe

I keep on postponing to prolong my subscription till this baby is coming. Currently MDA Vario II User... Anyone knows more about a release date ??

bouaroudj said:
what a lucky boy you are ;-)
Can I ask you for a favour, can you test call of duty 2 and tell us about the 3D acceleration please :
http://handhelds.aspyr.com/webdav/COD2_Demo_Setup.exe
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hey bouaroudj. ive been really excited about the kaiser's qualcomm 7200 graphics chip. ive done comparisons to it and the dell axim's intel 2700 graphics accelerator and the kaiser's is much better. anyway, on a normal 400mhz device COD2 will run just fine. so im sure it will be the same. now what we really need testing is a PS1 emulator, and Quake 3. Those things will really tell us how good the kaiser is. =)

Video on the new Kaiser
The new Kaiser is really a great deal and it's a most solid PDA I have never seen. I had seen a detail hand on video on this new kaiser at http://mymobile911.com

can you post the rom version you are using?

I tried running cod setup and on both computers it tells me try freeing up harddrive space and trying again.. anyone know whats up with that? I have mucho gig's left on both.

RAM
Ram is definitely 128MB
esselite said:
Could you please confirm if it has 128 mb of RAM, because mostly I can read about 64MB
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Madcap180 said:
I tried running cod setup and on both computers it tells me try freeing up harddrive space and trying again.. anyone know whats up with that? I have mucho gig's left on both.
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thats sorta weird... dont know what to tell u there. have u restarted your computer at all?

confirm...
kaiser is really fantastic and camera is awesome!

crino said:
kaiser is really fantastic and camera is awesome!
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Take a look at these figures :
http://www.mymobile911.com/dnn/Home/tabid/36/EntryID/58/Default.aspx

bouaroudj said:
Take a look at these figures :
http://www.mymobile911.com/dnn/Home/tabid/36/EntryID/58/Default.aspx
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Those are some darn impressive benchmarks dude !
Three words: I - WANT - IT !!!

If you've got money to burn....
These guys claim to have several in stock
http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?products_id=437
I paid almost $4k US to get 2 of these phones so far. crazy huh

Uh, why?
V

Why>?
One for me and one for Mrs.Ausbj
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Uh, why?
V
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Jeebus. I wish I had that kinda cash to splash on phones
I'm having to sell my body for Nokia 1100s, and barely breaking even.
Mrs V wants an iphone of course....
V

Vijay, how much for a HJ? lol.

bouaroudj said:
Take a look at these figures :
http://www.mymobile911.com/dnn/Home/tabid/36/EntryID/58/Default.aspx
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no need to check websites....i got one )

@Madcap:
Freebie for you of course, but wouldn't she have something to say about that?
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Google G1

Looks pretty amazing, and only $179?!?!?!
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http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/patterson/27298;_ylt=Am1m4pHiBkXUdzYAf.KCrXoazJV4
I plan on getting one..anyone else??

i was excited originally but i don't think so now that i've done a little bit of research..... its turning into an iphone and google is taking complete control of it

Not Interested, don't need keyboard among other things. Ordering the Touch HD...

have mine on order can't wait oct,22 I would like the hd to but for the money you can't bet the g1 with the new os

will there be a thread for it

swaney said:
will there be a thread for it
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I guess this is the thread lol
My Girls contract is up Oct. 1st and she has T-Mobile so I'm going to make her get the G1 for me...hopefully someone will be able to unlock it so I can use my AT&T account on it

from the pictures, it looks like the couldnt have made a cheaper quality phone if they tried

hockeyizlife94 said:
from the pictures, it looks like the couldnt have made a cheaper quality phone if they tried
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lets just wait for the next version, its always better

joel2009 said:
i was excited originally but i don't think so now that i've done a little bit of research..... its turning into an iphone and google is taking complete control of it
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Yes, taking complete control of an open source operating system with a free software development kit. JUST like Apple, in fact, it's practically the same.

shanetheclassic said:
I plan on getting one..anyone else??
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If my AT&T contract didn't go on for another 18 months, I'd so buy it. Instead I might wait around on the Android phone for AT&T, if there ever is one.

