[q] what are the pros and cons of jailbreak - HD7 General

i upgraded from a G1 to a HD7 and wondering what are the pros and cons of jailbreaking or what ever it is call for this phone (im used to rooting) and if there a link on how to do it would be great

Personally, I couldn't wait to root and rom the hell out of my HD2, it was such a crappy out-of-box experience. That's how I found XDA.
IMO, the HD7 and WP OS are pretty flawless, and I have no wants or desires to jailbreak it. I'm not looking to hop carriers or sideload apps, so I personally see no need for it.
That said, the list of why you might want to is just about the same for rooting/jailbreaking any phone.

To load custom phone, text, and alarm ringers, make custom settings as to how u want your phone to behave, tethering.... the usual

thank you ^_^ but can some one give me a link on how to do it since i want to read more into it but cant find out how

MrKickstand said:
thank you ^_^ but can some one give me a link on how to do it since i want to read more into it but cant find out how
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If you have phone that was shipped with NoDo (7.0.7390 afaik) you are out of luck, since we can't unlock them yet. (there may be some possibilities involving flashing but I#m not sure)
If you have one of the old ones you can use the "Chevron" tool (after an eventual downgrade) and then update, it will stay unlocked.
The "legal" way would be to buy an $99/year developer account and officially unlock your phone. (Or if you are a student you will get one for free)
However I would wait and stay tuned, since MS seems to introduce an official free way of side loading apps fore those who do not need a complete dev account.

TheRaggyGandalf said:
If you have phone that was shipped with NoDo (7.0.7390 afaik) you are out of luck, since we can't unlock them yet. (there may be some possibilities involving flashing but I#m not sure)
If you have one of the old ones you can use the "Chevron" tool (after an eventual downgrade) and then update, it will stay unlocked.
The "legal" way would be to buy an $99/year developer account and officially unlock your phone. (Or if you are a student you will get one for free)
However I would wait and stay tuned, since MS seems to introduce an official free way of side loading apps fore those who do not need a complete dev account.
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this is what my phone says
OS Version: 7.0.7392.0
Firmware Revision Number: 2250.09.12001.531
Hardware Revision Number: 0002
Radio Software: 5.51.09.11A_22.31.50.09U
Radio Hardware: A.12.0.D4
Bootloader: 1.20.2250.0(111584)
Chip SOC Version: 2.2.5.0

How about, finding out what your MAC address is. Yes you need to Root the phone to get that.

Eriksz said:
How about, finding out what your MAC address is. Yes you need to Root the phone to get that.
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what are you talking about?

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Used Captivate - Now What?

I recently bought a used captivate . The seller has advertised it as 2.1 .This will be my first android device and i have no idea what things should i do 1st .
i have the following questions:
1. if i get a device with Stock OS 2.1 ,should i directly update it to 2.2 with Kies Mini or first unlock it before upgrading to 2.2 .
Does the unlock process becomes difficult after an official 2.2 OR
The upgrade process becomes difficult after unlocking
2.since official 2.2 has been released there is no point in reading custom ROM threads .DO custom roms offer any advantage over the official 2.2?
3.Is tethering working on 2.2 ..i guess it was disabled on the lastest 2.1 update
4.HOW do i check if i got a phone with stock 2.1 and if it hasnt been flashed with custom roms and reverted back .This will be useful in troubleshooting if i get into any problems
personally a custom rom would be a better idea than stock 2.2, most custom ROMs are on 2.2.1. All preference though... I never personally liked the iphone-esque launcher of Samsung, so I tend to stay away from custom ROMs. Why would you go from a 2.2.1 version to a 2.2 filled with AT&T's bloatware.
Check phone info in settings to see what version it's on
And when you update to a new version it generally needs to be re-rooted especially if it's official.
In the Dev section you can find an Odin one-click to stock ROM
If you're on 2.1 you want to get your real official unlock code before you upgrade (once you upgrade you can't get this unlock code). Write the code down, just in case somehow the phone relocks (mine never has).
start reading. i cant STRESS that enough!!!!!
i read for 3 days before i flashed anything custom.
KNOW what you are doing so when you do mess up (we all do) you can properly explain what you screwed up...
start here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-I897
then check out the stickies in each section of the captivate forum.
michael.seltzer said:
If you're on 2.1 you want to get your real official unlock code before you upgrade (once you upgrade you can't get this unlock code). Write the code down, just in case somehow the phone relocks (mine never has).
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While it is easier to get the unlock code if the phone has never been flashed, it is far from impossible after.
michael.seltzer said:
If you're on 2.1 you want to get your real official unlock code before you upgrade (once you upgrade you can't get this unlock code). Write the code down, just in case somehow the phone relocks (mine never has).
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not true. i unlocked on 2.2 last month. you just need a new version of your unlock program. or a different unlock program.
2.2 isnt new. ATT isnt the rest of the world. ATT was late. time for you ATT people to catch up to the rest of the world.
thanks for all the replies
There was a thread which said there are no workarounds for 2.2
how do i check if the seller has upgraded to 2.2 and then reverted back to stock 2.1 before selling me ? This will effect the unlocking process as there are many methods posted
What the official unlock code (is it through SGS Unlocker?)
Is the unlock code stored on phone or on SD card . i am not be getting the original SD card

