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So i thought MOTO decided to unlock their new phones? Why is the 3 so F'N locked up???
Sorry MODS...i thought i was in general forum...could you please move?
I've got a dinc2 on the way for my wife and I'm really considering giving her my d3 and taking the dinc2. The really liking how sense 3.0 looks and the dinc2 just got unlocked and rooted.!
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Sorry MODS...i thought i was in general forum...could you please move?
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Haha, my heart skipped a few beats there when I read the title. Damn it
Moto shipped the D3 with a locked bootloader, but they will unlock later this year (supposedly).
Plus, per their quote from another Engadget article
We completely understand the operator requirement for security to the end user, and as well, want to support the developer communities desire to use these products as a development platform. It is our intention to enable the unlockable/relockable bootloader currently found on Motorola XOOM across our portfolio of devices starting in late 2011, where carriers and operators will allow it
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...starting in late 2011, where carriers and operators will allow it.
Motorola will make the first move with the bootloaders, then Verizon (or whoever else) will make theirs. Dunno how long between Motorola and us getting the unlock, but they can delay the process
Lol you got me there
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For the love of God, change the OP title.
I feel a little left out in the dark. Droid 3 has been out longer and it seems there has been literally zero movement on it. Sucks living in an area with the only available carriers being Verizon and AT&T.
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I feel a little left out in the dark. Droid 3 has been out longer and it seems there has been literally zero movement on it. Sucks living in an area with the only available carriers being Verizon and AT&T.
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It's a locked bootloader running 2.3.4 which is extremely tough to crack. Plus you add in the fact that every single known exploit is blocked, that's the development delay.
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Moderators, please rename this thread, the subject is very misleading. OP doesn't seem to care.
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I doubt we'll see the bootloader unlocked. Look at HTC even. They've released their list of devices they'll be allowing the web-based unlock to happen with and it's over a dozen deep with not a single Verizon device on the list. It's Verizon that doesn't want us to have the unlock, not Motorola.
If Motorola really wanted us to have an unlock they would leak it. Maybe Googlorola will instead?
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Androidsims said:
If Motorola really wanted us to have an unlock they would leak it. Maybe Googlorola will instead?
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I prefer motoogle
elkay said:
I doubt we'll see the bootloader unlocked. Look at HTC even. They've released their list of devices they'll be allowing the web-based unlock to happen with and it's over a dozen deep with not a single Verizon device on the list. It's Verizon that doesn't want us to have the unlock, not Motorola.
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That sucks. I was worried that was the case and it most likely is. Anybody know if AT&T has anything that is unlockable? Its my only other choice for a carrier.
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If Motorola really wanted us to have an unlock they would leak it. Maybe Googlorola will instead?
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Motorola probably has a contract with Verizon that they will not unlock the phones without their permission first, which they would be breaching and surely be sued for if they simply just went ahead and did it.
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That sucks. I was worried that was the case and it most likely is. Anybody know if AT&T has anything that is unlockable? Its my only other choice for a carrier.
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The Atrix bootloader can be unlocked. It might void some or all of your warranty, but it can be unlocked.
Please! Just got me for the second time.
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Moderators, please rename this thread, the subject is very misleading. OP doesn't seem to care.
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dtdlurch said:
Please! Just got me for the second time.
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Try reading.. Only thing that needs to be changed is the exclamation point to a question mark and it couldn't get any clearer.
Hey guys, I was planning on going to Verizon from T-Mo.
I was looking at the DX2/D3 and I was wondering why there are no ROMs?
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Hey guys, I was planning on going to Verizon from T-Mo.
I was looking at the DX2/D3 and I was wondering why there are no ROMs?
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We don't have root yet.
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Any ETA on when there should be a root?
No realistic way to give an ETA. A lot of determined people are working on it, it'll happen. It'd be worth the switch from tmo to verizon regardless.
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We also don't have a unlocked bootloader yet, which cripples ROM development.
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We also don't have a unlocked bootloader yet, which cripples ROM development.
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that hasn't stopped the X2
If I were you and I was looking only for nice phones, id stay on tmob. G2x,sensation, mt4gs, all better phones then what we hav on vz.
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royolpunk said:
If I were you and I was looking only for nice phones, id stay on tmob. G2x,sensation, mt4gs, all better phones then what we hav on vz.
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You obviously must be on drugs or are drunk.
@atquick
lol have to agree with you there...
Eh, the Sensation is certainly better then what's currently available from VZW.
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You obviously must be on drugs or are drunk.
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Your the one who's drunk, our devices are locked down idgaf about lte because our rils are messed up.
