I've been hesitant to try my hand at flashing ROMs because I'm in Australia using an AT&T variant N1, my carrier uses 850Mhz as the 3G frequency (Telstra) which is same as AT&T.
I've read up on the general flashing instructions for cyanogen and feel comfortable to proceed (I have basic linux knowledge as well), but only sticking point is I'm a bit unclear as to whether there is any difference for me, being the 850 variant.
My best guess is that its the same process, same files/build etc., just don't flash the radio? Is that correct? Can someone whose done it on AT&T variant confirm? THat would be really really good
I'm going to follow the instructions here, on a side note, is amon or clockwork the better option?
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Nexus_One:_Full_Update_Guide
There is absolutely no difference for you.
Radio frequencies aren't dependent on baseband (radio) build, they're a function of HW. You can flash everything, radios included.
Read the Wiki.
Yep, go right ahead and do whatever you want.
I've hacked mine to hell and back with no issues
ROMs, no, no difference. Basebands and radios are a bit of a different story, though...
MaximReapage said:
ROMs, no, no difference. Basebands and radios are a bit of a different story, though...
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They aren't in Nexus, and they are exactly the same thing generally. Baseband = radio = SW that runs on baseband CPU.
OK thanks all
do I NEED to flash the radio i.e. can I get away with not updating the radio component? Just super cautious as I don't want to be in the hunt for a replacement in case of bricking, with all the dual cores just round the corner as wlel
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They aren't in Nexus, and they are exactly the same thing generally. Baseband = radio = SW that runs on baseband CPU.
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Good to know, I'll keep that in mind.
wintermute000 said:
do I NEED to flash the radio i.e. can I get away with not updating the radio component? Just super cautious as I don't want to be in the hunt for a replacement in case of bricking, with all the dual cores just round the corner as wlel
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If your radio is 4.06 or above, you don't need to flash it. If not - you do.
I'm on an att n1 on rogers and I've flashed everything from roms to radios and never had a problem that a lil nandroid couldn't fix.
Sent from my Google Phone
just don't flash the korean radio..
btw:
ChongoDroid said:
and never had a problem that a lil nandroid couldn't fix.
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nandroid ROCKS! big time.
saved my hd2 twice
Sent from my Nexus One
shreyas1122 said:
just don't flash the korean radio..
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Korean radio is fine. 5.08 was present on all the current Nexus One replacement phones, and 5.12 is present on Vodafone ones.
Any specific reason why you're avoiding it?
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Korean radio is fine.
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oh no! really?
some one told me not to since it's korean..?
I mean why the 'korean' in it's name otherwise?
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It's called the Korean one because it first came about in a KT OTA. It's fine to use on any N1.
You don't have to worry at all about flashing radios. All the frequencies work with all radios. Note that you need at least 5.08 radio on cyanogen to be able to use the 720p video camera.
Cool I better read up on nanddroid then!!!!
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Cool I better read up on nanddroid then!!!!
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Thats the spirit, nandroid is the best diagnostic tool ever... The ability to fix virtually any problem without a pc is one of my number one reasons I love android
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2.3 out doh
Gah unfortunately now wiser to wait for stock 2.3 OTA then Cyanogen to stabilise.... though having said that at least now I've got the answer to my original question, thanks again all.
Might just get me over the hump until I can get a non bootloader locked, non motoblur polluted dual core droid.
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Gah unfortunately now wiser to wait for stock 2.3 OTA then Cyanogen to stabilise.... though having said that at least now I've got the answer to my original question, thanks again all.
Might just get me over the hump until I can get a non bootloader locked, non motoblur polluted dual core droid.
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Cm/ dev community are usually faster then the ota... Except for those who get it first
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True, i meant might as well see how OTA performs before taking the plunge, since my phone is currently stock standard
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Not Sure Which One I Have. I Think So Far i have counted 3 Different Radios. Does anyone know which one is the latest/stable radio and also where to get it? I Tried searching but didnt find it.
Thanks.
ERE 72 is the stock one that came with phone.
