Alright, I am just trying to find out where to start. Like what's the difference in bootloaders, roms, etc. Is a ROM a Kernal? Stuff like that.
I want to basically like take this Captivate back to stock and start from there, problem is, I have no idea how to get there.
On bootup it currently has the Galaxy S screen with a Cyanogenmod so I guessing it is running that.
Pertinent info:
Model: SGH-I897 - AT&T
Android Version: 4.0.1
Kernal: 2.6.35.14-g76142d0
Mod Version: IceCreamHackish-11282011-Captivate
Build Number: ITL41D
Baseband Version: I9000UGJK4 - This doesn't seem right to me (think there might be a problem with the SIM board but not sure)
Recovery/Download Mode brings up CWM-based Recovery v5.5.0.2
Any help/guidance would be appreciated.
A ROM is basically all the things that you see on screen that's part of the system, i.e. the user interface and menus and such. The kernel is essentially the software interface to the hardware, and controls the core OS functions. A ROM is going to come with a kernel because nothing can work without one, however they are not the same thing. Nothing is wrong with your baseband, as being on a CM based ROM requires an i9000 modem in order to work properly.
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korockinout13 said:
A ROM is basically all the things that you see on screen that's part of the system, i.e. the user interface and menus and such. The kernel is essentially the software interface to the hardware, and controls the core OS functions. A ROM is going to come with a kernel because nothing can work without one, however they are not the same thing. Nothing is wrong with your baseband, as being on a CM based ROM requires an i9000 modem in order to work properly.
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I didn't think these had i9000 modems. :/
They use i9000 based Kernels because they're ported from the i9000 itself.
^if that statement is wrong someone correct me, I'm merely stupid to some things
That being said, anyone that can help me get this thing back to the original software?
Read all the stickies on how to use ODIN, download mode, CWM and what a JIG is. Using ODIN can make your captivate a brick so I suggest you read alot and understand it.
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Read all the stickies on how to use ODIN, download mode, CWM and what a JIG is. Using ODIN can make your captivate a brick so I suggest you read alot and understand it.
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I have Odin, I know about download mode and the jig as well. I have read the stickies, the problem is that most of them are not very thorough. I am kinda stuck at what I can/can't put on the phone. What is the difference between the Rogers Stocks that are available? Will they work on my phone? Questions like that are the ones that I kinda need help with that I cannot find answers for.
Why do you want to go to Rogers stock if you are on AT&T?
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Why do you want to go to Rogers stock if you are on AT&T?
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No where in the ROMs section after looking do I see a [STOCK] AT&T post
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No where in the ROMs section after looking do I see a [STOCK] AT&T post
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hmmmmm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300843
as i recall, the AT&T captivate is called the I897 and the rogers captivate is the I896.....
i wonder if all those I897's in front of the rom version would indicate they are stock for AT&T?
oh crap, look at that...post number 4 takes you to just the rogers ones...
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hmmmmm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300843
as i recall, the AT&T captivate is called the I897 and the rogers captivate is the I896.....
i wonder if all those I897's in front of the rom version would indicate they are stock for AT&T?
oh crap, look at that...post number 4 takes you to just the rogers ones...
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Sarcasm how nice. I wasn't looking for Rogers in particular but if you are going to be picky, I would rather not assume that just because someone put i897 infront of it that it is 100% for AT&T. If you choose to do so, that's your perrogative.
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Sarcasm how nice. I wasn't looking for Rogers in particular but if you are going to be picky, I would rather not assume that just because someone put i897 infront of it that it is 100% for AT&T. If you choose to do so, that's your perrogative.
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Yeah you can't trust those jerks that post up the stock roms. Stupid model numbers.
If I choose to do so? Lmao. OK. Why don't you just go download the stuff yourself and see? Lazy people these days looking for.handouts I see. I didn't just assume, I have actually used them. Funny enough so have lots of others in the threads. But nope don't take their words for it they are probably lying just so you would do something stupid.
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So...how bad would flashing xxjvk be on my captivate? It changes bootloaders, correct? Definately a brick? Cm7 kernel wont work, correct?
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So...how bad would flashing xxjvk be on my captivate? It changes bootloaders, correct? Definately a brick? Cm7 kernel wont work, correct?
