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I'm new to Android and tablets and have never had a smart phone. However, I am in the computer field and am relatively technical. At the very least, I'm intelligent and can follow clear directions.
Where I'm running into trouble is that, because this is all so new to me, I'm lost when reading a lot of these forums, because I have no idea what all these terms mean or what things are.
Here's where I'm at with my Nook Color. Got it a week ago, rooted it with AutoNooter 3.0, got ADB working (finally) over USB. YouTube works. Can get my email. Using Launcher Pro and Dolphin HD. That's about it.
I'm unclear about a few things, and I realize they're pretty basic. But I've searched and searched and can't find clear answers. Hopefully, someone here can help me:
1. How do I know what version of Android I've got on this thing. Nowhere can I find a place to see the version number. And the AutoNooter 3.0 page didn't tell me what version it installs. 2.2?
2. Does Flash work on this or not? This is related to question 1, because I need to at least know what Android version I'm using before I can even beging to search to figure out whether Flash works with it.
3. What is CM7?
4. I tried installing Flash101.apk with ADB, but get the message: INSTALL_FAILED_OLDER_SDK. Again, I'd like to know what this means, but what I've read says the Flash version is for an newer Android version. So, we're back to... what version of Android is on this thing?
As fas as the rest, does anyone know if there's anything out there that goes over basic terms for those of us completely new to Android and tablets/phones and rooting them? Much of the instructions I read refer to things I've never heard of and, when I try looking up those terms, I just get more terms I've never heard of.
Thanks!
1) You have 2.1 (Eclair)
2) No, you need 2.2. There are several options, including simply running it from an SD card or flashing it to memory (eMMC)
3) CM7 is andrioid 2.3. Good stuff, but still a work in progress.
4) See #2
Thanks very much for responding.
Regarding your answers:
1. Is there a place on the Nook where I can find this?
2. Can you recommend a link to a method for getting this? Is it an upgrade, or would I be completely re-rooting this thing and having to reconfigure everything?
Any suggestions on some basic information for newbies?
Thanks again!
Sorry, I don't think I understand the question. Could you specify what you mean by "this"? Thanks.
Sorry, not sure which question you're referring to.
1. This = The version currently running on it.
2. This = Version 2.2
I can't be certian since I have moved to a CM7 variant, but I think it might be under settings either about or device information.
If you rooted with Autonooter you are on Android 2.1 Eclair. If you are running a froyo rom you are on Android 2.2. If on a CM7 based Rom you are on gingerbread android 2.3
loribuono said:
I'm new to Android and tablets and have never had a smart phone. However, I am in the computer field and am relatively technical. At the very least, I'm intelligent and can follow clear directions.
Where I'm running into trouble is that, because this is all so new to me, I'm lost when reading a lot of these forums, because I have no idea what all these terms mean or what things are.
Here's where I'm at with my Nook Color. Got it a week ago, rooted it with AutoNooter 3.0, got ADB working (finally) over USB. YouTube works. Can get my email. Using Launcher Pro and Dolphin HD. That's about it.
I'm unclear about a few things, and I realize they're pretty basic. But I've searched and searched and can't find clear answers. Hopefully, someone here can help me:
1. How do I know what version of Android I've got on this thing. Nowhere can I find a place to see the version number. And the AutoNooter 3.0 page didn't tell me what version it installs. 2.2?
2. Does Flash work on this or not? This is related to question 1, because I need to at least know what Android version I'm using before I can even beging to search to figure out whether Flash works with it.
3. What is CM7?
4. I tried installing Flash101.apk with ADB, but get the message: INSTALL_FAILED_OLDER_SDK. Again, I'd like to know what this means, but what I've read says the Flash version is for an newer Android version. So, we're back to... what version of Android is on this thing?
As fas as the rest, does anyone know if there's anything out there that goes over basic terms for those of us completely new to Android and tablets/phones and rooting them? Much of the instructions I read refer to things I've never heard of and, when I try looking up those terms, I just get more terms I've never heard of.
Thanks!
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CM7 (Cyanogenmod 7) is a custom rom, which is a custom operating system that replaces your current one. If you are not familiar with Android yet or rooting, I would stick with autnooter for now. Phiremod beta 2 is a stable custom rom with flash, but you need clockwork recovery first to install it.
