Database Develop

A system update is available

Hi guys
I have the Sensation and the Flyer so these days I was too busy trying to S-OFF them and to gain perm root. (no luck yet) During this time my Incredible S was turned off this means I have been away from my Incredible S for a month now.
Today I turned my Incredible S on and I saw that there is a new System update :
A SYSTEM UPDATE IS AVAILABLE
SYSTEM UPGRADE 2.30.405.1 (30.17MB)
My Incredible S has been S-OFF`ed since April by XTC CLIP and I have been on the stock Rom due to some errors on the customs roms like ( no harware backlight etc.)
My question is if I apply this update will I loose my S-OFF ?
Secondly If I loose S-OFF will XTC CLIP bring my S-OFF again ?
Thanks
DC

I got that this morning.... but then it vanished when i checked again

i think if you're s-off already you won't lose it. and you have the xtc clip anyways, worse comes to worst you can use it again.
i read that if you upgrade to this versoin on stock and try alpharevx, you won't be able to s-off it

i dont "think", i am 100% sure you will not lose your s-off
why? cuz i have tested every possible way to s-on again my phone..including OTA...

You will lose your S-off only when you overwrite bootloader.
I s-off my phone using AlphaRev but wanted to test a few things in full stock so installed my stock GB RUU to S-on my phone again.
After that I S-off again.
It will not s-on unless you run an RUU and overwrite bootloader. Even if you get it s-on accidentaly there its possible to s-off from any state So you shouldn't have any problem installing this OTA. This OTA doesn't have a bootloader (I assume you already on GB ). Froyo to GB OTA had a new bootloader in it.
Let me know if you face any problem s-offing and I'll assist you.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App

ehsan76 said:
You will lose your S-off only when you overwrite bootloader.
I s-off my phone using AlphaRev but wanted to test a few things in full stock so installed my stock GB RUU to S-on my phone again.
After that I S-off again.
It will not s-on unless you run an RUU and overwrite bootloader. Even if you get it s-on accidentaly there its possible to s-off from any state So you shouldn't have any problem installing this OTA. This OTA doesn't have a bootloader (I assume you already on GB ). Froyo to GB OTA had a new bootloader in it.
Let me know if you face any problem s-offing and I'll assist you.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The OP has a XTC Clipped IncS that is S-OFF. This is not dependent on a patched HBOOT like AlphaRevX is; this is Radio S-OFF and will not be affected, even by running a RUU.

Ok I did the update but ,
I am getting an error installing the update 2.30.405.1
My current software is 2.12.405.7
Here is the video of the error .....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc8DPq6XlkA
Any ideas why ?
Maybe I might have installed another region RUU in April, but can't remember now.

doublecheese said:
Ok I did the update but ,
I am getting an error installing the update 2.30.405.1
My current software is 2.12.405.7
Here is the video of the error .....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc8DPq6XlkA
Any ideas why ?
In order to install the OTA, you need to replace ClockworkMod recovery with the recovery.img file from the 2.12.405.7 ROM.zip.
Maybe I might have installed another region RUU in April, but can't remember now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I tried this last night and actually got a progress bar and it got about 1/3 of the way and then I got a red triangle with a !. I know that the radio I have installed is newer than the one in the 2.12.405.7 ROM.zip, so that may be my problem. Anyway, I'm going to pass on the OTA and just go ahead and flash the 2.30 ROM.zip using ClockworkMod instead.

tpbklake said:
The OP has a XTC Clipped IncS that is S-OFF. This is not dependent on a patched HBOOT like AlphaRevX is; this is Radio S-OFF and will not be affected, even by running a RUU.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
^^
This
RADIO S-OFF via XTC Clip is permanent as of right now.
AlphaRevX S-OFF method is reversible with a RUU.

tpbklake said:
The OP has a XTC Clipped IncS that is S-OFF. This is not dependent on a patched HBOOT like AlphaRevX is; this is Radio S-OFF and will not be affected, even by running a RUU.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
doublecheese said:
Ok I did the update but ,
I am getting an error installing the update 2.30.405.1
My current software is 2.12.405.7
Here is the video of the error .....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc8DPq6XlkA
Any ideas why ?
Maybe I might have installed another region RUU in April, but can't remember now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
@tpbklake: Sorry I don't have any idea how XTC chip works as I bought Incredible S after a software s-off method had been confirmed
@doublecheese: Download the WWE_2.30.405.1 RUU from this link and try running it directly from your PC or use this guide to install it from boot-loader. Don't forget to take a Nandroid backup before upgrade
You wont need GoldCard in your case as you have WWE Incredible S and you are installing a WWE Rom on it
Hope this will help
Ehsan

You can't do ota updates when you have a custom recovery installed..