Who's drunk now, go get a fkin brain
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I don't care if they are locked down. I don't need it to love my phone.
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Your the one who's drunk, our devices are locked down idgaf about lte because our rils are messed up.
Who's drunk now, go get a fkin brain
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So, just because the phones are completely locked down and RIL's aren't perfect to your standards. Verizon has a bad selection of phones?
I'm pretty sure there are quite of few people that will argue against that very weak point.
You are expecting way too much for technology that hasn't even come close to maturing. The android operating system is only 3 years old, as far as a consumer stand point. This technology is still fairly new.
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So, just because the phones are completely locked down and RIL's aren't perfect to your standards. Verizon has a bad selection of phones?
I'm pretty sure there are quite of few people that will argue against that very weak point.
You are expecting way too much for technology that hasn't even come close to maturing. The android operating system is only 3 years old, as far as a consumer stand point. This technology is still fairly new.
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Whatever floats your boat
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So why do you have a droid 3 if verizon does not have good phones.
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So why do you have a droid 3 if verizon does not have good phones.
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Just something for him to complain about.
if you're going to flame at me might as well do it somewhere else, don't put it here. Everyone has their own fckng opinions and nobody asked for you to troll.
And how does my point have to do with technology maturing. I'm just saying that vz sucks because their devices are incredibly locked down, such as the d3 I'm on right now. Some of us don't have a choice because our company is tied down to a carrier.
So how am I complaining? The OP asked for an aanswer on why there are no ROMs ON THE DROID X2 AND THE DROID 3,WHICH ARE MOTO PHONES., not the selection of phones. T-Mo is obviously going to be a better route for you because you have more stock phones, such as the G2x or G2, as well as phones with unlocked/unlockable bootloader (Sensation) Your not going to get really far with Moto phones, which is WHAT HE IS LOOKING AT.
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since I don't like to fight, I understand where you guys are coming from. just remember everyone has their own opinions
Cmon now lets all just hug out droids and be friends lol
'hugs D3'
-smc
eh, people are like my LG Ally, terrible listeners (mic failed). So, I dumped it for my D3
Everyone should be worshiping pplude
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Blame the hardware. How about blame the developers on their end!
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I don't reckon most Droid 3 owners give a **** about ICS on their phones, nor do they have any clue what it even is. That is a shame though, because for Android enthusiasts like us, it is a big deal, especially when we are running ICS on it already and it makes MotoBlur look like the old LG Env interface.
Most people don't root, and Verizon isn't going to promote an OS version over a new handset. I love my D3, but it's utter nonsense that it won't get official ICS just months after Google called the version the great unifier that can and will run on every phone.
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I'm still running the alpha 6 and all seriousness if it weren't for a few things I would swear it was better than alpha. If motorola only knew what a pure ics experience was like on their hardware they could easily bury samsung and the crap nexus they released.
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http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=57374053&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-266
Blame the hardware. How about blame the developers on their end!
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I compared the hardware specs between XT860 and Galaxy Nexus and the only differences I really saw was that we only have 512mb ram. Same GPU almost the same CPU, I think moto is buying time so Goog can save them
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Most people don't root, and Verizon isn't going to promote an OS version over a new handset. I love my D3, but it's utter nonsense that it won't get official ICS just months after Google called the version the great unifier that can and will run on every phone.
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Moto still has not confirmed that the D3 is not getting ICS. As the DX and D2 both received GB well after they were no longer being sold, I think it's a good possibility that it will. We'll see, though.
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Moto still has not confirmed that the D3 is not getting ICS. As the DX and D2 both received GB well after they were no longer being sold, I think it's a good possibility that it will. We'll see, though.
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I think hashcode will get us ics long before moto does
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He already has. And Beta is right around the corner.
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How about unlocking the damn boot loaders and let us decide what is on our phone
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Well, that too.
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How about unlocking the damn boot loaders and let us decide what is on our phone
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I doubt that we will ever see bootloaders unlocked on our current phones. I suspect that it could not be done without sending the phones back to Motorola and having them replace the "one time" programmable firmware. Why else would having a Dev Razr be useless for unlocking other Razrs. I think the only way we would ever be able to put anything we wanted on these phones would be if Moto released their encrypted key so that the phone would accept it. FAT chance of that happening, but I bet that hasn't crossed anyone's mind at Moto. Maybe we could suggest that to them.
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The main bootloader unlock change.org page is over 7500 signed. Its got to mean something.
