With all the different versions of Gingerbread, what version do you think should be used and referred to as "stock"? Would it be different for 2.3.3 and 2.3.4? I9000 firmware or I897? Before anyone says anything about bootloaders, they would be removed (although it never seemed to bother anyone with JF6 one click). Please, speak up.
1100 posts and you don't know better than to not post this crap in Dev? Taking clueless to a new level.
I needed the opinion of the people actually going to use it. Thats why I put [Developers] in the title.
Mods feel free to move if you feel it necessary.
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Thoughtful bump
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Stock refers to the software that your phone came with. So stock doesn't mean the same to everyone.
So stock doesn't mean the same to everyone
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I agree. This is what it means to me.
I guess for 2.3.3 you could say the new KF1 could be considered the stock version since its the actual version from Samsung, not a ported version from the i9000. Is this what you are looking for?
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I guess for 2.3.3 you could say the new KF1 could be considered the stock version since its the actual version from Samsung, not a ported version from the i9000. Is this what you are looking for?
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I would not consider that stock unless it came preloaded on your phone. Ihave had issues where I had to return to full stock 2.1 to fix it. Also can't consider it stock till/if att releases it. As it may still change.
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I've been hesitant to try my hand at flashing ROMs because I'm in Australia using an AT&T variant N1, my carrier uses 850Mhz as the 3G frequency (Telstra) which is same as AT&T.
I've read up on the general flashing instructions for cyanogen and feel comfortable to proceed (I have basic linux knowledge as well), but only sticking point is I'm a bit unclear as to whether there is any difference for me, being the 850 variant.
My best guess is that its the same process, same files/build etc., just don't flash the radio? Is that correct? Can someone whose done it on AT&T variant confirm? THat would be really really good
I'm going to follow the instructions here, on a side note, is amon or clockwork the better option?
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Nexus_One:_Full_Update_Guide
There is absolutely no difference for you.
Radio frequencies aren't dependent on baseband (radio) build, they're a function of HW. You can flash everything, radios included.
Read the Wiki.
Yep, go right ahead and do whatever you want.
I've hacked mine to hell and back with no issues
ROMs, no, no difference. Basebands and radios are a bit of a different story, though...
MaximReapage said:
ROMs, no, no difference. Basebands and radios are a bit of a different story, though...
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They aren't in Nexus, and they are exactly the same thing generally. Baseband = radio = SW that runs on baseband CPU.
OK thanks all
do I NEED to flash the radio i.e. can I get away with not updating the radio component? Just super cautious as I don't want to be in the hunt for a replacement in case of bricking, with all the dual cores just round the corner as wlel
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They aren't in Nexus, and they are exactly the same thing generally. Baseband = radio = SW that runs on baseband CPU.
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Good to know, I'll keep that in mind.
wintermute000 said:
do I NEED to flash the radio i.e. can I get away with not updating the radio component? Just super cautious as I don't want to be in the hunt for a replacement in case of bricking, with all the dual cores just round the corner as wlel
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If your radio is 4.06 or above, you don't need to flash it. If not - you do.
I'm on an att n1 on rogers and I've flashed everything from roms to radios and never had a problem that a lil nandroid couldn't fix.
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just don't flash the korean radio..
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ChongoDroid said:
and never had a problem that a lil nandroid couldn't fix.
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nandroid ROCKS! big time.
saved my hd2 twice
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shreyas1122 said:
just don't flash the korean radio..
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Korean radio is fine. 5.08 was present on all the current Nexus One replacement phones, and 5.12 is present on Vodafone ones.
Any specific reason why you're avoiding it?
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Korean radio is fine.
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oh no! really?
some one told me not to since it's korean..?
I mean why the 'korean' in it's name otherwise?
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It's called the Korean one because it first came about in a KT OTA. It's fine to use on any N1.
You don't have to worry at all about flashing radios. All the frequencies work with all radios. Note that you need at least 5.08 radio on cyanogen to be able to use the 720p video camera.
Cool I better read up on nanddroid then!!!!
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Cool I better read up on nanddroid then!!!!
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Thats the spirit, nandroid is the best diagnostic tool ever... The ability to fix virtually any problem without a pc is one of my number one reasons I love android
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2.3 out doh
Gah unfortunately now wiser to wait for stock 2.3 OTA then Cyanogen to stabilise.... though having said that at least now I've got the answer to my original question, thanks again all.
Might just get me over the hump until I can get a non bootloader locked, non motoblur polluted dual core droid.
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Gah unfortunately now wiser to wait for stock 2.3 OTA then Cyanogen to stabilise.... though having said that at least now I've got the answer to my original question, thanks again all.
Might just get me over the hump until I can get a non bootloader locked, non motoblur polluted dual core droid.
