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My new Touch Diamond is such a complete dog in terms of its ability to respond within less than 2 seconds to any 'touch', that I either have to get rid of it, or change the ROM to something better.
I've got the latest Orange UK upgrade ( came as delivered ), have installed advanced config & made the various changes suggested on this forum, but its made zero difference.
Anyone got a suggestion for a ROM to instal ?
Im running the latest version of the Orange UK ROM, and am having no problems, in fact it flies.
Have you tried changing to a cooked ROM? that may well help
Have you tried using DiamondTweak and TF3D Config?
I was hoping for some guidance on which cooked ROM to use that has 'speed' as its main idea...
try the new 2.00 ROM series, much better than 1.93/1.97 or whatever
see my sig
2.00
yes this is the way forward
before you try to install a cooked rom....read....read and then...read some more
i don't want your next post to be " help....i have bricked my phone"
welcome to the forum and good luck with your diamond
Thanks all. I've done ROM upgrades before so no problems getting to the 2.00 ones.
In fact I did it yesterday morning with Shaks ROM & battery life improved so much I've stil lhave not had to charge it. Used to be every morning. Responsiveness improved a lot, although now have slight problems with the 'start' button ( only works sometimes ) & photo album / contacts being TOO responsive & you simply cant flick through either of them without activating them.
Anyone got any solutions ?
Cheers
shawfield said:
Thanks all. I've done ROM upgrades before so no problems getting to the 2.00 ones.
In fact I did it yesterday morning with Shaks ROM & battery life improved so much I've stil lhave not had to charge it. Used to be every morning. Responsiveness improved a lot, although now have slight problems with the 'start' button ( only works sometimes ) & photo album / contacts being TOO responsive & you simply cant flick through either of them without activating them.
Anyone got any solutions ?
Cheers
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try flashing with the latest version 2.10
Hello everyone ,
Does someone experiences the same problems as seen in this thread for the Touch HD?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446440
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To sum up, there's little 'freezes' lasting 4-5 seconds where the screen doesn't respond to any inputs.
It occurs randomly and without reason.
HTC released an hotfix regarding this problem, that can be found here:
http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=179&cat=0&dl_id=448
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However, this is for the Blackstone. When executed on the X1, there is a message box saying
"Please use the correct device to install this hotfix program"
The fix can be extracted and there's a _setup.xml that seems to tell what the .exe does;
I was wondering if it were possible to port it for the X1 as the Blackstone and the X1 are somewhat similar?
NB:
Hard resets didn't helped neither, freezes are also present.
I'm using this:
ROM Version: 1.02.933.3
ROM Date: 08/29/08
Radio Version: 1.06.25.29
Software Version: R1AA017
I also have these freezes occasionally.
I managed to install the files from the hotfix the other night, (because, well because I like to experiment) I spent 5 times as long removing them.
The display inverted, but not the calibration!
ill change the cab info install at your own risk.
however i do not have this issue. I have an issue of after long idels of not using my x1 at work the screen will apear to be cracked but the images are really cracked. a soft reset fixes this issue. (this is ment for a seperate thread) just giving you info on other display bugs on the x1
also can you upload the cab as the htc site will not allow me to download it.
My issue is actually with the camera... if you leave the Camera application on a long time, like 20-30 minutes idle, it will eventually crash, and it will say Camera.exe has stopped responding (or something like that, asking if you want to send a report to MIcrosoft)
just get freezes when i use the HTC album. other then that, nope.
Here's the .exe (renamed to .cab since xda seems to block .exe),
for those who can't manage to download it.
@Shadowmike
Thanks for your help
Sorry to go off topic a little :
Regarding your idle screen problems, I don't have any of it (maybe because I'm experimenting tweaks with it a lot so don't have time to idle really long )
May it be related to GWES:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa925858.aspx
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To sum up, there's an interesting registry value named PORepaint that can take values from 0 to 3.
The key I would change may be:
HKLM\System\GWE\PORepaint
The factory default on my X1 is 0 but for your problem, I would set it's value to 2.
