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If I'm not mistaken, the Bionic has an encrypted bootloader. Will there actually be a development community behind this phone?
According to a developer on the mikmik forums the bionics boot loader is unlocked and the system dump has been rooted.
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Beamer9408 said:
According to a developer on the mikmik forums the bionics boot loader is unlocked and the system dump has been rooted.
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P3Droid (who is the man) has the deodexed dumps already.
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...id-bionic-system-dumps-partial.html#post99195
I'm sort of waiting to see if the Droid Prime is vanilla or not. Maybe by then the Bionic will be cheaper and I can compare the two. I imagine the CM team will develop for this beast.
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According to a developer on the mikmik forums the bionics boot loader is unlocked and the system dump has been rooted.
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The bootloader is not unlocked. It is unlockable if the carriers allow it. And that is the question "if"
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P3Droid (who is the man) has the deodexed dumps already.
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...id-bionic-system-dumps-partial.html#post99195
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Thanks for posting that.
Just so nobody panics my ROM & kernels listing will be up by Saturday. Hopefully by then we'll at least have a few ROMs out.
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According to a developer on the mikmik forums the bionics boot loader is unlocked and the system dump has been rooted.
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Okay I am confused, I just picked up the Bionic today and i'm coming from an iphone so bear with me on my droid stupidity. you said the bionics boot loader is unlocked which is a good thing to load custom roms and then....
trentreed said:
The bootloader is not unlocked. It is unlockable if the carriers allow it. And that is the question "if"
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you say its locked & unlockable if the carrier allows it, but the HTC Thunderbolt's boot loader is unlocked, so shouldn't this one be as well? All I know is that there is a crap ton of software that I do not want and would like to remove in the future.
Again I apologize for my question but having 2 people saying 2 different things to someone new like me just confuses me.
Should I return it and get the tbolt so i can get some cm7 roms, or will this have them in the future and should i wait it out?
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Okay I am confused, I just picked up the Bionic today and i'm coming from an iphone so bear with me on my droid stupidity. you said the bionics boot loader is unlocked which is a good thing to load custom roms and then....
you say its locked & unlockable if the carrier allows it, but the HTC Thunderbolt's boot loader is unlocked, so shouldn't this one be as well? All I know is that there is a crap ton of software that I do not want and would like to remove in the future.
Again I apologize for my question but having 2 people saying 2 different things to someone new like me just confuses me.
Should I return it and get the tbolt so i can get some cm7 roms, or will this have them in the future and should i wait it out?
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Moto's had a nasty habit of locking bootloaders, which prevents custom kernels from running.
HTC did for awhile, but got some sense and knocked it off. Samsung doesn't lock theirs.
Even if Verizon does permit unlocked bootloaders, Moto still has to implement it. And if they don't, well, we're out of luck until they either change their policy or someone figures out how to get around it.
HTC has publicly stated they are only unlocking bootloaders of phones starting with the Sensation and the EVO 3D and forward; this doesn't include the Thunderbolt.
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HTC has publicly stated they are only unlocking bootloaders of phones starting with the Sensation and the EVO 3D and forward; this doesn't include the Thunderbolt.
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yet we can unlock the tbolt easily.
I sure hope so! Can't wait and hope it develops as the Inc forum has
the unlocked bootloader is a deciding factor in me getting this phone, I have hopes that a developer can get it. God knows how long it'll take if they do actually approve the unlock for it to go through, could be 6-8 months.
The Bootloader doesn't need to be unlocked for custom Roms.
I have one waiting in the wings for Bootstrap to be up.
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The Bootloader doesn't need to be unlocked for custom Roms.
I have one waiting in the wings for Bootstrap to be up.
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Yeah I know but you won't be able to flash kernels or radio's. That really is a big help to improve performance and battery consumption.
If I can find one cheap enough I might jump in before then
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Yeah I know but you won't be able to flash kernels or radio's. That really is a big help to improve performance and battery consumption.
If I can find one cheap enough I might jump in before then
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Agree completely.. at least overclocking should be possible. Even with the debloat and the few tweaks I have made now, the phone doesn't hiccup. The damn thing is a powerhouse, when we can start digging inti MEM and RAM settings I can see some great potential. At least until the bootloader gets unlocked.
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People are working on getting 2nd init working on the Bionic. Can't give too many details yet...but it could be coming...
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People are working on getting 2nd init working on the Bionic. Can't give too many details yet...but it could be coming...