Guten tag Madmaxx82
If I just flash the WWE 2.30.405.1 RUU instead , would I loose my S-OFF ?
Sorry man it's been quite time I don't follow the IS forums.

yesterday i did updates into new version, nothing special, only my phone performance bit faster. and battery performance is same for me. but i think updates are always worthwhile.

doublecheese said:
Guten tag Madmaxx82
If I just flash the WWE 2.30.405.1 RUU instead , would I loose my S-OFF ?
Sorry man it's been quite time I don't follow the IS forums.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Since you are S-OFF'd using the XTC Clip, you will be safe to flash the 2.30 RUU and still have S-OFF after the process.

tpbklake said:
Since you are S-OFF'd using the XTC Clip, you will be safe to flash the 2.30 RUU and still have S-OFF after the process.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks man if Ioose S-OFF. I'll XTC CLIP it again anyway .....

Im S-OFF with a XTC-Clip and is running stock 2.12.405.7 ROM.
Can anybody confirm 100% that i don't loos S-OFF if i upgrade to 2.30.405.1?
Im a bit nervous becaus i don't have access to a XTC-Clips any more.

jkolner said:
Im S-OFF with a XTC-Clip and is running stock 2.12.405.7 ROM.
Can anybody confirm 100% that i don't loos S-OFF if i upgrade to 2.30.405.1?
Im a bit nervous becaus i don't have access to a XTC-Clips any more.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I took the 2.30.405.1 RUU and extracted the ROM.zip and then made a rooted ROM using the HTC Android Kitchen and flashed that on my clipped Inc S, so now I'm running GB 2.30.405.7 and still S-OFF. You can always go that route if you don't want to risk running the stock RUU.

jkolner said:
Im S-OFF with a XTC-Clip and is running stock 2.12.405.7 ROM.
Can anybody confirm 100% that i don't loos S-OFF if i upgrade to 2.30.405.1?
Im a bit nervous becaus i don't have access to a XTC-Clips any more.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I own my own XTC CLIP and a S-OFF Incredible S , I can confirm that you will NOT loose S-OFF after the OTA . How I know ? Because I did the risk and apply the OTA myself ... But S-OFF remains there solid as rock !!!!
But you will loose your root and then you have to do what EHSAN76 suggested to me....... This is how I get my IS rooted again.
HERE IS THE LINK TO THAT THREAD

Still S-OFF after updrading to 2.30.405.1 OTA

We have a discussions here at work and perhaps you guys can help...
We have 3 IncS that is S-OFF with a XTC-Clip, and we are considering to upgrade the standard ROM to the new 2.30.405.1 OTA.
So the question is if that is going to set the phone back to S-ON or will the still be S-OFF and Rooted?

I think the same question was discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159725

Thanks - realy appericiat yuor answer ;-)

jkolner said:
Thanks - realy appericiat yuor answer ;-)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yup the OP of that thread has confirmed that he flashed the OTA on his clipped IncS and retained S-OFF, although he did lose root and had to re-root.

When Some one S-OFF with xtc clip its for permanent no going back

can I use XTC clip over AlpharevX?

Hello again ppl..
been away some time, lost some of the developments here..
So I'm kind of confused.. I have the IS with 2.12.405.7 unlocked with AlpharevX.. and I want to go to 2.30.405.1
and as I told you I have a bunch of questions.. if someone could help would be nice..
- can I get the OTA update over the AlpharevX or will it stuck..?
- if I don't get the OTA can I use the XTC clip over AlpharevX to get a permanent S-OFF and then the OTA or it will burn everything.. ?

nikant said:
Hello again ppl..
been away some time, lost some of the developments here..
So I'm kind of confused.. I have the IS with 2.12.405.7 unlocked with AlpharevX.. and I want to go to 2.30.405.1
and as I told you I have a bunch of questions.. if someone could help would be nice..
- can I get the OTA update over the AlpharevX or will it stuck..?
- if I don't get the OTA can I use the XTC clip over AlpharevX to get a permanent S-OFF and then the OTA or it will burn everything.. ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In order to receive the OTA update, you need to have the standard HTC recovery in place instead of ClockworkMod. I believe if you search this forum you may find conflicting reports of whether taking the OTA after AlphaRevX made you lose S-Off or not. You will definitely lose root. If you do lose S-Off, the latest Revolutionary from AlphaRev/Unrevoked will work on 2.30. Your best bet would be to clip your phone if you access to a XTC clip. Then you wouldn't have to worry about it.

Or just install http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168796 if you want to stay with a stock ROM. I did.

thank you guys.. I'll probably try the cooked ruu.. (still curious though what would happen if I used XTC over the AlpharevXed hboot..)

Nothing different would happen. One is software based one is hardware based.

ste1164 said:
Nothing different would happen. One is software based one is hardware based.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
True but the clip says not to use over modified hboot..
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App

[q] hboot 1.16.0000 soff?

Sorry if this has been asked but i did search first...
I have a new (optus) IS,
GB 2.3.3
HBOOT 1.16.0000
ROM 2.34.980.1
I want soff and root but alpharevx will not work with 1.16.0000
Can i get soff and root or do i have to wait until alpahrevx gets updated?