Freeing Myself from Carrier Updates - HD7

Greetings All,
Just bought a HD7 from Telstra in Australia and I have a simple question regarding the ROM currently on it in regards to receiving updates on the device.
What I am really after is the ability to free myself from Telstra in an official way.
I'd like a Vanilla ROM for my HD7 that will still allow me to receive updates from Microsoft and/or HTC as they are released, cutting out the 'Approval Time' set by Telstra. (Telstra is one of two carriers worldwide that still hasn't released NoDo for their network - I'm scared to even ask about the HTC Specific update released just after NoDo)
Is what I'm asking to do impossible?
I can see the ROM available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993186
It looks official enough, but I'd like confirmation that this ROM will still allow me to receive updates as I've heard that people hacking ROMS/Updates onto their devices won’t be receiving future updates.
A secondary request would be help unlocking of said ROM so that I can tinker with the registry, side load apps ect, but at the moment I'd just like the ability to receive updates as they are released.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Estens.
estens said:
Greetings All,
Just bought a HD7 from Telstra in Australia and I have a simple question regarding the ROM currently on it in regards to receiving updates on the device.
What I am really after is the ability to free myself from Telstra in an official way.
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Frist: Gratz to your HD7!
Depending on your country laws, a modification of the preinstalled rom is not legal or at least voids your warranty. (thankfully in germany its only the latter, which makes no effect bevause you can flash back to an operator ROM for warranty reasons).
estens said:
I'd like a Vanilla ROM for my HD7 that will still allow me to receive updates from Microsoft and/or HTC as they are released, cutting out the 'Approval Time' set by Telstra. (Telstra is one of two carriers worldwide that still hasn't released NoDo for their network - I'm scared to even ask about the HTC Specific update released just after NoDo)
Is what I'm asking to do impossible?
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It is possible to flash any compatible rom (HD7 ROM) on your device. See this thread for a howto. The other way is that ansar provides a hacked rom that you can update without goldcard. (See the threads of him in the dev Froums). But keep in mind that they are modified by ansar and therefore not really official. (I use one of them on my phone atm, without any problems)
estens said:
I can see the ROM available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993186
It looks official enough, but I'd like confirmation that this ROM will still allow me to receive updates as I've heard that people hacking ROMS/Updates onto their devices won’t be receiving future updates.
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This rom is a telstra rom with OS Verion 7389. The official OS verion is 7390. So if you flash this one, you still will get an update via zune (the 7390 one). I did not see any differencec between 7389 and 7390.
estens said:
A secondary request would be help unlocking of said ROM so that I can tinker with the registry, side load apps ect, but at the moment I'd just like the ability to receive updates as they are released.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Estens.
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You want an dev-unlock via chevron. Just search a bit around, there are many informations out in the web how to do that.
estens said:
...I've heard that people hacking ROMS/Updates onto their devices won’t be receiving future updates...
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It was possible to force a NoDo Update via chevron (that has nothing to do with dev-unlock or flashing a rom on you rdevice). If you do this (force the nodo update via chevron) you possibly won't get any further updates.
Hope i helped
ST13Hogan said:
Frist: Gratz to your HD7!
Depending on your country laws, a modification of the preinstalled rom is not legal or at least voids your warranty. (thankfully in germany its only the latter, which makes no effect bevause you can flash back to an operator ROM for warranty reasons).
It is possible to flash any compatible rom (HD7 ROM) on your device. See this thread for a howto. The other way is that ansar provides a hacked rom that you can update without goldcard. (See the threads of him in the dev Froums). But keep in mind that they are modified by ansar and therefore not really official. (I use one of them on my phone atm, without any problems)
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Huh? I thought Ansar's ROMs were just various branded/unbranded ROMs? Pretty sure you can't install a truly modified ROM with a locked bootloader, right? Some people have security unlocked phones, and can thus flash whatever they want. In my case, though, Ansar's TMOUS ROM system image has the exact same md5 as Football's stock...therefore, I'm assuming it still has MS signatures intact. Flashing anything without a signature fails at 0% on my phone.
I was under the impression that Ansar's unbranded ROMs take advantage of the fact that certain branded phones (O2 for example?) simply allow flashing of unbranded ROMs (or other still signed bootloaders, which allow flashing of unbranded ROMs)? Is this anywhere near correct?
inconceeeivable said:
Huh? I thought Ansar's ROMs were just various branded/unbranded ROMs? Pretty sure you can't install a truly modified ROM with a locked bootloader, right? Some people have security unlocked phones, and can thus flash whatever they want. In my case, though, Ansar's TMOUS ROM system image has the exact same md5 as Football's stock...therefore, I'm assuming it still has MS signatures intact. Flashing anything without a signature fails at 0% on my phone.
I was under the impression that Ansar's unbranded ROMs take advantage of the fact that certain branded phones (O2 for example?) simply allow flashing of unbranded ROMs (or other still signed bootloaders, which allow flashing of unbranded ROMs)? Is this anywhere near correct?
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I have flashed a ROM from ansar to unbrand my HD7 from O2. But i can't flash a HTC Europe ROM (invalid vendor ID). I'm not sure if they are hacked or not but dorianmuthig stated here that they are.
Maybe ansar himself can bring in some light.
Thanks for the info ST13Hogan, your a champion.
Basically, the method to use would be to flash to the ROM I mentioned in the original post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993186
Then unlock the ROM using the dev-unlock tools.
Then upgrade the device to recieve NoDo.
This will still leave me at the mercy of Telstra for updates though will it not? Pretty sure they still haven't approved NoDo for their network so I'll have to wait till it gets approved before i can do this.
Thanks again.
Estens.
On a somewhat related note, i found this article and it looks rather interesting.
Can anyone confirm that this works as it may be exactly what i've been looking for.
http://blog.walshie.me/2011/03/23/h...-and-get-your-windows-phone-updates-htc-only/