ERE 27 is the update 1
ERE 36B is the new Leaked version!!
hope this helped
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ERE 72 is the stock one that came with phone.
ERE 27 is the update 1
ERE 36B is the new Leaked version!!
hope this helped
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thanks. is the ERE 36B Any better? also is it compatible with any roms yet?
jdubdieslo said:
thanks. is the ERE 36B Any better? also is it compatible with any roms yet?
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CM 5.0.2 (I don't recall when the change happened over to 36B but I know for a fact that 5.0.2 was based on it as I just moved from that to 5.0.4.1) was based on 36B. So all roms following until a newer software update happens...
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thanks. is the ERE 36B Any better? also is it compatible with any roms yet?
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The jury's still out on whether it's better. I haven't heard definitive evidence that it's better with 3G or anything, and I assume there's a reason it hasn't been released OTA yet, so I'm sticking with ERE27.
Noob question but what's this radio being discussed?
I mean is it for music radio or for signal reception and how do I upgrade mine on my stock N1?
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Noob question but what's this radio being discussed?
I mean is it for music radio or for signal reception and how do I upgrade mine on my stock N1?
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The radio is for network connectivity..or as you put it "signal reception". If you got the OTA update to 2.1-update1, then you have the latest "official" Radio. I wouldn't bother flashing the unreleased version as there's zero benefit and, as I said earlier, there's probably a reason why HTC/Google didn't release it OTA.
Also, since you're admittedly a noob... I would make sure you research a lot about flashing Radio's prior to even starting the process. A guy just bricked his phone trying to flash to the unreleased Radio because he was in your position..don't be stupid.
I respect uansari1 but on this point I've got to chime in.
I've been running the stock ROM, flashed the OTA ERE27 update and had worse performance from my radio and data connection. More times then not I found the N1 sitting in Edge and even GPRS mode.
So.... I unlocked the bootloader (voiding my warranty), loaded RA's recovery image, ran nandriod and did a backup, rooted the phone and loaded the new radio rom. Post #21 found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=632282&page=3
Since then I've noticed the phone staying in 3G way more than before and even better battery performance.
Still using the stock ROM.
As with any flashing READ READ READ and understand what's happening before you decide to jump into the deep end.....
duplicate post - my bad. Removed.
With all the different versions of Gingerbread, what version do you think should be used and referred to as "stock"? Would it be different for 2.3.3 and 2.3.4? I9000 firmware or I897? Before anyone says anything about bootloaders, they would be removed (although it never seemed to bother anyone with JF6 one click). Please, speak up.
1100 posts and you don't know better than to not post this crap in Dev? Taking clueless to a new level.
I needed the opinion of the people actually going to use it. Thats why I put [Developers] in the title.
Mods feel free to move if you feel it necessary.
Thoughtful bump
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Thoughtful bump
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Stock refers to the software that your phone came with. So stock doesn't mean the same to everyone.
So stock doesn't mean the same to everyone
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I agree. This is what it means to me.
I guess for 2.3.3 you could say the new KF1 could be considered the stock version since its the actual version from Samsung, not a ported version from the i9000. Is this what you are looking for?
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I guess for 2.3.3 you could say the new KF1 could be considered the stock version since its the actual version from Samsung, not a ported version from the i9000. Is this what you are looking for?
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I would not consider that stock unless it came preloaded on your phone. Ihave had issues where I had to return to full stock 2.1 to fix it. Also can't consider it stock till/if att releases it. As it may still change.
Alright, I am just trying to find out where to start. Like what's the difference in bootloaders, roms, etc. Is a ROM a Kernal? Stuff like that.
I want to basically like take this Captivate back to stock and start from there, problem is, I have no idea how to get there.
On bootup it currently has the Galaxy S screen with a Cyanogenmod so I guessing it is running that.
Pertinent info:
Model: SGH-I897 - AT&T
Android Version: 4.0.1
Kernal: 2.6.35.14-g76142d0
Mod Version: IceCreamHackish-11282011-Captivate
Build Number: ITL41D
Baseband Version: I9000UGJK4 - This doesn't seem right to me (think there might be a problem with the SIM board but not sure)
Recovery/Download Mode brings up CWM-based Recovery v5.5.0.2
Any help/guidance would be appreciated.