Yeah, checked those places Wile E, but didn't see it there. Thanks, though.
stelv, would that run off the card or internally? If it runs off the card, I could try it out without messing up what I've already got, right?
loribuono said:
stelv, would that run off the card or internally? If it runs off the card, I could try it out without messing up what I've already got, right?
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Most custom rom installs (phiremod) would erase what you have now completely. You would have to redownload programs and use the nook color app from market for books. You could use titanium backup to backup and restore apps. There is a thread here and on androidtablets.net for phiremod beta 2.
But there may be a version of froyo that runs off sdcard but I am not sure how stable that is. If you are running froyo from an sdcard and mess with the nook internally, it may mess your nook up when you remove the card and try to go back to your old setup.
The good thing with the beta 2 version of phiremod is that you can restore a previous version of the nook from the clockwork recovery menu if you have cwr installed. That is if you make a backup first through cwr on your autonooter version of nook.
If you decide to go the route of a custom rom I would check out the how to on androidtablets.net about clockworkmod recovery first.
sent from my rooted nook color
Thanks for all the info. When you say "custom roms," are you referring to any rooting of your Nook Color? Is the version of Android I have after running the AutoNooter 3.0 considered a custom rom? Or did I just merely strip off some of the "skin" Barnes & Noble has on there, 'cause it didn't seem very much like I'd started over, but more like I "got past" something that was already on there and, therefore, opened up more functionality. Does that make any sense? I'm getting the feeling that Nookie Froyo and CM7 completely wipe your Nook and give you a fresh OS. Yes?
loribuono said:
Thanks for all the info. When you say "custom roms," are you referring to any rooting of your Nook Color? Is the version of Android I have after running the AutoNooter 3.0 considered a custom rom? Or did I just merely strip off some of the "skin" Barnes & Noble has on there, 'cause it didn't seem very much like I'd started over, but more like I "got past" something that was already on there and, therefore, opened up more functionality. Does that make any sense? I'm getting the feeling that Nookie Froyo and CM7 completely wipe your Nook and give you a fresh OS. Yes?
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Ok here is another long book by me, sorry for the long posts
Yes, Nookie Froyo, CM7, Phiremod give you an entirely new OS.
Custom roms are not any rooting. They are entirely different android operating systems so to speak. Most require one to wipe the devices internal Rom (Read Only Memory) in order to put a new one on. This is sort of risky as it erases everything, but is made less risky by using stable custom roms in combo with clockwork recovery. If the internal memory gets messed up and the procedures for instaling a custom rom are not followed or an error happens, your device will be unusable until fixed (fixed usually by booting CWR off sdcard and installing a stock image). Please do research and ask around XDA or androidtablets before installing a custom rom to know what the ups and downs of it are.
Also please keep in mind on the Nook certain Roms like CM7 require a different version of CWR and require a workaround to work as of now. It can be kind of tricky to install. Phiremod Beta2 can be installed through normal recovery. Check us out over at http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/nook/ if you want. There are a lot of useful guides over there.
Yes autonooter just opens up functionality
Autonooter is not a custom Rom. It is just the method of rooting or unlocking your android device. Rooting an Android device makes you system administrator of the device. This is so you can do things beyond what B&N lets you do with the device like use the Android market.
This is what I did with my Nook. Autnootered it>installed Clockwork Recovery>Made a backup with Clockwork Recovery>Then Installed Phiremod beta2 through clockwork recovery as per the instructions for that rom
Thanks again for this. I appreciate you taking the time to explain this to a newbie. It's beginning to make much more sense now. For now, I'll stick with what I've got, keep reading and then go from there.
Ugh. Authentication error while reading a book and then a reset, and I'm back to the beginning. Except worse, because even navigation while reading a book doesn't work right. Anyone experience this?
Sorry I don't have that issues so I am not sure. Maybe its a password issue?
Perhaps. Don't know. Starting over from scratch. All I know is that it happened when I was merely reading a book, about ten minutes after trying to login to Google Talk with a different Google account than the one I used during the AutoNooter process.
Who knows...
I have been lurking and reading for a couple of weeks now. I bought a used NC with 1.1 and used Autonooter to root it. Works great.
