There's a lot of info floating around out there so I figured I'd try to set the record straight. And I can't be the only ones with these questions, so it might be good to have the answers all in one place.
From what I understand, the root for the note 3 on other carriers is working, even though some are still listed as untested. What would happen if one was to try the procedure on the at&t variant?
Next question is more of just a general outlook for the rooting future of this device. Is it looking like its doable, a hell of a challenge, or just plain impossible?
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Plug it in and click! I'm "rooting" for you!!!!
At&t Note III...& At&t G Pro
Same goes for the Rogers Wireless SM-N900W8 version in Canada... Usually anything that works for the AT&T perks for us so I'm just waiting....
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From everything that I have read over the past couple of days AT&T has a locked bootloader. The TMobile version doesn't have one. The reason why root works for it is because it flashes a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP and then roots it from there. That is not possible with a locked bootloader. I would rather get the TMobile version of the Note 3 and just SIM unlock it and use it on AT&T but coming up with $700+ dollars is not an option for me. So I can only hope an exploit is found for the AT&T version.
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From everything that I have read over the past couple of days AT&T has a locked bootloader. The TMobile version doesn't have one. The reason why root works for it is because it flashes a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP and then roots it from there. That is not possible with a locked bootloader. I would rather get the TMobile version of the Note 3 and just SIM unlock it and use it on AT&T but coming up with $700+ dollars is not an option for me. So I can only hope an exploit is found for the AT&T version.
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There will always be a workaround. The phones only been out a little while so it's always best to wait and be patient. Yeah it sucks but early stuff can be unstable. No matter how hard it gets lock down it's not going to be "unlockable". It's just a matter of how much work it's going to take to unlock it.
Well its pretty much going 2 be a hell of a challenge. I'm coming from att Galaxy S4 & it has been crazy over there as far as this bootloader locking with att. U do have root but things haven't been easy by no means so I'm sure it'll be no easier with this device, if not more difficult. But hey I'm optimistic, if we can just get root I'll be happy...
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I find the loki recovery to be easy on the S4.. remember Sprint and Verizon also will have lock bootloaders.
I doubt the two largest networks (Vzw, AT&T) will be left in the dirt.
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YoungAceAtlanta said:
I find the loki recovery to be easy on the S4.. remember Sprint and Verizon also will have lock bootloaders.
I doubt the two largest networks (Vzw, AT&T) will be left in the dirt.
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Not with 4.3
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Everyone thought the same about the S4 with the mf3 update then it got rooted with safestrap to load roms. Everyone thought you couldn't reverse it but it is now reversible. There is even a one click app to root it. Just give it some time.
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From everything that I have read over the past couple of days AT&T has a locked bootloader. The TMobile version doesn't have one. The reason why root works for it is because it flashes a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP and then roots it from there. That is not possible with a locked bootloader. I would rather get the TMobile version of the Note 3 and just SIM unlock it and use it on AT&T but coming up with $700+ dollars is not an option for me. So I can only hope an exploit is found for the AT&T version.
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Cf-auto-root does not flash a custom recovery. It just roots.
At&t Note III...& At&t G Pro
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Read the post at the url below. It describes how to get updates from Motorola cloud servers. It might be useful in getting unlocks for other phones. Please spread the word to anyone interested in an unlock for Motorola Android phones with Blur.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1164582
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Here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1164582
Once we get root this will be huge. Until then we need to remember this trick
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you can see all the Motorola cloud stuff by going to testing and Motorola services. *#*#4636#*#* in the dialer gets you to testing. Don't know if this has any usefulness to it just thought id share.
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Not much on the dialer trick
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I hope root comes for the phone soon, the amount of VZW crap ware is crazy.
Has anyone tried z4 to see what happens?
I'm sure it doesn't work cause if its that simple we would be rooted
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all of the available root options have been tried by various members of this forum and others as well. its probably going to be a while before we get root.
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Time is what it takes, and it has to be made worthwhile for devs to spend their time on it. ICS is coming and lets face it many will be looking to that as the next great frontier.
I know from various forums that with the confirmed members who will put up enough coin a ambitious dev would get enough to easily pay for a D3.
Can the Droid 3 be used on T-Mobile if unlocked or rooted? I ask because I noticed a SIM card slot. Thanks..
So I called the number off this link below and they claim they can unlock the Droid 3 for AT&T and it would work on 3g. Also, they can do the same for T-Mobile but it would only work on Edge. Can anyone confirm this? Has anyone dealt with this site before? Thanks.
http://negrielectronics.com/motorola-xt860-droid-3-850-1900-3g-unlocked.html
so i dont know but ive been derpin around and noticed a couple things....first off apparently there is a sdk that has been updated for the droid 3 over at MOTODEV site....i was looking through some settings and enabled data encryption which required a boot into some sort of recovery where the internal disk obviously allowed -rw access inwhich i was wondering if it would be possible to dump this process through ADB (maybe find handshake)....and a simple ls command thru term reveals bloatware galore
Have we looked at te exploit that the nexus users are using? They can root 2.3.3, 2.3.4, and now 2.3.5. Seems we should use their exploit if possible
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http://forum.rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=2007
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nerdslogic said:
Have we looked at te exploit that the nexus users are using? They can root 2.3.3, 2.3.4, and now 2.3.5. Seems we should use their exploit if possible
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Unlocked bootloader makes rooting easier. What works for them (unlocked) will not work for the Droid 3 (locked bootloader).
