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There's a lot of info floating around out there so I figured I'd try to set the record straight. And I can't be the only ones with these questions, so it might be good to have the answers all in one place.
From what I understand, the root for the note 3 on other carriers is working, even though some are still listed as untested. What would happen if one was to try the procedure on the at&t variant?
Next question is more of just a general outlook for the rooting future of this device. Is it looking like its doable, a hell of a challenge, or just plain impossible?
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Plug it in and click! I'm "rooting" for you!!!!
At&t Note III...& At&t G Pro
Same goes for the Rogers Wireless SM-N900W8 version in Canada... Usually anything that works for the AT&T perks for us so I'm just waiting....
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From everything that I have read over the past couple of days AT&T has a locked bootloader. The TMobile version doesn't have one. The reason why root works for it is because it flashes a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP and then roots it from there. That is not possible with a locked bootloader. I would rather get the TMobile version of the Note 3 and just SIM unlock it and use it on AT&T but coming up with $700+ dollars is not an option for me. So I can only hope an exploit is found for the AT&T version.
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AboveAverage said:
From everything that I have read over the past couple of days AT&T has a locked bootloader. The TMobile version doesn't have one. The reason why root works for it is because it flashes a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP and then roots it from there. That is not possible with a locked bootloader. I would rather get the TMobile version of the Note 3 and just SIM unlock it and use it on AT&T but coming up with $700+ dollars is not an option for me. So I can only hope an exploit is found for the AT&T version.
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There will always be a workaround. The phones only been out a little while so it's always best to wait and be patient. Yeah it sucks but early stuff can be unstable. No matter how hard it gets lock down it's not going to be "unlockable". It's just a matter of how much work it's going to take to unlock it.
Well its pretty much going 2 be a hell of a challenge. I'm coming from att Galaxy S4 & it has been crazy over there as far as this bootloader locking with att. U do have root but things haven't been easy by no means so I'm sure it'll be no easier with this device, if not more difficult. But hey I'm optimistic, if we can just get root I'll be happy...
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I find the loki recovery to be easy on the S4.. remember Sprint and Verizon also will have lock bootloaders.
I doubt the two largest networks (Vzw, AT&T) will be left in the dirt.
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YoungAceAtlanta said:
I find the loki recovery to be easy on the S4.. remember Sprint and Verizon also will have lock bootloaders.
I doubt the two largest networks (Vzw, AT&T) will be left in the dirt.
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Not with 4.3
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Everyone thought the same about the S4 with the mf3 update then it got rooted with safestrap to load roms. Everyone thought you couldn't reverse it but it is now reversible. There is even a one click app to root it. Just give it some time.
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From everything that I have read over the past couple of days AT&T has a locked bootloader. The TMobile version doesn't have one. The reason why root works for it is because it flashes a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP and then roots it from there. That is not possible with a locked bootloader. I would rather get the TMobile version of the Note 3 and just SIM unlock it and use it on AT&T but coming up with $700+ dollars is not an option for me. So I can only hope an exploit is found for the AT&T version.
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Cf-auto-root does not flash a custom recovery. It just roots.
At&t Note III...& At&t G Pro
If there is not a chance of rooting or putting a custom rom on my note 3 then what's the purpose of even having this thing. It's nice but my note 2 has much more options as far as putting a custom rom on it. What has Samsung done? Are they in competition with HTC as far as locking us out of our own devices that we pay several hundreds of dollars for. I figured 1 of these devs would have already had this figured out and if they can't then we are pretty screwed
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daredevil061305 said:
If there is not a chance of rooting or putting a custom rom on my note 3 then what's the purpose of even having this thing. It's nice but my note 2 has much more options as far as putting a custom rom on it. What has Samsung done? Are they in competition with HTC as far as locking us out of our own devices that we pay several hundreds of dollars for. I figured 1 of these devs would have already had this figured out and if they can't then we are pretty screwed
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Sometimes reading helps. towelroot.com
daredevil061305 said:
If there is not a chance of rooting or putting a custom rom on my note 3 then what's the purpose of even having this thing. It's nice but my note 2 has much more options as far as putting a custom rom on it. What has Samsung done? Are they in competition with HTC as far as locking us out of our own devices that we pay several hundreds of dollars for. I figured 1 of these devs would have already had this figured out and if they can't then we are pretty screwed
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If you did your research you'd find that root is available and that you can install custom roms via safestrap.
