http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=57374053&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-266
Blame the hardware. How about blame the developers on their end!
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I don't reckon most Droid 3 owners give a **** about ICS on their phones, nor do they have any clue what it even is. That is a shame though, because for Android enthusiasts like us, it is a big deal, especially when we are running ICS on it already and it makes MotoBlur look like the old LG Env interface.
Most people don't root, and Verizon isn't going to promote an OS version over a new handset. I love my D3, but it's utter nonsense that it won't get official ICS just months after Google called the version the great unifier that can and will run on every phone.
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I'm still running the alpha 6 and all seriousness if it weren't for a few things I would swear it was better than alpha. If motorola only knew what a pure ics experience was like on their hardware they could easily bury samsung and the crap nexus they released.
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davwman said:
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=57374053&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-266
Blame the hardware. How about blame the developers on their end!
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I compared the hardware specs between XT860 and Galaxy Nexus and the only differences I really saw was that we only have 512mb ram. Same GPU almost the same CPU, I think moto is buying time so Goog can save them
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jckeyser said:
Most people don't root, and Verizon isn't going to promote an OS version over a new handset. I love my D3, but it's utter nonsense that it won't get official ICS just months after Google called the version the great unifier that can and will run on every phone.
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Moto still has not confirmed that the D3 is not getting ICS. As the DX and D2 both received GB well after they were no longer being sold, I think it's a good possibility that it will. We'll see, though.
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Moto still has not confirmed that the D3 is not getting ICS. As the DX and D2 both received GB well after they were no longer being sold, I think it's a good possibility that it will. We'll see, though.
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I think hashcode will get us ics long before moto does
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He already has. And Beta is right around the corner.
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How about unlocking the damn boot loaders and let us decide what is on our phone
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Well, that too.
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How about unlocking the damn boot loaders and let us decide what is on our phone
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I doubt that we will ever see bootloaders unlocked on our current phones. I suspect that it could not be done without sending the phones back to Motorola and having them replace the "one time" programmable firmware. Why else would having a Dev Razr be useless for unlocking other Razrs. I think the only way we would ever be able to put anything we wanted on these phones would be if Moto released their encrypted key so that the phone would accept it. FAT chance of that happening, but I bet that hasn't crossed anyone's mind at Moto. Maybe we could suggest that to them.
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The main bootloader unlock change.org page is over 7500 signed. Its got to mean something.
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Here's some good news though
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/0...n-of-motorola-to-clear-as-early-as-next-week/ Hopefully this will get something done and some good progress made.
nice!
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Good. Motorola actually has some nice hardware now but they suck with software it seems.
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The main bootloader unlock change.org page is over 7500 signed. Its got to mean something.
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OK, can someone answer a possibly dumb question for me? I've spent the last year happily rooting my original Droid and running custom roms - finally settling on Cyanogen Mod. Now, I'm no expert but I've found it pretty easy to do by just following the instructions that are available many places online. I now have my Droid 3 and so far am just running it stock - waiting for CM9 to get to a release version.
So, from the discussion I'm assuming that rooting the Device and loading Cyanogen is somehow something less than "unlocking the boot loader". But if it is, does that matter? Whatever that actually means it doesn't seem to be preventing anyone from running custom ROM's - or am I missing something?
Reminds me of h4ck1ng t3h g1b50n
Hack the planet!
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OK, can someone answer a possibly dumb question for me? I've spent the last year happily rooting my original Droid and running custom roms - finally settling on Cyanogen Mod. Now, I'm no expert but I've found it pretty easy to do by just following the instructions that are available many places online. I now have my Droid 3 and so far am just running it stock - waiting for CM9 to get to a release version.
So, from the discussion I'm assuming that rooting the Device and loading Cyanogen is somehow something less than "unlocking the boot loader". But if it is, does that matter? Whatever that actually means it doesn't seem to be preventing anyone from running custom ROM's - or am I missing something?
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With a locked bootloader we ca still run custom roms thanks to tricky devs but no custom kernels
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With a locked bootloader we ca still run custom roms thanks to tricky devs but no custom kernels
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But I used to run custom kernels on my Droid 1 too. I was running CM7.1 with a Chevy#1 (think that's what it was) kernel which was what let me use Set CPU to overclock. Is that not loading a "custom kernel"? Or was the boot loader unlocked on my Droid 2?