I bought a second NC which had the 1.2 s/w on it. I used the manualnooter process to root it. That works pretty well.
Now I'm thinking about getting into the nightly CM7 game. I'm wondering is there anything I need to watch out for with the 2 NC's I have if I do this. Do I have to take them back to stock? Can I just follow the CM7 instructions?
Any insight and guidance would be appreciated
50 views and no replies. If you read this and can help I would really appreciate some info. I'm reluctant to proceed until I hear from someone who has traveled the road before. Thanks
You can run CM7, stable or nightly, off of an SD card. You don't have to change anything on your Nooks to do this. In fact, they don't even need to be rooted. Running CM7 on the SD card will not change anything on the built-in memory of the Nook.
Look for the "size agnostic" thread, follow the directions, and you're good to go.
ps. I enjoy your music.
yeah, just follow the instructions on flashing cm7 for the first time. and make sure you understand the CWM instructions. you may want to try a stable rom for now. there are lots of battery and kernel issues right now with the nightly builds. but not to fear the devs are working hard to fix them. just stay with the stable's and your be fine. I hope this was helpful...
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yeah, just follow the instructions on flashing cm7 for the first time. and make sure you understand the CWM instructions. you may want to try a stable rom for now. there are lots of battery and kernel issues right now with the nightly builds. but not to fear the devs are working hard to fix them. just stay with the stable's and your be fine. I hope this was helpful...
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is this the one you mean?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11452450&postcount=19
Well, I went ahead figuring "How hard could it be anyway?".
I did the nand backup with CWM 3.0.2.8
I then ran ROM manager V4.2.0.2 from internal memory.
I choose the option that allows me to download ROMS.
I chose CyanogenMod, and then chose 7.0.3.
I downloaded the ROM
I then chose Install ROM from SD card
It asked me about clearing caches, etc and I chose the default values already checked.
It installed without errors.
I rebooted and it got to the last part of the boot process where the word "color" is rapidly changing and stayed there indefinitely,
I rebooted with CWM on the SD card and tried to reinstall the Manualnooter I loaded on this NC a week ago.
Rebooted. Still hung up.
I copied my nand backup to the CWN SD card and chose restore.
It booted back to my manualnooter install successfully.
So I'm successfully back where I started.
Can someone help me understand what I did wrong on what I need to do to make it work? Thanks
Not sure what went wrong, but I would also suggest trying verygreen's size-agnostic approach. You keep your manual nooter and can run CM7 from an SD card to see if you want to go all the way and remove the stock BN software.
Try this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
Or, if you want to go crazy, you could try racks' dual boot SD card image of Phiremod 6.2 (a variation of CM7) and Honeycomb. That's what I'm using and Phiremod works great (aside from battery life ) and honeycomb is just plain slick to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045018
I loaded CM7 7.0.2 stable and was able to get it going. Thanks
I got the NC from overstock for a good deal. I am pretty savvy technically and have rooted phones, returned to stock from a bricked android phone, etc.
So I got a blue dot 1.2 NC. I was initially planning to do a repartition and then install CM7. Thats how I started. I created a bootable CWM 3.08 uSD card. Ran the repartitioning script (from here). That went well.
Then I was reading about rooting and saw the Manual Nooter thread: this one
On a whim I ran the manual Nooter install, which ran well too ( I later realised that this was for STOCK 1.2 )
Then I installed CM7, gapps and OC kernel in that order which completed successfully too.
Now, when I start the NC, I am stuck at the n COLOR animation. Tried clearing data, cache, etc but nothing works.
How do I get out of this pickle? I am itching to use my first android tablet! Thanks for your help..
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I got the NC from overstock for a good deal. I am pretty savvy technically and have rooted phones, returned to stock from a bricked android phone, etc.
So I got a blue dot 1.2 NC. I was initially planning to do a repartition and then install CM7. Thats how I started. I created a bootable CWM 3.08 uSD card. Ran the repartitioning script (from here). That went well.
Then I was reading about rooting and saw the Manual Nooter thread: this one
On a whim I ran the manual Nooter install, which ran well too ( I later realised that this was for STOCK 1.2 )
Then I installed CM7, gapps and OC kernel in that order which completed successfully too.
Now, when I start the NC, I am stuck at the n COLOR animation. Tried clearing data, cache, etc but nothing works.