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yeah! paypal ready and waiting
Keep me in the loop on that please
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How the hell do I get rid of the bloat in this phone? I just rooted
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How the hell do I get rid of the bloat in this phone? I just rooted
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Just use titanium to freeze or remove.
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How the hell do I get rid of the bloat in this phone? I just rooted
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well you can wait for theorys rom to come out... or if you can't wait use titanium backup.. and freeze the apps.
that will get them out of your system ... and best if yo want to go back just unfreeze them.
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=57374053&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-266
Blame the hardware. How about blame the developers on their end!
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I don't reckon most Droid 3 owners give a **** about ICS on their phones, nor do they have any clue what it even is. That is a shame though, because for Android enthusiasts like us, it is a big deal, especially when we are running ICS on it already and it makes MotoBlur look like the old LG Env interface.
Most people don't root, and Verizon isn't going to promote an OS version over a new handset. I love my D3, but it's utter nonsense that it won't get official ICS just months after Google called the version the great unifier that can and will run on every phone.
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I'm still running the alpha 6 and all seriousness if it weren't for a few things I would swear it was better than alpha. If motorola only knew what a pure ics experience was like on their hardware they could easily bury samsung and the crap nexus they released.
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http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=57374053&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-266
Blame the hardware. How about blame the developers on their end!
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I compared the hardware specs between XT860 and Galaxy Nexus and the only differences I really saw was that we only have 512mb ram. Same GPU almost the same CPU, I think moto is buying time so Goog can save them
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jckeyser said:
Most people don't root, and Verizon isn't going to promote an OS version over a new handset. I love my D3, but it's utter nonsense that it won't get official ICS just months after Google called the version the great unifier that can and will run on every phone.
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Moto still has not confirmed that the D3 is not getting ICS. As the DX and D2 both received GB well after they were no longer being sold, I think it's a good possibility that it will. We'll see, though.
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Moto still has not confirmed that the D3 is not getting ICS. As the DX and D2 both received GB well after they were no longer being sold, I think it's a good possibility that it will. We'll see, though.
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I think hashcode will get us ics long before moto does
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He already has. And Beta is right around the corner.
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How about unlocking the damn boot loaders and let us decide what is on our phone
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Well, that too.
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How about unlocking the damn boot loaders and let us decide what is on our phone
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I doubt that we will ever see bootloaders unlocked on our current phones. I suspect that it could not be done without sending the phones back to Motorola and having them replace the "one time" programmable firmware. Why else would having a Dev Razr be useless for unlocking other Razrs. I think the only way we would ever be able to put anything we wanted on these phones would be if Moto released their encrypted key so that the phone would accept it. FAT chance of that happening, but I bet that hasn't crossed anyone's mind at Moto. Maybe we could suggest that to them.
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The main bootloader unlock change.org page is over 7500 signed. Its got to mean something.
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Here's some good news though
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/0...n-of-motorola-to-clear-as-early-as-next-week/ Hopefully this will get something done and some good progress made.
nice!
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Good. Motorola actually has some nice hardware now but they suck with software it seems.
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The main bootloader unlock change.org page is over 7500 signed. Its got to mean something.
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OK, can someone answer a possibly dumb question for me? I've spent the last year happily rooting my original Droid and running custom roms - finally settling on Cyanogen Mod. Now, I'm no expert but I've found it pretty easy to do by just following the instructions that are available many places online. I now have my Droid 3 and so far am just running it stock - waiting for CM9 to get to a release version.
So, from the discussion I'm assuming that rooting the Device and loading Cyanogen is somehow something less than "unlocking the boot loader". But if it is, does that matter? Whatever that actually means it doesn't seem to be preventing anyone from running custom ROM's - or am I missing something?
Reminds me of h4ck1ng t3h g1b50n
Hack the planet!
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OK, can someone answer a possibly dumb question for me? I've spent the last year happily rooting my original Droid and running custom roms - finally settling on Cyanogen Mod. Now, I'm no expert but I've found it pretty easy to do by just following the instructions that are available many places online. I now have my Droid 3 and so far am just running it stock - waiting for CM9 to get to a release version.
So, from the discussion I'm assuming that rooting the Device and loading Cyanogen is somehow something less than "unlocking the boot loader". But if it is, does that matter? Whatever that actually means it doesn't seem to be preventing anyone from running custom ROM's - or am I missing something?
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With a locked bootloader we ca still run custom roms thanks to tricky devs but no custom kernels
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With a locked bootloader we ca still run custom roms thanks to tricky devs but no custom kernels
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But I used to run custom kernels on my Droid 1 too. I was running CM7.1 with a Chevy#1 (think that's what it was) kernel which was what let me use Set CPU to overclock. Is that not loading a "custom kernel"? Or was the boot loader unlocked on my Droid 2?