I'm not criticizing or saying anyone else is wrong - I'm just trying to understand what the differences are between what I have been doing and having a true "unlocked boot loader". What are the things that would allow me to do that can't be done now?
droid 1 is the only true unlocked bootloader moto phone with the exception of the atrix, which was accomplished with many many hours of work.
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Read the post at the url below. It describes how to get updates from Motorola cloud servers. It might be useful in getting unlocks for other phones. Please spread the word to anyone interested in an unlock for Motorola Android phones with Blur.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1164582
Link doesn't work
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Here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1164582
Once we get root this will be huge. Until then we need to remember this trick
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you can see all the Motorola cloud stuff by going to testing and Motorola services. *#*#4636#*#* in the dialer gets you to testing. Don't know if this has any usefulness to it just thought id share.
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Not much on the dialer trick
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I hope root comes for the phone soon, the amount of VZW crap ware is crazy.
Has anyone tried z4 to see what happens?
I'm sure it doesn't work cause if its that simple we would be rooted
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all of the available root options have been tried by various members of this forum and others as well. its probably going to be a while before we get root.
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Time is what it takes, and it has to be made worthwhile for devs to spend their time on it. ICS is coming and lets face it many will be looking to that as the next great frontier.
I know from various forums that with the confirmed members who will put up enough coin a ambitious dev would get enough to easily pay for a D3.
Can the Droid 3 be used on T-Mobile if unlocked or rooted? I ask because I noticed a SIM card slot. Thanks..
So I called the number off this link below and they claim they can unlock the Droid 3 for AT&T and it would work on 3g. Also, they can do the same for T-Mobile but it would only work on Edge. Can anyone confirm this? Has anyone dealt with this site before? Thanks.
http://negrielectronics.com/motorola-xt860-droid-3-850-1900-3g-unlocked.html
so i dont know but ive been derpin around and noticed a couple things....first off apparently there is a sdk that has been updated for the droid 3 over at MOTODEV site....i was looking through some settings and enabled data encryption which required a boot into some sort of recovery where the internal disk obviously allowed -rw access inwhich i was wondering if it would be possible to dump this process through ADB (maybe find handshake)....and a simple ls command thru term reveals bloatware galore
Have we looked at te exploit that the nexus users are using? They can root 2.3.3, 2.3.4, and now 2.3.5. Seems we should use their exploit if possible
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http://forum.rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=2007
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nerdslogic said:
Have we looked at te exploit that the nexus users are using? They can root 2.3.3, 2.3.4, and now 2.3.5. Seems we should use their exploit if possible
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Unlocked bootloader makes rooting easier. What works for them (unlocked) will not work for the Droid 3 (locked bootloader).
androidowns said:
So I called the number off this link below and they claim they can unlock the Droid 3 for AT&T and it would work on 3g. Also, they can do the same for T-Mobile but it would only work on Edge. Can anyone confirm this? Has anyone dealt with this site before? Thanks.
http://negrielectronics.com/motorola-xt860-droid-3-850-1900-3g-unlocked.html
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They say it's the XT860 which is technically not the droid 3 but the non CDMA version of it being deployed by Bell Canada (which should be easy enough to unlock for AT&T and T-Mobile)
dilwaala said:
They say it's the XT860 which is technically not the droid 3 but the non CDMA version of it being deployed by Bell Canada (which should be easy enough to unlock for AT&T and T-Mobile)
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Unless it's like the D2G, in which case it's locked from AT&T-Mobile.
Protip: call VZW Global Services and tell them you're going to India (no global plans over there - you have to either not use your phone or rack up a giant bill) and ask for the SIM unlock code. Account has to be in good standing and the device has to be on your line.
If you have 6 months of good standing you can just ask for an unlock with no reason given.
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If I'm not mistaken, the Bionic has an encrypted bootloader. Will there actually be a development community behind this phone?
According to a developer on the mikmik forums the bionics boot loader is unlocked and the system dump has been rooted.
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Beamer9408 said:
According to a developer on the mikmik forums the bionics boot loader is unlocked and the system dump has been rooted.
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P3Droid (who is the man) has the deodexed dumps already.
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...id-bionic-system-dumps-partial.html#post99195
I'm sort of waiting to see if the Droid Prime is vanilla or not. Maybe by then the Bionic will be cheaper and I can compare the two. I imagine the CM team will develop for this beast.
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According to a developer on the mikmik forums the bionics boot loader is unlocked and the system dump has been rooted.
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The bootloader is not unlocked. It is unlockable if the carriers allow it. And that is the question "if"
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P3Droid (who is the man) has the deodexed dumps already.