Personal Feedback:
When you press the ON button in order to wake the screen, the screen goes blanks for few milliseconds (blank flash), but it's repainting the entire area.
No major speed issues noticed between 0 and 2 values.
Hope this helps
I have the same problem with my X1, using the latest R2 rom (generic UK). It annoys the most when playing games like Bejeweled 2 and the screen suddenly freeze for a few seconds although the game and time keep running in the background and when it stop freezing I already lose time/points. It also happens with every other game I tried playing, even after hard reset. Any fix available yet?
doclucas said:
I have the same problem with my X1, using the latest R2 rom (generic UK). It annoys the most when playing games like Bejeweled 2 and the screen suddenly freeze for a few seconds although the game and time keep running in the background and when it stop freezing I already lose time/points. It also happens with every other game I tried playing, even after hard reset. Any fix available yet?
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Exactly what I get. It is most encountered in games where you touch the screen rapidly. Suddenly the whole OS freezes for 5-6 seconds then continues for some time until you get it again. It is very annoying.
Exactly. It happens ONLY with rapid screen presses. I observed this when typing.
Yes. This happens to my X1 also. It is possible to reliably replicate this bug.
The shadowmike's Cab didn't do anything usefull. So the HTC's Hotfix for the HD doesn't apply
Anyway, I made a Video describing this bug:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cOhX8yY5Yk
Hm.. Yesterday right after I did that video, I flashed my X1 with the newest official ROM (version 1.03.931.8 (dated 12/21/08)) from this site. Then, I installed the shadowmike's cab. After the soft reset, the problem hasn't (yet) surfaced (plus the system seems more responsive). Fingers crossed .
Edit: Nope.. False alarm. It still happens. Though rarely..
yup...
it happens...
doesn't really concerns me though...this is windows mobile anyway
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Yes. This happens to my X1 also. It is possible to reliably replicate this bug.
The shadowmike's Cab didn't do anything usefull. So the HTC's Hotfix for the HD doesn't apply
Anyway, I made a Video describing this bug:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cOhX8yY5Yk
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Youtube a$$hole$ seem to have removed your video for some reason, was a good one though, wonder if they get commission from SE. Maybe you can post it on a different video site...
shadowmike said:
ill change the cab info install at your own risk.
however i do not have this issue. I have an issue of after long idels of not using my x1 at work the screen will apear to be cracked but the images are really cracked. a soft reset fixes this issue. (this is ment for a seperate thread) just giving you info on other display bugs on the x1
also can you upload the cab as the htc site will not allow me to download it.
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Thx a lot for having uploaded cabs as I have sometmes the freezing issue also from my side on my X1
doclucas said:
Youtube a$$hole$ seem to have removed your video for some reason, was a good one though, wonder if they get commission from SE. Maybe you can post it on a different video site...
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Strange.. I can still access and see the video (no cookies works too). Does the video still appear deleted? Or was it just a glitch
Aye, same here... Mostly when playing insaniquarium. I just tried the .cab fix, didn't fix anything for me
SquidgyB said:
Aye, same here... Mostly when playing insaniquarium. I just tried the .cab fix, didn't fix anything for me
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it happens to me as well...i think this generic bug in x1.
So how do I reliably test the bug ? It happens to me sometimes, but I did not find the pattern yet.
Watch my video (top of this page) to see how I did it (I've shot myself (with a camera ) couple of times doing it).
If that doesn't work, try to load some app. Like any game that somehow reacts to your touch (even Bejeweled works). Then try touching really fast and repeatedly. It shoud happen.
Here's a sound recording of me tapping a jewl in Bejeweled (i'm really hitting the display, do it more gently). It should give you an idea how fast you need to tap. Right before 0:06 the screen stopped responding, i did 4 taps to verify, and then another, and then it started responding again (3 more taps). Sometimes all it takes is 5 seconds (like it did here), but other times, your hand will start to hurt before it happens. Just rest a little bit and then try it again.
Al the roms with Windows 6.5 and Sense 2.5 I tried got the bad habbit of going to sleep when I dont want. Only way to solve that is by removing the battery or the soft reset button on the backside. I think there is already a topic about it somewhere.