Also Samsung isn't the one limiting the note 3 by locking the bootloader. It's at&t. Don't be hatin on Samsung.
root it right now go to www.towelroot.com and than download superuser..... it works flawlessley
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arlenesboyfriend said:
root it right now go to www.towelroot.com and than download superuser..... it works flawlessley
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No need to even download Superuser. I just installed the apk and viola, root!
Hello,
I am just wondering, where is the latest news on the progress of our bootloader being unlocked? Or atleast where can I get any kind of info on how to do it? Cause I'll be dead honest, I turned on my galaxy S3 and missed the CM experience. I just want to get this thing unlocked so I can enjoy our phone, instead of being OK with what ATT gives us, cause its kinda dumb.
thanks for any information at all, cause I'd honestly dedicate my phone to the effort.
-Gulik
If u got s3 them u in wrong forum. Needed to go to att s3 forum.
Samsung unlock bootloader on SM-G870A ...
No no, I have both. I am using my S5, but I miss my S3 because of CM. I just want to help with this somehow.
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Also would love an answer to this question! Im came from a nexus 5 too so this really bothers me. ALL THIS ANDROID L IS MAKIN ME ANXIOUS TO GET A GLORIOUS CM ROM ON MY PHONE
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there will never be unlocked by at&t, this company is closed by capitalist political protection of the operator's own functions.
well I sold the phone, it is unfortunate, it is a good phone, it's amazing the difference g900a g900f with the operating system.
The g900f has everything unlocked functions representing the galaxy s5.
I recommend that you do not fall into the scam at&t.
I hate to be pessimistic, but with the arrival of "android 5" I doubt that at&t update these terminals, is a company that has a reputation of leaving obsolete phones.
I would easily pay 25-50 dollars for an unlock tool (like Sunshine for HTC/Motorola devices) for the G900A. While I do appreciate Safestrap and all its glory, I really, really, want stock android L on our device. Because somewhere...... a Samsung engineer is looking at L thinking "how can we screw this one up..."
All I'm saying is this, I'm not too savy with hacking or low level coding; but I hope that if Samsung does push out Android L and that there is some sort of exploit or bug that will allow us to root/unlock the boot loader since it would be a fairly new os compared to that of ICS/KK.
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Im just hoping devs get the bootloader unlocked before the end of 2014, but sadly i dont know if it will ever be unlocked
Why can't we pull a boot loader encryption key from an update?
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akitten007 said:
I would easily pay 25-50 dollars for an unlock tool (like Sunshine for HTC/Motorola devices) for the G900A. While I do appreciate Safestrap and all its glory, I really, really, want stock android L on our device. Because somewhere...... a Samsung engineer is looking at L thinking "how can we screw this one up..."
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Be careful what you wish for...
"L" has a whole new set of challenges....
Init commands are no more...
So our traditional root and superuser mechanisms are gone...
Google did this on purpose in the name of security..
So not only are the carriers locking us out..but Google is turning into the new apple....
So much for open source and freedom to create....g
Man screw this s5 I'm going to fire back up my s3 . I'm missing cm big time
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goob1284 said:
Why can't we pull a boot loader encryption key from an update?
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What you're describing is basically breaking an encryption, which is out of the realm of possibility. It would be far easier (and has still not happened yet) to literally steal the keys from Samsung. I believe previous bootloaders have been unlocked this way. If a lock is unpickable, then I'll just steal the key from the guy who has it right?
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What you're describing is basically breaking an encryption, which is out of the realm of possibility. It would be far easier (and has still not happened yet) to literally steal the keys from Samsung. I believe previous bootloaders have been unlocked this way. If a lock is unpickable, then I'll just steal the key from the guy who has it right?