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...id-bionic-system-dumps-partial.html#post99195
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Thanks for posting that.
Just so nobody panics my ROM & kernels listing will be up by Saturday. Hopefully by then we'll at least have a few ROMs out.
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According to a developer on the mikmik forums the bionics boot loader is unlocked and the system dump has been rooted.
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Okay I am confused, I just picked up the Bionic today and i'm coming from an iphone so bear with me on my droid stupidity. you said the bionics boot loader is unlocked which is a good thing to load custom roms and then....
trentreed said:
The bootloader is not unlocked. It is unlockable if the carriers allow it. And that is the question "if"
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you say its locked & unlockable if the carrier allows it, but the HTC Thunderbolt's boot loader is unlocked, so shouldn't this one be as well? All I know is that there is a crap ton of software that I do not want and would like to remove in the future.
Again I apologize for my question but having 2 people saying 2 different things to someone new like me just confuses me.
Should I return it and get the tbolt so i can get some cm7 roms, or will this have them in the future and should i wait it out?
sLpFhaWK said:
Okay I am confused, I just picked up the Bionic today and i'm coming from an iphone so bear with me on my droid stupidity. you said the bionics boot loader is unlocked which is a good thing to load custom roms and then....
you say its locked & unlockable if the carrier allows it, but the HTC Thunderbolt's boot loader is unlocked, so shouldn't this one be as well? All I know is that there is a crap ton of software that I do not want and would like to remove in the future.
Again I apologize for my question but having 2 people saying 2 different things to someone new like me just confuses me.
Should I return it and get the tbolt so i can get some cm7 roms, or will this have them in the future and should i wait it out?
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Moto's had a nasty habit of locking bootloaders, which prevents custom kernels from running.
HTC did for awhile, but got some sense and knocked it off. Samsung doesn't lock theirs.
Even if Verizon does permit unlocked bootloaders, Moto still has to implement it. And if they don't, well, we're out of luck until they either change their policy or someone figures out how to get around it.
HTC has publicly stated they are only unlocking bootloaders of phones starting with the Sensation and the EVO 3D and forward; this doesn't include the Thunderbolt.
Berzerker7 said:
HTC has publicly stated they are only unlocking bootloaders of phones starting with the Sensation and the EVO 3D and forward; this doesn't include the Thunderbolt.
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yet we can unlock the tbolt easily.
I sure hope so! Can't wait and hope it develops as the Inc forum has
the unlocked bootloader is a deciding factor in me getting this phone, I have hopes that a developer can get it. God knows how long it'll take if they do actually approve the unlock for it to go through, could be 6-8 months.
The Bootloader doesn't need to be unlocked for custom Roms.
I have one waiting in the wings for Bootstrap to be up.
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The Bootloader doesn't need to be unlocked for custom Roms.
I have one waiting in the wings for Bootstrap to be up.
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Yeah I know but you won't be able to flash kernels or radio's. That really is a big help to improve performance and battery consumption.
If I can find one cheap enough I might jump in before then
POQbum said:
Yeah I know but you won't be able to flash kernels or radio's. That really is a big help to improve performance and battery consumption.
If I can find one cheap enough I might jump in before then
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Agree completely.. at least overclocking should be possible. Even with the debloat and the few tweaks I have made now, the phone doesn't hiccup. The damn thing is a powerhouse, when we can start digging inti MEM and RAM settings I can see some great potential. At least until the bootloader gets unlocked.
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People are working on getting 2nd init working on the Bionic. Can't give too many details yet...but it could be coming...
Berzerker7 said:
People are working on getting 2nd init working on the Bionic. Can't give too many details yet...but it could be coming...
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!!!!
yeah! paypal ready and waiting
Keep me in the loop on that please
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How the hell do I get rid of the bloat in this phone? I just rooted
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Tommymac1039 said:
How the hell do I get rid of the bloat in this phone? I just rooted
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Just use titanium to freeze or remove.
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Tommymac1039 said:
How the hell do I get rid of the bloat in this phone? I just rooted
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well you can wait for theorys rom to come out... or if you can't wait use titanium backup.. and freeze the apps.
that will get them out of your system ... and best if yo want to go back just unfreeze them.
As some of you who follow me on Twitter (@Hashcode0f) may already know, I booted up ICS today on the Droid 3.
Almost nothing works (including touch sensor for the screen), but it's progress on that front.
The question remains.. where should I spend my time?
And you the community get to make that choice.
New Poll at Rootz
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/10227-ics-booted-now-what/
My god you are amazing!
