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ROOT! I thought MOTO was gonna unlock new phones

So i thought MOTO decided to unlock their new phones? Why is the 3 so F'N locked up???

Sorry MODS...i thought i was in general forum...could you please move?

I've got a dinc2 on the way for my wife and I'm really considering giving her my d3 and taking the dinc2. The really liking how sense 3.0 looks and the dinc2 just got unlocked and rooted.!
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suzook said:
Sorry MODS...i thought i was in general forum...could you please move?
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Haha, my heart skipped a few beats there when I read the title. Damn it

Moto shipped the D3 with a locked bootloader, but they will unlock later this year (supposedly).
Plus, per their quote from another Engadget article
We completely understand the operator requirement for security to the end user, and as well, want to support the developer communities desire to use these products as a development platform. It is our intention to enable the unlockable/relockable bootloader currently found on Motorola XOOM across our portfolio of devices starting in late 2011, where carriers and operators will allow it
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...starting in late 2011, where carriers and operators will allow it.
Motorola will make the first move with the bootloaders, then Verizon (or whoever else) will make theirs. Dunno how long between Motorola and us getting the unlock, but they can delay the process

Lol you got me there
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For the love of God, change the OP title.

I feel a little left out in the dark. Droid 3 has been out longer and it seems there has been literally zero movement on it. Sucks living in an area with the only available carriers being Verizon and AT&T.

haproot said:
I feel a little left out in the dark. Droid 3 has been out longer and it seems there has been literally zero movement on it. Sucks living in an area with the only available carriers being Verizon and AT&T.
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It's a locked bootloader running 2.3.4 which is extremely tough to crack. Plus you add in the fact that every single known exploit is blocked, that's the development delay.
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Moderators, please rename this thread, the subject is very misleading. OP doesn't seem to care.
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I doubt we'll see the bootloader unlocked. Look at HTC even. They've released their list of devices they'll be allowing the web-based unlock to happen with and it's over a dozen deep with not a single Verizon device on the list. It's Verizon that doesn't want us to have the unlock, not Motorola.

If Motorola really wanted us to have an unlock they would leak it. Maybe Googlorola will instead?
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Androidsims said:
If Motorola really wanted us to have an unlock they would leak it. Maybe Googlorola will instead?
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I prefer motoogle

elkay said:
I doubt we'll see the bootloader unlocked. Look at HTC even. They've released their list of devices they'll be allowing the web-based unlock to happen with and it's over a dozen deep with not a single Verizon device on the list. It's Verizon that doesn't want us to have the unlock, not Motorola.
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That sucks. I was worried that was the case and it most likely is. Anybody know if AT&T has anything that is unlockable? Its my only other choice for a carrier.
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Androidsims said:
If Motorola really wanted us to have an unlock they would leak it. Maybe Googlorola will instead?
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Motorola probably has a contract with Verizon that they will not unlock the phones without their permission first, which they would be breaching and surely be sued for if they simply just went ahead and did it.

haproot said:
That sucks. I was worried that was the case and it most likely is. Anybody know if AT&T has anything that is unlockable? Its my only other choice for a carrier.
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The Atrix bootloader can be unlocked. It might void some or all of your warranty, but it can be unlocked.

Please! Just got me for the second time.
leobg said:
Moderators, please rename this thread, the subject is very misleading. OP doesn't seem to care.
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dtdlurch said:
Please! Just got me for the second time.
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Try reading.. Only thing that needs to be changed is the exclamation point to a question mark and it couldn't get any clearer.

[Q] Droid 3 and AT&T

Hello, guys. I just came to USA and I do not how everything works here. I want Droid 3 as you can already know because I am posting here) I can buy this perfect device only locked by verizon but I do not like their plans so I think that AT&T will be good for me.
So as I understand after reading this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1172521&page=1 the necessary steps are the following:
1) I buy the phone for example here Droid 3 by motorola .
2) I buy the unlocking code at ebay (the seller is freedomobile).
3) I unlock the device using above code.
4) I buy the AT&T SIM-card.
5) I activate the SIM-card
and everything should work. Is everything correct?
And one more question: will I have the warranty?
How about buying already unlocked phone here http://negrielectronics.com/motorola-xt860-droid-3-850-1900-3g-unlocked.html
Thank you very much.

no it wont

volcomnator999 said:
no it wont
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What question is this answer to? And why?

g3n1uss said:
What question is this answer to? And why?
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I am not going to preach about searching or anything because it's quite lame IMO.
However, to answer your question, it won't work. From what I understand, Verizon was able to convince/modify/something with Motorola to prevent GSM networks inside the US to use the phone. I am not sure of the technical reasons specifically, but as far as I know, an unlocked Droid 3 just will not work on US GSM networks.
Besides, I strongly discourage against AT&T. There are reasons why people are willing to pay slightly more for Verizon.