[Q] I'm at v7403 [unlocked] how to get to 7720 [unlocked]?!

Hi mates,
I hope someone can help me and answer my question...
First of all this is what im using:
HTC HD7 T9292
OS: 7.0.7403.0
firmware: 2250.09.11601.401
hareware: 0002
radiosoft:5.51.09.06a_22.30.50.09U
radiohard:A.102.0.D4
bootloader: 1.16.2250.0(110866)
chip-soc: 2.2.5.0
i followed some guide by ansar and patched the following '(about 2month ago or something):
RUU_Schubert_HTC_Europe_1.70.901.02_Radio_5.64.09.27a_22.43.50.15_NoDo_by_ansar
RUU_Schubert_HTC_Europe_1.70.901.02_Radio_5.64.09.27a_22.43.50.15_NoDo_Signed_by_ansar
anyway...now I'm trying to patch to mango (7720) but dont really exactly know which guide i shall follow.
I tried this guide twice and failed somehow.. because i wasnt able to unlock mango with U2B2 or Connection setup: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271153
But im also not even sure which Connection setup version is the working/correct one. :/ And it seems that 7712 is not longer available anymore.
So the problem i have is that im kinda stuck at 7.0.7403.0 which is unlocked and working great. I just dont know what next... is 7712 somewhere available ? or is there already a way where u can just update to 7720 und unlock after updating?
So if anyone could left me a hand and help me out.. that would be awesome.
The thing is that i dont want to flash risky ROM's where your phone may become a brick u know. :]
And sorry for my english. :S
i know of two ways...
one. the way of ansar.
ansar's [XAP] Update to Mango 7720 RTM, here.
for OEM drivers, use this, here.
two. Custom ROM route.
tutorial, here.
sh4d0w86
sh4d0w86 said:
i know of two ways...
one. the way of ansar.
ansar's [XAP] Update to Mango 7720 RTM, here.
for OEM drivers, use this, here.
two. Custom ROM route.
tutorial, here.
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That first one is the one i'm trying all the time. I dont want to change RSPL/HSPL stuff like explained in two. And ansars post says:
>> You can try even with a PreNoDo 7004 stock ROM
>> there is no need for RSPL/HSPL installation
Im starting with 7.0.7004 - RUU_Schubert_HTC_Europe_1.16.401.01_Radio_5.51.09.06a_22.30.50.09_Signed_SCHUBERT_RELEASE
Then unlock, get connection setup (v1.5 cuz 1.12 doesnt work) and other updates from febuary (which is still prenodo or nodo i guess), update to 7403 which is still unlocked and them im stuck there. then i can do the update to 7720 but it wont keep unlocked. Is it possible that 7712 is not available anymore? Or would you be so kind and tell me what are the next steps then if i dont have 7712?
i, personally, haven't ever tried ansar's way nor flashed any of his ROMs, actually.
i don't understand his posts.
so, i am afraid i don't think i could be of more help.
i have just gone the Custom ROM route. seemed easier.
i wrote a tutorial about it, actually, that is how easy i found it.
link is in my signature, if interested.
sh4d0w86.