androidowns said:
So I called the number off this link below and they claim they can unlock the Droid 3 for AT&T and it would work on 3g. Also, they can do the same for T-Mobile but it would only work on Edge. Can anyone confirm this? Has anyone dealt with this site before? Thanks.
http://negrielectronics.com/motorola-xt860-droid-3-850-1900-3g-unlocked.html
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They say it's the XT860 which is technically not the droid 3 but the non CDMA version of it being deployed by Bell Canada (which should be easy enough to unlock for AT&T and T-Mobile)
dilwaala said:
They say it's the XT860 which is technically not the droid 3 but the non CDMA version of it being deployed by Bell Canada (which should be easy enough to unlock for AT&T and T-Mobile)
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Unless it's like the D2G, in which case it's locked from AT&T-Mobile.
Protip: call VZW Global Services and tell them you're going to India (no global plans over there - you have to either not use your phone or rack up a giant bill) and ask for the SIM unlock code. Account has to be in good standing and the device has to be on your line.
If you have 6 months of good standing you can just ask for an unlock with no reason given.
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so many times devices are locked and ultimately someone finds how to unlock the bootloaders
I had a preorder to pick it up today should I bother????
root is a deal breaker for me i can live without custom roms but not root
this was ganna be my first android phone was ganna be switching from a jailbroken Iphone 4
Unlocking a bootloader is getting harder and harder now but root is still possible I went into the T Mobile forum and they already have it rooted so just be patient
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raulz28 said:
Unlocking a bootloader is getting harder and harder now but root is still possible I went into the T Mobile forum and they already have it rooted so just be patient
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Well thats because Tmobile Note 3 doesn't have a locked bootloader.
After hearing this today i am now holding off on this phone and waiting for the Nexus 5. Maybe pick this one up later on...
^^ you have nice tastes in cars babymatteo...
I'm so surprised there's still no root for the ATT s5..im losing hope
Alternative: You can buy a T-Mobile S5, sim unlock and use on AT&T. T-Mo has unlocked bootloader...I did this and it works perfectly.
judicious said:
I'm so surprised there's still no root for the ATT s5..im losing hope
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it may take some time but it will get unlocked.
roughmouth said:
it may take some time but it will get unlocked.
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See people on the Galaxy S4 that are still looking for an exploit. It's highly unlikely bootloader unlock happens. Root is quite the long-shot as well.
judicious said:
I'm so surprised there's still no root for the ATT s5..im losing hope
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I wish there was a more active way to contribute despite having no developer background.
I know I'd be more than willing to do some seriously tedious code checking among other things if i knew it would help the cause.
Maybe buy some dynamite see if i can blow off the bootloader lock.. who knows?
Root will happen. It's not a matter of if, but when.
karmuh said:
Root will happen. It's not a matter of if, but when.
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Exactly.
Personally I went for the T-Mobile version and will unlock it to use it on AT&T.
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You can buy a T-Mobile S5, sim unlock and use on AT&T. T-Mo has unlocked bootloader...I did this and it works perfectly. also.
What are my choices if I bought the att s5 can I sell it for the same price as a t-mobile s5 and just buy one or should I try to get someone to trade with me?
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LeKtRiCzzz said:
What are my choices if I bought the att s5 can I sell it for the same price as a t-mobile s5 and just buy one or should I try to get someone to trade with me?
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The T-Mobile S5 is worth more because of the unlocked bootloader. You can sell the AT&T S5 for about $550 and get a mint T-Mobile S5 for the same price if you're lucky and negotiate on Swappa. Then you'll have to unlock it for about $30. Its all worth it in my opinion.
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The thing is the T-Mobile S5 will almost always show a full signal bar. When I had the TMO S5 it would show 4-5 bars with a -100-110 dbm signal. ATT signal is much stronger and therefore it will almost always show five bars with a -90, -80-dbm signal.
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The thing is the T-Mobile S5 will almost always show a full signal bar. When I had the TMO S5 it would show 4-5 bars with a -100-110 dbm signal. ATT signal is much stronger and therefore it will almost always show five bars with a -90, -80-dbm signal.
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Great..so like the thread states what update do you have about root?
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Martinjv71 said:
Great..so like the thread states what update do you have about root?
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Absolutely nothing. I personally don't think any developers even picked up the G900A because they knew it would be locked down. My advice: gt the TMO version and unlock it.
Lol
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Gotta love the doom and gloom. I would hate to see how some of you guys would act waiting nearly half a year for an iPhone jailbreak...every single year.
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Absolutely nothing. I personally don't think any developers even picked up the G900A because they knew it would be locked down. My advice: gt the TMO version and unlock it.