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Cm/ dev community are usually faster then the ota... Except for those who get it first
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True, i meant might as well see how OTA performs before taking the plunge, since my phone is currently stock standard
Hey.
Yesterday I upgraded to 2.2 froyo and then rooted it. I was looking around and began to be interested in modding/themeing my phone. But, i'm unsure if I need to be on a custom rom or if being on the official rom is fine to use.
Thanks
Please Help Me!
I am currently running Firmware 2.2 Baseband Version UCJI6 Kernel 2.6.32.9 [email protected]#1 Build FROYO.UCJI6. I updated to that with odin3 so my phone hasnt been rooted either. Obviously I want to upgrade my phone to a more recent version of 2.2 but am not sure how to go about it. I tried to update the kb1 that was just released but kies mini will not read my phone. Can anyone please help me. Id really appreciate it. Thanks!
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Hey.
Yesterday I upgraded to 2.2 froyo and then rooted it. I was looking around and began to be interested in modding/themeing my phone. But, i'm unsure if I need to be on a custom rom or if being on the official rom is fine to use.
Thanks
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For modding you want an unthemed rom for themeing it doesnt matter.
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I am currently running Firmware 2.2 Baseband Version UCJI6 Kernel 2.6.32.9 [email protected]#1 Build FROYO.UCJI6. I updated to that with odin3 so my phone hasnt been rooted either. Obviously I want to upgrade my phone to a more recent version of 2.2 but am not sure how to go about it. I tried to update the kb1 that was just released but kies mini will not read my phone. Can anyone please help me. Id really appreciate it. Thanks!
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What on gods green earth does this have to do with the original posters question.
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For modding you want an unthemed rom for themeing it doesnt matter.
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Alright, sweet. I'll probably just stick with theming then. I'm pretty satisfied with official froyo, so i don't really want to go through the hassle of flashing a custom rom onto my phone just for a mod.
And i'm just gonna ignore the other guy's comment, lol.
whiteguypl said:
For modding you want an unthemed rom for themeing it doesnt matter.
What on gods green earth does this have to do with the original posters question.
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He probably saw this post first and posted the question because he is new lol. He posted a thread later after he realized.
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Dupontrocks11 said:
He probably saw this post first and posted the question because he is new lol. He posted a thread later after he realized.
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Lol probably.
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Hi, i was wondering, if my phone is running andoid version 2.1, is it possible to directly update to version 2.3.3 using the link and method below or do i have to update to another android version before going to 2.3.3?
Code:
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/02/24/how-to-manually-update-your-nexus-one-to-android-2-3-3/
Thanks in advance
If you're still on 2.1 you probably have a carrier specific ROM, in which case you have the same answer you got the last time you asked:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074089
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If you're still on 2.1 you probably have a carrier specific ROM, in which case you have the same answer you got the last time you asked:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074089
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good answer unfortunately i don't think he'll give those answers a go!
danger-rat said:
If you're still on 2.1 you probably have a carrier specific ROM, in which case you have the same answer you got the last time you asked:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074089
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Thanks for leading me back to my answer, I'm new and didn't really know all the roms and versions types, but finally figured it out.
Thanks.
Alright, I am just trying to find out where to start. Like what's the difference in bootloaders, roms, etc. Is a ROM a Kernal? Stuff like that.
I want to basically like take this Captivate back to stock and start from there, problem is, I have no idea how to get there.
On bootup it currently has the Galaxy S screen with a Cyanogenmod so I guessing it is running that.
Pertinent info:
Model: SGH-I897 - AT&T
Android Version: 4.0.1
Kernal: 2.6.35.14-g76142d0
Mod Version: IceCreamHackish-11282011-Captivate
Build Number: ITL41D
Baseband Version: I9000UGJK4 - This doesn't seem right to me (think there might be a problem with the SIM board but not sure)
Recovery/Download Mode brings up CWM-based Recovery v5.5.0.2
Any help/guidance would be appreciated.
A ROM is basically all the things that you see on screen that's part of the system, i.e. the user interface and menus and such. The kernel is essentially the software interface to the hardware, and controls the core OS functions. A ROM is going to come with a kernel because nothing can work without one, however they are not the same thing. Nothing is wrong with your baseband, as being on a CM based ROM requires an i9000 modem in order to work properly.
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A ROM is basically all the things that you see on screen that's part of the system, i.e. the user interface and menus and such. The kernel is essentially the software interface to the hardware, and controls the core OS functions. A ROM is going to come with a kernel because nothing can work without one, however they are not the same thing. Nothing is wrong with your baseband, as being on a CM based ROM requires an i9000 modem in order to work properly.
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I didn't think these had i9000 modems. :/
They use i9000 based Kernels because they're ported from the i9000 itself.