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Here's some good news though
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/0...n-of-motorola-to-clear-as-early-as-next-week/ Hopefully this will get something done and some good progress made.
nice!
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Good. Motorola actually has some nice hardware now but they suck with software it seems.
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The main bootloader unlock change.org page is over 7500 signed. Its got to mean something.
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OK, can someone answer a possibly dumb question for me? I've spent the last year happily rooting my original Droid and running custom roms - finally settling on Cyanogen Mod. Now, I'm no expert but I've found it pretty easy to do by just following the instructions that are available many places online. I now have my Droid 3 and so far am just running it stock - waiting for CM9 to get to a release version.
So, from the discussion I'm assuming that rooting the Device and loading Cyanogen is somehow something less than "unlocking the boot loader". But if it is, does that matter? Whatever that actually means it doesn't seem to be preventing anyone from running custom ROM's - or am I missing something?
Reminds me of h4ck1ng t3h g1b50n
Hack the planet!
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OK, can someone answer a possibly dumb question for me? I've spent the last year happily rooting my original Droid and running custom roms - finally settling on Cyanogen Mod. Now, I'm no expert but I've found it pretty easy to do by just following the instructions that are available many places online. I now have my Droid 3 and so far am just running it stock - waiting for CM9 to get to a release version.
So, from the discussion I'm assuming that rooting the Device and loading Cyanogen is somehow something less than "unlocking the boot loader". But if it is, does that matter? Whatever that actually means it doesn't seem to be preventing anyone from running custom ROM's - or am I missing something?
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With a locked bootloader we ca still run custom roms thanks to tricky devs but no custom kernels
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Endoroid said:
With a locked bootloader we ca still run custom roms thanks to tricky devs but no custom kernels
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But I used to run custom kernels on my Droid 1 too. I was running CM7.1 with a Chevy#1 (think that's what it was) kernel which was what let me use Set CPU to overclock. Is that not loading a "custom kernel"? Or was the boot loader unlocked on my Droid 2?
I'm not criticizing or saying anyone else is wrong - I'm just trying to understand what the differences are between what I have been doing and having a true "unlocked boot loader". What are the things that would allow me to do that can't be done now?
droid 1 is the only true unlocked bootloader moto phone with the exception of the atrix, which was accomplished with many many hours of work.
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http://androinica.com/2012/09/motor...ers/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
The most interesting part of this for me was the upgrade promise... "If your device cannot be updated because it degrades the user's experience, Motorola will give you $100 to purchase one of their newer devices"...
Which do you think we'll get?
I chose the red pill... Now I'm in the mAtrix and I know Kung Fu... in HD!
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This phone will get JB.
It's up to AT&T, for me at least, to release it promptly.
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Update soak sent out today, not jb but everything is much smoother...not much lag if any anymore.
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Haven't gotten my update yet... dang.
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Any way to get this update on the unlocked Atrix HD? When I try to initiate update it prompts me to create Motorola account and then just hand when "trying to connect to server". I am using this phone on T-mobile.
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Any way to get this update on the unlocked Atrix HD? When I try to initiate update it prompts me to create Motorola account and then just hand when "trying to connect to server". I am using this phone on T-mobile.
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See: ATRIX HD kernel changer in original Android development section... it's for AT&T phones, so no promises it won't screw something up, although it shouldn't.
EDIT: After a second look, it looks like it will only update the kernel, but not the system. :/
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Jellybean. Not $100.
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Update soak sent out today, not jb but everything is much smoother...not much lag if any anymore.
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Nice! Hopefully the soak will go out to everyone else in a few days as it did back when the Atrix 2 got its own bug fix update within 3 days of the soak test having started.
No real issues were reported so I'm sure itll roll our soon enough.
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Update soak sent out today, not jb but everything is much smoother...not much lag if any anymore.
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Whats a soak?
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Whats a soak?
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Soak tests are kind of a test phase for updates that may (or may not, depending on bug reports) be sent out OTA for everyone else. A few (hundred) people sign up to get the pre-release, and report bugs if any. If very few, or no bugs are reported, the software update is pushed to all users of the device.
My tab's Flyer than yours (unless this is posted in a Flyer thread... Then it's just as Flyer...)
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Soak tests are pre release tests of future official software updates.
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Soak tests often end up being the final release that goes out over the air, so I like to think of them as release candidate testing.
The current update soak is limited to specific IMEI numbers for people who signed up and were selected to test and provide feedback to Motorola.
Is it still possible to sign up to be a tester? I somehow got into the samsung dev channel when I was researching phones but that doesn't do me any good now...