Ueee said:
Sorry if this has been asked but i did search first...
I have a new (optus) IS,
GB 2.3.3
HBOOT 1.16.0000
ROM 2.34.980.1
I want soff and root but alpharevx will not work with 1.16.0000
Can i get soff and root or do i have to wait until alpahrevx gets updated?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here is a tool that is in the Development thread you could try. It may not work with your HBOOT 1.16.0000, but it's worth a shot, right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1245904

Go to revolutionary.io. You can s-off your device there.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App

Ueee said:
Sorry if this has been asked but i did search first...
I have a new (optus) IS,
GB 2.3.3
HBOOT 1.16.0000
ROM 2.34.980.1
I want soff and root but alpharevx will not work with 1.16.0000
Can i get soff and root or do i have to wait until alpahrevx gets updated?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ste1164 said:
Go to revolutionary.io. You can s-off your device there.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Although OP did mention alpharevx, the alpharevx site now redirects you to the revolutionary.io site. On their documentation wiki, they state:
HTC Incredible S (vivo) 1.09.0000 and 1.13.0000
So apparently he has a newer hboot version.

Sorry for the confusion, but to clarify i did try revolutionary, but got to it from an alpharevx link, hence the confusion.

I got the same problem here, new IS from Virgin mobile in early this month..... no clue at all....

omg, can we please get a method to get it working? After hours of research and rooting and videos, I then noticed that I had to get "S-OFF", but now I can't do it because the 1.16 version is out.
I'm new to these forums, just basically want to find out an answer, if anyone wants to say something email me on [email protected] as I may not check but I will try to visit and check on it. I'm so excited to root it an install cyanogenmod.
I've got Incredible S on virgin mobile unlocked.

Bump!!!
Every day atleast twice a day I keep looking back at the revolutionary site to see if they have updated anything yet. I'm not sure, but apparently can I goldcard (changing my HBOOT) then I will be able to root... or..? cause it's on 1.16 which is not able to be rooted yet apparently.
Not too sure. So damn impatient!

Ueee said:
Sorry for the confusion, but to clarify i did try revolutionary, but got to it from an alpharevx link, hence the confusion.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi, Ueee..
Did you have any sms delayed and
miss call problem for the 2.34.980.1 optus rom?

ansg86 said:
Hi, Ueee..
Did you have any sms delayed and
miss call problem for the 2.34.980.1 optus rom?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Also, what is your radio version?

ansg86 said:
Hi, Ueee..
Did you have any sms delayed and
miss call problem for the 2.34.980.1 optus rom?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No sms or missed call problems at all

neo-X said:
Also, what is your radio version?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Radio version is 20.2810.30.085au

Ueee said:
Radio version is 20.2810.30.085au
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Looks like they pushed a fix out with a new radio and base software. Good news!
Now just gotta get the optus rom on my phone and update it.
As for rooting your version, looks like your stuck until revolutionary release an update.

Does anyone know if it is a purely a radio problem? If not, if I restore the stock rom (nandroid) would it be possible to flash a custom kernel without screwing up my phone?

Tartarus1 said:
Does anyone know if it is a purely a radio problem? If not, if I restore the stock rom (nandroid) would it be possible to flash a custom kernel without screwing up my phone?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It seems as thought it's both radio and software problem.

Neo-X did you try loading the old Optus rom and then allow the OTA upgrade? Did it work?
I bought mine for mobicity then alpharexed it and using ARHD at present.
i guess installing the optus rom then OTA will remove the root.....

tzuyang said:
Neo-X did you try loading the old Optus rom and then allow the OTA upgrade? Did it work?
I bought mine for mobicity then alpharexed it and using ARHD at present.
i guess installing the optus rom then OTA will remove the root.....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No i didn't try it. I just sent it back in to downgrade because i'm giving the phone to a family member and need it working 100%. Yes it will but i would have thought that if you use revolutionary before you do anything that not even an ruu will touch hboot and you will be s-off no matter what.

humm
i think this is more of a sense problem than anything as i have had the missed calls/delayed sms on the HTC sensation Incrediable s and wild fire s
on all of them turning them to 2g only fixes the problem
this is causing me to switch away from htc for now as it kiils the smartphone experience

So is anyone able to answer my question?
I have HBOOT 1.16.0000 and have S-ON
I want to make it S-OFF, but revoloutionary.io only does 1.09.0000 and 1.13.0000
Can I get S-OFF so I can root? Thanks

jakeyo said:
So is anyone able to answer my question?
I have HBOOT 1.16.0000 and have S-ON
I want to make it S-OFF, but revoloutionary.io only does 1.09.0000 and 1.13.0000
Can I get S-OFF so I can root? Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does not look like you can for now. You will have to wait for revolutionary.

[Q] how to get radio s-off

i unlocked my bootloader using htcdev.com but security on radio is still on so is there any way to get radio s-off

Revolutionary or xtc clip

u cant use revolutionary on hboot 2.0 and i dont have xtc clip

You could have mentioned that in your original post,would have saved us both some time.

your best bet : xtc clip.
from your username i believe you're from india
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042997

my bootloader is already unlocked so no use getting an xtc clip is there no other way to get radio s-off

Downgrade hboot to 1.13
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1385084

jz use the htcdev.com to unlock..it winn show s-on but you can flash custom rom then.. ^^

McIero said:
jz use the htcdev.com to unlock..it winn show s-on but you can flash custom rom then.. ^^
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
u can flash a new rom but not a new radio because restrictions on radio still exists