What I am wondering... is there a Rom with WM 6.5 and Sense 2.5 that does not got this problem and is very stable?
have you tried setting a different sleep setting?
And pretty much all of em are stable, my phone never ever crashes (using valkyrie).
edit: go here: settings>system>power>backlight
jodeltje said:
have you tried setting a different sleep setting?
And pretty much all of em are stable, my phone never ever crashes (using valkyrie).
edit: go here: settings>system>power>backlight
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Thanks for your answer, but what I mean with sleeping is that the phone hangs. Nothing but the black screen, almost look like the phone is turned off. Even holding the powerbutton for 5 seconds does not help.
So nothing to do with the backlight option, just can't find the topic about this isseu yet..
read here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=579922
ok, here how i start, i counter lots of auto HARDRESET/dead.
when hardreset/dead this will happens ,:
-all contacts on PHONE MEMORY will gone,
-all Messages will gone,
-battery will be lost more then 30%,
-wasting time,
-need to align screen,
now what is the most worst part is, when i push the power button, stuck on SE logo and sometimes will go to "align screen" settings, about 3-5mins,i dont know what can i call it, SOD?FREEZE?ZOMBIE phone?
Huns said:
ok, here how i start, i counter lots of auto HARDRESET/dead.
when hardreset/dead this will happens ,:
-all contacts on PHONE MEMORY will gone,
-all Messages will gone,
-battery will be lost more then 30%,
-wasting time,
-need to align screen,
now what is the most worst part is, when i push the power button, stuck on SE logo and sometimes will go to "align screen" settings, about 3-5mins,i dont know what can i call it, SOD?FREEZE?ZOMBIE phone?
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Hard Reset is by definition a full (=hard) reset to original (ROM or factory) settings - consequently most of the points you mentioned above are pretty normal. Only battery drain seems a bit too much, but that might depend on the ROM you use (or your battery's age)
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Hard Reset is by definition a full (=hard) reset to original (ROM or factory) settings - consequently most of the points you mentioned above are pretty normal. Only battery drain seems a bit too much, but that might depend on the ROM you use (or your battery's age)
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maybe, i m not sure, i m just wondering, why my phone always stuck and must do that thingy? i hate it, any suggestion?
Huns said:
ok, here how i start, i counter lots of auto HARDRESET/dead.
when hardreset/dead this will happens ,:
-all contacts on PHONE MEMORY will gone,
-all Messages will gone,
-battery will be lost more then 30%,
-wasting time,
-need to align screen,
now what is the most worst part is, when i push the power button, stuck on SE logo and sometimes will go to "align screen" settings, about 3-5mins,i dont know what can i call it, SOD?FREEZE?ZOMBIE phone?
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I'm not an advance member but if I were you, I will flash my X1 with other ROM. If it still occurs, hardware problem (but honestly) I have never heard such problem in PocketPC designed over WM5+.
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maybe, i m not sure, i m just wondering, why my phone always stuck and must do that thingy? i hate it, any suggestion?
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AFAIK it has never been fully revealed how and why some ROMs create more or less frequent SODs - there are quite a few threads on that topic in the forum.
JeromeJaques19's suggestion is not bad, you should take that into consideration.
Another option would be to start off with a freshly hard-resetted ROM and adding your own applications one by one, checking carefully after each one if stability is affected or not - chances are you find a culprit. After all, it's only Windows
surely that's ROM problem.. just change your ROM.. 826x is the most stable sense ROM.. and for non-sense ROM, use Twinge ROM..
duke_dreadmoore said:
surely that's ROM problem.. just change your ROM.. 826x is the most stable sense ROM.. and for non-sense ROM, use Twinge ROM..
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at that time, i m using 826x rom. After about 2-3 days with that kind of problems, i change to the 826x old rom, and it seems have the same problems. now i m using ENERGY rom, no lagging at all, just freeze sometimes. thanks for reply.
run Task29 (search for it here), which is a "deep wipe" of the phone ROM, then install the ROM you choose.
I personally would use a 6.1 ROM, for example Mr Rusch's with Sense 2.5 - the best of both worlds. It looks good and is stable.