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is that the new gingerbread? dont do that yet, but if you do read old threads about i9000 roms on the captivate, threads from before we had reorient kernels. the button mapping and headphone logic and orientation is all messed up. getting back to download mode is tricky. if you can take the bootloaders out of the .tar file it might help but it also might not boot at all without the proper bootloaders.
if you have to ask you are defiantly not the person to be trying something new like that...
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if you have to ask you are defiantly not the person to be trying something new like that...
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Actually I've flashed everything from I9000 ROMS, to MIUI to CM7, multiple times. It was a simple question of whether or not any new breakthroughs were found pertaining to the I9000 gingerbread. I searched, couldn't find any, wanted to be sure.
yeah but did you flash them when no reorient kernels were available? there is alot of information that has been lost to the newer comunity members because it is rarely relevant anymore.
I've tried a lagfix but wasnt that much improvement..i need something reliable and fast! Please! I know to get rid of bloat etc etc.... I need to know which rom is best? Cognition?? If so, which one? My phone is back to basic superoneclick root w/ non market apps enabled. Havent gone any further this time cause i would like to see what people have to say.... Ive searched and searched but seems like i need it all in one place w/ updated info?? Any help would be greatly appreciated..... Thanks.
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I've tried a lagfix but wasnt that much improvement..i need something reliable and fast! Please! I know to get rid of bloat etc etc.... I need to know which rom is best? Cognition?? If so, which one? My phone is back to basic superoneclick root w/ non market apps enabled. Havent gone any further this time cause i would like to see what people have to say.... Ive searched and searched but seems like i need it all in one place w/ updated info?? Any help would be greatly appreciated..... Thanks.
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Oh boy.... Another one of these threads.
Short answer.... PICK one, they are all better than stock. There are so many roms out there that only YOU can judge what you want and need in a rom.
Everyone will have a different answer for you. For instance I say Firefly, but only because it works for me
You can't go wrong choosing any of them.
+100000000000000
Anything other than JI6, that leaky rom is junk.
Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.
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+100000000000000
Anything other than JI6, that leaky rom is junk.
Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.
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All i got for ya buddy is ur logo aint lyin .. at all!! regret the day i ever switched to att!!
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Oh boy.... Another one of these threads.
Short answer.... PICK one, they are all better than stock. There are so many roms out there that only YOU can judge what you want and need in a rom.
Everyone will have a different answer for you. For instance I say Firefly, but only because it works for me
You can't go wrong choosing any of them.
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well I am looking for suggestions on which rom might be best suited for my phone and my only criteria really is thats its fast and reliable. So basically Im just askin if you had to pick one for me what would it be?
regan0314 said:
well I am looking for suggestions on which rom might be best suited for my phone and my only criteria really is thats its fast and reliable. So basically Im just askin if you had to pick one for me what would it be?
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That is unanswerable every single phone is different, and people have widely different tastes. The trick is finding a rom that works best FOR YOU.
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That is unanswerable every single phone is different, and people have widely different tastes. The trick is finding a rom that works best FOR YOU.
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dude, youre takin this a little too seriously, im just lookin for a good suggestion to start with, and i know every phone is different, thats why i put what phone i have. thanks
LMAO........
The suggestions are to try them out yourself........
They are all better than stock........
You have to figure it out for yourself..........
And he meant that every Captivate is different.......If you did some more reading...you would know what he meant........
The "all in one place" is the first 3 pages of the dev section........http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=706 any thread that starts with [ROM] is what your looking at
if you want a fast rom i would recommend the cyanogen mod 7.
people talk about how its unstable and has bad battery life
but its all wrong,,,
from my experience cm7 has been a stable like all the other roms but just faster..
It's the fastest you'll ever get right now and it has all different customization you can do.
so try it out.
Might want to try cm6 its outdated but fast and more reliable
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ok soooo this is super annoying now...
I have tried every tutorial I can find for flashing roms to my captivate, every one still gives me the write error after reinstall packages. I have tried changing every setting i can think of.... someone please help!! very frustrated at this point
heres all my phone info:
att captivate sgh-I897
android 2.2
kernal: 2.6.32.9 jetaek.le[email protected] #1
build: froyo.UCJI6
as of right now i have it rooted via newest version of superoneclick.
Are you trying to get CWM on the phone?
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Are you trying to get CWM on the phone?
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ya, any file i put on the root of the phone gives me the same answer, whether its cwm or update.zip
You have 3E recovery.