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Sounds good to me .
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If the T-Mobile version is unlocked why can't we just make it think it's the same phone, or just switch out the boot loader somehow. Maybe someone understands what I'm saying ?
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ConMcCRay said:
If the T-Mobile version is unlocked why can't we just make it think it's the same phone, or just switch out the boot loader somehow. Maybe someone understands what I'm saying ?
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That's not going to ever happen. The bootloader is locked down to prevent that. You need to unlock our bootloader before you could ever switch them.
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ConMcCRay said:
If the T-Mobile version is unlocked why can't we just make it think it's the same phone, or just switch out the boot loader somehow. Maybe someone understands what I'm saying ?
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That's not going to ever happen. The bootloader is locked down to prevent that. You need to unlock our bootloader before you could ever switch them.
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Technically you are correct however, Odin can flash BootLoaders but alas we are back to if we had the "keys" we wouldnt need to try to flash a TMO BL.
viscous circle we are in
Do you guys think it will ever happen? I mean realistically
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ericjackson said:
Do you guys think it will ever happen? I mean realistically
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Doubtful
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s5freak said:
Doubtful
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Man that sucks... I expected the type of options like I had with my s3.hmmm
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ericjackson said:
Man that sucks... I expected the type of options like I had with my s3.hmmm
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I love my S5 rooted running a killer Rom beautifully themed with great battery life and debloated. I've had a Galaxy S series since the S2. My S3 was a decent phone but this S5 is a beast.
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Just for my edge today. Had M7 for the last two years. One item that is bugging me is in my notification bars there is one that treks me the WiFi I am connected to. Not in the top bar but notification bar. How do I get rid of this? I can not swipe it away. Thanks
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veener79 said:
Just for my edge today. Had M7 for the last two years. One item that is bugging me is in my notification bars there is one that treks me the WiFi I am connected to. Not in the top bar but notification bar. How do I get rid of this? I can not swipe it away. Thanks
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Someone on reddit asked the same question and all I can say is welcome to touchwiz
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LeKtRiCzzz said:
Someone on reddit asked the same question and all I can say is welcome to touchwiz
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Crap had that feeling. Hope ROM development will happen soon.
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Crap had that feeling. Hope ROM development will happen soon.
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And to that I must say, Welcome to Android from AT&T where we lock BL's for no reason and take away features that many would call useful. Don't hold your breath. Even if root is by some miracle achieved don't expect any roms because it more than like just won't happen.
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And to that I must say, Welcome to Android from AT&T where we lock BL's for no reason and take away features that many would call useful. Don't hold your breath. Even if root is by some miracle achieved don't expect any roms because it more than like just won't happen.
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Crap. Add ATT from the start with Android and all my devices I have rooted with custom roms. Guess they have these Samsung ones really locked down?
It's not just Samsung, I think the LG G3 and Moto X may have a locked BL as well. I know HTC M8/9 doesn't.
crea78 said:
It's not just Samsung, I think the LG G3 and Moto X may have a locked BL as well. I know HTC M8/9 doesn't.
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Wrong. HTC phones come locked boot loaders just like the rest. The difference is that HTC provides a tool so you can unlock. IMO all manufacturerers should do this but I don't think any will until HTC starts taking a lot more of their business and that's obviously not going to happen this year with the M9 being such a evolutionary upgrade and all other companies going all out trying to make the best phone ever made.
Just my .02
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Sorry, about saying HTC phones didn't have a locked BL. I forgot since I haven't had one in a while and you are right, they allow you to unlock via a tool you get from their website.
We need root on this phone. hopefully someone will be able to succeed on getting root soon!
lucky_strike33 said:
We need root on this phone. hopefully someone will be able to succeed on getting root soon!
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Hopefully
So what is the hold up. Is it just the Verizon variant that is lacking root? I thought the other variants had root? Not one post in the development sections. Weird.
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So what is the hold up. Is it just the Verizon variant that is lacking root? I thought the other variants had root? Not one post in the development sections. Weird.