Verizon tinkered with the baseband firmware which blocks all US GSM networks. We cannot replace the firmware unless we have an unlocked bootloader.
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Might not answer your question but I thought I saw someone post saying they use their droid 3 on cricket. *shrug*
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wootizzle said:
Might not answer your question but I thought I saw someone post saying they use their droid 3 on cricket. *shrug*
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The D3 can be flashed to Cricket. The Droid 2 Global, which is also a global, can be flashed to Cricket. The thing is that VZW doesn't want their global phones being used on GSM bands (AT&T/T-Mobile) in the US.
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So, the only way to buy the phone in USA is choosing the operator at first and then choosing the phone on the web site of the operator, correct?
And how about already unlocked devices by negrielectronics?

If you can get the proper unlocking code it WILL work on ATT. I know TeamBlackHat(which has a good reputation) sells these codes and has successfully done it.
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My question is will I be able to activate my SIM-card in unlocked droid 3?

kshen1 said:
If you can get the proper unlocking code it WILL work on ATT. I know TeamBlackHat(which has a good reputation) sells these codes and has successfully done it.
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Really? Did I miss something? Do you have a link?

Google it...
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Couldn't find.

Guys, I need your advice about negrielectronics.com Can I trust them? They told me that selling devices already unlocked and can be used with AT&T.

g3n1uss said:
Guys, I need your advice about negrielectronics.com Can I trust them? They told me that selling devices already unlocked and can be used with AT&T.
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They are pretty reputable. They sent Jon over at technobuffalo a htc sensation that was unlocked and could be used on att. I would say go for it.
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XT860 (Bell and OEM) may work, read few success stories about it.
The regular XT862, which is verizon's version will not work definitely.
I'm not from the US though, but I visit the states every summer and I know that my upcoming XT862 will not work while i'm visiting

aGoGo said:
XT860 (Bell and OEM) may work, read few success stories about it.
The regular XT862, which is verizon's version will not work definitely.
I'm not from the US though, but I visit the states every summer and I know that my upcoming XT862 will not work while i'm visiting
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You don't know that...we've seen Droid pros, droid 2 globals on ATt thanks to tbh.
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Have similar question with regards to this problem.
I am using a Droid3 XT862 that has been unlocked, and I'm living in Jamaica.
However for some reason I cannot get the phone to work with one of my local networks. I can get it to work with two of them, namely Digicel and Claro. But I cant get it to work with Lime for some strange reason. I know the phone is capable to operate on the bandwidths which are listed below:
Digicel: GSM 900/1800 MHZ, UMTS 900 MHZ
Lime: GSM 850/1900 MHZ, UMTS 850/1900 MHZ
Claro: GSM 850/1900 MHZ, UMTS 850/1900 MHZ
All of which can work on the phone, and I also believe I shouldn't have the problem because I'm not using a US network where use is firmware locked. But my network of choice is Lime who is the only network that offers 3g locally. When I put in my lime sim it says "invalid sim card/no sim" and when I try to register to the lime network the phone says "Your sim card does not allow a connection to this network".
Any suggestions/solutions?

rweb said:
Really? Did I miss something? Do you have a link?
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For realz! Get us a link to this ish!

kshen1 said:
You don't know that...we've seen Droid pros, droid 2 globals on ATt thanks to tbh.
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(@wjones) Just head over Droid 2 Global section.
But before you do so, let me give you the bad news. TBH solution will not work on D3, neitheron does on newer D2G/DPro firmwares. It is all described there by CellZealot (TBH) in the D2G thread. Sorry, if you want D3 on AT&T, go buy Bell XT860.
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This is where moto stands on its updates