The easiest way to get around it is to Flash the .tar version of speedmod with the full version of odin.
This only works on 2.2 If you need any more help. I will be around for a bit.
nickm50 said:
You have 3E recovery.
The easiest way to get around it is to Flash the .tar version of speedmod with the full version of odin.
This only works on 2.2 If you need any more help. I will be around for a bit.
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good answer! but if you are on 2.1 you can put the new rom on the sd card first and then flash speedmod. it wont boot into the rom but will give you recovery to flash the new rom.
yes, no need to root just odin flash speedmod then flash a rom.
if you want complete and reliable and well polished then flash andromeda, it's a bit older version of 2.2 but the work was great.
if you want super fast flash something that says js8, i hear the paragon rom has a great kernel. id say cm7 but maybe you should work up to that, it isn't hard but you need odin to flash back if you have problems, there aren't any 2.2 kernels or roms with the proper update script and binary to be flashed from the recovery that cm7 uses.
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but if you are on 2.1 you can put the new rom on the sd card first and then flash speedmod. it wont boot into the rom but will give you recovery to flash the new rom.
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Nice. That makes sense that it will work.
OCLF (one click lagfix) use ext2. Titanium or some system app remover app to get rid of bloat and you should be good to go. At the end of the day different ROMs and such are for asthetics... no one has over 340 mg of Ram available so performance not much different from one to the next once lagfix installed. Until you OC/UV and that is tuff to maintain stability with.
Now we all know that there are no "Best Rom" threads but sense this one has changed course ill leave it open.
Each rom runs differently for each person. This is due to the many different ways we each use our phones. Once you get the hang of it, try out a few and find your favorite. Good luck on your quest.
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Ok so i finally got it to work, i used this application for my pc and it did the trick... it was called something like AIC tools?? Forget the name exactly, T work so cant see it right now. But it was awesome, if anyone needs to know what its called lemme know and ill post it when i get home. Im trying cognition 4.3 right now.
Have a small problem tho if anyone can help that be great,
Basically, my home button goes nuts every once in a while and acts as if its bein pressed a bunch of times when my fingers are nowhere near it.... weird... does a ghost come with cognition?? Lol
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regan0314 said:
Ok so i finally got it to work, i used this application for my pc and it did the trick... it was called something like AIC tools?? Forget the name exactly, T work so cant see it right now. But it was awesome, if anyone needs to know what its called lemme know and ill post it when i get home. Im trying cognition 4.3 right now.
Have a small problem tho if anyone can help that be great,
Basically, my home button goes nuts every once in a while and acts as if its bein pressed a bunch of times when my fingers are nowhere near it.... weird... does a ghost come with cognition?? Lol
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Questions pertaining to specific roms should be asked in their thread. Most times you're not the only one that's had that problem and it's already been addressed. That translates into search and read.
Just wondering if I can put Gingerbread on it. I tried Honeycomb, and while it sorta worked, it's really just not ready yet for using as a daily OS.
Thanks,
-av
same question for noob like me...
avwuff said:
Just wondering if I can put Gingerbread on it. I tried Honeycomb, and while it sorta worked, it's really just not ready yet for using as a daily OS.
Thanks,
-av
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No not yet... and dont try it cause it will brick your tab, but always remember if you brick it as long as you can get into download mode you can always unbrick your tab (Sprint) using EA-24.
BTW: Wrong catagory for questions. Use Q&A
Sorry I've been reading this forum all day
Yeah I already bricked it a few times and then brought it back with EA24, which is what I am running now. Is there anything better? I really want those CRT on/off animations and stuff.
I too would love to see a GB rom for us. Probably won't happen though.
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avwuff said:
Sorry I've been reading this forum all day
Yeah I already bricked it a few times and then brought it back with EA24, which is what I am running now. Is there anything better? I really want those CRT on/off animations and stuff.
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Well if you could flash a rom to it -it wasn't "bricked". The term "brick" is used far to loosely now. Its bricked when you cant restore with software and you have to either replace or repair board with jtag etc. What you did was simply screw a flash up so device wouldn't boot a rom.
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I too would love to see a GB rom for us. Probably won't happen though.
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You will but you will likely have to wait for your carrier or Samsung to update you via kies or you flash manually once its released.
PS. You shouldnt be creating topic sin this section, this is for devs/chefs only for posting roms/kernels/ref etc. Stick to Q&A and read sticky topics.