Hey hash did you get my PM? I can't post in the deveopment forum
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I don't know how good ICS is.. and also depends on how long it would take to get a functional build (everyday use). If it takes 3+ months I say finish CM7 first
I'd still like to see the LED used only for notifications. The sound, camera and 3g errors are no biggie but they're nagging imperfections in an otherwise killer ROM.
What sort of advances does ICS offer over the current Android?
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I say work on CM7 Hash, if Googlerola gets us an unlocked bootloader by 2012, ICS will be way easier to work on
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verkerria said:
I say work on CM7 Hash, if Googlerola gets us an unlocked bootloader by 2012, ICS will be way easier to work on
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to me its looking like verizon isnt going to unlock our bootloaders ever so dont let that sway your choice
Phibernaut said:
What sort of advances does ICS offer over the current Android?
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That's what I'm saying. Liberty rom and ADW launcher got me with no issues look or performance wise. Unless ICS has bigger changes than the obvious theme and performance changes. Ain't no point to me in worrying about.
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Some day....the bootloader will be unlocked. That day...will be when nobody cares about this phone anymore...unfortunately
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tacosrdelicioso said:
Some day....the bootloader will be unlocked. That day...will be when nobody cares about this phone anymore...unfortunately
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the D4 is coming out, people barely adopted this one. people already don't care about this phone.
I would much rather you rebuild safestrap to make 2nd system on SD Card.
tacosrdelicioso said:
Some day....the bootloader will be unlocked. That day...will be when nobody cares about this phone anymore...unfortunately
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If it were up to Motorola only, they would probably unlock the bootloader, but Verizon has the final say.
I would love to see ICS for the Droid 3, I imagine we will see a Motorola issued update sometime next year, it would be nice if they didn't use Motoblur with ICS but I'm not getting my hopes up.
I would love to have unmolested ICS on my phone. I don't like much of Blur.
Hashcode you are our Droid3-God Thanks!
I love the task-app of Blur and that everything is black on white.
thank y for your hard working !
I know chevycam and i'm sure other developers are waiting for a working CM version to use as a base for their own roms. Plus getting the drivers and other assorted bugs worked out now on 7 should help when CM9 comes out later.
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I know chevycam and i'm sure other developers are waiting for a working CM version to use as a base for their own roms. Plus getting the drivers and other assorted bugs worked out now on 7 should help when CM9 comes out later.
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GB is a year old, we need to move on. I've had GB since the first Droid OG port.
Stay on the cutting edge, Hashcode! Thanks for your work!
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CM7 for sure. It will make CM9 easy. Then, we can also have MIUI and other AOSP based ROMs. It might not even be possible to get ICS working completely without a new kernel. But it is definitely possible to finish CM7. It's a waste of time to work on ICS now.
Not necessarily GoogleAndroid. Remember that he would have to make everything work since the code base for ICS is a huge change from the code base for GB. I would think that would be the case unless the CM team takes care of that.
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What do you think odds are that you will have ics up on the droid 3 before motorola releases it for the bionic(would be jokes but I bet odds are super good)? Would the bionic ics source speed up your port to droid 3 or make it more stable? I guess I could think of a list of questions as a noob but honestly, the main would be which makes most sense to you? That's the box I would check in the poll.
Hey guy,
I picked up the Atrix HD yesterday and so far I'm loving it but I was wondering if anyone has thought of a way to root this bad boy?
Thanks in advance
Adam
AdamsBig said:
Hey guy,
I picked up the Atrix HD yesterday and so far I'm loving it but I was wondering if anyone has thought of a way to root this bad boy?
Thanks in advance
Adam
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I did the same, but it is FAR too early to expect anything.Since it has a locked bootloader, it'll probably take a while (similar to previous versions of the atrix) and I'm sure once Moto releases their webkit to unlock the bootloader the floodgates will open, but hopefully someone will step up and prove me wrong
I tried all the obvious root methods with no luck. There is no similar phone to the AHD yet, so nobody's attempted root on similar hardware.
bimmerd00d said:
I tried all the obvious root methods with no luck. There is no similar phone to the AHD yet, so nobody's attempted root on similar hardware.
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Has anyone tried the root method for RAZR ICS / Droid4 ICS?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1707214
Let me know if it works.
Once you guys get this, I really hope someone can pull that clock/weather/battery widget. I want it really bad. I also hope it doesn't rely on the framework of the phone
danifunker said:
Has anyone tried the root method for RAZR ICS / Droid4 ICS?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1707214
Let me know if it works.