I'm not criticizing or saying anyone else is wrong - I'm just trying to understand what the differences are between what I have been doing and having a true "unlocked boot loader". What are the things that would allow me to do that can't be done now?
droid 1 is the only true unlocked bootloader moto phone with the exception of the atrix, which was accomplished with many many hours of work.
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So I happened to be checking ebay to buy an AHD and i saw one that had no att logo or anything but the motorola logo on the front?
What do u guys know about this? Is it factory unlocked? Does it get software upgrades? From who? Android version? BL?
Thanks in advance guys!!
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Link so we can see it?
gabo_e30 said:
So I happened to be checking ebay to buy an AHD and i saw one that had no att logo or anything but the motorola logo on the front?
What do u guys know about this? Is it factory unlocked? Does it get software upgrades? From who? Android version? BL?
Thanks in advance guys!!
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Maybe not factory unlocked, but a seller unlocked of the Bell (Canada) variant?
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Maybe not factory unlocked, but a seller unlocked of the Bell (Canada) variant?
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I know there is someone on this forum with the Bell variant, which obviously doesn't have the death star, most likely that is what this is.
Yeah, almost sure the phones without the branding from ebay are seller-unlocked bell-phones.
Is there any difference in software? What about updates?
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Bell!
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Is there any difference in software? What about updates?
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it gets less updates... not worth the risk, i saw a guy on moto forum complaining they didnt get the 9/13 update
On a Bell HD right now.
Version : 77:55:18.
Pros :
-No branding
-Very quick to unlock. (less than 5 mins for $19)
-Can turn off LTE
-Usually can be rooted same time as AT&T
-Sometimes can be used on medianet unlimited plan
Cons :
-Slower to get updates (most times, but not always) This is a big one, but not an issue once the bootloader is unlocked.
That's all i can think of right now.
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There is a way to turn off LTE on at&t phones, but it needs root.
So that was is only a temporary advantage...
Also I haven't seen any in white?
I have an unlocked Bell Atrix HD with no carrier branding. That is what the seller is selling. Im getting 4g/H+ on T-Mobile
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Hounding AT&T Everyday & Night for the Unlock Code
Starting to get old I have flashed many o phones but this one's getting on my nerves now. :laugh:
Item: Motorola Atrix HD Unlocked Android Smart Phone (GSM, AT&T, T-Mobile, Bell)
URL: http://pages.ebay.com/link/? nav=item.view&id=280986746473
Alt URL: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-At...rt-Phone-GSM-AT-T-T-Mobile-Bell-/280986746473
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Item: Motorola Atrix HD Unlocked Android Smart Phone (GSM, AT&T, T-Mobile, Bell)
URL: http://pages.ebay.com/link/? nav=item.view&id=280986746473
Alt URL: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-At...rt-Phone-GSM-AT-T-T-Mobile-Bell-/280986746473
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Please note that it is XDA policy to sell things only under the sale area and not in a phone's forum.
Its not that im selling. Soneone asked for the link cuz they wanted to see it. Not trying to do business here just showing.
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did anyone tried to purchased this phone? hows the performance of it?
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Just like any other AHD
Quadrant scores around 4700-4900
Antutu scores around 6400-6500
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Please Help, Gabe!
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Just like any other AHD
Quadrant scores around 4700-4900
Antutu scores around 6400-6500
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Hi Gabe!
I too got my Atrix HD from "UniqueFlips". My (Bell) Atrix HD is now ROOTED and has an UNLOCKED bootloader. How did you Flash ATT software on your Bell Atrix HD? Where can I download the ATT software?
Thank you!
souljaboy said:
There is a way to turn off LTE on at&t phones, but it needs root.
So that was is only a temporary advantage...
Also I haven't seen any in white?
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What is the method to turn off LTE?
Currently JB 4.1.1 with Root
Just bought a bell attic hd with an unlocked bootloader. I know what unlocked bootloaders allow us to do, so my question is when will we see dev support for the unlocked variants?
How is it a unlocked bootloader
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The bell ones come unlocked.
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Yup!
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Just bought a bell attic hd with an unlocked bootloader. I know what unlocked bootloaders allow us to do, so my question is when will we see dev support for the unlocked variants?