Hey, question: It's a sprint Tab, but I don't use Sprint and I don't care if the cell modem doesn't work at all. Is the rest of the hardware so different that I can't use one of the GSM ones, for example?
-av
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Hey, question: It's a sprint Tab, but I don't use Sprint and I don't care if the cell modem doesn't work at all. Is the rest of the hardware so different that I can't use one of the GSM ones, for example?
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Yes.
Only CDMA Roms
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With all the different versions of Gingerbread, what version do you think should be used and referred to as "stock"? Would it be different for 2.3.3 and 2.3.4? I9000 firmware or I897? Before anyone says anything about bootloaders, they would be removed (although it never seemed to bother anyone with JF6 one click). Please, speak up.
1100 posts and you don't know better than to not post this crap in Dev? Taking clueless to a new level.
I needed the opinion of the people actually going to use it. Thats why I put [Developers] in the title.
Mods feel free to move if you feel it necessary.
Thoughtful bump
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Thoughtful bump
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Stock refers to the software that your phone came with. So stock doesn't mean the same to everyone.
So stock doesn't mean the same to everyone
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I agree. This is what it means to me.
I guess for 2.3.3 you could say the new KF1 could be considered the stock version since its the actual version from Samsung, not a ported version from the i9000. Is this what you are looking for?
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I guess for 2.3.3 you could say the new KF1 could be considered the stock version since its the actual version from Samsung, not a ported version from the i9000. Is this what you are looking for?
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I would not consider that stock unless it came preloaded on your phone. Ihave had issues where I had to return to full stock 2.1 to fix it. Also can't consider it stock till/if att releases it. As it may still change.
i'm a total noob at SGS and Android.
can anyone tell me what things i need to do to use most of my SGS?
and also tell me about rooting and updating the Android OS, do i always have to do the rooting process everytime i update my Android OS?
i just totally need someone who can guide me from the very start.
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Model Number: GT-I9003
Baseband version: I9003JXKP3
Kernel version: 2.6.35.7-CL694758
[email protected] #1
Build Number: GINGERBREAD.JPKPA
i can't seem to find any kernel that is suited for my phone in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225879
does this mean i can't root or install custom ROM's?
I suggest you start by reading this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939752 and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596
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Yeah there are many threads to read from. I suggest trying either DarkyRom 10.4.2 or CyanogenMod 7.1
ICS isn't really noob friendly atm.
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what do i do first then?
install the ROM or upgrade first to the latest firmware available for my phone?
aeon44 said:
what do i do first then?
install the ROM or upgrade first to the latest firmware available for my phone?
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Which Firmware do you use ?
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Which Firmware do you use ?
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i still don't have my phone.
but i know that it is SGS.
i'll have it by this weekend.
so please come back to this thread this weekend.
so i can post what firmware it has.
aeon44 said:
i still don't have my phone.
but i know that it is SGS.
i'll have it by this weekend.
so please come back to this thread this weekend.
so i can post what firmware it has.
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read the links that gcuchiha suggested untill you get your phone
Stay on the stock firmware
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Stay on the stock firmware
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give me a good reason why i should stay with a stock firmware?
what about those Custom ROMs?
some of them are very interesting to try.
i might even re-partition my SGS, so i can learn how to update, root, and install ROM's myself.
i'm not even sure if my phone already has a MOD in it or if its already rooted, i still don't have it now. but i'll have it this weekend.
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+1
Each ROM is customised differently with different features. Basically stay stock if you do not know what features you want.
DO NOT flash a any ROM until you have backed up your EFS folder (google hint = IMEI).
If you ask what is your EFS folder you are not ready for a non stock ROM.
On most proper instructions for flashing a rom, EFS backup step is compulsory.
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If you really need a reason to stay on stock:
1. You need to get used to the phone.
2. You never flashed SGS until now.
3. You have not read anything the other forum colleagues gave you.
4. You did not even tried to search the forums before posting this.
5. You might brick the device and then get back here and complain.
Need more? Sorry, but before posting you, and others that want everything on a plate, should use search and read everything posted here.