^if that statement is wrong someone correct me, I'm merely stupid to some things
That being said, anyone that can help me get this thing back to the original software?
Read all the stickies on how to use ODIN, download mode, CWM and what a JIG is. Using ODIN can make your captivate a brick so I suggest you read alot and understand it.
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Read all the stickies on how to use ODIN, download mode, CWM and what a JIG is. Using ODIN can make your captivate a brick so I suggest you read alot and understand it.
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I have Odin, I know about download mode and the jig as well. I have read the stickies, the problem is that most of them are not very thorough. I am kinda stuck at what I can/can't put on the phone. What is the difference between the Rogers Stocks that are available? Will they work on my phone? Questions like that are the ones that I kinda need help with that I cannot find answers for.
Why do you want to go to Rogers stock if you are on AT&T?
sthodupunuri said:
Why do you want to go to Rogers stock if you are on AT&T?
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No where in the ROMs section after looking do I see a [STOCK] AT&T post
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No where in the ROMs section after looking do I see a [STOCK] AT&T post
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hmmmmm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300843
as i recall, the AT&T captivate is called the I897 and the rogers captivate is the I896.....
i wonder if all those I897's in front of the rom version would indicate they are stock for AT&T?
oh crap, look at that...post number 4 takes you to just the rogers ones...
Pirateghost said:
hmmmmm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300843
as i recall, the AT&T captivate is called the I897 and the rogers captivate is the I896.....
i wonder if all those I897's in front of the rom version would indicate they are stock for AT&T?
oh crap, look at that...post number 4 takes you to just the rogers ones...
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Sarcasm how nice. I wasn't looking for Rogers in particular but if you are going to be picky, I would rather not assume that just because someone put i897 infront of it that it is 100% for AT&T. If you choose to do so, that's your perrogative.
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Sarcasm how nice. I wasn't looking for Rogers in particular but if you are going to be picky, I would rather not assume that just because someone put i897 infront of it that it is 100% for AT&T. If you choose to do so, that's your perrogative.
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Yeah you can't trust those jerks that post up the stock roms. Stupid model numbers.
If I choose to do so? Lmao. OK. Why don't you just go download the stuff yourself and see? Lazy people these days looking for.handouts I see. I didn't just assume, I have actually used them. Funny enough so have lots of others in the threads. But nope don't take their words for it they are probably lying just so you would do something stupid.
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i'm a total noob at SGS and Android.
can anyone tell me what things i need to do to use most of my SGS?
and also tell me about rooting and updating the Android OS, do i always have to do the rooting process everytime i update my Android OS?
i just totally need someone who can guide me from the very start.
EDIT:
Model Number: GT-I9003
Baseband version: I9003JXKP3
Kernel version: 2.6.35.7-CL694758
[email protected] #1
Build Number: GINGERBREAD.JPKPA
i can't seem to find any kernel that is suited for my phone in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225879
does this mean i can't root or install custom ROM's?
I suggest you start by reading this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939752 and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596
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Yeah there are many threads to read from. I suggest trying either DarkyRom 10.4.2 or CyanogenMod 7.1
ICS isn't really noob friendly atm.
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what do i do first then?
install the ROM or upgrade first to the latest firmware available for my phone?
aeon44 said:
what do i do first then?
install the ROM or upgrade first to the latest firmware available for my phone?
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Which Firmware do you use ?
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Xevez said:
Which Firmware do you use ?
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i still don't have my phone.
but i know that it is SGS.
i'll have it by this weekend.
so please come back to this thread this weekend.
so i can post what firmware it has.
aeon44 said:
i still don't have my phone.
but i know that it is SGS.
i'll have it by this weekend.
so please come back to this thread this weekend.
so i can post what firmware it has.
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read the links that gcuchiha suggested untill you get your phone
Stay on the stock firmware
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Stay on the stock firmware
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give me a good reason why i should stay with a stock firmware?
what about those Custom ROMs?
some of them are very interesting to try.
i might even re-partition my SGS, so i can learn how to update, root, and install ROM's myself.
i'm not even sure if my phone already has a MOD in it or if its already rooted, i still don't have it now. but i'll have it this weekend.
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Stay on the stock firmware
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+1
Each ROM is customised differently with different features. Basically stay stock if you do not know what features you want.
DO NOT flash a any ROM until you have backed up your EFS folder (google hint = IMEI).
If you ask what is your EFS folder you are not ready for a non stock ROM.
On most proper instructions for flashing a rom, EFS backup step is compulsory.
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If you really need a reason to stay on stock:
1. You need to get used to the phone.
2. You never flashed SGS until now.
3. You have not read anything the other forum colleagues gave you.
4. You did not even tried to search the forums before posting this.
5. You might brick the device and then get back here and complain.
Need more? Sorry, but before posting you, and others that want everything on a plate, should use search and read everything posted here.
