http://androinica.com/2012/09/motor...ers/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
The most interesting part of this for me was the upgrade promise... "If your device cannot be updated because it degrades the user's experience, Motorola will give you $100 to purchase one of their newer devices"...
Which do you think we'll get?
I chose the red pill... Now I'm in the mAtrix and I know Kung Fu... in HD!
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This phone will get JB.
It's up to AT&T, for me at least, to release it promptly.
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Update soak sent out today, not jb but everything is much smoother...not much lag if any anymore.
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Haven't gotten my update yet... dang.
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Any way to get this update on the unlocked Atrix HD? When I try to initiate update it prompts me to create Motorola account and then just hand when "trying to connect to server". I am using this phone on T-mobile.
dumon said:
Any way to get this update on the unlocked Atrix HD? When I try to initiate update it prompts me to create Motorola account and then just hand when "trying to connect to server". I am using this phone on T-mobile.
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See: ATRIX HD kernel changer in original Android development section... it's for AT&T phones, so no promises it won't screw something up, although it shouldn't.
EDIT: After a second look, it looks like it will only update the kernel, but not the system. :/
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Jellybean. Not $100.
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Update soak sent out today, not jb but everything is much smoother...not much lag if any anymore.
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Nice! Hopefully the soak will go out to everyone else in a few days as it did back when the Atrix 2 got its own bug fix update within 3 days of the soak test having started.
No real issues were reported so I'm sure itll roll our soon enough.
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Update soak sent out today, not jb but everything is much smoother...not much lag if any anymore.
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Whats a soak?
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Whats a soak?
Sent from my phone.
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Soak tests are kind of a test phase for updates that may (or may not, depending on bug reports) be sent out OTA for everyone else. A few (hundred) people sign up to get the pre-release, and report bugs if any. If very few, or no bugs are reported, the software update is pushed to all users of the device.
My tab's Flyer than yours (unless this is posted in a Flyer thread... Then it's just as Flyer...)
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Soak tests are pre release tests of future official software updates.
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Soak tests often end up being the final release that goes out over the air, so I like to think of them as release candidate testing.
The current update soak is limited to specific IMEI numbers for people who signed up and were selected to test and provide feedback to Motorola.
Is it still possible to sign up to be a tester? I somehow got into the samsung dev channel when I was researching phones but that doesn't do me any good now...
Also I would bet we see Jellybean before most other phones, but as it's focused more twards tablets it might be a while. Still nice to see updates coming via the soaks though so maybe they are more on the ball than most so maybe this year. But then again AT&T has to have their hand in it too...
I'm sure well get JB. Problem is I'm sure we wouldn't see it for at least a year or so....
I'm for one hoping you guys get jellybean but wouldn't hold your breath with anything Motorola says after what they did to us og Atrix users. Just wrong.
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I'm for one hoping you guys get jellybean but wouldn't hold your breath with anything Motorola says after what they did to us og Atrix users. Just wrong.
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From what I am hearing, the OG Atrix has issues with the specific NVidia chipset. NVidia is not providing ICS compatible drivers. (hence when there are issues with ICS/JB even with the Cyanogenmod build for OG Atrix)
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From what I am hearing, the OG Atrix has issues with the specific NVidia chipset. NVidia is not providing ICS compatible drivers. (hence when there are issues with ICS/JB even with the Cyanogenmod build for OG Atrix)
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I'd find that suspect as the Motorola Xoom uses the same Tegra2 chipset as the original Atrix.
Sorry to get off topic.
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I'd find that suspect as the Motorola Xoom uses the same Tegra2 chipset as the original Atrix.
Sorry to get off topic.
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That actually isn't true. The Atrix used the AP20H variant while the Xoom used T20. Different types of Tegra 2.
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Judging by what I'm seeing on some of the forums, it seems as though people are upgrading officially through the System Update option. However, mine continues to tell me that I'm up to date. Could someone advise me on the status of the OTA?
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As of right now its still telling me I am up to date through system update as well.
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I'm not sure it's been officially released yet, people just got info from here showing that apparently the official version and the leaked version are the same number. I can't verify this as I haven't updated or checked the versions myself, and some folks said the official release might have some other changes included so I'm still waiting. I don't want to get stuck and miss out on something.