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Verizon and AT&T don't have root. All others do
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So what is the hold up. Is it just the Verizon variant that is lacking root? I thought the other variants had root? Not one post in the development sections. Weird.
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Nothing posted in the DEV section yet because we don't have root, and as far as I know there hasn't been a VZW Dev edition released yet (and I'm doubting there will be with the production issues they've had getting the regular GS6E's out).
Trust me, we all (or mostly all?) want root, but we have to be patient - i'd be blown away if we got a root solution before the Note 4.
What I thought of course. But there should at least be a post or two saying: hey, I'm so and so dev. Im working on root. Will post back in a few days when completed. Lol
When you root your device, the integrity gets breached, which is necessary for important and sensitive features like mobile payments. :good:
devguruXochitl said:
When you root your device, the integrity gets breached, which is necessary for important and sensitive features like mobile payments. :good:
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Who cares. Don't even use the features.
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lucky_strike33 said:
Who cares. Don't even use the features.
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At&t and Verizon cares.
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At&t and Verizon cares.
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if you care why read root threads on xda?
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Well if those so called "caring" companies would give us customers a little bit more control of our phones to get rid of some of their crapware, etc., then I would be all for it but they keep the lock on too tight as far as I'm concerned.
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What I thought of course. But there should at least be a post or two saying: hey, I'm so and so dev. Im working on root. Will post back in a few days when completed. Lol
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i lold at this post.. you dont just have a new device come out and a dev say it will take him a few days... the note 4 has been out for many months now and is still not rooted.. if you want to know where devs are at check those threads because they are working on rooting that device currently..
there is i believe only one L exploit that would not help in gettimg root available right now so until more exploits are found we dont stand a chance with root
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I'm not holding my breathe on root for this phone I don't see it happening any time soon
XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
I'm not holding my breathe on root for this phone I don't see it happening any time soon
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You don't read the right threads then.
http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2015/q2/333
I came off a RAZR HD MAXX, and have always had Moto phones (this is my first non-moto phone), but I read in at least 2 places that root cannot be had on this phone because verizon and AT&T have locked bootloaders. Now, Im not sure what the boot loader has to do with getting root, because with my Motos I always rooted before unlocking the BL (on the phones I had that UL the BL was an option), but it just doesnt sound right.
I dont think I want to use custom ROMs any longer, I just want to use root apps. Really hoping someone finds an exploit for it.
longview41 said:
You don't read the right threads then.
http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2015/q2/333
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awesome find. now this is for the note 4 kit kat right?
lucky_strike33 said:
awesome find. now this is for the note 4 kit kat right?
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I believe it is for all kernels up to May 2015.
It has been tested on the S6, and should work for any phone with a vulnerable kernel.
It should result in a root tool similar to towelroot.
jlang11 said:
I came off a RAZR HD MAXX, and have always had Moto phones (this is my first non-moto phone), but I read in at least 2 places that root cannot be had on this phone because verizon and AT&T have locked bootloaders. Now, Im not sure what the boot loader has to do with getting root, because with my Motos I always rooted before unlocking the BL (on the phones I had that UL the BL was an option), but it just doesnt sound right.
I dont think I want to use custom ROMs any longer, I just want to use root apps. Really hoping someone finds an exploit for it.
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You havent been on my roms then .. Its a stripped down bare bone stock rom with slight tweaks/mods.. i did try theming before but with theme engine now its pointless to theme it now..
My rom is the Extreme Syndicate rom in the Verizon S5 thread.. will develop for the verizon gs6 edge when possible and most likely make some buids for att s6 edge as well
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elliwigy said:
You havent been on my roms then .. Its a stripped down bare bone stock rom with slight tweaks/mods.. i did try theming before but with theme engine now its pointless to theme it now..
My rom is the Extreme Syndicate rom in the Verizon S5 thread.. will develop for the verizon gs6 edge when possible and most likely make some buids for att s6 edge as well
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I cant wait to have this
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I cant wait to have this
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in the root thread the dev is saying theyre having some issues with the edge due to qc hardware we that means
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