I would also recommend installing Advanced Config (again on this site) and going to the power management tab and setting the last 2 options to between 30-50 seconds. The "resume" issue at is at the heart of the SODs/freezes.
Hey,
So my dad isnt exactly satisfied with the custom ROM I flashed on his device, he needs to wait about 4 - 5 seconds (!) when theres an incoming call for the screen to turn on. The ringtone will keep on going off during that few seconds, but the screen will be black.
So I tested it on my Nexus 4, and no such issue has been spotted by me. Although, on his device, no matter how many times I tried, the issue was never gone and I had to wait a couple of seconds for the screen to turn on so I could see who's calling.
I'm not sure whether it is a kitkat issue or not, I tried 2 different roms, first BeanStalk, and now CyanFox, both had the same issue.
I also tried to flash CM10.1, but the keyboard kept on crashing after a fresh flash, wipes didnt help (maybe someone could give me a hand here?).
Another question is, where can I find some good call recording app? the ones from the play store aren't good, they only record one side of the call, never both
tl;dr:
is there some setting that I should change for the screen to turn on quicker when theres an incoming call on kitkat?
what to do if I want to downgrade from kitkat to jellybean?
is there some GOOD call recorder app around?
thank you
Pawelss said:
Hey,
So my dad isnt exactly satisfied with the custom ROM I flashed on his device, he needs to wait about 4 - 5 seconds (!) when theres an incoming call for the screen to turn on. The ringtone will keep on going off during that few seconds, but the screen will be black.
So I tested it on my Nexus 4, and no such issue has been spotted by me. Although, on his device, no matter how many times I tried, the issue was never gone and I had to wait a couple of seconds for the screen to turn on so I could see who's calling.
I'm not sure whether it is a kitkat issue or not, I tried 2 different roms, first BeanStalk, and now CyanFox, both had the same issue.
I also tried to flash CM10.1, but the keyboard kept on crashing after a fresh flash, wipes didnt help (maybe someone could give me a hand here?).
Another question is, where can I find some good call recording app? the ones from the play store aren't good, they only record one side of the call, never both
tl;dr:
is there some setting that I should change for the screen to turn on quicker when theres an incoming call on kitkat?
what to do if I want to downgrade from kitkat to jellybean?
is there some GOOD call recorder app around?
thank you
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If you still on cm10.1 then download keyboard from market and you are good to go Also stock 4.1.2 has this lag issue when incoming call its pretty annoying really
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If you still on cm10.1 then download keyboard from market and you are good to go Also stock 4.1.2 has this lag issue when incoming call its pretty annoying really
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hey, thanks for your reply
actually no, STOCK 4.1.2 didnt have this issue, it started to show when I flashed 4.4.2 on it, is there some sort of fix for this or do I have to downgrade to JB? I'd rather stick to KK as I prefer it more.
on the other hand my dad hated google hangouts and he wants the stock messaging app back, I guess I can only go with CM
also I cant install a keyboard from the market, because I cant even log in to my google account, I cant get through the setup without a few things crashing over and over again, every second or so. the keyboard doesnt even show up
delete the latinIme.apk from the zip file you are trying to flash and substitute it with one from the other roms you tried flashing.
I know how to control the delay with which the ringer starts but not screen :s
These commands I think only help when call ends but it doesn't hurt to try, add them (or check the values if already present)
to build.prop in zipfile before you flash it
Code:
ro.lge.proximity.delay=5
mot.proximity.delay=5
I am on kitkat right now and have no lag issue...have you tried changing kernel?
Rudjgaard said:
delete the latinIme.apk from the zip file you are trying to flash and substitute it with one from the other roms you tried flashing.
I know how to control the delay with which the ringer starts but not screen :s
These commands I think only help when call ends but it doesn't hurt to try, add them (or check the values if already present)
to build.prop in zipfile before you flash it
Code:
ro.lge.proximity.delay=5
mot.proximity.delay=5
I am on kitkat right now and have no lag issue...have you tried changing kernel?