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i have no idea either but i guess it's because the phone isn't very popular
I think its weird the phone isnt more popular. Its a great phone
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I'll make a ROM for my own use and once we have recovery I may release it
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I think its weird the phone isnt more popular. Its a great phone
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Everybody has the one x, s3, or iPhone... I personally want my phone to be a great phone first of all. Good battery life, great radios, built well, decent storage. Since i couldn't afford the RAZR HD maxx, here i am. I'm pretty happy. Could always be better but for what I paid or didn't rather, im excited.
I traded my iphone 4s for this phone, this phone is much faster and the only thing the 4s beat this in is camera. Other than that, this is way better. I habe the maxx battery in my atrix
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Ordered the maxx battery. But need some unlocked bootloader love.
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Ordered the maxx battery. But need some unlocked bootloader love.
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+1
10charrrr
SirHoover2010 said:
I traded my iphone 4s for this phone, this phone is much faster and the only thing the 4s beat this in is camera. Other than that, this is way better. I habe the maxx battery in my atrix
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Try the nexus camera. I've noticed much better picture quality but it could also be jellybean, itself.
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Neroga said:
Try the nexus camera. I've noticed much better picture quality but it could also be jellybean, itself.
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I believe the quality on mine looks the same as the stock ICS camera app so it might be JB
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The bell ones come unlocked.
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not true. my bell AHD doesn't have an unlocked bootloader.
i think the only ones claiming to have an unlocked bootloader are the ones who bought sim-unlocked Bell AHDs online.
And those ones probably don't come from the proper Bell retail channels since they all should come locked.
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Try the nexus camera. I've noticed much better picture quality but it could also be jellybean, itself.
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I did, no difference. If you have good lighting this camera is fine
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not true. my bell AHD doesn't have an unlocked bootloader.
i think the only ones claiming to have an unlocked bootloader are the ones who bought sim-unlocked Bell AHDs online.
And those ones probably don't come from the proper Bell retail channels since they all should come locked.
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But u can fxz the oficial bell software... the one matt posted. Mine works great.
Oh and since it has an unlocked bl u can also flash the at&t software on it ( not directly but easy enough)
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gabo_e30 said:
But u can fxz the oficial bell software... the one matt posted. Mine works great.
Oh and since it has an unlocked bl u can also flash the at&t software on it ( not directly but easy enough)
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Has anyone looked into getting bell firmware on at&t to get bootloader unlocked then go back to at&t
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Has anyone looked into getting bell firmware on at&t to get bootloader unlocked then go back to at&t
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Sounds like a brick waiting to happen ...
It is...looked into it. Theoretically it is possible
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Guys, my wife is tired of her att Atrix 4G, att really has a sucky lineup for Android phones right now.
Someone suggested a Razr I. Since its not supported by a US carrier how does it get its updates?
Is it a decent phone, unlocked of course, or Have you moved on to something else? Help me find a new phone for the wife
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I'm on AT&T, and my razr I runs beautifully! Battery is by far one of the outstanding features of the device, I can easily use it for two days straight. I would only get the phone though if you're willing to root. Stock is experience is great don't get me wrong, but the roms offered on this forum are just so much better. As for updates, I haven't bothered to check in months. I'm not expecting the phone to get upgraded any further than 4.1.2, so the only updates I check now are on development section of the forum. In my opinion the only things we would really miss out on are lock screen widgets and trim support, but besides that I haven't felt that the phone needs updating.
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I can't touch my wife's phone, lol. That said I'll probably unlock the bootloader and flash the stock boot logo back so she won't freak out, but keep it stock and rooted (for TiBu).
4.1.2 is cool. Her Atrix is still on GB. So picking up one of these babies from eBay won't be a bad thing to do huh? Very cool!
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I can't touch my wife's phone, lol. That said I'll probably unlock the bootloader and flash the stock boot logo back so she won't freak out, but keep it stock and rooted (for TiBu).
4.1.2 is cool. Her Atrix is still on GB. So picking up one of these babies from eBay won't be a bad thing to do huh? Very cool!
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It's not possible to flash stock boot logo...
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Really? Oh well. I can on my HD.
Can the i take advantage of att's 4G network speeds if it is not blessed by big blue?
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Sadly you'll be limited to 3G. But AT&T's network is fast enough that I don't really mind
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Sadly you'll be limited to 3G. But AT&T's network is fast enough that I don't really mind
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I'll be honest, that's a downer. Not sure if my wife can overcome that.
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You could get the one mini of she likes 4.3 form factor, it comes with lte. Only downside I see is the subpar battery life and sense, that one's personal preference though
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The HTC One mini? Haven't looked unto it. Will check them out thanks!
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