since alphrev can't work on the lastest WWE_2.30.405.1, i search all over the world and can't find any method to root this rom on a S-on device, that means i can't downgrade to a old Ruu either, so i want to try another way, flash a higher rom that could be rooted, it's comfirmd that the HTC DHD rom RUU_Ace_Gingerbread_S_SoftBank_JP_2.37.762.2_Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2_release_186075_signed.exe could be root, but i am afraid the Hboot will not work on my IncS, can anybody give me a answer if i can?
thanks.
XTC
ma20at said:
since alphrev can't work on the lastest WWE_2.30.405.1, i search all over the world and can't find any method to root this rom on a S-on device, that means i can't downgrade to a old Ruu either, so i want to try another way, flash a higher rom that could be rooted, it's comfirmd that the HTC DHD rom RUU_Ace_Gingerbread_S_SoftBank_JP_2.37.762.2_Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2_release_186075_signed.exe could be root, but i am afraid the Hboot will not work on my IncS, can anybody give me a answer if i can?
thanks.
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Use an XTC Clip to S-OFF Your device !!! Right now thats the only option available to you !!!
HTC DHD Rom would not help your case 2 !!! You are locked on the hardware level unlock it first then move on !!!
This is a Higher Rom And the Radio is also Higher so you need to do the Xtc Method or wait till Alpharevx team comes up with some brilliant idea to Root your ROM!!!
Do not flash a ROM built for a different device to your phone. It's at best a waste of time and at worst dangerous to your device.
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Hello,
I just received my Incredible S yesterday, and after some searching around, I've finally found the guide to root it on this forum.
I'm going to use the guide, but as a new rooter (only rooted an HTC Desire), I have a few questions regarding this specific phone.
My phone is currently s-on, and I'm going to follow the guide to get to s-off mode. However, does it matter that I'm only running 2.2.1? Am I still able to root?
Also, when does s-on get activated again? Only wen I go back to a retail ROM?
And, this is a total noob question...Am I able to use the Recovery ROM on one memory card (an 8GB), go through the root process and then switch to a 16GB card to install a custom ROM?
Thanks.
1. alpharevx works for both Gingerbread (2.3) and Froyo (2.2)
2. If you flash an official ROM (you can find them in a collection thread somewhere here on xda) you'll go back to S-ON.
3. After you've "installed" the custom recovery, it doesn't matter how many times you change SD-card; the custom recovery will still be there since you flash it over the original recovery.
Short answer; Yes, you can use a different SD-card to install a custom ROM from!
OK, just found this information in the ROM that I want to use...
HTC Incredible S S-OFF
Radio S-OFF in order to flash new radio
ClockworkMod Recovery with EXT4 support from here
Does using AlphaRevX put the radio into s-off mode?
tazz131 said:
OK, just found this information in the ROM that I want to use...
HTC Incredible S S-OFF
Radio S-OFF in order to flash new radio
ClockworkMod Recovery with EXT4 support from here
Does using AlphaRevX put the radio into s-off mode?
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I've been searching the forums, but I can't find anything about that...
I'd like to know how to find out if your radio is S-OFF or S-ON. Or is radio S-OFF the same as HBoot S-OFF (which you get by using alpharevx)?
Sometimes I have to say it's a bit hard to find info about some things for he IncS
alpharevx s-off is sufficient...you don't have to do a special radio s-off..I'm already running Android Revolution HD 1.1.0
edit: even I didn't find anything specific about radio s-off
jaysonline said:
alpharevx s-off is sufficient...you don't have to do a special radio s-off..I'm already running Android Revolution HD 1.1.0
edit: even I didn't find anything specific about radio s-off
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Me neither, that's why I'm starting to get confused about the "what you need" part of ARHD forum topic...
And since it works for you, I guess what he means with "Radio S-OFF" is that you should flash that radio he recommends to use with his ROM, or does he know something that no one else on this forum knows?