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Judging by what I'm seeing on some of the forums, it seems as though people are upgrading officially through the System Update option. However, mine continues to tell me that I'm up to date. Could someone advise me on the status of the OTA?
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From the Motorola web site my understanding is the only OTA update was for special test phones. The soak test hasn't started or you would have seen it posted on Droid-Life as they usually have it as soon as the email has been sent out.
I read there was a problem with the D2G Exchange encryption or something and maybe that is either using resources or the D3 has the same problem. Don't know but I'm guessing something is up or it would have been out by now.
I'm not updating my phone until the official version is out.
I appreciate the response everyone. I, as well, would like to wait for the official release rather than be hasty and install the leak.
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I appreciate the response everyone. I, as well, would like to wait for the official release rather than be hasty and install the leak.
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$5 says the leak will be the exact same as the "official" OTA. I installed it the first day it was posted. XD
where can you find the leak?
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where can you find the leak?
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http://goo.gl/7NoAv
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Does anyone know if the leak fixes the data roaming problem? My co-worker got his Droid 3 today but cannot use data since we live in an extended network. Bummer for him, but I'm trying to help fix his problem if I can.
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Does anyone know if the leak fixes the data roaming problem? My co-worker got his Droid 3 today but cannot use data since we live in an extended network. Bummer for him, but I'm trying to help fix his problem if I can.
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Should be able to turn it on in settings. That is what I did. The setting did take a few times for it to stay active, but not had to reactivate the setting in a few weeks.
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=57374053&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-266
Blame the hardware. How about blame the developers on their end!
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I don't reckon most Droid 3 owners give a **** about ICS on their phones, nor do they have any clue what it even is. That is a shame though, because for Android enthusiasts like us, it is a big deal, especially when we are running ICS on it already and it makes MotoBlur look like the old LG Env interface.
Most people don't root, and Verizon isn't going to promote an OS version over a new handset. I love my D3, but it's utter nonsense that it won't get official ICS just months after Google called the version the great unifier that can and will run on every phone.
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I'm still running the alpha 6 and all seriousness if it weren't for a few things I would swear it was better than alpha. If motorola only knew what a pure ics experience was like on their hardware they could easily bury samsung and the crap nexus they released.
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http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=57374053&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-266
Blame the hardware. How about blame the developers on their end!
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I compared the hardware specs between XT860 and Galaxy Nexus and the only differences I really saw was that we only have 512mb ram. Same GPU almost the same CPU, I think moto is buying time so Goog can save them
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Most people don't root, and Verizon isn't going to promote an OS version over a new handset. I love my D3, but it's utter nonsense that it won't get official ICS just months after Google called the version the great unifier that can and will run on every phone.
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Moto still has not confirmed that the D3 is not getting ICS. As the DX and D2 both received GB well after they were no longer being sold, I think it's a good possibility that it will. We'll see, though.
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Moto still has not confirmed that the D3 is not getting ICS. As the DX and D2 both received GB well after they were no longer being sold, I think it's a good possibility that it will. We'll see, though.
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I think hashcode will get us ics long before moto does
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He already has. And Beta is right around the corner.
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How about unlocking the damn boot loaders and let us decide what is on our phone
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Well, that too.
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How about unlocking the damn boot loaders and let us decide what is on our phone
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I doubt that we will ever see bootloaders unlocked on our current phones. I suspect that it could not be done without sending the phones back to Motorola and having them replace the "one time" programmable firmware. Why else would having a Dev Razr be useless for unlocking other Razrs. I think the only way we would ever be able to put anything we wanted on these phones would be if Moto released their encrypted key so that the phone would accept it. FAT chance of that happening, but I bet that hasn't crossed anyone's mind at Moto. Maybe we could suggest that to them.
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The main bootloader unlock change.org page is over 7500 signed. Its got to mean something.
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Here's some good news though
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/0...n-of-motorola-to-clear-as-early-as-next-week/ Hopefully this will get something done and some good progress made.
nice!
