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I have had my cappy since release and have been flashing roms since. I'm some what of a techie so I have had no issue with the process and feel comfortable flashing CM7, but is it worth it. Should I wait or indulge myself? Thanks for the input.
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Personally I think you should go ahead and try it. It's by far the best rom I have ever ran and don't plan to go back to other roms for a long time if at all. It just runs so smoothly and just has an overall good feel to it. As far as everything is working for me it is very stable and usable no real issues that matter after the most recent update so I absolutely love it
It's worth it to try it. Just try it and see if it fits your tastes.
And if you don't like it, it's worth it to flash back to stock
I tried it and liked it, I just know that the CM7 team is going to be pushing out bigger and better things... It's just a matter of when. So for now, I'm sticking with Cog 4.1 and a custom kernel.
Thanks for the input guys. I think I'm going to give it another week and sed what else they release then I'm going for it!
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Make sure you know what works and what doesn't and if that's important to you. I know HD video doesn't and that might be a minor/non issue to those who say CM7 is great and works flawlessly for them. You have to apply your own criteria because someone elses may be far different from yours.
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Make sure you know what works and what doesn't and if that's important to you. I know HD video doesn't and that might be a minor/non issue to those who say CM7 is great and works flawlessly for them. You have to apply your own criteria because someone elses may be far different from yours.
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Seems you have made it a personal crusade out of warning people of the inherent dangers of CM7. Anytime someone asks any questions there you are. I don't think I've heard anyone including myself say that the rom is flawless but I could make a long list of bugs from every rom that has ever been released for the Captivate. Hell, I remember when DG put out Cog based on the 10/10 leak and he was pushing updates almost every night to fix things.
Known Bugs
Front Facing-Camera (Obviously, as our Cappys don't have Front-Facing Cameras)
Polling problem on RIL (works after lock and unlock)
2G/3G toggle (works if no data connection is active)
Compass (works not at 100%)
USB sharing of external SD-Card
commands: reboot recovery, reboot download (maybe not possible to implement)
FM-Radio
TV-Out
If you're fine with the above, I actually think it's really stable for a Beta. It's up to you The process is a bit hard to do than a normal ROM though.
Roof King said:
Seems you have made it a personal crusade out of warning people of the inherent dangers of CM7. Anytime someone asks any questions there you are. I don't think I've heard anyone including myself say that the rom is flawless but I could make a long list of bugs from every rom that has ever been released for the Captivate. Hell, I remember when DG put out Cog based on the 10/10 leak and he was pushing updates almost every night to fix things.
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I could point you to a dozen posts where users of CM7 either downplayed the issues or claimed it was running flawlessly on their Cappy. I can also point you to as many posts of people who screwed up the install or had other issues with it. Both get pretty tiresome.
This thread is no different than asking which ROM is best and should be closed just like those are. It really is a personal preference. At the least, it should have been asked in the CM7 sticky, that's what they're here for.
Roof King said:
Seems you have made it a personal crusade out of warning people of the inherent dangers of CM7. Anytime someone asks any questions there you are. I don't think I've heard anyone including myself say that the rom is flawless but I could make a long list of bugs from every rom that has ever been released for the Captivate. Hell, I remember when DG put out Cog based on the 10/10 leak and he was pushing updates almost every night to fix things.
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It seems he is on a crusader against a lot of things. The eternal pessimist
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I could point you to a dozen posts where users of CM7 either downplayed the issues or claimed it was running flawlessly on their Cappy. I can also point you to as many posts of people who screwed up the install or had other issues with it. Both get pretty tiresome.
This thread is no different than asking which ROM is best and should be closed just like those are. It really is a personal preference. At the least, it should have been asked in the CM7 sticky, that's what they're here for.
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Lets be fair, there have been tons of threads because someone bricked their phone flashing cognition, serendipity, etc. I have helped some that have soft bricked their phone just trying to root.
There have been hundreds of threads because of odin soft bricks.
I am on two weeks with it on my phone. the issues that exist, if you read, are all avoidable. I am not "claiming" anything other than it is more than stable enough for daily use, but it is a work in progress.
Is it worth it, yes, as long as you can read and comprehend. Treat your phone like the valuable hardware it is, and don't flash if you are unsure
Ps. Have you submitted your mod application
CM7
I'm running Juiced 1.2. I love it.