[Q] Custom ROMS with *only* Interop-Unlock

Hi,
Firstly apologies if this has already been answered elsewhere - I have had a look and couldn't find anything specific to my needs.
Basically, my question is...Is there a custom ROM for the HD7 which consists ONLY of Interop Unlock and no other changes from stock functionality?
I am looking to be able to use WP7 Root Tools on my HD7 but I do not want to use one of these crazy custom ROMS - no offense to the guys who put in the hard work to make 'em, it's just not what I'm looking for - I just want a stock Mango ROM, but I want it to be interop-unlocked.
Here's the progress I've made so far:
-My device is currently unbranded Europe (was previously O2UK but flashed an unbranded NoDo ROM back in the day) upgraded all the way to 8107. This means that I'm on a bootloader version > 5.10. Fortunately then, I am capable of using this method to downgrade my bootloader as I have a 401 (European) phone. I have the original unbranded NoDo ROM which I flashed when it first came out, which should have a low enough bootloader version.
-After that, I should be capable of flashing an RSPL/HSPL to my device, although I'm not sure exactly how to go about that. The instructions in this thread seem like a good place to start.
-Once that is achieved, I could theoretically grab the 7720 ROM from here, and edit it to include Interop Unlock. Then, flash it to my phone, run WP7 Root Tools, and I'm good to go! This is obviously the part I'm most likely to have issues with, I'm not exactly a ROM chef, and it doesn't look very beginner friendly
Hence my question: Is there a custom ROM already out there (presumably it would have to have Mango v1 drivers) which will be as close to stock as possible but with InteropUnlock so I can run WP7RootTools?
OR: Can I simplify these steps in any way?
Thanks for any replies... meanwhile, I'm going to continue my research!
Yeah...I'd say your on the right track. Use ansars SLSPL method for Europe devices to downgrade your SPL and using Shadows tutorial to install RSPL/HSPL. You can also get the 2nd rom needed for the SLSPL method from Shadows tutorial. The hard part is going to be adding in an unlock to the rom. I know this isn't the answer that your wanting but your best bet would be to find a custom rom that is as close to stock as possible!
Heh, thanks. I figured as much.
Well, it turns out that this needn't necessarily be as complicated as all that - I've just discovered that my student App Hub registration is still live (I could have sworn it had run out, as I was unable to dev-unlock my phone) but since updating to that latest Tango which just became available today, I am able to dev-unlock my phone again!
So, slightly different question: are dev-unlocks only possible with the most recent firmware? (Surely unlikely given the current status of firmware rollouts)
The reason I was unable to unlock my phone previously was possibly because of registry tweaks made down the line - I kept getting "error check the phone's time and date are correct" when the time and date were obviously correct.
If it is still possible to dev-unlock a device running Mango, then I can simply use ansar's SLSPL method to go straight to Mango 7720, dev-unlock, Interop-unlock, install WP7RootTools and mission accomplished
EDIT: Well, there goes that plan - while my device is currently on 401 (Europe firmware) it is not actually a 401 device (as it was previously o2UK branded) so I can't use ansar's method....time to go and find me a USB Y-cable!

[Q] Flash ROM my phone, will it fix anything?