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Good. Motorola actually has some nice hardware now but they suck with software it seems.
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The main bootloader unlock change.org page is over 7500 signed. Its got to mean something.
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OK, can someone answer a possibly dumb question for me? I've spent the last year happily rooting my original Droid and running custom roms - finally settling on Cyanogen Mod. Now, I'm no expert but I've found it pretty easy to do by just following the instructions that are available many places online. I now have my Droid 3 and so far am just running it stock - waiting for CM9 to get to a release version.
So, from the discussion I'm assuming that rooting the Device and loading Cyanogen is somehow something less than "unlocking the boot loader". But if it is, does that matter? Whatever that actually means it doesn't seem to be preventing anyone from running custom ROM's - or am I missing something?
Reminds me of h4ck1ng t3h g1b50n
Hack the planet!
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OK, can someone answer a possibly dumb question for me? I've spent the last year happily rooting my original Droid and running custom roms - finally settling on Cyanogen Mod. Now, I'm no expert but I've found it pretty easy to do by just following the instructions that are available many places online. I now have my Droid 3 and so far am just running it stock - waiting for CM9 to get to a release version.
So, from the discussion I'm assuming that rooting the Device and loading Cyanogen is somehow something less than "unlocking the boot loader". But if it is, does that matter? Whatever that actually means it doesn't seem to be preventing anyone from running custom ROM's - or am I missing something?
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With a locked bootloader we ca still run custom roms thanks to tricky devs but no custom kernels
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With a locked bootloader we ca still run custom roms thanks to tricky devs but no custom kernels
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But I used to run custom kernels on my Droid 1 too. I was running CM7.1 with a Chevy#1 (think that's what it was) kernel which was what let me use Set CPU to overclock. Is that not loading a "custom kernel"? Or was the boot loader unlocked on my Droid 2?
I'm not criticizing or saying anyone else is wrong - I'm just trying to understand what the differences are between what I have been doing and having a true "unlocked boot loader". What are the things that would allow me to do that can't be done now?
droid 1 is the only true unlocked bootloader moto phone with the exception of the atrix, which was accomplished with many many hours of work.
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http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/12/05/22/1343208/google-finalizes-acquisition-of-motorola-mobility
Now that our beloved overlords own our beloved hardware...what changes do you think may be in store?
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I hope unlocked bootloaders but somehow my feeling says nothing will happen at all
They keep insisting that they will run Motorola hands-off - but they did put a Google person in charge.
I suspect that they will try to get things running well and then try to either sell it off or roll it out as its own company. I think that all that they really wanted was the patents and perhaps Motorola's TV set-top box expertise for Google TV. I guess we'll see when we'll see.
My guess is that they have a contract with Verizon to keep the bootloaders locked for any device sold by Verizon. Again, I guess we'll see.
Maybe Google can show Motorola how to port ICS to a device with 512MB of RAM like they did with the Nexus S.
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Maybe Google can show Motorola how to port ICS to a device with 512MB of RAM like they did with the Nexus S.
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Not
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jediman said:
http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/12/05/22/1343208/google-finalizes-acquisition-of-motorola-mobility
Now that our beloved overlords own our beloved hardware...what changes do you think may be in store?
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You mean besides them rolling on the floor laughing at us?
Probably not much
Official ICS where are you????? Still Waiting u come to my lovely bionic, oooh bionic...where's your official ICS?
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My opinion is that official talk about giving more consideration to Bionic owners is mostly talk. Sure ICS will roll out someday, but what about JB?
One step at a time.
ronaldheld said:
My opinion is that official talk about giving more consideration to Bionic owners is mostly talk. Sure ICS will roll out someday, but what about JB?
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Dont talk about JB first i think, ICS still not roll out till this time. Its my opinion
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We're in line after the atrix 2. That started ota today. So now anywhere from a week to three weeks and we'll get our ota. JB is being worked on already and it will be an update to the ota ics build.
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SamuriHL said:
We're in line after the atrix 2. That started ota today. So now anywhere from a week to three weeks and we'll get our ota. JB is being worked on already and it will be an update to the ota ics build.