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Is it worth it, yes, as long as you can read and comprehend.
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That's a major caveat in here, seeing how common sense is at a premium these days.
Ps. Have you submitted your mod application
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I'm already a mod or admin at several other sites, including a cell phone site. They all have pretty much the same rules and expectations and about the same number of users that disregard both. Mr. Clown and Zelendel do a fine job, but the users also have a responsibility to help out when possible. There are a number of stickies in this subforum specifically for certain ROMs. They were created to help reduce the clutter and keep the forum focused. This thread should have gone there along with a number of others. If people would just take a moment to think before starting a thread, this place would run a lot smoother, especially for those who view it from their devices. Just sayin'.
For a long while now an on many different roms I have noticed my phone rebooting at what appears to be random atleast twice a week.
It's never been when in a call and I often only notice it because I see the boot animation on my phone out of the corner of my eye while it was doing nothing but being sat on my desk! Also I know when it has done it because it has switched back to my default network which I am not normally on.
For me I have had it on everything from CM7 to Juwes to docs rom to stock. If this is not normal behaviour I fear that my phone may have a hardware fault
Post your random reboot experiences here!
My experience: rarely with Darky 10.1, I got one today with Juwe 5.1 but I installed this rom two days ago and still making some experiment.
Bye.
always close to stock cfroot only + own changes = never had issues ...
Both my husband and I get them at least twice a week also, we are on stock JVH that we got from O2 through Kies, not rooted or anything. we are thinking of phoning samsung tomorrow, we never had any of these on 2.2, so I think it must be software with us both getting them since 2.3. both our phones are still in guarantee, although if it is software I dont know what they can do
TBH I haven't actually been on a pure stock rom for quite some time. From what I remember I would get the occasional random reboot but probably not quite as often as I have done since turning to custom roms.
Could some fundamental change that many custom roms make cause this?
Or could perhaps a certain rogue app which I have had installed on many different roms be causing this?
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Both my husband and I get them at least twice a week also, we are on stock JVH that we got from O2 through Kies, not rooted or anything. we are thinking of phoning samsung tomorrow, we never had any of these on 2.2, so I think it must be software with us both getting them since 2.3. both our phones are still in guarantee, although if it is software I dont know what they can do
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Yes this is partly why I decided to create this thread and try to get to the bottom of it. My warranty runs out in 2/3 months and the paranoid side of me fears a hardware issue. I also started on 2.2 and don't think I got quite as many, if any, random reboots then which seems to coincide with your experiences.
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Yes this is partly why I decided to create this thread and try to get to the bottom of it. My warranty runs out in 2/3 months and the paranoid side of me fears a hardware issue. I also started on 2.2 and don't think I got quite as many, if any, random reboots then which seems to coincide with your experiences.
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Yeah our guarantee runs out in about 6 or 7 weeks which is why I thought of phoning them, my phone has been back once because the motherboard or whatever its called had to be replaced. do you think it could be hardware?
kezgez said:
Yeah our guarantee runs out in about 6 or 7 weeks which is why I thought of phoning them, my phone has been back once because the motherboard or whatever its called had to be replaced. do you think it could be hardware?
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I have no idea. I'm starting to think probably not. so far 75% of people to this poll have reboots either daily or weekly. I think it could be a software bug in all gingerbread based roms but i really don't no. Would be interesting to flash back to stock froyo and see if it persists then.
Keep an eye on this thread and hopefully we can get to the bottom of this
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Both my husband and I get them at least twice a week also, we are on stock JVH that we got from O2 through Kies, not rooted or anything. we are thinking of phoning samsung tomorrow, we never had any of these on 2.2, so I think it must be software with us both getting them since 2.3. both our phones are still in guarantee, although if it is software I dont know what they can do
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Ideal time to flash a custom rom with root. Follow the white rabbit.........
blockbuster 2.4
Are those who never get any random reboots mostly on stock roms? if so which roms?
mhm...............