A ROM is basically all the things that you see on screen that's part of the system, i.e. the user interface and menus and such. The kernel is essentially the software interface to the hardware, and controls the core OS functions. A ROM is going to come with a kernel because nothing can work without one, however they are not the same thing. Nothing is wrong with your baseband, as being on a CM based ROM requires an i9000 modem in order to work properly.
Sent from my CM9 ICS i897 Captivate
korockinout13 said:
A ROM is basically all the things that you see on screen that's part of the system, i.e. the user interface and menus and such. The kernel is essentially the software interface to the hardware, and controls the core OS functions. A ROM is going to come with a kernel because nothing can work without one, however they are not the same thing. Nothing is wrong with your baseband, as being on a CM based ROM requires an i9000 modem in order to work properly.
Sent from my CM9 ICS i897 Captivate
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I didn't think these had i9000 modems. :/
They use i9000 based Kernels because they're ported from the i9000 itself.
^if that statement is wrong someone correct me, I'm merely stupid to some things
That being said, anyone that can help me get this thing back to the original software?
Read all the stickies on how to use ODIN, download mode, CWM and what a JIG is. Using ODIN can make your captivate a brick so I suggest you read alot and understand it.
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Read all the stickies on how to use ODIN, download mode, CWM and what a JIG is. Using ODIN can make your captivate a brick so I suggest you read alot and understand it.
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I have Odin, I know about download mode and the jig as well. I have read the stickies, the problem is that most of them are not very thorough. I am kinda stuck at what I can/can't put on the phone. What is the difference between the Rogers Stocks that are available? Will they work on my phone? Questions like that are the ones that I kinda need help with that I cannot find answers for.
Why do you want to go to Rogers stock if you are on AT&T?
sthodupunuri said:
Why do you want to go to Rogers stock if you are on AT&T?
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No where in the ROMs section after looking do I see a [STOCK] AT&T post
onlymojo said:
No where in the ROMs section after looking do I see a [STOCK] AT&T post
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hmmmmm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300843
as i recall, the AT&T captivate is called the I897 and the rogers captivate is the I896.....
i wonder if all those I897's in front of the rom version would indicate they are stock for AT&T?
oh crap, look at that...post number 4 takes you to just the rogers ones...
Pirateghost said:
hmmmmm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300843
as i recall, the AT&T captivate is called the I897 and the rogers captivate is the I896.....
i wonder if all those I897's in front of the rom version would indicate they are stock for AT&T?
oh crap, look at that...post number 4 takes you to just the rogers ones...
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Sarcasm how nice. I wasn't looking for Rogers in particular but if you are going to be picky, I would rather not assume that just because someone put i897 infront of it that it is 100% for AT&T. If you choose to do so, that's your perrogative.
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Sarcasm how nice. I wasn't looking for Rogers in particular but if you are going to be picky, I would rather not assume that just because someone put i897 infront of it that it is 100% for AT&T. If you choose to do so, that's your perrogative.
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Yeah you can't trust those jerks that post up the stock roms. Stupid model numbers.
If I choose to do so? Lmao. OK. Why don't you just go download the stuff yourself and see? Lazy people these days looking for.handouts I see. I didn't just assume, I have actually used them. Funny enough so have lots of others in the threads. But nope don't take their words for it they are probably lying just so you would do something stupid.
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Hello Fellow HTC IncS Users,
I have a Query and a couple of "sub" queries at that.
I am a total noob when it comes to flashing custom RADIOS, so i was wondering if somebody could help me and give me a step-by-step guide on how to do so. Also,
- Can you tell me the benefits/disadvantages of flashing a custom radio?
- Can you tell me what radio to flash for the Stock ICS Rom :angel: ? (Android 4.0.4 + Sense 3.6 WWE) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1773520)
- Please do not remind me of the risks involved. (I will not hold you responsible for a bricked device, however do reply with some knowledge.)