i tink by the end of this year

Thundarr The Barbarian said:
Yes, taking complete control of an open source operating system with a free software development kit. JUST like Apple, in fact, it's practically the same.
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HAHA i was just about to post the same thing
The potential for the software that will work with the phone is endless. i can't wait to see what programs people come up with once its out

I think ill give it a try, as soon as GooglePhone will arrive here in Italy

For Those Wanting to Take the G1 to at&t...
The phone will not work on at&t 3G.
According to the specs listed on HTC's web site (http://www.htc.com/us/product/g1/specification.html), HS/WCDMA is available on 2100 MHz in Europe and 1700 / 2100 MHz in the US. T-Mobile uses 1700 / 2100 MHz while at&t uses 850 and 1900 MHz.
If you try to take this phone over to at&t (apart from the hassle of trying to get it unlocked), the best that it will operate at is GSM/EDGE, i.e. 2G.

Is it true there is a 1gb cap limit? If it is, it's freaking ridiculous for a phone they are trying to push as a secondary computer. Some awesome features, but hopefully they will increase the cap on it.

If I look at the pictures it looks like a piece of plastic crap ....sorry to say but expected much more out of it...They should have done a stunning phone design with there android os....Hope android itself is preforming...the phone can be replaced

MFx said:
If I look at the pictures it looks like a piece of plastic crap ....sorry to say but expected much more out of it...They should have done a stunning phone design with there android os....Hope android itself is preforming...the phone can be replaced
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Agree mate!
The phone is quite ugly, let´s hope Android can be installed on other HTC devices soon.
I think I´ll wait for the HD

$179 is with 2 year contract.
$399 is w/o contract.
After 90 days T-mobile will unlock it for you.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/23/t-mobiles-cto-on-g1-unlocking-and-tethering-plus-a-few-detai/

touch hd is good but thats jus a screen waiting to be cracked

burgertime said:
Is it true there is a 1gb cap limit? If it is, it's freaking ridiculous for a phone they are trying to push as a secondary computer. Some awesome features, but hopefully they will increase the cap on it.
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After 1GB in a month they limit your speeds "to 50kb/s or less". Like how AT&T's "unlimited" data is really only 5GB, and they start charging after that? T-Mobile decided to just cut the data transfer speed after 1GB. Technically, it's not a cap, your phone can still use data for things you NEED to get done... but at 50 kb/s, forget about downloading files.

Is the LTE chip in this phone faster than TBOLT?

Or same generation? My LTE speeds seems all over the chart sometimes on the tbolt, never consistent etc.
Thanks.

Im curious myself....i have a revolution and my wife a tbolt, and both are shotty at best....
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Same generation chip. New LTE chips aren't due until 2012. However, the implementation of the chip itself does depend going from manufacturer to manufacturer, as well as the processor they're working with. I get fine speeds on my Bionic.
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bworley from androidcentral compared both on a speed test on youtube, one right next to the other. The Bionic was considerably faster.

Wouldnt have a link to the video do you? I cant find it.
Thanks.

Videos are all gone
psufan5 said:
Wouldnt have a link to the video do you? I cant find it.
Thanks.
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http://forums.androidcentral.com/droid-bionic/115848-my-bionic.html
The videos were there. But in the middle of the thread, he stated he will not post any more info and took all the videos offline. People are assuming that Moto sent him a cease and desist letter, but it's all heresay afaik.

idefiler6 said:
bworley from androidcentral compared both on a speed test on youtube, one right next to the other. The Bionic was considerably faster.
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Good to know I'm not the only one that has noticed this. I stopped by Verizon earlier to take a look at their demo Bionic. The thing consistently got between 3-5 Mbps down more than the Thunderbolt running the latest leaked Gingerbread radio, and roughly 1 Mbps upload faster. Like I said, this was consistent test after test after test. I must have done 20 tests in the store with my Thunderbolt next to the Bionic, starting the tests at the exact same moment. There is definitely something different in the Bionic's favor.