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so far 75% of people to this poll have reboots either daily or weekly. I think it could be a software bug in all gingerbread based roms but i really don't no
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question/thread title is "Does your phone suffer from random reboots?" so majorityof people that does not have any reboots/problems will not join to read so they will not vote
also by the thread title in some way youre determining the anserw yet still youve got 15 people voted (thats not authoritative + 350 thread openings...) & 33% of them said NEVER
I used to get random reboots on stock firmware, because samsung can't write software! Since running cm7 based software (insanity cm) I haven't had one single reboot, the stability is mindblowing and it is super stable, however it is not really for flashing novices, just my humble opinion
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I'm with 2.3.4 JVP, and usually after an uptime of around 333 hours the phone reboots itself, happened twice...
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question/thread title is "Does your phone suffer from random reboots?" so majorityof people that does not have any reboots/problems will not join to read so they will not vote
also by the thread title in some way youre determining the anserw yet still youve got 15 people voted (thats not authoritative + 350 thread openings...) & 33% of them said NEVER
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Yes I do admit I haven't received the amount of feedback I was hoping for in this thread. And yes I am fully aware that polling on here is far from an accurate way of gathering data exactly for the reason you suggested but still I hoped to learn something about the extent of this phenomenon.
Also when I wrote that quote that you critisied for being inaccurate it was correct at the time. If not a little premature
However please feel free to share your experiences (or lack of) the topic in question.
I voted 'very rarely' - usually when running a buggy app that uses all RAM and CPU.
No reboots by itself so far.
to much, using dark core 2.6 , pilotx rom
Wow I thought I am the only who suffer with this..LOL...My phone is running JVO 2.3.3 and I updated it via Kies...no root no lagfix, quite a virgin Galaxy S..hahaah...
Very rarely, and it was only after this one time I had to swap batteries and didn't allow the phone to fully shutdown which must've caused some corruption. Even though I restored a backup certain things just seemed off and turned out I did had problems with reboots and so after that, most likely being the cause.
Besides that, after putting in a fresh ROM and whatnot, never had issues, not before the incident save once maybe.
I have changed to juwe 5.1 today from his 5.0. Was playing angry birds and left phone down for minute, then soon as screen locked it rebooted itself. Have not tried with other apps yet. Will post back when tried them out
I'm in the market for a new phone and I was on the brink of getting an Incredible S but I then stumbled across a lot of pages of people reporting reception problems which make the phone unusable. However, I'm always wary of pages dedicated to reporting problems as you get only problems reported and very few people reporting the good aspects.
So what I'd like to know is whether any Incredible S users out there have reception problems such as dropped calls, lost SMS, messages arriving days late etc? These are the things that I'm seeing people reporting but I don't know quite how prolific these issues really are.
Thanks in advance.
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I'm in the market for a new phone and I was on the brink of getting an Incredible S but I then stumbled across a lot of pages of people reporting reception problems which make the phone unusable. However, I'm always wary of pages dedicated to reporting problems as you get only problems reported and very few people reporting the good aspects.
So what I'd like to know is whether any Incredible S users out there have reception problems such as dropped calls, lost SMS, messages arriving days late etc? These are the things that I'm seeing people reporting but I don't know quite how prolific these issues really are.
Thanks in advance.
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this phone, for me, has been absolute perfection (no issues). not that the phone is perfect (almost is), but it really is a perfect match for my expectations/needs/wants AT THIS TIME (i'm sure my needs/wants will change in a few months). and you are going to hear a lot of different opinions because everybody has different needs/wants. also, everyone is on different carriers and setups. there are just too many variables.
again, imo, this phone suits me perfect at the moment and there are no issues for me.
I appreciate that there will be differing opinions about peoples expectations but hopefuly everyones expectations about how a phone should work as far as basic phone functionality shouldn't be too far apart - I imagine most people will want it to have reception when in known good reception areas without having to resort to bizarre hand contortions.
Things like camera and media playback are far more down to individual perception and as such I'm not overly interested in the majority of online reviews as they tend to deal mainly with the bells and whistles whereas I'm interested in the basic bread and butter functions which seem to be increasingly overlooked by phone reviewers.
i absolutely agree. a far as basic functions go, i haven't had any issues that i can think of. it just works. but again, that could be specific to my setup and carrier.
Best phone I've ever had by far..
mr nick said:
I'm in the market for a new phone and I was on the brink of getting an Incredible S but I then stumbled across a lot of pages of people reporting reception problems which make the phone unusable. However, I'm always wary of pages dedicated to reporting problems as you get only problems reported and very few people reporting the good aspects.