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If after that, bionic still doesnt get an ota ics update, bionic users will sell this fantastic phone because the developers of motorola cant make the best ics for its own phone IMHO
#JB is Still like a dream
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I have to disagree. Moto put in a LOT of wrench time on ICS for Bionic. It's the BEST ICS build out there for any Moto phone IMO. 11 builds to get it right for us.
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I have to disagree. Moto put in a LOT of wrench time on ICS for Bionic. It's the BEST ICS build out there for any Moto phone IMO. 11 builds to get it right for us.
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.247 is on QA1, QA2 and Staging SDC200 and SDC100... I think it's coming along
I'm willing to bet it is the final version.
Once it hits qa4 it's time to celebrate.
I wouldn't get your guy's hopes up too high, given what has happened with the photon/Atrix.
But with any luck since you guys are on the big red, moto will throw at least someone a bone
That situation was just stupid. Moto should perhaps be a little more careful. That's all I'm gonna say about that. Doesn't affect the Bionic in any way.
Former Bionic owner here--I just received an email from Motorola with a soak test invite for the Bionic.
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Confirmed the soak test has started. About damn time.
when they say you have to be stock and not rooted, will that really fail the update? if the ICS build is later than the current ICS build you're running (.232) do I really have to go back to GB or should it update? I'm also planning on pulling the /cache incase it doesn't work 1st time
Updates are designed to *UPDATE* one build and one build only. If you are not on 905, your phone won't even see it on the update server, let alone install it. Rooted doesn't matter.
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Updates are designed to *UPDATE* one build and one build only. If you are not on 905, your phone won't even see it on the update server, let alone install it. Rooted doesn't matter.
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Thanks, guess I'll have to revert.
when ics is officially released, i hope we can get the fastboot files (fxz)
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when ics is officially released, i hope we can get the fastboot files (fxz)
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I'm on top of that. Don't worry about it.
Oooh it will be released soon, right?
This october, or this week?:thumbup:
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I wouldn't get your guy's hopes up too high, given what has happened with the photon/Atrix.
But with any luck since you guys are on the big red, moto will throw at least someone a bone
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Our hopes are justified. Why would Moto have this many ICS builds cooking up just to scrap it all?
The Photon never even got an ICS build. Motorola said to abandon hope on it. It didn't even get a leak. However, someone found a leak for the Atrix. Who knows if that'll ever see the light of day? What's even more puzzling is that the Atrix/Photon are both Tegra2 devices.
The best and brightest Android devs have picked apart these Bionic ICS leaks and, not only are these leaks legit but they indicate a Jellybean release is being worked on too. The Bionic will get what it deserves, for once.
In the official capacity we are now last. Right on schedule VZW.
I bet just to troll us, they announce it tomorrow but the release will be at the end of the month :laugh:
Not sure why everyone is all fired up about it. Not like 4.4 is much different than 4.2
They didn't even give us art.
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Lawlrus said:
Not sure why everyone is all fired up about it. Not like 4.4 is much different than 4.2
They didn't even give us art.
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Art isn't even ready for prime time .... it's about all the under the hood stuff kit kat brings.
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Art isn't even ready for prime time .... it's about all the under the hood stuff kit kat brings.
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Such as? Maybe I'm ignorant and the signs are right in front of me, but I haven't seen anything that makes me excited to receive it.
I'm aware once the radio sources are dropped and they are put to work a bit then the sod and random reboot issues should be taken care of, but that's about all I've seen being said.
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Lawlrus said:
Not sure why everyone is all fired up about it. Not like 4.4 is much different than 4.2
They didn't even give us art.
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Have you ran the "leaked" VZW KK build?
Kitkat is a whole different world,Completely Night and Day. Amazingly smooth, its lightening fast and extremely stable.
Art or not, this is a legitimate huge performance step forward.
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Have you ran the "leaked" VZW KK build?
Kitkat is a whole different world,Completely Night and Day. Amazingly smooth, its lightening fast and extremely stable.
Art or not, this is a legitimate huge performance step forward.
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Nah, I haven't played around with it yet. Honestly Ive never had any issues with the stock speed. Once animations are turned off.