Also I would bet we see Jellybean before most other phones, but as it's focused more twards tablets it might be a while. Still nice to see updates coming via the soaks though so maybe they are more on the ball than most so maybe this year. But then again AT&T has to have their hand in it too...
I'm sure well get JB. Problem is I'm sure we wouldn't see it for at least a year or so....
I'm for one hoping you guys get jellybean but wouldn't hold your breath with anything Motorola says after what they did to us og Atrix users. Just wrong.
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I'm for one hoping you guys get jellybean but wouldn't hold your breath with anything Motorola says after what they did to us og Atrix users. Just wrong.
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From what I am hearing, the OG Atrix has issues with the specific NVidia chipset. NVidia is not providing ICS compatible drivers. (hence when there are issues with ICS/JB even with the Cyanogenmod build for OG Atrix)
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From what I am hearing, the OG Atrix has issues with the specific NVidia chipset. NVidia is not providing ICS compatible drivers. (hence when there are issues with ICS/JB even with the Cyanogenmod build for OG Atrix)
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I'd find that suspect as the Motorola Xoom uses the same Tegra2 chipset as the original Atrix.
Sorry to get off topic.
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I'd find that suspect as the Motorola Xoom uses the same Tegra2 chipset as the original Atrix.
Sorry to get off topic.
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That actually isn't true. The Atrix used the AP20H variant while the Xoom used T20. Different types of Tegra 2.
So I just got this phone yesterday and I love it so far... My only question or concern is will it still get the updates as quick as the nexus... I noticed it was still on 4.2.2 and my Nexus tablet is on 4.3... That was my main selling point to buy the phone...
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So I just got this phone yesterday and I love it so far... My only question or concern is will it still get the updates as quick as the nexus... I noticed it was still on 4.2.2 and my Nexus tablet is on 4.3... That was my main selling point to buy the phone...
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Not as quick as a Nexus. No phones or tablets get updates as quick as the Nexus line.
If that was the main selling point for you, I suggest you return it and wait for the Nexus 5.
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So I just got this phone yesterday and I love it so far... My only question or concern is will it still get the updates as quick as the nexus... I noticed it was still on 4.2.2 and my Nexus tablet is on 4.3... That was my main selling point to buy the phone...
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Many people believe, since Google owns Motorola, that Motorola phone will get updates faster... Google has already stated that this is not true, they get no preferential treatment in regards to updates.
That being said, due to the limited bastardization of android on the moto x, it is fair to believe that this device has the potential to get updates quicker, whether that will play out as such, will be better known in the future.
But, the quick answer to your question is"no" this will not get updates as fast as a nexus device... Its not a nexus device. But it is understandable to believe that we will get updates more quickly than most other manufacturers devices on the market.
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Many people believe, since Google owns Motorola, that Motorola phone will get updates faster... Google has already stated that this is not true, they get no preferential treatment in regards to updates.
That being said, due to the limited bastardization of android on the moto x, it is fair to believe that this device has the potential to get updates quicker, whether that will play out as such, will be better known in the future.
But, the quick answer to your question is"no" this will not get updates as fast as a nexus device... Its not a nexus device. But it is understandable to believe that we will get updates more quickly than most other manufacturers devices on the market.
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I will be happy if we hey an update in a reasonable amount of time... I guess that's a matter of opinion on what's a reasonable amount of time... I just traded in my HTC One XL for this phone so as long as I would get the updates faster than I did on that phone I will be happy... Also I was hoping to get support for this device for a longer period of time and keep receiving the updates... I just figured since it does not have a heavy ui like sense or touch wiz I would get updates quicker and supported longer... But I'm happy with the phone so I think I'm just going to keep it...
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This is the first phone I've had that I don't want to root... I actually want the ability to get the ota updates, seems like Motorola is actively listening to consumers and pushing updates... I don't want to miss out on what they have coming. Plus, this phone is simply amazing, just the way it is.
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This is the first phone I've had that I don't want to root... I actually want the ability to get the ota updates, seems like Motorola is actively listening to consumers and pushing updates... I don't want to miss out on what they have coming. Plus, this phone is simply amazing, just the way it is.
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I completely agree...
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Just curious to see how Rogers folks without a rooted phone have received the update?looks like a rooted phone won't receive any updates from Motorola, I'm rooted with a unlocked bootloader, hope I'm wrong, guess I'll have to manually update
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I got my update this morning. Not rooted.
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I got my update this morning. Not rooted.
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So the update is for the camera? I flashed the engineering 4.3 ROM from dhacker
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I got my update this morning. Not rooted.
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Which versions?
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