So what I'd like to know is whether any Incredible S users out there have reception problems such as dropped calls, lost SMS, messages arriving days late etc? These are the things that I'm seeing people reporting but I don't know quite how prolific these issues really are.
Thanks in advance.
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The IncS has exceeded my expectations. I bought an unlocked Canadian Bell Mobile model on eBay and I am using in on AT&T network here in US. I have not had any reception issues, dropped calls or experienced delays in SMS messages.
no issues, and so far the best fit phone for my needs. 4.0" display is just right for some1 to hold the phone and get the best of both worlds feel. and no reception issues or whatsoever. just the sms delay and call delay problem but that is rom problem. just make sure u get the froyo one then you're pretty much good to go
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no issues, and so far the best fit phone for my needs. 4.0" display is just right for some1 to hold the phone and get the best of both worlds feel.
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completely agree. had a 4.3" phone but felt just a bit too big/clumsy.
This phone is awesome, dont have any problems with missing calls or sms. Only negative aspect for me is 4.0 display, it`s a bit big for me, next phone would be 3.7 or 3.5.
madbw said:
This phone is awesome, dont have any problems with missing calls or sms. Only negative aspect for me is 4.0 display, it`s a bit big for me, next phone would be 3.7 or 3.5.
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Really? The display is my favorite part I think!
It's absolutely perfect
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Really? The display is my favorite part I think!
It's absolutely perfect
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i absolutely agree. the screen is the best part of the phone. it's beautiful and the size is perfect for me.
a great phone, also he dive into a bucket with water and survive it
Phones amazing. Never experienced an issue and never needed to run a process that my phone couldn't handle. However using the stock ROM I did experience lag and slowdown yet after installing a custom ROM I've never experienced lag.
Just as others have said (although another voice could only convince you more ), I have had no problems with this phone. Does everything I need it to do, and does it very well!
Officially recommended by System92
With cm7 I feel like the phone is waiting for me, and I'm the one lagging lol
Best Android phone I've had so far, with excellent battery life on moderate usage (more than 2 days), screen is absolutely amazing, no lag so far, the stock Rom 2.3 is a bit dinky but that's ok as well. Bluetooth is absolutely great, I can actually connect and make phone calls with my car kit, with the phone in my pocket. Audio quality is great as well, the camera video recording is not what I was expecting, but I believe it's software thing...
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With cm7 I feel like the phone is waiting for me, and I'm the one lagging lol
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I hopped in my roflcopter
OK, thanks for all the reassuring replies. I've just placed my order for the phone so it should be with me in a day or so. I'm guessing it will be newer stock though and that it won't be rootable at this point but as long as it is able to send and receive calls/SMS then I'm happy to wait and see if an unlock solution crops up.
The new stock isn't root-able?
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The new stock isn't root-able?
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I may have mis-read (I've read that many pages while deciding which phone to buy) but I was led to believe that the newer phones have a different version of hboot that isn't yet rootable.
OK.guys I have a stock n1 running 2.3.6 but I am tired of the wifi issue my question is if I root does this fix the issue and also what are the benefits of rooting and which is the best method and rom
Thanks in advance
Can't answer for certainty because we don't know if your problem is software or hardware related.
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my wifi keep on droping off when i google it i see its a problem with the n1
hope this helps
I haven't run stock since Froyo came out, but I haven't had any issues with my wifi, so if it is an issue with software, it doesn't seem like it exists in CyanogenMod. But as baseballfanz mentioned, it is too difficult to determine whether your issue is hardware or software. If it is software, it should be fixed. The two most popular custom ROMs are CyanogenMod and MIUI. I know CyanogenMod covers a lot of the additional features on their website, I am not sure about MIUI, but both probably include better perfomance and battery life, along with a ton of extra features.
Never had any WiFi issues myself or heard of anyone else having any with the N1. I suppose you could TRY another rom but I'm not sure if that would work. If you do I would recommend a cyanogenmod simply because theres so many people using that if anyone else has had this issue its probably been reported and solved if it was a software problem. Always worth a hot and if nothing else theres more to do with a rooted phone anyway.
Good luck, hope you'll let us know how you get on.