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hey, thanks for your reply
I flashed Nameless ROM and surprisingly the lag issue is gone, and due to stripped gapps I flashed, I got the old messaging app back, which is quite the perfect combo, now the only thing I am missing is a good call recording app, is there a chance you can suggest one to me?
thanks again!
Pawelss said:
hey, thanks for your reply
I flashed Nameless ROM and surprisingly the lag issue is gone, and due to stripped gapps I flashed, I got the old messaging app back, which is quite the perfect combo, now the only thing I am missing is a good call recording app, is there a chance you can suggest one to me?
thanks again!
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Still havent tried nameless but i did red the thread about it. Seems everyone likes it. It should be good
tuncay_93 said:
Still havent tried nameless but i did red the thread about it. Seems everyone likes it. It should be good
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well I tried it out, the rom is nice and all, but my phone is extremely slow, the lag issue with phone calls is back, sometimes turning the screen off is impossible, or takes up to 2 minutes (!). turning it back on isnt much better either, I dont know what the problem is, the same thing happened on the BeanStalk ROM so I assume it isnt a software issue, but a hardware one, do you have any ideas what could be the problem and how can I solve it?
I want to tell you my experience about custom roms.
I don't know if you tried this combo: CM11 + kicos kernel (modified iodak's kernel) + minimal PA gapps
I works for me very well.
LGaljo said:
I want to tell you my experience about custom roms.
I don't know if you tried this combo: CM11 + kicos kernel (modified iodak's kernel) + minimal PA gapps
I works for me very well.
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yeah, but shouldnt all the 4.4.2 ROMs be quite snappy? doesn't kitkat reduce the hardware requirements? why would JB work fine (or so I think, I'll go back to stock in a few mins and see) and KK be laggy as hell?
I've got a theory, I'm not a hardware guy and I dont know if I'm right or not, but:
could be that one of the cores is damaged and the system tries to switch some tasks to the damaged core (if android handles different cores the way I think) and that core doesnt really work the way it should, causing the entire system to work like a granny?
Pawelss said:
well I tried it out, the rom is nice and all, but my phone is extremely slow, the lag issue with phone calls is back, sometimes turning the screen off is impossible, or takes up to 2 minutes (!). turning it back on isnt much better either, I dont know what the problem is, the same thing happened on the BeanStalk ROM so I assume it isnt a software issue, but a hardware one, do you have any ideas what could be the problem and how can I solve it?
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This is probably some wake/lock problem with software. Also on my o2x i've noticed strange lag when i press the power key it has lag until the screen comes on buttons below the screen light and after a couple of seconds the screen. It has 4.3 CM rom there if your father is using this phone i would suggest you some stock based rom with custom kernel. They should not have problems like these.
tuncay_93 said:
This is probably some wake/lock problem with software. Also on my o2x i've noticed strange lag when i press the power key it has lag until the screen comes on buttons below the screen light and after a couple of seconds the screen. It has 4.3 CM rom there if your father is using this phone i would suggest you some stock based rom with custom kernel. They should not have problems like these.
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That still the best sollution for him - optimized kernel with stable ROM. He probably isn't techno freak?
tuncay_93 said:
This is probably some wake/lock problem with software. Also on my o2x i've noticed strange lag when i press the power key it has lag until the screen comes on buttons below the screen light and after a couple of seconds the screen. It has 4.3 CM rom there if your father is using this phone i would suggest you some stock based rom with custom kernel. They should not have problems like these.
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could be, however, it isnt only for the power button, when the screen is off and a call is coming, it needs a few seconds for the screen to turn on, after the call is done, the system is all choppy and laggy. Turning the screen off after that is also nearly impossible, due to power button malfunction. I went back to stock for now and I'll see if the lag is gone, if it isnt, then its probably a hardware issue.
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yeah, I'm on stock 4.1.2 and the issue isnt gone.
crap.
sounds like a problem in the timing the processor uses for scaling frequencies...
hav no idea what could be causing it unless you have some kernel tweak app and set wrong values
Have you tried clean flashing the Roms you installed? Have you Factory-Reset, Cleared cache, cleared Dalvik cache, and maybe did a system partition format before flashing?
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