Hey there everyone
(TLDR version on bottom)
I've got a somewhat problem on my hand,
I did search this forum, but didn't find the real answers to my question
I was on holiday in china last month, and i got the brilliant idea of buying my HTC One there instead of in my country, The netherlands
Now it seems my Blinkfeed on HTC wont be able to show English or Dutch news or Facebook updates, Nor do I have the Play Store.
so i went to a HTC servicecenter, they told me there is nothing much they can do about it.. and one of the employers told me to visit this website and "Flash a ROM" (since i have no warranty anyway)... now.. I'm a Complete and utter noob with phone software, so I tried to find some info about it all, but i am still somewhat confused what will happen if i "unlock boot", "root" or "flash a rom"
i found this video on your forum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LENBpQW7mM4
and read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069904 this
and when i read this... and if i would do this... how do i know what kind of version of the HTC i should use, and will i have acces to the Blinkfeed with news from my country and Google Play store(that works)
i have a T-Mobile Simcard, but it's not a tmobile phone
so now my questions
1. Is it Safe to unlock bootloader, root and flash rom?
2. If i do it, Which Version should i take? (T-Mobile, M7, Sprint or ATT(although i think this is for america?)
3. Will it give me a properly working Blinkfeed with english / dutch news and facebook?
TLDR version:
Problems:
- Bought HTC One in china
- Blinkfeed news and Social media is only Chinese
- I have no Play Store
- I dont know what Unlocking bootloader, Root and ROM will fix
info:
The sellswoman from HTC china said it is an international phone, but i dont know for sure, since she also told me i could have english news on my blinkfeed etc.
questions:
so now my questions
1. Is it Safe to unlock bootloader, root and flash rom?
2. If i do it, Which Version should i take? (T-Mobile, M7, Sprint or ATT(although i think this is for america?)
3. Will it give me a properly working Blinkfeed with english / dutch news and facebook?
1. yes is safe to unlock bootloader via htc dev
2. still unclear about what to say, maybe you have dual sim version? what numer it is 802w ?
3. i have blinkfeed in english but is not usefull until you root phone
EDIT: >> If you don't did ota update >>> DON'T DO IT YET !!
criszz said:
1. yes is safe to unlock bootloader via htc dev
2. still unclear about what to say, maybe you have dual sim version? what numer it is 802w ?
3. i have blinkfeed in english but is not usefull until you root phone
EDIT: >> If you don't did ota update >>> DON'T DO IT YET !!
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thanks for your answers
i didn't do any update yet? i don't know what "ota" is ?
and ehm I have the 801e
gr,
bjel
Bjelanov said:
thanks for your answers
i didn't do any update yet? i don't know what "ota" is ?
and ehm I have the 801e
gr,
bjel
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OTA stands for Over The Air. Some ROMs require you to be at a certain "CID" (Carrier ID) and/or "MID" (Model ID). In order to change those IDs on your phone so you can install different ROMs that you might not normally be able to, you need what is called S-OFF. HBOOT 1.44 (which is what these devices shipped with) are able to be "S-OFF'ed" - if you install the OTA, the HBOOT will be upgraded to 1.54 and S-OFF is not able to be achieved on that version, effectively sticking you to whatever CID and MID you currently have.
If you'll be installing ROMs that are for your current model, you don't need to worry about S-OFF but I'd still shy away from the OTA just in case at some point later on you do want to delve into that world.
Seeing as how you aren't even sure what an OTA is I would take your time and read through the various guides on here extremely carefully. Some of these processes can leave you with a bricked phone if you don't know what you're doing. I'm not trying to be rude either, just offering a word of advise. You don't want to turn your expensive phone into an expensive paper weight.
DanRyb said:
OTA stands for Over The Air. Some ROMs require you to be at a certain "CID" (Carrier ID) and/or "MID" (Model ID). In order to change those IDs on your phone so you can install different ROMs that you might not normally be able to, you need what is called S-OFF. HBOOT 1.44 (which is what these devices shipped with) are able to be "S-OFF'ed" - if you install the OTA, the HBOOT will be upgraded to 1.54 and S-OFF is not able to be achieved on that version, effectively sticking you to whatever CID and MID you currently have.
If you'll be installing ROMs that are for your current model, you don't need to worry about S-OFF but I'd still shy away from the OTA just in case at some point later on you do want to delve into that world.
Seeing as how you aren't even sure what an OTA is I would take your time and read through the various guides on here extremely carefully. Some of these processes can leave you with a bricked phone if you don't know what you're doing. I'm not trying to be rude either, just offering a word of advise. You don't want to turn your expensive phone into an expensive paper weight.
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very much appreciated for taking time for giving me this answer, and yeah i'm afraid i will end up with an expensive paper weight as well if i do this... so i will just leave it be for the moment, unfortunately I do not know anyone who is experienced with this
maybe i can ask for 1 more thing, is there anyway to get a working Google Play on my phone? if i download the APK and install it... when it starts up it closes down immediatly again (download manager is enabled)

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