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Never had any WiFi issues myself or heard of anyone else having any with the N1. I suppose you could TRY another rom but I'm not sure if that would work. If you do I would recommend a cyanogenmod simply because theres so many people using that if anyone else has had this issue its probably been reported and solved if it was a software problem. Always worth a hot and if nothing else theres more to do with a rooted phone anyway.
Good luck, hope you'll let us know how you get on.
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There are many people reporting Wi-Fi issues on the Nexus One on a stock ROM after the 2.3.6 update. Many threads in this forum, as well as google's support forum...
Root anyway
Too many benefits and too much fun not to--
Full image backups
Better app managemet
Faster Updates
Ability to run Sense roms
Overclocking
etc
etc
ok ok you guys twisted my arm lol i am going to install cm7.1 let you know how this runs
If you are not rooted yet back up phone with an app like MyBackUp Pro and copy sdcard to pc
Include System Wipe as part of wiping phone before flashing new rom
Best Recovery--latest non-beta Amon_Ra
Wiki has good root info--
not worried about apps all free app can download so not going to back up lol
Your Brave
It backs up more than apps--does System/Home Screens/Bookmarks/SMS/MMS/Playlists etc
Def do your sdcard
Good Luck
brave you say lol
its a new phone so i dont have anything i want to keep in it new as in new to me but a used phone
hey guy sorry took long to report i sucessfully rooted my n1 rubbing cm7 are there any good sense roms i could try i really like the sense interface thanks alot
Check in the Nexus One Android Development forum, or look at the Nexus One wiki, which lists more roms as well. I just went to the Development forum myself and did a search for "sense", there's multiple Sense roms in that forum.
Good luck.
I loaded a runnymedemod007 v007 ROM RUNNING GREAT SO FAR
Hey where Is my manners THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE ASSISTANCE !!!
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Every Cyanogenmod rom I've tried, bet it 4.1/4.2 has really bad scrolling issues where the screen/page keeps snapping back. It is very obvious when you scroll fast. Nobody seems to post this problem in the threads for the roms and whenever I do, I never get a response as if I'm the only one with the issue. However, I've seen videos of others with the same roms and whenever they scroll I can see the same problem. Will this issue ever be fixed, or will be people continue to pretend it doesn't exist? I really want to use a ROM without Sense but the issue is just so frustrating.
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Every Cyanogenmod rom I've tried, bet it 4.1/4.2 has really bad scrolling issues where the screen/page keeps snapping back. It is very obvious when you scroll fast. Nobody seems to post this problem in the threads for the roms and whenever I do, I never get a response as if I'm the only one with the issue. However, I've seen videos of others with the same roms and whenever they scroll I can see the same problem. Will this issue ever be fixed, or will be people continue to pretend it doesn't exist? I really want to use a ROM without Sense but the issue is just so frustrating.
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I have the same issue with most custom roms.
This is why I have a fear for custom roms now. Users claim that the rom is stable/ excellent, yet I find lots of issues when I flash them.
btw, if your kernel supports STweaks, you lighten this issue by going to screen > touchmove sensitivity > 20 pixels
c3vzn said:
Every Cyanogenmod rom I've tried, bet it 4.1/4.2 has really bad scrolling issues where the screen/page keeps snapping back. It is very obvious when you scroll fast. Nobody seems to post this problem in the threads for the roms and whenever I do, I never get a response as if I'm the only one with the issue. However, I've seen videos of others with the same roms and whenever they scroll I can see the same problem. Will this issue ever be fixed, or will be people continue to pretend it doesn't exist? I really want to use a ROM without Sense but the issue is just so frustrating.
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I have this on my Nexus 7 as well, not sure what is causing it but I know what you mean. I have seen no fix for it, I am used to it now so I scroll slower
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I have the same issue with most custom roms.
This is why I have a fear for custom roms now. Users claim that the rom is stable/ excellent, yet I find lots of issues when I flash them.
btw, if your kernel supports STweaks, you lighten this issue by going to screen > touchmove sensitivity > 20 pixels
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STweaks is for samsung devices
STweaks is for samsung devices
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oops, you caught a samsung user hanging out in the htc section hahahaha
but yeah I just googled "horrible scrolling cyanogenmod" because I have had the same problem across two samsung phones.
I have no real problem on 4.3 or any CyanogenMod ROM for that matter. Smooth sailing. All except CM7, for some reason it jolted and skipped around. Anything beats stock ROM as well
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