How do I get out of this pickle? I am itching to use my first android tablet! Thanks for your help..
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Since you are working with the blue dot, you need to upgrade your bootable CWM to version 3.2.0.1. That versions is designed with support for the blue bot. I would then rerun the repartitioning, since most likely it did not work right with the old CWM. At that point you should be able to wipe the system and install CM7, gapps, and OC.
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Since you are working with the blue dot, you need to upgrade your bootable CWM to version 3.2.0.1. That versions is designed with support for the blue bot. I would then rerun the repartitioning, since most likely it did not work right with the old CWM. At that point you should be able to wipe the system and install CM7, gapps, and OC.
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Thanks I will give that a try tonight and report back.
Newby Thoughts
What's a blue dot?
I'm a newby at this but why not start with a factory reset then build up to what you want. Sounds from your posts that you've just been throwing different things at it and somehow expecting things to work. Like I say, newby thoughts but the factory reset and step by step has worked for me--and apparently many others. Let us know if you try and how it works.
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GMPOWER said:
Since you are working with the blue dot, you need to upgrade your bootable CWM to version 3.2.0.1. That versions is designed with support for the blue bot. I would then rerun the repartitioning, since most likely it did not work right with the old CWM. At that point you should be able to wipe the system and install CM7, gapps, and OC.
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Thanks gmpower. That seemed to do the trick. I used CWM 321 and also made sure I did a data system and cache format before I installed CM7. The NC booted into CM7 and everything looks great now
Appreciate your help!
The blue dot is a sign on a box that the new nook is with a new partition setup , rather than what was originally provided with the nook.
Cuhulin said:
The blue dot is a sign on a box that the new nook is with a new partition setup , rather than what was originally provided with the nook.
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if you want to swap partitions back to 'old' setup,
which i did, DeanGibson's thread is good
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094371
now have 5 gb for storage - music, books, etc.
quick question, didn't the nook from overstock come with 1.2 stock?
i rooted my overstock blue dot one and am having weird power issues, so i was curious if it was a hardware failure or something with manual nooter?
thanks!
Cuhulin said:
The blue dot is a sign on a box that the new nook is with a new partition setup , rather than what was originally provided with the nook.
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does anyone know when these models became pervasive on the market? I have a friend who got a nook after me (mine was March, his in April I guess) and we had trouble following the process with his (which worked great for mine) and I'm just now realizing he may have the new one...
dag16 said:
quick question, didn't the nook from overstock come with 1.2 stock?
i rooted my overstock blue dot one and am having weird power issues, so i was curious if it was a hardware failure or something with manual nooter?
thanks!
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Yes I think my nook from OS came with 1.2 stock. It had the blue dot on the box. I initially turned it on and registered the device on the BN network. Following which I tried the whole rooting and custom ROM thing.
In my case I think using CWM 3.0.8 caused the issues I was having. Switching to 3.2.1 I was good to go.
What are these weird power issues that you are having?
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Yes I think my nook from OS came with 1.2 stock. It had the blue dot on the box. I initially turned it on and registered the device on the BN network. Following which I tried the whole rooting and custom ROM thing.
In my case I think using CWM 3.0.8 caused the issues I was having. Switching to 3.2.1 I was good to go.
What are these weird power issues that you are having?
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Thanks for the info.
Mine kept powering off randomly and constantly. I unrooted and restored stock, and it still persisted, so warranty replacement on the way!
Hello,
I have read and watched and searched different ways on rooting the nook and they all either don't seem to work or are confusing. Can someone point me in the direction of complete step by step instructions for rooting my nook on a micro SD card. I feel dumb while trying to do this because its my first ever root even though I have assembled computers. Its the software that makes me nervous. Thanks for any advice.
I totally understand how you might be hesitant to jump in. I came here a few months ago from a windows phone and had no clue about Android devices. Get yourself a Sandisk card (4 or 8gb ought to do the trick). I went with a cheaper card at first and was very disappointed with the way it worked.
Follow the directions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
and you should be fine. good luck!
It may be a little daunting at first (I'm a new NC owner myself). But just keep in mind, the NC is setup to boot off the SD Card first. So you essentially always have a recovery method there. Also, if you don't flash CWM (Clockwork Mod) to be your recovery, you can always use some methods to restore the device ( 8 failed boots for example). The methods are listed on the forums quite a few times. But, basically... android is just another flavor of *nix. Though it does have its own intricacies.