My money is on the processor making the difference. The dual core is probably a better balance with the 4g.
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Speedtest.net app does not give accurate speeds IMO. Try http://www.mobilespeedtest.com , the 5MB or 7MB test gives more realistic numbers.
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animez said:
Speedtest.net app does not give accurate speeds IMO. Try http://www.mobilespeedtest.com , the 5MB or 7MB test gives more realistic numbers.
Sent from my SHIFTS3NS3 Thunderbolt
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They fixed that a little while after the Thunderbolt came out, 17/10 seems like reasonable speeds to me.

Berzerker7 said:
They fixed that a little while after the Thunderbolt came out, 17/10 seems like reasonable speeds to me.
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Not talking about the upload bug necessarily.
The standard deviation between several measurements of two phones tested side by side at the same time and with the same radios make me suspicious of speedtest.com as well.

Berzerker7 said:
Same generation chip. New LTE chips aren't due until 2012. However, the implementation of the chip itself does depend going from manufacturer to manufacturer, as well as the processor they're working with. I get fine speeds on my Bionic.
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Wow...mine came back only 1/4 of that yesterday
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speakeasy.net is the ONLY speed test thats accurate. The app doesnt work.. flat out DOESNT work. I get 4mb on it, while the browser and anything I tether with get 15-25.
www.speakeasy.net

ystasino said:
Not talking about the upload bug necessarily.
The standard deviation between several measurements of two phones tested side by side at the same time and with the same radios make me suspicious of speedtest.com as well.
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For the record, my side by side tests used the Speakeasy.net test and the Xtreme Labs Speed Test app. I don't use the Speedtest app. The servers they let run the speed tests are absolutely terrible.

New Nexus 4 Benchmarks from Anandtech show huge improvement!

ohsocreamy said:
As we know Anandtech published Nexus 4 benchmarks which show the phone underperforming significantly compared to its sister Optimus G. It appears they have since re-run the GLBenchmark tests and achieved much higher scores (in-line with the Optimus G) which they have not yet published.
You can analyse the full results here:
http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?benchmark=glpro25&D=Google+Nexus+4&testgroup=overall
Here is a brief summary of the main differences. They are very significant and the phone appears to perform as expected.
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Result will be likely hitting screen cap of ~60fps.
With these new results here is how the phone would stack up against their published results for other models for the common Egypt HD Offscreen test:
Discuss.
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Source (Reddit) , GLBench.

Mother of God.

Maybe now you benchmark lovers can finally stop *****ing? Please?

Someone explain this to me. lol

I'm much more interested in the battery life tests. Hopefully those have gotten better.

Slap-Yourself :) said:
Someone explain this to me. lol
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Essentially new benchmarks show the Nexus 4 performing much better than previous ones.
rumthin said:
I'm much more interested in the battery life tests. Hopefully those have gotten better.
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I agree, hopefully whatever changed to get these better results also will result in better battery life too.

Can't wait to hear what went wrong with the original results, and if the thermal throttling is going to become an issue.
Come on anandtech release an explanation already!!!

rumthin said:
I'm much more interested in the battery life tests. Hopefully those have gotten better.
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+1
Although the new test suggests that the thermal throttling issues have ceased - meaning the CPU usage is more efficient and this should translate into big gains for battery life - I would like to see this confirmed.
Would shut a number of people up.

This is some really good news... Now I REALLY can't wait 'til the 13th.
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Source? Don't see this posted anywhere on anandtech.

red12355 said:
Source? Don't see this posted anywhere on anandtech.
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They posted the new results on GLBenchmark's site, assumedly they will be included in the full review of the Nexus 4.
EDIT: http://www.glbenchmark.com/resultsoflogin.jsp?login=anandtech&benchmark=glpro25
There you can see that Anandtech posted it, and the date.

red12355 said:
Source? Don't see this posted anywhere on anandtech.
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Learn how to read!!!
It appears they have since re-run the GLBenchmark tests and achieved much higher scores (in-line with the Optimus G) which they have not yet published.
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So as i said, something was indeed fishy with their preview.
Good to see it's solved though.

FISKER_Q said:
So as i said, something was indeed fishy with their preview.
Good to see it's solved though.
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omg AS YOU SAID.
.... or as aaand and 200000 other people figured a copy paste phone should provide copy paste result.