The "Galaxy S I9000 General" section clearly says: Discussion about the Samsung Galaxy S I9000 (tips & tricks, etc)
Every custom rom has a "How To" section in the OP. Also, every rom has a "What to do in case of" section. So you can try it on your own. There were cases in which the owner hardbricked the device in the first 45 minutes after he received it. So be careful.
i don't know what EFS even mean.
i'm just lazy to read all of it and there's not much i can understand.
so maybe you're all right that i stay with the stock firmware.
my phone still hasn't arrived, i'll just post here again what firmware it has and how should i update it.
btw, one more thing, so custom ROM's acts like a customized Android firmware, is that right?
and thanks for everyone who replies here and gives me their advices.
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i don't know what EFS even mean.
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good reason to not Flash a Custom Rom
aeon44 said:
i'm just lazy to read all of it and there's not much i can understand.
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Lazy will = soft bricked or worse Hard bricked phone
aeon44 said:
so maybe you're all right that i stay with the stock firmware.
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Based on your above statement about being lazy i would agree
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i'll just post here again what firmware it has and how should i update it.
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dare i say it and get flamed you should use Samsung Kies to get the latest Firmware available for your handset. If Kies says no newer updates available and you want a newer ROM you will have to get un-lazy and READ
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so custom ROM's acts like a customized Android firmware, is that right?
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Yes
Lexrsk said:
good reason to not Flash a Custom Rom
Lazy will = soft bricked or worse Hard bricked phone
Based on your above statement about being lazy i would agree
dare i say it and get flamed you should use Samsung Kies to get the latest Firmware available for your handset. If Kies says no newer updates available and you want a newer ROM you will have to get un-lazy and READ
Yes
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lol.
nice, you really chopped off my post to reply to every single one of them.
keep that up.
Samsung Kies are the official firmwares?
will Android 4 (ICS) ever come to SGS(1)?
btw, what happens if i didn't backed up my EFS?
aeon44 said:
Samsung Kies are the official firmwares?
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Samsung Kies will provide the official Samsung or carrier branded Firmware/ROM for your handset
aeon44 said:
will Android 4 (ICS) ever come to SGS(1)?
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This has been covered on many threads/forums. Samsungs stance is that the hardware in the SGS 1 can not run with Touchwiz on top of ICS
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btw, what happens if i didn't backed up my EFS?
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Again many this has been covered on many threads relating to flashing ICS ROMS in particular. Flashing can result in the IMEI number being over written Your IMEI is stored encripted in a file contained in the EFS folder (IMEI = unique number that identifies your handset on the mobile networks) and then not being able to make or recieve phone calls in extreme examples to random apps downloading from google play or not able to access google play at all.
For more info on this i strongly suggest that you google "backing up EFS folder" and "backing up IMEI"
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Lexrsk said:
Samsung Kies will provide the official Samsung or carrier branded Firmware/ROM for your handset
This has been covered on many threads/forums. Samsungs stance is that the hardware in the SGS 1 can not run with Touchwiz on top of ICS
Again many this has been covered on many threads relating to flashing ICS ROMS in particular. Flashing can result in the IMEI number being over written Your IMEI is stored encripted in a file contained in the EFS folder (IMEI = unique number that identifies your handset on the mobile networks) and then not being able to make or recieve phone calls in extreme examples to random apps downloading from google play or not able to access google play at all.
For more info on this i strongly suggest that you google "backing up EFS folder" and "backing up IMEI"
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but there's a custom ROM that has been leaked that looks like Android 4 (ICS).
will there be a Android 2.4?
i never knew that Android needs a lot of work compared to iOS where it just needs to be jailbreak for you to have the freebies and to be open source.
Iphones run on a common HARDWARE
Android have many different versions of hardware ie Samsung, HTC etc etc etc
Each android phone requires the base code of Android to be customised with device specific drivers etc hence the difference between Android and Iphones.
Your wording is exactly that "CUSTOM" meaning not a Samsung ROM.
As stated before Samsungs stance with the SGS 1 is that they will not release ICS for the handset as there is not enough available RAM (memory) for ICS and their Touchwiz apps
i think i want to install a ROM if i get my Galaxy S by tomorrow.
which one is much better?
CyanogenMOD or DarkyROM?
is this link below the instructions on how to root my phone?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7152078&postcount=2
should i root my phone first?
or should i already go with the install of CyanogenMOD or DarkyROM?
how do i even know if my phone has already been rooted?
I updated the 1st post with more details.
i have my phone, its model is SGS I9003.
too bad Lexrsk can't help me further but i hope someone can guide me in rooting my phone.
please look the updated details on the 1st post.
can i even do the rooting on my phone?