Thanks in Advance, and also, does Custom Radios unlock my network? (Can I be GSM Free)?
Thank You,
Piccilino
You might find this helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466228
With radios, generally I like to flash the latest and forget about it. There is not much of a difference with different radios, they impact greatly on battery life, performance, reception, data speed etc
You need to be S-Off
Latest radio in my sig, uploaded by nonverbose
Simply place zip on root of sdcard and boot into bootloader, it will get autodetected and you will be prompted for confirmation after a few seconds. Delete the zip after installation
Hey,
Thanks for the advice, but what radio should I flash? Also, what is the ratio of bricking my phone?
Sent from my HTC Incredible S
Oh thanks, but is this safe?
Sent from my HTC Incredible S
Also, for some reason I cannot visit d-host. Can u post a mirror? Much appreciated. And does installing a custom radio wipe my phone?
Sent from my HTC Incredible S
Piccilino said:
Also, for some reason I cannot visit d-host. Can u post a mirror? Much appreciated. And does installing a custom radio wipe my phone?
Sent from my HTC Incredible S
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Dev host is down
Just wait for it, I'd rather download a trusted one than a dodgy one because the chance of bricking with a wrong radio is high.
Sent from my Nexus 7
So are u saying that nonverbose's radio is dodgy? If it is, which one do u suggest?
Sent from my HTC Incredible S
YAY!
Thanks to nonverbose for giving me the radio.. Worked like a charm
I just want to know, (Because I do not have another sim)
Does this network unlock??
THANKS SO MUCH!
Piccilino
No
So what radio does? I read somewhere that radios can potentially network unlock.
Piccilino said:
So what radio does? I read somewhere that radios can potentially network unlock.
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Not sure where you read that or got that idea, but that is not the case with the IncS.
Well i thought because you know, it controls all the outgoing calls etc. Just some common sense.
This is not true though...
Anyway, can u guys tell me what are EVERY SINGLE benefit/disadvantage of flashing a radio? I flashed the one that eRadicant suggested, and it works good..
(By working good i mean that it did not brick my device )
Ty.
Piccilino said:
Well i thought because you know, it controls all the outgoing calls etc. Just some common sense.
This is not true though...
Anyway, can u guys tell me what are EVERY SINGLE benefit/disadvantage of flashing a radio? I flashed the one that eRadicant suggested, and it works good..
(By working good i mean that it did not brick my device )
Ty.
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With a good radio for your phone/region/carrier:
Better reception
Sometimes call quality
better battery
And vice versa for disadvantages when using a bad radio
Since you're in Melbourne and on Optus, I recommmend either the .11M radio from the virtuous leak/official ruu or the .28M one from the optus ICS OTA
markj338 said:
With a good radio for your phone/region/carrier:
Better reception
Sometimes call quality
better battery
And vice versa for disadvantages when using a bad radio
Since you're in Melbourne and on Optus, I recommmend either the .11M radio from the virtuous leak/official ruu or the .28M one from the optus ICS OTA
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Yea i got the ics one and then changed to the .11m one. I realised that my wifi/bluetooth was faster and my reception was better
Hi, I'm gettin me an HTC One from Rogers here in Canada, and I was wondering if the development that's done over in the Android Development Section is going to all be compatible with this version of the phone? I don't see a separate forum so I assume it will be, but I'm asking just to be safe
Thanks!
royoshukrun said:
Hi, I'm gettin me an HTC One from Rogers here in Canada, and I was wondering if the development that's done over in the Android Development Section is going to all be compatible with this version of the phone? I don't see a separate forum so I assume it will be, but I'm asking just to be safe
Thanks!
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You will probably have to change the CCID or the ROMs will not install. That can't be done until S-Off is achieved. (I think it is called CCID - it is the country code inside the firmware, and means you can't flash a ROM not designed for your country). At least this is how the Amaze works, and I think other HTC devices.
So the ROM itself would need to be made for that country's device? Why isn't there a forum for the canadian HTC Ones then yet?
royoshukrun said:
So the ROM itself would need to be made for that country's device? Why isn't there a forum for the canadian HTC Ones then yet?