Yes, I think that's what he means unless ofcourse he has some secrets
hey, i am new to this all this root and stuff...
just few question.
so, the s-ff in hdboot mean the phone is rootable?
and the Radio S-OFF means i can use any carrier I chose?
thank you :]
eqao said:
hey, i am new to this all this root and stuff...
just few question.
so, the s-ff in hdboot mean the phone is rootable?
and the Radio S-OFF means i can use any carrier I chose?
thank you :]
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s-off yes you can root your phone
radio s-off to use any carrier? i think you need to unlock your phone if it is for you to be able to use any carrier
radio s-off mean you can flash new radio versions
Hi guys
I have the Sensation and the Flyer so these days I was too busy trying to S-OFF them and to gain perm root. (no luck yet) During this time my Incredible S was turned off this means I have been away from my Incredible S for a month now.
Today I turned my Incredible S on and I saw that there is a new System update :
A SYSTEM UPDATE IS AVAILABLE
SYSTEM UPGRADE 2.30.405.1 (30.17MB)
My Incredible S has been S-OFF`ed since April by XTC CLIP and I have been on the stock Rom due to some errors on the customs roms like ( no harware backlight etc.)
My question is if I apply this update will I loose my S-OFF ?
Secondly If I loose S-OFF will XTC CLIP bring my S-OFF again ?
Thanks
DC
I got that this morning.... but then it vanished when i checked again
i think if you're s-off already you won't lose it. and you have the xtc clip anyways, worse comes to worst you can use it again.
i read that if you upgrade to this versoin on stock and try alpharevx, you won't be able to s-off it
i dont "think", i am 100% sure you will not lose your s-off
why? cuz i have tested every possible way to s-on again my phone..including OTA...
You will lose your S-off only when you overwrite bootloader.
I s-off my phone using AlphaRev but wanted to test a few things in full stock so installed my stock GB RUU to S-on my phone again.
After that I S-off again.
It will not s-on unless you run an RUU and overwrite bootloader. Even if you get it s-on accidentaly there its possible to s-off from any state So you shouldn't have any problem installing this OTA. This OTA doesn't have a bootloader (I assume you already on GB ). Froyo to GB OTA had a new bootloader in it.
Let me know if you face any problem s-offing and I'll assist you.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App
ehsan76 said:
You will lose your S-off only when you overwrite bootloader.
I s-off my phone using AlphaRev but wanted to test a few things in full stock so installed my stock GB RUU to S-on my phone again.
After that I S-off again.
It will not s-on unless you run an RUU and overwrite bootloader. Even if you get it s-on accidentaly there its possible to s-off from any state So you shouldn't have any problem installing this OTA. This OTA doesn't have a bootloader (I assume you already on GB ). Froyo to GB OTA had a new bootloader in it.
Let me know if you face any problem s-offing and I'll assist you.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App
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The OP has a XTC Clipped IncS that is S-OFF. This is not dependent on a patched HBOOT like AlphaRevX is; this is Radio S-OFF and will not be affected, even by running a RUU.
Ok I did the update but ,
I am getting an error installing the update 2.30.405.1
My current software is 2.12.405.7
Here is the video of the error .....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc8DPq6XlkA
Any ideas why ?
Maybe I might have installed another region RUU in April, but can't remember now.
doublecheese said:
Ok I did the update but ,
I am getting an error installing the update 2.30.405.1
My current software is 2.12.405.7
Here is the video of the error .....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc8DPq6XlkA
Any ideas why ?
In order to install the OTA, you need to replace ClockworkMod recovery with the recovery.img file from the 2.12.405.7 ROM.zip.
Maybe I might have installed another region RUU in April, but can't remember now.
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I tried this last night and actually got a progress bar and it got about 1/3 of the way and then I got a red triangle with a !. I know that the radio I have installed is newer than the one in the 2.12.405.7 ROM.zip, so that may be my problem. Anyway, I'm going to pass on the OTA and just go ahead and flash the 2.30 ROM.zip using ClockworkMod instead.