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I tried and couldn't get it to work.
bimmerd00d said:
I tried and couldn't get it to work.
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Hmm, it's a snapdragon S4 processor... What other phones have the same processor in there? You might be able to find some leads on that...
I was initially interested in getting my hands on the radio, but I think it's a completely different architecture than most of the other Motorola phones (most of the ones I know are TI OMAP), so you might need something different...
danifunker said:
Hmm, it's a snapdragon S4 processor... What other phones have the same processor in there? You might be able to find some leads on that...
I was initially interested in getting my hands on the radio, but I think it's a completely different architecture than most of the other Motorola phones (most of the ones I know are TI OMAP), so you might need something different...
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I had the same thought, galaxy s3 uses an Odin root, and the HTC one x root method didn't work either.
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My skyrocket has an s4 processor I think and there are couple root methods for it.
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peteyc66 said:
My skyrocket has an s4 processor I think and there are couple root methods for it.
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If i'm not mistaken, the skyrocket is a Snap S3 processor. Also, it's an Odin root much like the S3 as well i think.
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3364
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My skyrocket has an s4 processor I think and there are couple root methods for it.
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Skyrocket has a S3.
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I am honestly surprised NO ONE has found a root method yet.
Phones have been rooted days after they come out. I guess development on this phone is going to be painfully slow.
Kedakari said:
I am honestly surprised NO ONE has found a root method yet.
Phones have been rooted days after they come out. I guess development on this phone is going to be painfully slow.
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The boot loader is locked until Web kit is released by moto, why put extra effort into it than you have to? It'll come when it comes.
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DISTRAUGHTKLOWNZ said:
The boot loader is locked until Web kit is released by moto, why put extra effort into it than you have to? It'll come when it comes.
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True but the Artix and Atrix 2 had locked boot loaders and we rooted them. I agree it will come when it comes but I will keep trying till either I get it or someone else releases a way. :good:
DISTRAUGHTKLOWNZ said:
The boot loader is locked until Web kit is released by moto, why put extra effort into it than you have to? It'll come when it comes.
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Atrix 2 still has a locked bootloader. It's been rooted, I've even had CWM work on boot. The only thing we were not able to do was get a kernel so we could get radios working under ICS.
There is hardly any extra effort when I want more access over my file system.
The_new_user said:
True but the Artix and Atrix 2 had locked boot loaders and we rooted them. I agree it will come when it comes but I will keep trying till either I get it or someone else releases a way. :good:
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I can hardly wait. I miss CyanogenMod and I hope the web kit rolls out soon so we can start unlocking the potential behind these motorola phones.
Kedakari said:
Atrix 2 still has a locked bootloader. It's been rooted, I've even had CWM work on boot. The only thing we were not able to do was get a kernel so we could get radios working under ICS.
There is hardly any extra effort when I want more access over my file system.
I can hardly wait. I miss CyanogenMod and I hope the web kit rolls out soon so we can start unlocking the potential behind these motorola phones.
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Agreed, about root, that won't take very long at all i don't think. my comment was specifically about development being slow for this phone. We'll see theme packages before we see any real development because of the bootloader thing. Work smarter not harder and all.
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DISTRAUGHTKLOWNZ said:
Agreed, about root, that won't take very long at all i don't think. my comment was specifically about development being slow for this phone. We'll see theme packages before we see any real development because of the bootloader thing. Work smarter not harder and all.
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I'm just interested in why we haven't got root like most other phones. I mean, the HTC One X hasn't been out long before they had a toolkit out for it.
I think they even had root for the Droid 4 the day before it was released. SGS3 came out and people are already making JB ports.
Now the Atrix HD comes around and poof... nothing? If I had been more technically inclined, or knew where to start, I would have made a root method myself.
It shouldnt be so hard, whats stopping us? (besides a few people just waiting for the web kit)
...and if no one else is up to it, where do I start?
Kedakari said:
I'm just interested in why we haven't got root like most other phones. I mean, the HTC One X hasn't been out long before they had a toolkit out for it.
I think they even had root for the Droid 4 the day before it was released. SGS3 came out and people are already making JB ports.
Now the Atrix HD comes around and poof... nothing? If I had been more technically inclined, or knew where to start, I would have made a root method myself.
It shouldnt be so hard, whats stopping us? (besides a few people just waiting for the web kit)
...and if no one else is up to it, where do I start?