http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=57374053&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-266
Blame the hardware. How about blame the developers on their end!
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I don't reckon most Droid 3 owners give a **** about ICS on their phones, nor do they have any clue what it even is. That is a shame though, because for Android enthusiasts like us, it is a big deal, especially when we are running ICS on it already and it makes MotoBlur look like the old LG Env interface.
Most people don't root, and Verizon isn't going to promote an OS version over a new handset. I love my D3, but it's utter nonsense that it won't get official ICS just months after Google called the version the great unifier that can and will run on every phone.
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I'm still running the alpha 6 and all seriousness if it weren't for a few things I would swear it was better than alpha. If motorola only knew what a pure ics experience was like on their hardware they could easily bury samsung and the crap nexus they released.
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davwman said:
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=57374053&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-266
Blame the hardware. How about blame the developers on their end!
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I compared the hardware specs between XT860 and Galaxy Nexus and the only differences I really saw was that we only have 512mb ram. Same GPU almost the same CPU, I think moto is buying time so Goog can save them
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jckeyser said:
Most people don't root, and Verizon isn't going to promote an OS version over a new handset. I love my D3, but it's utter nonsense that it won't get official ICS just months after Google called the version the great unifier that can and will run on every phone.
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Moto still has not confirmed that the D3 is not getting ICS. As the DX and D2 both received GB well after they were no longer being sold, I think it's a good possibility that it will. We'll see, though.

doogald said:
Moto still has not confirmed that the D3 is not getting ICS. As the DX and D2 both received GB well after they were no longer being sold, I think it's a good possibility that it will. We'll see, though.
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I think hashcode will get us ics long before moto does
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He already has. And Beta is right around the corner.
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How about unlocking the damn boot loaders and let us decide what is on our phone
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Well, that too.
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volcanomike said:
How about unlocking the damn boot loaders and let us decide what is on our phone
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I doubt that we will ever see bootloaders unlocked on our current phones. I suspect that it could not be done without sending the phones back to Motorola and having them replace the "one time" programmable firmware. Why else would having a Dev Razr be useless for unlocking other Razrs. I think the only way we would ever be able to put anything we wanted on these phones would be if Moto released their encrypted key so that the phone would accept it. FAT chance of that happening, but I bet that hasn't crossed anyone's mind at Moto. Maybe we could suggest that to them.
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The main bootloader unlock change.org page is over 7500 signed. Its got to mean something.
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Here's some good news though
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/0...n-of-motorola-to-clear-as-early-as-next-week/ Hopefully this will get something done and some good progress made.

nice!
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Good. Motorola actually has some nice hardware now but they suck with software it seems.

davwman said:
The main bootloader unlock change.org page is over 7500 signed. Its got to mean something.
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OK, can someone answer a possibly dumb question for me? I've spent the last year happily rooting my original Droid and running custom roms - finally settling on Cyanogen Mod. Now, I'm no expert but I've found it pretty easy to do by just following the instructions that are available many places online. I now have my Droid 3 and so far am just running it stock - waiting for CM9 to get to a release version.
So, from the discussion I'm assuming that rooting the Device and loading Cyanogen is somehow something less than "unlocking the boot loader". But if it is, does that matter? Whatever that actually means it doesn't seem to be preventing anyone from running custom ROM's - or am I missing something?

Reminds me of h4ck1ng t3h g1b50n

Hack the planet!
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ratman6161 said:
OK, can someone answer a possibly dumb question for me? I've spent the last year happily rooting my original Droid and running custom roms - finally settling on Cyanogen Mod. Now, I'm no expert but I've found it pretty easy to do by just following the instructions that are available many places online. I now have my Droid 3 and so far am just running it stock - waiting for CM9 to get to a release version.
So, from the discussion I'm assuming that rooting the Device and loading Cyanogen is somehow something less than "unlocking the boot loader". But if it is, does that matter? Whatever that actually means it doesn't seem to be preventing anyone from running custom ROM's - or am I missing something?
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With a locked bootloader we ca still run custom roms thanks to tricky devs but no custom kernels
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Endoroid said:
With a locked bootloader we ca still run custom roms thanks to tricky devs but no custom kernels
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But I used to run custom kernels on my Droid 1 too. I was running CM7.1 with a Chevy#1 (think that's what it was) kernel which was what let me use Set CPU to overclock. Is that not loading a "custom kernel"? Or was the boot loader unlocked on my Droid 2?
I'm not criticizing or saying anyone else is wrong - I'm just trying to understand what the differences are between what I have been doing and having a true "unlocked boot loader". What are the things that would allow me to do that can't be done now?

droid 1 is the only true unlocked bootloader moto phone with the exception of the atrix, which was accomplished with many many hours of work.
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[Q] Can I use D4 on gsm network?

I use unlocked D3 but this device is 512MB ram also there is no official ICS(no flash reader, no camcorder). If I can use D4 on gsm network, I'll upgrade!
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Yes you can, but currently only with the leaked ICS firmwares. The stock gingerbread firmware does not allow it. Supposedly the official ICS firmware is due in Q3 2012
I made a thread here with instructions on how to do it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766479

Will this work if the droid 4 has a bad ESN?
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Should be, the esn is usually used to activate cdma, for gsm you only have to activate a sim card and put it in...