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The OP has a XTC Clipped IncS that is S-OFF. This is not dependent on a patched HBOOT like AlphaRevX is; this is Radio S-OFF and will not be affected, even by running a RUU.
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^^
This
RADIO S-OFF via XTC Clip is permanent as of right now.
AlphaRevX S-OFF method is reversible with a RUU.
tpbklake said:
The OP has a XTC Clipped IncS that is S-OFF. This is not dependent on a patched HBOOT like AlphaRevX is; this is Radio S-OFF and will not be affected, even by running a RUU.
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doublecheese said:
Ok I did the update but ,
I am getting an error installing the update 2.30.405.1
My current software is 2.12.405.7
Here is the video of the error .....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc8DPq6XlkA
Any ideas why ?
Maybe I might have installed another region RUU in April, but can't remember now.
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@tpbklake: Sorry I don't have any idea how XTC chip works as I bought Incredible S after a software s-off method had been confirmed
@doublecheese: Download the WWE_2.30.405.1 RUU from this link and try running it directly from your PC or use this guide to install it from boot-loader. Don't forget to take a Nandroid backup before upgrade
You wont need GoldCard in your case as you have WWE Incredible S and you are installing a WWE Rom on it
Hope this will help
Ehsan
You can't do ota updates when you have a custom recovery installed..
Guten tag Madmaxx82
If I just flash the WWE 2.30.405.1 RUU instead , would I loose my S-OFF ?
Sorry man it's been quite time I don't follow the IS forums.
yesterday i did updates into new version, nothing special, only my phone performance bit faster. and battery performance is same for me. but i think updates are always worthwhile.
doublecheese said:
Guten tag Madmaxx82
If I just flash the WWE 2.30.405.1 RUU instead , would I loose my S-OFF ?
Sorry man it's been quite time I don't follow the IS forums.
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Since you are S-OFF'd using the XTC Clip, you will be safe to flash the 2.30 RUU and still have S-OFF after the process.
tpbklake said:
Since you are S-OFF'd using the XTC Clip, you will be safe to flash the 2.30 RUU and still have S-OFF after the process.
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Thanks man if Ioose S-OFF. I'll XTC CLIP it again anyway .....
Im S-OFF with a XTC-Clip and is running stock 2.12.405.7 ROM.
Can anybody confirm 100% that i don't loos S-OFF if i upgrade to 2.30.405.1?
Im a bit nervous becaus i don't have access to a XTC-Clips any more.
jkolner said:
Im S-OFF with a XTC-Clip and is running stock 2.12.405.7 ROM.
Can anybody confirm 100% that i don't loos S-OFF if i upgrade to 2.30.405.1?
Im a bit nervous becaus i don't have access to a XTC-Clips any more.
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I took the 2.30.405.1 RUU and extracted the ROM.zip and then made a rooted ROM using the HTC Android Kitchen and flashed that on my clipped Inc S, so now I'm running GB 2.30.405.7 and still S-OFF. You can always go that route if you don't want to risk running the stock RUU.
jkolner said:
Im S-OFF with a XTC-Clip and is running stock 2.12.405.7 ROM.
Can anybody confirm 100% that i don't loos S-OFF if i upgrade to 2.30.405.1?
Im a bit nervous becaus i don't have access to a XTC-Clips any more.
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I own my own XTC CLIP and a S-OFF Incredible S , I can confirm that you will NOT loose S-OFF after the OTA . How I know ? Because I did the risk and apply the OTA myself ... But S-OFF remains there solid as rock !!!!
But you will loose your root and then you have to do what EHSAN76 suggested to me....... This is how I get my IS rooted again.
HERE IS THE LINK TO THAT THREAD
Hello again ppl..
been away some time, lost some of the developments here..