The "Galaxy S I9000 General" section clearly says: Discussion about the Samsung Galaxy S I9000 (tips & tricks, etc)
Every custom rom has a "How To" section in the OP. Also, every rom has a "What to do in case of" section. So you can try it on your own. There were cases in which the owner hardbricked the device in the first 45 minutes after he received it. So be careful.
i don't know what EFS even mean.
i'm just lazy to read all of it and there's not much i can understand.
so maybe you're all right that i stay with the stock firmware.
my phone still hasn't arrived, i'll just post here again what firmware it has and how should i update it.
btw, one more thing, so custom ROM's acts like a customized Android firmware, is that right?
and thanks for everyone who replies here and gives me their advices.
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i don't know what EFS even mean.
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good reason to not Flash a Custom Rom
aeon44 said:
i'm just lazy to read all of it and there's not much i can understand.
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Lazy will = soft bricked or worse Hard bricked phone
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so maybe you're all right that i stay with the stock firmware.
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Based on your above statement about being lazy i would agree
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i'll just post here again what firmware it has and how should i update it.
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dare i say it and get flamed you should use Samsung Kies to get the latest Firmware available for your handset. If Kies says no newer updates available and you want a newer ROM you will have to get un-lazy and READ
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so custom ROM's acts like a customized Android firmware, is that right?
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Yes
Lexrsk said:
good reason to not Flash a Custom Rom
Lazy will = soft bricked or worse Hard bricked phone
Based on your above statement about being lazy i would agree
dare i say it and get flamed you should use Samsung Kies to get the latest Firmware available for your handset. If Kies says no newer updates available and you want a newer ROM you will have to get un-lazy and READ
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lol.
nice, you really chopped off my post to reply to every single one of them.
keep that up.
Samsung Kies are the official firmwares?
will Android 4 (ICS) ever come to SGS(1)?
btw, what happens if i didn't backed up my EFS?
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Samsung Kies are the official firmwares?
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Samsung Kies will provide the official Samsung or carrier branded Firmware/ROM for your handset
aeon44 said:
will Android 4 (ICS) ever come to SGS(1)?
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This has been covered on many threads/forums. Samsungs stance is that the hardware in the SGS 1 can not run with Touchwiz on top of ICS
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btw, what happens if i didn't backed up my EFS?
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Again many this has been covered on many threads relating to flashing ICS ROMS in particular. Flashing can result in the IMEI number being over written Your IMEI is stored encripted in a file contained in the EFS folder (IMEI = unique number that identifies your handset on the mobile networks) and then not being able to make or recieve phone calls in extreme examples to random apps downloading from google play or not able to access google play at all.
For more info on this i strongly suggest that you google "backing up EFS folder" and "backing up IMEI"
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Samsung Kies will provide the official Samsung or carrier branded Firmware/ROM for your handset
This has been covered on many threads/forums. Samsungs stance is that the hardware in the SGS 1 can not run with Touchwiz on top of ICS
Again many this has been covered on many threads relating to flashing ICS ROMS in particular. Flashing can result in the IMEI number being over written Your IMEI is stored encripted in a file contained in the EFS folder (IMEI = unique number that identifies your handset on the mobile networks) and then not being able to make or recieve phone calls in extreme examples to random apps downloading from google play or not able to access google play at all.
For more info on this i strongly suggest that you google "backing up EFS folder" and "backing up IMEI"
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but there's a custom ROM that has been leaked that looks like Android 4 (ICS).
will there be a Android 2.4?
i never knew that Android needs a lot of work compared to iOS where it just needs to be jailbreak for you to have the freebies and to be open source.
Iphones run on a common HARDWARE
Android have many different versions of hardware ie Samsung, HTC etc etc etc
Each android phone requires the base code of Android to be customised with device specific drivers etc hence the difference between Android and Iphones.
Your wording is exactly that "CUSTOM" meaning not a Samsung ROM.
As stated before Samsungs stance with the SGS 1 is that they will not release ICS for the handset as there is not enough available RAM (memory) for ICS and their Touchwiz apps
i think i want to install a ROM if i get my Galaxy S by tomorrow.
which one is much better?
CyanogenMOD or DarkyROM?
is this link below the instructions on how to root my phone?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7152078&postcount=2
should i root my phone first?
or should i already go with the install of CyanogenMOD or DarkyROM?
how do i even know if my phone has already been rooted?
I updated the 1st post with more details.
i have my phone, its model is SGS I9003.
too bad Lexrsk can't help me further but i hope someone can guide me in rooting my phone.
please look the updated details on the 1st post.
can i even do the rooting on my phone?