As long as you backup your current setup through CWM's backup operation (AKA: nandroid). You can do pretty much anything and just do a restore to get back to where you started. It's almost like ghosting a computer... It just doesn't redo your partitions.
Get yourself a copy of CWM Here's the most recent 1gb image. This basically gives you a bootable SD Card that can backup/restore the internal memory, format it, and flash images.
You can get the latest cyanogemod rom's nightlies here. You also need Google Apps if you're going to flash the new rom though.
And here's a guide to revert to stock.
Personally, I wouldn't bother with the SD Card system... I would just root the internal rom and flash back if you don't like it.... or flash a different rom, like CM7, if you want the nook to be more of a tablet than an e-reader... just keep in mind... it wasn't meant to be a tablet...
Hopefully this helped.
Ya just wanted to chime in. Its pretty hard to mess up on the process of rooting and if you do there's ton of threads to help you out along the way! Even the NC wasn't meant to be a true android tablet it does the job well and well worth the money. Maybe ill go better later down the road, but after what I paid for this NC brand new on CL I SOOOOO happy!
Sent from my NookColor using xda premium
I've been trying to find answers to all my questions but it's hard when I haven't been keeping up with the CM7 process, so I'll just start with the simplest I have
I am currently running CM7.0.3, can I update to Nightly 177 without clearing anything? (or should I update to 7.1 RC instead of 177)
The other question that I have that might be able to have an easy answer...is there any place I can go that tells me all the features of CM7 on Nook? I know a lot has changed in between 7.0.3 and now...their release notes are confusing because it deals a lot with fixes and backend that I don't need to know. Alternatively, if someone would wanna outline the changed/additions, that'd be awesome too!
7.1RC is pretty stable. I just updated to 176 the other day though and it's been almost as stable (a random freeze here or there.)
For updating, all you need to do is clear dalvik cache. You can keep all your apps, settings, etc.
As to what's really new, I'm not sure of all the changes. I know the kernel included in 176 allows for OCing to 1200MHz so that's nice. Hopefully someone else can chime in with what the big stuff is.
You can safely update to 177 either with ROM Manager if installed on the eMMC or by dropping the 177 .zip file onto the boot partition of the SD card if running off of the card. All you need to wipe is Davlik in either case.
You're not telling us how you run CM7, from eMMC or uSD.
if you do flash to n177 you'll also need this:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.dalingrin.nookcolortweaks&feature=search_result
thanks for the replies guys! Sorry, i forgot to mention that I'm currently running it off eMMC.
@boxcar8028 Thanks for the link that app!
This kinda brings me to the other question i had that I'm currently reading through the post for, but I'll ask here if anyone knows the answer...
I'd really like to do duel boot CM7 and B&N 1.3. Is it possible for me to go from where I am, update to 177 (or 7.1RC or anything like that), back that up and then do the duel boot from that file? That way I don't lose anything and I'm able to get duel boot?
I'm reading through ikingblack's post, but there is 17 pages and I don't have much time to spend on the forums unfortunately, so it'll take me a while to get all the way through!
Thanks again everyone!
I always prefer updating CM7 using CwM uSD card, not using ROM Manager.
Pop the new image into the uSD's root folder, boot up then install zip from there.
Note: you might (and most likely) run into the Market issue, don't panic, everyone of us got hit.
If you want to use stock 1.3, then I suggest spend $25 purchasing a 16G Sandisk uSD and boot CM7 off it.
bumping this in hopes someone can tell me what's new still...
@votinh, I don't like the idea of booting off the SD card because although many have not had any issues, many others have plus I like the idea of it actually being on there. if anything I'd love to be able to run the B&N software off a SD, but as far as I know the person who was working on that stopped and no one else has.
I'm just about to update to RC7.1 but now I'm hearing that the sleep of death issue is back, so I'm not sure about it. I'm pretty sure that it was fixed around 7.0.3 or before right?
We or at least I don't know what the new/additions/fixes/enhancements on the front-end of CM7 but what we know is their development logs:
http://cm-nightlies.appspot.com/?device=encore