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Will this work if the droid 4 has a bad ESN?
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Works without any issues so far.

That's good I know I will get this done do I need a unlock code?
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That's good I know I will get this done do I need a unlock code?
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Just take one w/o contract - and that should be enough. No unlock codes was required for me.

mrAdvo said:
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Just take one w/o contract - and that should be enough. No unlock codes was required for me.
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OK thanks
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Almost the answer I was looking for.
So could someone confirm this:
Bad esn doesn't affect calling via a SIMcard?
I know it's a very old thread, but worth trying..

ESN's and IMEI numbers are used for GSM phones(AT&T, T-Mobile and now Verizon also). MEID numbers are used with CDMA phones(Verizon,Sprint) and just because the phone has ics or jb doesn't mean it's unlocked. You still have to install a different sim card and put in an unlock code which you can get from Verizon if you are with them or pay for it online somewhere. Once the new sim card is installed into phone and the unlock code is entered, the phone will state that your device has been unlocked. Unlocking phones is mainly for overseas use outside of the US. I have much experience with this as I served in the U.S. military for 10 years and I took my old phone over with me. Upon arrival in the new country, you set up cell service with a GSM provider, install their sim card and viola! Hope I could clear this up for you guys! Not trying to sound mean, just informative.
EDIT: Bad ESN's or MEID's can be a bad thing but some can be changed or flashed over with new one's from third party service providers like PagePlus Cellular, etc.
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Root question(s)

There's a lot of info floating around out there so I figured I'd try to set the record straight. And I can't be the only ones with these questions, so it might be good to have the answers all in one place.
From what I understand, the root for the note 3 on other carriers is working, even though some are still listed as untested. What would happen if one was to try the procedure on the at&t variant?
Next question is more of just a general outlook for the rooting future of this device. Is it looking like its doable, a hell of a challenge, or just plain impossible?
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Plug it in and click! I'm "rooting" for you!!!!
At&t Note III...& At&t G Pro

Same goes for the Rogers Wireless SM-N900W8 version in Canada... Usually anything that works for the AT&T perks for us so I'm just waiting....
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From everything that I have read over the past couple of days AT&T has a locked bootloader. The TMobile version doesn't have one. The reason why root works for it is because it flashes a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP and then roots it from there. That is not possible with a locked bootloader. I would rather get the TMobile version of the Note 3 and just SIM unlock it and use it on AT&T but coming up with $700+ dollars is not an option for me. So I can only hope an exploit is found for the AT&T version.
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From everything that I have read over the past couple of days AT&T has a locked bootloader. The TMobile version doesn't have one. The reason why root works for it is because it flashes a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP and then roots it from there. That is not possible with a locked bootloader. I would rather get the TMobile version of the Note 3 and just SIM unlock it and use it on AT&T but coming up with $700+ dollars is not an option for me. So I can only hope an exploit is found for the AT&T version.
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There will always be a workaround. The phones only been out a little while so it's always best to wait and be patient. Yeah it sucks but early stuff can be unstable. No matter how hard it gets lock down it's not going to be "unlockable". It's just a matter of how much work it's going to take to unlock it.

Well its pretty much going 2 be a hell of a challenge. I'm coming from att Galaxy S4 & it has been crazy over there as far as this bootloader locking with att. U do have root but things haven't been easy by no means so I'm sure it'll be no easier with this device, if not more difficult. But hey I'm optimistic, if we can just get root I'll be happy...
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I find the loki recovery to be easy on the S4.. remember Sprint and Verizon also will have lock bootloaders.
I doubt the two largest networks (Vzw, AT&T) will be left in the dirt.
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YoungAceAtlanta said:
I find the loki recovery to be easy on the S4.. remember Sprint and Verizon also will have lock bootloaders.
I doubt the two largest networks (Vzw, AT&T) will be left in the dirt.
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Not with 4.3
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Everyone thought the same about the S4 with the mf3 update then it got rooted with safestrap to load roms. Everyone thought you couldn't reverse it but it is now reversible. There is even a one click app to root it. Just give it some time.

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From everything that I have read over the past couple of days AT&T has a locked bootloader. The TMobile version doesn't have one. The reason why root works for it is because it flashes a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP and then roots it from there. That is not possible with a locked bootloader. I would rather get the TMobile version of the Note 3 and just SIM unlock it and use it on AT&T but coming up with $700+ dollars is not an option for me. So I can only hope an exploit is found for the AT&T version.
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Cf-auto-root does not flash a custom recovery. It just roots.
At&t Note III...& At&t G Pro