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I have been wondering the same thing now. If I knew where to start also I would try coming up with a method
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Flagship phones get dev attention faster. Im pretty sure its the encrypted bootloader thing that's holding it up
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colts187 said:
Flagship phones get dev attention faster. Im pretty sure its the encrypted bootloader thing that's holding it up
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Not really.
If you go check the other thread we've tried over 7 methods.
Motorola patch the /system/, /data/local/, and all the system blocks.
We can push files into /data/tmp/ but we cant write to mmcblk0p36 with debugfs
It simply wont give us permission.
With an unlocked bootloader, yes for sure we can get root. At that point it'd be less of a concern to get root because we'd be able to do so much more.
I even tried zergRush exploit used by most Snapdragon S4 phones with no luck.
Again we ran into problems with permissions to write or mount /system/
chmod wont do anything either.
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The most interesting part of this for me was the upgrade promise... "If your device cannot be updated because it degrades the user's experience, Motorola will give you $100 to purchase one of their newer devices"...
Which do you think we'll get?
I chose the red pill... Now I'm in the mAtrix and I know Kung Fu... in HD!
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This phone will get JB.
It's up to AT&T, for me at least, to release it promptly.
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Update soak sent out today, not jb but everything is much smoother...not much lag if any anymore.
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Haven't gotten my update yet... dang.
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Any way to get this update on the unlocked Atrix HD? When I try to initiate update it prompts me to create Motorola account and then just hand when "trying to connect to server". I am using this phone on T-mobile.
dumon said:
Any way to get this update on the unlocked Atrix HD? When I try to initiate update it prompts me to create Motorola account and then just hand when "trying to connect to server". I am using this phone on T-mobile.
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See: ATRIX HD kernel changer in original Android development section... it's for AT&T phones, so no promises it won't screw something up, although it shouldn't.
EDIT: After a second look, it looks like it will only update the kernel, but not the system. :/
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Jellybean. Not $100.
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Update soak sent out today, not jb but everything is much smoother...not much lag if any anymore.
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Nice! Hopefully the soak will go out to everyone else in a few days as it did back when the Atrix 2 got its own bug fix update within 3 days of the soak test having started.
No real issues were reported so I'm sure itll roll our soon enough.
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davezaff said:
Update soak sent out today, not jb but everything is much smoother...not much lag if any anymore.
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Whats a soak?
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Whats a soak?
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Soak tests are kind of a test phase for updates that may (or may not, depending on bug reports) be sent out OTA for everyone else. A few (hundred) people sign up to get the pre-release, and report bugs if any. If very few, or no bugs are reported, the software update is pushed to all users of the device.
My tab's Flyer than yours (unless this is posted in a Flyer thread... Then it's just as Flyer...)
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Soak tests are pre release tests of future official software updates.
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Soak tests often end up being the final release that goes out over the air, so I like to think of them as release candidate testing.
The current update soak is limited to specific IMEI numbers for people who signed up and were selected to test and provide feedback to Motorola.
Is it still possible to sign up to be a tester? I somehow got into the samsung dev channel when I was researching phones but that doesn't do me any good now...
Also I would bet we see Jellybean before most other phones, but as it's focused more twards tablets it might be a while. Still nice to see updates coming via the soaks though so maybe they are more on the ball than most so maybe this year. But then again AT&T has to have their hand in it too...
I'm sure well get JB. Problem is I'm sure we wouldn't see it for at least a year or so....
I'm for one hoping you guys get jellybean but wouldn't hold your breath with anything Motorola says after what they did to us og Atrix users. Just wrong.
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I'm for one hoping you guys get jellybean but wouldn't hold your breath with anything Motorola says after what they did to us og Atrix users. Just wrong.
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From what I am hearing, the OG Atrix has issues with the specific NVidia chipset. NVidia is not providing ICS compatible drivers. (hence when there are issues with ICS/JB even with the Cyanogenmod build for OG Atrix)
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From what I am hearing, the OG Atrix has issues with the specific NVidia chipset. NVidia is not providing ICS compatible drivers. (hence when there are issues with ICS/JB even with the Cyanogenmod build for OG Atrix)
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I'd find that suspect as the Motorola Xoom uses the same Tegra2 chipset as the original Atrix.
Sorry to get off topic.
turboman93 said:
I'd find that suspect as the Motorola Xoom uses the same Tegra2 chipset as the original Atrix.
Sorry to get off topic.
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That actually isn't true. The Atrix used the AP20H variant while the Xoom used T20. Different types of Tegra 2.