So I'm kind of confused.. I have the IS with 2.12.405.7 unlocked with AlpharevX.. and I want to go to 2.30.405.1
and as I told you I have a bunch of questions.. if someone could help would be nice..
- can I get the OTA update over the AlpharevX or will it stuck..?
- if I don't get the OTA can I use the XTC clip over AlpharevX to get a permanent S-OFF and then the OTA or it will burn everything.. ?
nikant said:
Hello again ppl..
been away some time, lost some of the developments here..
So I'm kind of confused.. I have the IS with 2.12.405.7 unlocked with AlpharevX.. and I want to go to 2.30.405.1
and as I told you I have a bunch of questions.. if someone could help would be nice..
- can I get the OTA update over the AlpharevX or will it stuck..?
- if I don't get the OTA can I use the XTC clip over AlpharevX to get a permanent S-OFF and then the OTA or it will burn everything.. ?
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In order to receive the OTA update, you need to have the standard HTC recovery in place instead of ClockworkMod. I believe if you search this forum you may find conflicting reports of whether taking the OTA after AlphaRevX made you lose S-Off or not. You will definitely lose root. If you do lose S-Off, the latest Revolutionary from AlphaRev/Unrevoked will work on 2.30. Your best bet would be to clip your phone if you access to a XTC clip. Then you wouldn't have to worry about it.
Or just install http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168796 if you want to stay with a stock ROM. I did.
thank you guys.. I'll probably try the cooked ruu.. (still curious though what would happen if I used XTC over the AlpharevXed hboot..)
Nothing different would happen. One is software based one is hardware based.
ste1164 said:
Nothing different would happen. One is software based one is hardware based.
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True but the clip says not to use over modified hboot..
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App
Sorry for a stupid question
But i'm just so confused with all the several stock roms that HTC offers and i just want to figure out which unbranded stock rom (don't require root) should i go with that would receive updates as they get released and would play nice with the Bell Incredible S S710a?
Also if i'm correct, after i S-OFF the device, i just need to install the recovery and then i can just flash the rom throug the recovery (just as i did with my X10) or is there something i'm missing (looking through these guides - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145541 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036581)?
Thanks and Happy New Year!
Tim
Timbits93 said:
Sorry for a stupid question
But i'm just so confused with all the several stock roms that HTC offers and i just want to figure out which unbranded stock rom (don't require root) should i go with that would receive updates as they get released and would play nice with the Bell Incredible S S710a?
Also if i'm correct, after i S-OFF the device, i just need to install the recovery and then i can just flash the rom throug the recovery (just as i did with my X10) or is there something i'm missing (looking through these guides - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145541 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036581)?
Thanks and Happy New Year!
Tim
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Since you are S-Off you should to able to follow the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145541
I have flashed all of the different WWE RUUs starting with 2.12.405 and I am currently running 3.08.405.3 on my S710a using this procedure.
Any need to flash a radio (guide doesn't mention it) or is it included in the ruu?
Timbits93 said:
Any need to flash a radio (guide doesn't mention it) or is it included in the ruu?
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Radio.img is a part of the RUU.
tpbklake said:
I am currently running 3.08.405.3 on my S710a using this procedure.
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I'm assuming you're running this rom now?
RUU_VIVO_SENSE30_S_HTC_WWE_3.08.405.3_Radio_20.4802.30.0822U_3822.10.08.28_M_release_227170_signed
Tried flashing that one, but got stuck at the HTC white screen for 15-20 min so i gave up and flashed back the Bell rom (which is back up)
Help?
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I'm assuming you're running this rom now?
RUU_VIVO_SENSE30_S_HTC_WWE_3.08.405.3_Radio_20.4802.30.0822U_3822.10.08.28_M_release_227170_signed
Tried flashing that one, but got stuck at the HTC white screen for 15-20 min so i gave up and flashed back the Bell rom (which is back up)
Help?