Guess its one of those gotta try it to understand it thing. Coming from my last phone being the first gen droid RAZR, I've never sat back and wished my g2 had more speed.
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Nah, I haven't played around with it yet. Honestly Ive never had any issues with the stock speed. Once animations are turned off.
Guess its one of those gotta try it to understand it thing. Coming from my last phone being the first gen droid RAZR, I've never sat back and wished my g2 had more speed.
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its alot nicer for animations, snappier, the whole kitkat look to the notification bar, fine tuning under the hood, tap and pay, cloud printing. give it a go
We probably won't see an update till after the g3 and s5 are released.
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I suspected qtr1 was out of the picture when the drop date of the m8 was announced. Vzw doesn't like to have anything current impede the new baby.
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Yeah I said that on another site and someone said updates don't affect phone sales... when the average consumer doesn't know of updates and Verizon and OEMs market "latest android software" many people will want it.
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HTC one Max on verizon got updated and yet we're still waiting. :banghead:
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It's so......awesome that the phone that was never displayed in a store gets the latest update. How can anyone want the g3 when LG cares little to get phones updated.
Htc obviously did something to convince VZW to update their stuff yet the g flex is rocking 4.2.2 and the same with ours.
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It's so......awesome that the phone that was never displayed in a store gets the latest update. How can anyone want the g3 when LG cares little to get phones updated.
Htc obviously did something to convince VZW to update their stuff yet the g flex is rocking 4.2.2 and the same with ours.
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I don't think it's LG in this instance. I think it's Verizon, and I think it has more to do with the m8 launch than it does with whether or not the update is ready. They don't like to have anything mess with the new revenue stream.
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I don't think it's LG in this instance. I think it's Verizon, and I think it has more to do with the m8 launch than it does with whether or not the update is ready. They don't like to have anything mess with the new revenue stream.
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Agreed... Think about it: would the company make more money by keeping everyone's android system slick and up-to-date, or by enticing those with outdated devices to pine over the newest phone, with the NEWEST OS? Having worked customer service for a VZW contractor in the past, I personally know that making their customers happy (with no direct profit) is at the bottom of their list.
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Such as? Maybe I'm ignorant and the signs are right in front of me, but I haven't seen anything that makes me excited to receive it.
I'm aware once the radio sources are dropped and they are put to work a bit then the sod and random reboot issues should be taken care of, but that's about all I've seen being said.
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Not sure why everyone is all fired up about it. Not like 4.4 is much different than 4.2
They didn't even give us art.
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Bluetooth LTE will be nice to have. I've been waiting for it so I can connect to my Garmin watch and do live tracking. I need at least Android 4.3 to do this. (which VZW skipped )
I can't believe Verizon still hasn't pushed 4.4 update,this is ridiculous :banghead:
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I've given up hope. Its the usual state of mind one arrives at when dealing with VZW. You go though denial, anger and rage (quite a lot of rage) before reaching acceptance
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I've given up hope. Its the usual state of mind one arrives at when dealing with VZW. You go though denial, anger and rage (quite a lot of rage) before reaching acceptance
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You are not far off the mark. It is also possible that they are not going to update the phone to 4.4.2. Just because LG stated they would be for all variants does not mean Verizon will do it. I came from an LG revolution which at point LG said would get ICS, needless to say that phone is still only running 2.3.6. We guessed that VZW cancelled the update. LG support stated that it was working on a upgrade and that it was in testing and then nothing...
I hope I am not reliving things again. If I am, at least the base phone and stock OS are really good.
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You are not far off the mark. It is also possible that they are not going to update the phone to 4.4.2. Just because LG stated they would be for all variants does not mean Verizon will do it. I came from an LG revolution which at point LG said would get ICS, needless to say that phone is still only running 2.3.6. We guessed that VZW cancelled the update. LG support stated that it was working on a upgrade and that it was in testing and then nothing...
I hope I am not reliving things again. If I am, at least the base phone and stock OS are really good.
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I don't think so because there's already a stock leak build that works 100 percent. I think they're just waiting and they're gonna merge the knock code in and release it as one build rather than releasing 2 separate ones
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