MatAuc12 said:
omg AS YOU SAID.
.... or as aaand and 200000 other people figured a copy paste phone should provide copy paste result.
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That assumption could've been incorrect though as they are not a copy paste phone, definitely copy/paste hardware, but in theory the design could've been altered enough to be fatal for the thermals.
I was more going after the way they actually failed to properly document it.

For those of you who like me were wondering why these results were attributed to anand :
Click on the blue link for the test in question and it will bring up a list of logged tests. If you look on the right some are linked to anandtech's own GLBenchmark account.
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Assuming he didn't run those benchmarks with the Nexus 4 stuck in a freezer, that's really good news indeed. Hope the battery life will also see an improvement to get on par with Optimus G.

asasione said:
Learn how to read!!!
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Wasn't there before the edit.
Anyway, thanks OP. Good to know that the n4 is performing up to spec.

just wow!

What is interesting are Benchmarks Anandtech released were done on November first, a day before this preview they released on the second, and some numbers match and others are vastly different. I am curious as to why this review was posted when it would seem obvious that something else was at issue and numbers from their own run the day before are skewed.

Where are all of the trolls now?
Tail between their legs?
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Another brick that is way too large with a small battery

I originally was very excited about the N5, especially when it was supposed to be smaller than the N4 (which was already borderline - I would say 132mm h is the max)
But with this being another stupid brick, there is ZERO appeal - especially with such a small battery.
STUPID google!

17 hour talk time isn't anything to complain about.

cool story bro

yahoowizard said:
17 hour talk time isn't anything to complain about.
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Really? It's pretty ****ty, given that the equally sized G2 gets almost 24 hours?

andTab said:
Really? It's pretty ****ty, given that the equally sized G2 gets almost 24 hours?
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3000mAh =/= 2300 mAh

thats what he's saying, they should have put in a 3000mAh then.
with such a small storage, does anyone know if its supports USB OTG? cus right now thats probably the only thing making a difference for me (from the nexus 4).

they should have put in a 6000 mAh battery imo

I'm not going to ***** as long as it gets me through the day. I charge at night, and don't see why anyone else doesn't..

andTab said:
Really? It's pretty ****ty, given that the equally sized G2 gets almost 24 hours?
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Buy the G2?

yahoowizard said:
I'm not going to ***** as long as it gets me through the day. I charge at night, and don't see why anyone else doesn't..
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given that most of us probably work in front of a computer screen all day, the lack of extra micro USB cables is astonishing

lolcopter said:
they should have put in a 6000 mAh battery imo
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It really should be over.........
wait for it.........
wait for it.......
It's coming.....
over 9000!

lolcopter said:
3000mAh =/= 2300 mAh
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Well, since they made it a ****ty brick of a phone they should have kept the larger battery.
DUMB google.

andTab said:
Well, since they made it a ****ty brick of a phone they should have kept the larger battery.
DUMB google.
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You do understand that the N5 is a lot cheaper than the G2 ?
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andTab said:
Well, since they made it a ****ty brick of a phone they should have kept the larger battery.
DUMB google.
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then move along and buy a move expensive phone.

andTab said:
I originally was very excited about the N5, especially when it was supposed to be smaller than the N4 (which was already borderline - I would say 132mm h is the max)
But with this being another stupid brick, there is ZERO appeal - especially with such a small battery.
STUPID google!
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Thanks for sharing.
Obviously had enough appeal for you to take time out of your busy day to complain about what the second largest tech company in the world should do to earn your business.
With most units being sold out across the world, I'm sure "stupid" Google is laughing all the way to the bank.
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He's doing a bit obviously... I mean. Right?

Itchiee said:
He's doing a bit obviously... I mean. Right?
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He is a very obvious troll

psychoace said:
He is a very obvious troll
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He is very obvious child.
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[Guide] Headphone/Earphone Buying

It is a valid point.
Even if you want an expensive phone, there are little options.
Droid Maxx was US only, G2 is expensive. There you have the issue of lack of updates and crappy skins.
I want a phone with huge amounts of on screen time and the latest updates...