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Lol...TMO...Lol..I want a phone from a company that's going be around in 5 years.
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This phone will find root.
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karmuh said:
Gotta love the doom and gloom. I would hate to see how some of you guys would act waiting nearly half a year for an iPhone jailbreak...every single year.
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Been there, done that, many times haha.
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Lol...TMO...Lol..I want a phone from a company that's going be around in 5 years.
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I can see your point on this one. If the phone is unlocked then you'd be fine. You would be getting service with AT&T, not T-Mobile or Sprint lol.
What I'm kinda worried about is that the S5 becomes a phone with wasted potential kind of like the Optimus G was due to lack of root
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You can also buy a metropcs galaxy s5 its more cheaper than the tmobile version and unlock and also you can flash the T-Mobile stock Odin and flash T-Mobile custom ROM ...
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I have never understood the mentality of "just go buy it from another carrier." Some do not have $650 just laying around to make that happen. Another thing I don't seem to understand is all the dislike of subsidiaries. I have been with AT&T for over 10 years and never had an issue. My bill does not seem to be affected when I get an upgrade either, so I don't see the logic of paying full price for a phone from another carrier and remain on another one. It would seem like I am paying more out of pocket that way.
Hey guys,
Is it possible to flash a international firmware onto an AT&T phone? If so, what's the best firmware to use? The BTU one?
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The bootloader hasn't been unlocked yet and there's no root...my guess...no...unless you want to brick it.
You can't flash anything until the bootloader is unlocked. If it even gets unlocked
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Thanks! Just trying to understand how this all works. I was able to do that on my HTC M8 so I thought I'd be able to do it on the Galaxy S6 Edge as well.
Thanks again.
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lllSpylll said:
Thanks! Just trying to understand how this all works. I was able to do that on my HTC M8 so I thought I'd be able to do it on the Galaxy S6 Edge as well.
Thanks again.
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If you like custom ROM's I'd go back to M8 or get an M9 dev edition. Going off the past Galaxy models on AT&T you are likely to never get the bootloader unlocked. Unless Samsung does something similar to what HTC did but I doubt it.
I really liked the M8 but the camera was one of the worst cameras I've had on a phone. The camera on the S6 edge is awesome and I'm happy with the phone. I may end up returning the AT&T version and getting a T-mobile or international version instead.
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lllSpylll said:
I really liked the M8 but the camera was one of the worst cameras I've had on a phone. The camera on the S6 edge is awesome and I'm happy with the phone. I may end up returning the AT&T version and getting a T-mobile or international version instead.
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A word of caution, the International versions won't support carrier aggregation or VoLTE or HD Voice...Unless you have a specific need for root, you can disable 98% of the AT&T bloat. I ended up returning my International model because of these reasons and due to the fact that the signal was noticeably worse with the international version.
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A word of caution, the International versions won't support carrier aggregation or VoLTE or HD Voice...Unless you have a specific need for root, you can disable 98% of the AT&T bloat. I ended up returning my International model because of these reasons and due to the fact that the signal was noticeably worse with the international version.
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Thanks for your input! I'm really not sure what to do. I love this phone and I want to keep it. I have disabled almost all the AT&T bloat now and it's working OK. There's some interesting stuff happening here at XDA and maybe we'll be able to unlock the bootloader on the AT&T devices like the Chinese version, so I'm at a dilemma right now. I have until May 12 to return my device so I will decide by then. Although, after what you said, I may not want to get an international version after all, especially if the signal is not as good as the AT&T version...
So...
Did you flash the international firmware to your AT&T edge? If so how'd it turn out? Do you miss those features mentioned?
Thanks in advance.
No. I don't believe it's possible to do so until the bootloader is unlocked. I'm still using the AT&T version and haven't decided to trade it for the international version yet.
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Stick with ATT
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No. I don't believe it's possible to do so until the bootloader is unlocked. I'm still using the AT&T version and haven't decided to trade it for the international version yet.
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I was about to purchase the International version but there are tons of posts
on not all of the ATT LTE bands being supported. The ATT version even has the
2 brand new bands that will be rolled out so add those 2 bands to the unsupported list.
98% of the bloat can be disabled and you will get the Voice over LTE. I cancelled my
International version and ordered the ATT version. I am not looking back.
Also if you paid full price for the the phone you will get unlock code after 60 days.
CC
has anything changed with this issue?
I'm thinking about switching to tmobile from verizon as I'm tired of them locking all there devices and you can't do what you want. Just wondering what tmobiles policy about this is. Do they also locked there devices?
thayl0 said:
I'm thinking about switching to tmobile from verizon as I'm tired of them locking all there devices and you can't do what you want. Just wondering what tmobiles policy about this is. Do they also locked there devices?
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Bootloader comes unlocked on phones on Tmobile
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Bootloader comes unlocked on phones on Tmobile
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Main reason I just made that switch.
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Same here, got tired of ATT locking my phone up so i made the switch and haven't been more happy. Tmo at best doesn't even mind the phone being unlocked and rooted, have read comments from people that have exchanged phones using warranty and didn't even bother to restore stock firmware.