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How did you S-OFF? Did you use Revolutionary? If so that is the difference. My was unlocked and S-OFF using the XTC Clip so I didn't need to use Revolutionary.
Yeah i used Revolitionary, don't have or know anyone with a XTC Clip
Meh, might just give up and try flashing the Android Revolution HD rom (since it's essentially that rom, just cleaned up).
Thanks though!
Timbits93 said:
Yeah i used Revolitionary, don't have or know anyone with a XTC Clip
Meh, might just give up and try flashing the Android Revolution HD rom (since it's essentially that rom, just cleaned up).
Thanks though!
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Yeah that is the best course of action since you have the Revolutionary S-OFF HBOOT. It is going to prevent you from installing the official IncS Sense 3.0 RUU/ROM. I tried to build a rooted, stock ROM from the 3.08.405.3 RUU/ROM for you guys, but it will only boot if you have the official HBOOT 2.00.0000. It will not boot on the Revolutionary S-OFF HBOOT.
Hi,
what are the benifits of having s-off ? could someone tell me briefly ?
i can flash radio, rom, boot all without s-off so what is the key feature?
I dont need to change my cid cause i have the international One so do i need it ?
Can i flash hboot with s-off without relocking bootloader ??
thanks
B-Man2005 said:
Hi,
what are the benifits of having s-off ? could someone tell me briefly ?
i can flash radio, rom, boot all without s-off so what is the key feature?
I dont need to change my cid cause i have the international One so do i need it ?
Can i flash hboot with s-off without relocking bootloader ??
thanks
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Yes, no need to relock bootloader.
One of the advantage is that you can ruu/flash firmwares not specifically not for your device.
Btw you need super cid if you want to ruu firmwares from other carriers.
Sent from my HTC One
Thug_4_Life said:
Yes, no need to relock bootloader.
One of the advantage is that you can ruu/flash firmwares not specifically not for your device.
Btw you need super cid if you want to ruu firmwares from other carriers.
Sent from my HTC One
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"Yes, no need to relock bootloader."
thats enough for me ... thats good ... i hate relocking it when flashing hboot
B-Man2005 said:
Hi,
what are the benifits of having s-off ? could someone tell me briefly ?
i can flash radio, rom, boot all without s-off so what is the key feature?
I dont need to change my cid cause i have the international One so do i need it ?
Can i flash hboot with s-off without relocking bootloader ??
thanks
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I can think of two benefit.
The first one is receiving updates. I give the real example of the htc One X. When htc started rolling out the 4.1 update, very few CIDs received the update at first. others couldn't use updated custom roms, because the new rom required the new firmware, and everyone had to wait for very long (Literally months) until the firmware for their cid was released via ota (Even those using an international one x)
With S-off, as soon as someone receives the update, you can flash their updated firmware/hboot, and then update to the latest version using a custom rom or official RUU.
The other benefit that I would imagine is to be able to use the ROMs for the Google Edition of the htc One, which I guess would require a specific firmware or hboot, that we can flash with the s-off.
Shu. said:
I can think of two benefit.
The first one is receiving updates. I give the real example of the htc One X. When htc started rolling out the 4.1 update, very few CIDs received the update at first. others couldn't use updated custom roms, because the new rom required the new firmware, and everyone had to wait for very long (Literally months) until the firmware for their cid was released via ota (Even those using an international one x)
With S-off, as soon as someone receives the update, you can flash their updated firmware/hboot, and then update to the latest version using a custom rom or official RUU.
The other benefit that I would imagine is to be able to use the ROMs for the Google Edition of the htc One, which I guess would require a specific firmware or hboot, that we can flash with the s-off.
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no need for google edition ... no need for changing cid or flashing ruu´s
i always install renovate or mikes revolution hd and they always have the newest bases at first ...
so ... flashing hboot without relocking is benefit enough for me
thanks guys
With S-OFF you can also flash a custom splashscreens (the screen right before the bootanimation)
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2318987