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That is my understanding. Until someone achieves S-Off.
As to different Forums, XDA tends to just use different threads for the various services, not forums.
Changing CID is for bootloader unlocking via HTC's website. It's the US phones that need to be changed usually.
Roms don't care what your cid is.
There will be seperate forums if the phone has different hardware under the same name. I am pretty sure the One is the same hardware regardless of carrier and should only have one forum.
Sent from the HOXL dimension of S-OFF
c5satellite2 said:
Changing CID is for bootloader unlocking via HTC's website. It's the US phones that need to be changed usually.
Roms don't care what your cid is.
There will be seperate forums if the phone has different hardware under the same name. I am pretty sure the One is the same hardware regardless of carrier and should only have one forum.
Sent from the HOXL dimension of S-OFF
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The hardware is the same, so you're saying that the same root methods and ROMs will work for now, until such a time that S-OFF might be achieved?
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Changing CID is for bootloader unlocking via HTC's website. It's the US phones that need to be changed usually.
Roms don't care what your cid is.
There will be seperate forums if the phone has different hardware under the same name. I am pretty sure the One is the same hardware regardless of carrier and should only have one forum.
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I don't yet have my One, but for the Amaze this is certainly not true. The ones from outside the US will not flash a Rom based on a US carrier unless the cid is fixed. That is what I'm basing my post upon. Maybe the One will be different, maybe not.
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I don't yet have my One, but for the Amaze this is certainly not true. The ones from outside the US will not flash a Rom based on a US carrier unless the cid is fixed. That is what I'm basing my post upon. Maybe the One will be different, maybe not.
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I posted the same question in the TrickDroid ROM thread and the dev said that it should flahs with no problems. Thought I should let you know that's what he thinks.
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I posted the same question in the TrickDroid ROM thread and the dev said that it should flahs with no problems. Thought I should let you know that's what he thinks.
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Well, I hope he is correct, it will be much easier for those outside the country to flash any ROM they want. We will have to see how it goes.
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I posted the same question in the TrickDroid ROM thread and the dev said that it should flahs with no problems. Thought I should let you know that's what he thinks.
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I can't find the thread I saw but there was one over in the general form that said its compatible so long as it does not change the radio. The only variance in these phones is the radio, which is unusual. Most of the time there is another difference that makes roms incompatible.
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I can't find the thread I saw but there was one over in the general form that said its compatible so long as it does not change the radio. The only variance in these phones is the radio, which is unusual. Most of the time there is another difference that makes roms incompatible.
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Then the T-Mobile (and Canada) ROMS would be the issue, since I believe only they have the 1700/1900 radios. They would be specific to that hardware.
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Then the T-Mobile (and Canada) ROMS would be the issue, since I believe only they have the 1700/1900 radios. They would be specific to that hardware.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong ROMs don't flash radios. So long as this remains true it should not be an issue? Also I herd people have ROMs working on the AT&T variant which is what Canada (or at leas the big 3 plus their sub-brands) get.
Edit: Here is what I found saying that we will be able to flash some of these roms, Earlier in the thread it was said that U and UL roms were interchangeable. I'll be trying it out tomorrow afternoon. I'm buying one outright from Bell here in calgary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40441828&postcount=108
I just bought my HTC One from Rogers but I haven't proceeded with anything yet for the same reasons as above. Coming from a One XL (Rogers One X) I know that I was able to use AT&T roms as well as Rogers & Telus roms with my phone, and use any of the radios from all three of those providers without issue.
Seeing as there are currently three separate forums for the HTC One (M7, Sprint & AT&T), I'm not sure which ones are compatible with which carriers. I hope that some of this gets straightened out in the days to come. Of course if there's anything I can do from my end to help, just tell me what to do ^_^
EDIT: Just followed link in above post, and it seems to have cleared it up for me. I still think that the forums for compatible devices should be merged, like the way the One XL forum is.
so we need to stick to the ATT forums?
or, iirc, we can flash the international ROMs so long as the radio doesnt flash lest we lose LTE